3 men charged with federal hate crimes in killing of Ahmaud Arbery in Georgia

[Persuader]

So what's the answer? If you don't want cops around, you'd better make sure you're well-armed and well trained. Militias would be needed in the absence of cops, since violent crime has been rising, as has property crime (thanks to the "peaceful protesters").

Liberals do not believe white people have a right to protect themselves from blacks as in they consider blacks to always be the victims no matter that young black males committ over half of all murders and rapes in this country.

Georgia has done away with their Citizens Arrest Law because of the ahbery incident.

Georgia is the only state in America now that does not have a citizens arrest law.

 

[Persuader]

Since when is the penalty for an alleged burglary summary execution?

He got shot because he assaulted Travis McMichaels whilst trying to take away his weapon.

It is all on video....no question about it....very clear....undisputable.....try and deal with the truth and reality for a change.

 

[Persuader]

The penalty for an alleged burglary isn't execution, but it ought to be after several convictions of it.

Again, I'm not suggesting this justifies the actions of the McMichaels, however.

You do not know the facts of the case....probably have not even watched the video.

 

[Persuader]

Ok. Define serial burglar. Because there was one reported burglary in the neighborhood before the shooting. One. And I think it is possible that the idiot Travis actually just lost the gun.

What you missed or do not understand that was for a certain period of time which has been used to mislead people like you....when you look up the crime stats for that county....it is one of the highest in the nation.

 

[IM2]

Liberals do not believe white people have a right to protect themselves from blacks as in they consider blacks to always be the victims no matter that young black males committ over half of all murders and rapes in this country.

Georgia has done away with their Citizens Arrest Law because of the ahbery incident.

Georgia is the only state in America now that does not have a citizens arrest law.

Bullshit. Those men were not defending themselves and when you look at the record we blacks have a lot more to fear from whites than vice versa.

 

[Persuader]

If that's the case, then there are likely a lot of cases of black people shooting white people that haven't been pursued as a hate crime.

Blacks are rarely charged with a hate crime even though as a group they committ more hate crimes than any other race....blacks are cosumed with hatred ....even of their own kind....which we see all the time in Chicago....but since it is black on black no one cares....just view it as a problem taking care of itself.

 

[IM2]

He got shot because he assaulted Travis McMichaels whilst trying to take away his weapon.

It is all on video....no question about it....very clear....undisputable.....try and deal with the truth and reality for a change.

The video shows no such thing.

 

[Lesh]

Liberals do not believe white people have a right to protect themselves from blacks as in they consider blacks to always be the victims no matter that young black males committ over half of all murders and rapes in this country.

Georgia has done away with their Citizens Arrest Law because of the ahbery incident.

Georgia is the only state in America now that does not have a citizens arrest law.

Violent crime is segregated.

Blacks commit violent crimes mostly on other blacks and white on other whites.

White people have far more to fear from those of their own race than of black people

 

[Persuader]

Well at least we can agree on this.

Certainly justified by the Law of Self-Defense.....ahbery had no right to self defense because he was not in fear of his life.

 

[IM2]

Blacks are rarely charged with a hate crime even though as a group they committ more hate crimes than any other race....blacks are cosumed with hatred ....even of their own kind....which we see all the time in Chicago....but since it is black on black no one cares....just view it as a problem taking care of itself.

That's another lies. Annually we are the victims of most hate crime with the perpetrators usually being white. The UCR shows this annually.

 

[IM2]

Certainly justified by the Law of Self-Defense.....ahbery had no right to self defense because he was not in fear of his life.

Apparently he was in fear for his life. A man pulled a gun on him.

Then he killed him.

 

[Persuader]

There was no summary execution. Aubrey went for the guy's gun and got shot. Besides, who are you to be judge, jury and sentencer?

Yes...the video clearly shows it....has anyone on this thread actually seen the video.....there have been several threads on this subject already....still yet it appears many still do not know the facts of the case not even to mention we see posters coming on making comments without reading what has already been posted.

 

[IM2]

You do not know the facts of the case....probably have not even watched the video.

Apparently you don't know the facts of the case either white supremacist.

 

[Persuader]

You did not piece it together correctly.....you are one of those who come on here not knowing the facts and too lazy or tooooo fuken stooopid to bother to read what has been posted.

Irregardless.....i will lay it out for you correctly......Gregory McMichaels had previously seen the video of Ahmaud in the house under construction ....not on the day of the chase....

On the day of the chase and the killing of Ahmaud....Gregory McMichaels the father was out in front of his house working on his boat....he gets a call about an intruder being in the house under construction and that when the police were called the suspect took off running as the guilty are prone to do....then after the call-- almost immediately after.....he sees Ahmaud hauling ass down the street....Gregory recognized him from having seen him before on the Security Cam video.

Gregory hollers to his son Travis ........"Lets go....that's him" They then grab their guns for self defense and take off....they catch up to Ahmuad and pull alongside him as he jogs along....Gregory says to him ....'stop--we need to talk to you'......Ahmaud does not stop.
They do not get out of the truck and do not display their weapons

Then the McDaniels drive to a spot far ahead of Ahmaud on the route Ahmaud was jogging on.....they park the truck in the middle of the road and Gregory gets in the bed of the truck(because a child seat in the truck was in his way) he gets on the phone with 911 to advise them of the situation.

Travis his son gets out of the Truck with his shotgun and stands to left side of and to the front of the Trucks left front fender.

Essentially at this time they are waiting for the police to arrive .

Whilst Gregory is still on the phone to 911 Ahmaud finallly catches up with them.....he jogs to the right of the truck and then quickly darts across the front of the truck and attacks Travis....sustaining 3 gunshot wounds in the process of assaulting Travis....

Ahmaud slugged Travis several times and tried to get the Shotgun away from Travis.

Gregory is still in the back of the truck when he sees Ahmaud attack Travis....he dro;ps the phone and pulls out his pistol to help Travis...but Travis needs no help.

Ahmaud collapses and dies.

Good summary of the facts of the case.

 

[IM2]

Yes...the video clearly shows it....has anyone on this thread actually seen the video.....there have been several threads on this subject already....still yet it appears many still do not know the facts of the case not even to mention we see posters coming on making comments without reading what has already been posted.

No, the video shows a man followed down a street who got cut off and surrounded. Then one of the people who cut him off pulled a gun on him. He tried taking the gun so he would not get shot. But the white supremacist will always look for reasons why whites are justified in committing crimes against non whites.

 

[IM2]

Orangecat, you apparently flunked history.

 

[SavannahMann]

What you missed or do not understand that was for a certain period of time which has been used to mislead people like you....when you look up the crime stats for that county....it is one of the highest in the nation.

There were a total of three burglaries in that neighborhood in the six month period before the shooting. Three.

Three reports of stolen property. In six months. One. Just one. In the two months previous to the shooting.

Now. Have the horrific crime stats for the county dropped dramatically? Nope.

But it is not germane. In Georgia. The Citizens Arrest law was restricted. You had to see the crime. And you had to be either the victim or a representative. They did not see any crime except a guy jogging. They were not authorized by English to represent him. By law they could do nothing more than call the cops.

Shouting get your guns let’s get him is a crime.

 

[Meathead]

No, the video shows a man followed down a street who got cut off and surrounded. Then one of the people who cut him off pulled a gun on him. He tried taking the gun so he would not get shot. But the white supremacist will always look for reasons why whites are justified in committing crimes against non whites.

You thugs have much more to fear from your fellow thugs than whites. You're safer with the likes of Big Mike, Trayvon, Saint George and this thug Arbery dead, as are we all.

 

[Persuader]

There were a total of three burglaries in that neighborhood in the six month period before the shooting. Three.

Three reports of stolen property. In six months. One. Just one. In the two months previous to the shooting.

Now. Have the horrific crime stats for the county dropped dramatically? Nope.

But it is not germane. In Georgia. The Citizens Arrest law was restricted. You had to see the crime. And you had to be either the victim or a representative. They did not see any crime except a guy jogging. They were not authorized by English to represent him. By law they could do nothing more than call the cops.

Shouting get your guns let’s get him is a crime.

I have noted time and again you have little or no ability to properly understand the law and once again you demonstrate that.

Georgia did away with the citizens arrest law after the incident with ahmaud because they do not want black criminals to be arrested or interfered with by any citizen.

The McMicahels will be entitled to use the original law regarding Citizens arrest because this incident happened before the law was changed....can you not grasp that?

I also remember your flawed analysis of the Zimmerman case....but here you are again demonstrating you lack the expertise to deal with legal matters.

 

[SavannahMann]

I have noted time and again you have little or no ability to properly understand the law and once again you demonstrate that.

Georgia did away with the citizens arrest law after the incident with ahmaud because they do not want black criminals to be arrested or interfered with by any citizen.

The McMicahels will be entitled to use the original law regarding Citizens arrest because this incident happened before the law was changed....can you not grasp that?

I also remember your flawed analysis of the Zimmerman case....but here you are again demonstrating you lack the expertise to deal with legal matters.

I’m talking about the original law as defined in the Winn Dixie decision from the Georgia Court of Appeals. They changed the law to discourage vigilante violence.