254 US Marines killed

[Lonestar_logic]

in the Beirut barracks bombing. No one demanded Reagan resign, be impeached, or investigated. No hearings to smear Reagan or any other administration official occured. Only hearings were bipartisan and designed to improve security.

Fast foward to now and 4 die and everyone's smearing Clinton and the President over it.

Can you say politically-motivated hypocrisy?

Did those 254 marines ask for help and turned down several hundred times?
Did Reagan lie to the American people that a non-existing video prompted the attack?

Are you out of your mind comparing the two events?
An comparing Hillary to President Reagan?

Not me so much as The New Yorker, Daily Beast, BBC, Daily KOS, TIME, and about 30,000 other sources.

IOW, all left wing media. Who are attempting to downplay the fact that Hillary is a liar.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Reagan was commander in chief and didn't let the guards have bullets?

lol

Again, what was our vital interest?

I said nothing about REagan not "letting the guards have bullets".

I note that, by your lying, that you know that the truth of the matter is not on your side.

IF the truth is bad for your position, is it not time to reconsider your position?

"Reagan was not the man that left the military degrade to a point where soldiers on guard in a war zone were not allowed to have bullets."

You didn't say that?

Dude.

There is not way that you are so dumb that you read "did not let the military degrade to a point where soldiers on guard in a war zone were not allowed to have bullets"

as "reagan did not let the guards have bullets".


If you are going to lie, at least make you lies NOT an insult to the intelligence of a monkey. And not one of the smarter monkeys.

Lie? I'm quoting you verbatim. Did the guards at the Beirut barracks have bullets or not?

Why did you bring it up?

Stop playing stupid.

Nothing in my comment in any way can be read by anyone sane as "Reagan did not let those soldiers have bullets".

Stop being a lying asshole.

Why did you bring it up?

What soldiers? What war zone?

 

[NYcarbineer]

in the Beirut barracks bombing. No one demanded Reagan resign, be impeached, or investigated. No hearings to smear Reagan or any other administration official occured. Only hearings were bipartisan and designed to improve security.

Fast foward to now and 4 die and everyone's smearing Clinton and the President over it.

Can you say politically-motivated hypocrisy?

Did those 254 marines ask for help and turned down several hundred times?
Did Reagan lie to the American people that a non-existing video prompted the attack?

Are you out of your mind comparing the two events?
An comparing Hillary to President Reagan?

Not me so much as The New Yorker, Daily Beast, BBC, Daily KOS, TIME, and about 30,000 other sources.

IOW, all left wing media. Who are attempting to downplay the fact that Hillary is a liar.

Which Republican investigation declared Hillary Clinton to be a liar?

 

[Lonestar_logic]

in the Beirut barracks bombing. No one demanded Reagan resign, be impeached, or investigated. No hearings to smear Reagan or any other administration official occured. Only hearings were bipartisan and designed to improve security.

Fast foward to now and 4 die and everyone's smearing Clinton and the President over it.

Can you say politically-motivated hypocrisy?

Did those 254 marines ask for help and turned down several hundred times?
Did Reagan lie to the American people that a non-existing video prompted the attack?

Are you out of your mind comparing the two events?
An comparing Hillary to President Reagan?

Not me so much as The New Yorker, Daily Beast, BBC, Daily KOS, TIME, and about 30,000 other sources.

IOW, all left wing media. Who are attempting to downplay the fact that Hillary is a liar.

Which Republican investigation declared Hillary Clinton to be a liar?

You actually don't need an investigation to know she is a liar.


1. Chelsea Clinton was jogging around the World Trade Center on 9/11. Immensely insensitive to those who actually were affected by this horrific attack, Hillary later admitted that Chelsea was actually safely in her Union Square apartment at the time of the attack.

2. She landed under sniper fire in Bosnia. In true Brian Williams-esque form, to listen to Hillary’s account, she was ducking and running in a dramatic M*A*S*H type arrival scene in fear for her life. In actuality, she and Chelsea can be seen on video walking across the Bosnian tarmac… smiling and greeting well wishers. But hey, anybody could misremember deadly sniper fire, right?

3. She was named after Sir Edmund Hillary, one of the first two men to climb Mt. Everest. This one’s just embarrassing. Sir Hillary didn’t actually climb Mt. Everest (AKA, achieve any fame worth naming a child after) until Hillary Clinton was 6 years old. Ouch. So either Hillary’s mom was lying about her namesake Hillary’s entire life, or she waited until Hillary was 6 to name her, or Hillary just, you know, misspoke. Again.

4. Her family was dead broke when they left the White House. They only made $12 MILLION the year after Bill Clinton’s Presidency. I guess when you’re used to living off the taxpayer’s billions funding your vacations, private airfare and security, food, housing, and all, a measly few millions could be a rough adjustment, huh?

5. She claims to have been instrumental in the Northern Ireland peace process. Except those who actually were at the negotiating table say Hillary was nowhere to be seen…

6. She’s just like you. No, really. Because every woman in America has one child who’s always attended private schools, was married to a President, had a personal chef, flies in a environment polluting personal jet, and makes about $200K for every speaking engagement. Duh.

7. Benghazi – it was a disgusting video! The worst of the worst. We know for a fact, based on State Department documents, that not only was Benghazi a terrorist attack, but Hillary knew it was a terrorist attack which had absolutely nothing to do with a YouTube video. Not only did she lie about Benghazi, she failed to act in response to the attack, and 4 American lives were lost in the conflict.

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[Correll]

I said nothing about REagan not "letting the guards have bullets".

I note that, by your lying, that you know that the truth of the matter is not on your side.

IF the truth is bad for your position, is it not time to reconsider your position?

"Reagan was not the man that left the military degrade to a point where soldiers on guard in a war zone were not allowed to have bullets."

You didn't say that?

Dude.

There is not way that you are so dumb that you read "did not let the military degrade to a point where soldiers on guard in a war zone were not allowed to have bullets"

as "reagan did not let the guards have bullets".


If you are going to lie, at least make you lies NOT an insult to the intelligence of a monkey. And not one of the smarter monkeys.

Lie? I'm quoting you verbatim. Did the guards at the Beirut barracks have bullets or not?

Why did you bring it up?

Stop playing stupid.

Nothing in my comment in any way can be read by anyone sane as "Reagan did not let those soldiers have bullets".

Stop being a lying asshole.

Why did you bring it up?

What soldiers? What war zone?

i didn't. The OP did.

 

[deltex1]

Did Reagan lie about the reason for the attack?

He didn't remember if he lied or not.

I remember, you clown faced ahole.

 

[NYcarbineer]

"Reagan was not the man that left the military degrade to a point where soldiers on guard in a war zone were not allowed to have bullets."

You didn't say that?

Dude.

There is not way that you are so dumb that you read "did not let the military degrade to a point where soldiers on guard in a war zone were not allowed to have bullets"

as "reagan did not let the guards have bullets".


If you are going to lie, at least make you lies NOT an insult to the intelligence of a monkey. And not one of the smarter monkeys.

Lie? I'm quoting you verbatim. Did the guards at the Beirut barracks have bullets or not?

Why did you bring it up?

Stop playing stupid.

Nothing in my comment in any way can be read by anyone sane as "Reagan did not let those soldiers have bullets".

Stop being a lying asshole.

Why did you bring it up?

What soldiers? What war zone?

i didn't. The OP did.

So you didn't make Post #22?

It has your name on it.

 

[Camp]

Reagan's failure to respond in a robust and meaningful show of force and punishment and to seek out the specific terrorist responsible for the murderers of the Marines and the attack on the Embassy in Beirut led to an era of fearless terrorist making continued and consistent attacks on Americans and American interest. Reagan worshipers hate to admit this and go into fits of denial when it is brought up, but it is a fact that is undeniable. Before the Beirut Embassy and Barrack's bombing that followed the Embassy attack, middle eastern terror groups focused on Israel and refrained from attaching Americans or American interest. After the attacks they added Americans and American interest to their target list as acceptable tactical and strategic targets.

amazon.com/PeaceKeepers-War-Beirut-Marine-Commander-/dp/1597974250

Anyone who attempts to debate the fact about Reagan's response to the Beirut Barracks bombing giving birth to modern day terrorism need only show the terrorist attacks before Reagan came into office and the ones that occurred after the Embassy and Barracks Bombing.

 

[Correll]

Dude.

There is not way that you are so dumb that you read "did not let the military degrade to a point where soldiers on guard in a war zone were not allowed to have bullets"

as "reagan did not let the guards have bullets".


If you are going to lie, at least make you lies NOT an insult to the intelligence of a monkey. And not one of the smarter monkeys.

Lie? I'm quoting you verbatim. Did the guards at the Beirut barracks have bullets or not?

Why did you bring it up?

Stop playing stupid.

Nothing in my comment in any way can be read by anyone sane as "Reagan did not let those soldiers have bullets".

Stop being a lying asshole.

Why did you bring it up?

What soldiers? What war zone?

i didn't. The OP did.

So you didn't make Post #22?

It has your name on it.

Nothing in post #22 can be read as "Reagan did not let soldiers have bullets".

Stop being a lying asshole.

 

[Correll]

Reagan's failure to respond in a robust and meaningful show of force and punishment and to seek out the specific terrorist responsible for the murderers of the Marines and the attack on the Embassy in Beirut led to an era of fearless terrorist making continued and consistent attacks on Americans and American interest. Reagan worshipers hate to admit this and go into fits of denial when it is brought up, but it is a fact that is undeniable. Before the Beirut Embassy and Barrack's bombing that followed the Embassy attack, middle eastern terror groups focused on Israel and refrained from attaching Americans or American interest. After the attacks they added Americans and American interest to their target list as acceptable tactical and strategic targets.

amazon.com/PeaceKeepers-War-Beirut-Marine-Commander-/dp/1597974250

Anyone who attempts to debate the fact about Reagan's response to the Beirut Barracks bombing giving birth to modern day terrorism need only show the terrorist attacks before Reagan came into office and the ones that occurred after the Embassy and Barracks Bombing.

And if Reagan has done anything more "robust", you would be claiming that modern anti-american terrorism was blow back from that.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Lie? I'm quoting you verbatim. Did the guards at the Beirut barracks have bullets or not?

Why did you bring it up?

Stop playing stupid.

Nothing in my comment in any way can be read by anyone sane as "Reagan did not let those soldiers have bullets".

Stop being a lying asshole.

Why did you bring it up?

What soldiers? What war zone?

i didn't. The OP did.

So you didn't make Post #22?

It has your name on it.

Nothing in post #22 can be read as "Reagan did not let soldiers have bullets".

Stop being a lying asshole.

Why did you bring it up?

Reagan was Commander in Chief. If the guards at the Beirut barracks didn't have bullets that is on Reagan.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Reagan's failure to respond in a robust and meaningful show of force and punishment and to seek out the specific terrorist responsible for the murderers of the Marines and the attack on the Embassy in Beirut led to an era of fearless terrorist making continued and consistent attacks on Americans and American interest. Reagan worshipers hate to admit this and go into fits of denial when it is brought up, but it is a fact that is undeniable. Before the Beirut Embassy and Barrack's bombing that followed the Embassy attack, middle eastern terror groups focused on Israel and refrained from attaching Americans or American interest. After the attacks they added Americans and American interest to their target list as acceptable tactical and strategic targets.

amazon.com/PeaceKeepers-War-Beirut-Marine-Commander-/dp/1597974250

Anyone who attempts to debate the fact about Reagan's response to the Beirut Barracks bombing giving birth to modern day terrorism need only show the terrorist attacks before Reagan came into office and the ones that occurred after the Embassy and Barracks Bombing.

And if Reagan has done anything more "robust", you would be claiming that modern anti-american terrorism was blow back from that.

Reagan wrote a whole new set of rules after Beirut. Rules that both of the Bush presidents ignored, which is why we're still mired in the ME.

 

[deltex1]

Reagan's failure to respond in a robust and meaningful show of force and punishment and to seek out the specific terrorist responsible for the murderers of the Marines and the attack on the Embassy in Beirut led to an era of fearless terrorist making continued and consistent attacks on Americans and American interest. Reagan worshipers hate to admit this and go into fits of denial when it is brought up, but it is a fact that is undeniable. Before the Beirut Embassy and Barrack's bombing that followed the Embassy attack, middle eastern terror groups focused on Israel and refrained from attaching Americans or American interest. After the attacks they added Americans and American interest to their target list as acceptable tactical and strategic targets.

amazon.com/PeaceKeepers-War-Beirut-Marine-Commander-/dp/1597974250

Anyone who attempts to debate the fact about Reagan's response to the Beirut Barracks bombing giving birth to modern day terrorism need only show the terrorist attacks before Reagan came into office and the ones that occurred after the Embassy and Barracks Bombing.

I thought Clinton turned that around...and failing that...it was Bush's fault.

 

[Correll]

Stop playing stupid.

Nothing in my comment in any way can be read by anyone sane as "Reagan did not let those soldiers have bullets".

Stop being a lying asshole.

Why did you bring it up?

What soldiers? What war zone?

i didn't. The OP did.

So you didn't make Post #22?

It has your name on it.

Nothing in post #22 can be read as "Reagan did not let soldiers have bullets".

Stop being a lying asshole.

Why did you bring it up?

Reagan was Commander in Chief. If the guards at the Beirut barracks didn't have bullets that is on Reagan.

Are you asking why did I bring up the lack of bullets?

The answer to that was very, very clear in post 22.

Reagan was NOT the man that left the military to degrade to the point where soldiers on guard duty were not trusted to have bullets.

You could try to put every decision and action of the US military on the desk of the CiC.

Can we do that with Democratic Presidents too?

Reagan did take full responsibility for the incident in a televised speech to the American people.

Even though I find it hard to believe that Presidents should be in charge of such details.

 

[Correll]

Reagan's failure to respond in a robust and meaningful show of force and punishment and to seek out the specific terrorist responsible for the murderers of the Marines and the attack on the Embassy in Beirut led to an era of fearless terrorist making continued and consistent attacks on Americans and American interest. Reagan worshipers hate to admit this and go into fits of denial when it is brought up, but it is a fact that is undeniable. Before the Beirut Embassy and Barrack's bombing that followed the Embassy attack, middle eastern terror groups focused on Israel and refrained from attaching Americans or American interest. After the attacks they added Americans and American interest to their target list as acceptable tactical and strategic targets.

amazon.com/PeaceKeepers-War-Beirut-Marine-Commander-/dp/1597974250

Anyone who attempts to debate the fact about Reagan's response to the Beirut Barracks bombing giving birth to modern day terrorism need only show the terrorist attacks before Reagan came into office and the ones that occurred after the Embassy and Barracks Bombing.

And if Reagan has done anything more "robust", you would be claiming that modern anti-american terrorism was blow back from that.

Reagan wrote a whole new set of rules after Beirut. Rules that both of the Bush presidents ignored, which is why we're still mired in the ME.

What did GHWBush do wrong? Do you think he should have left Saddam have Kuwait?

 

[Camp]

Reagan's failure to respond in a robust and meaningful show of force and punishment and to seek out the specific terrorist responsible for the murderers of the Marines and the attack on the Embassy in Beirut led to an era of fearless terrorist making continued and consistent attacks on Americans and American interest. Reagan worshipers hate to admit this and go into fits of denial when it is brought up, but it is a fact that is undeniable. Before the Beirut Embassy and Barrack's bombing that followed the Embassy attack, middle eastern terror groups focused on Israel and refrained from attaching Americans or American interest. After the attacks they added Americans and American interest to their target list as acceptable tactical and strategic targets.

amazon.com/PeaceKeepers-War-Beirut-Marine-Commander-/dp/1597974250

Anyone who attempts to debate the fact about Reagan's response to the Beirut Barracks bombing giving birth to modern day terrorism need only show the terrorist attacks before Reagan came into office and the ones that occurred after the Embassy and Barracks Bombing.

And if Reagan has done anything more "robust", you would be claiming that modern anti-american terrorism was blow back from that.

You are speculating in a way that supports your support for Reagan. The attack on the Marines was carried out by Hezbollah with support from Iran. Hezbollah is a terror group sponsored by Iran. Instead of hunting them down and punishing them the created Iran-Contra. Killing Americans became very profitable under Reagan.

 

[Correll]

Reagan's failure to respond in a robust and meaningful show of force and punishment and to seek out the specific terrorist responsible for the murderers of the Marines and the attack on the Embassy in Beirut led to an era of fearless terrorist making continued and consistent attacks on Americans and American interest. Reagan worshipers hate to admit this and go into fits of denial when it is brought up, but it is a fact that is undeniable. Before the Beirut Embassy and Barrack's bombing that followed the Embassy attack, middle eastern terror groups focused on Israel and refrained from attaching Americans or American interest. After the attacks they added Americans and American interest to their target list as acceptable tactical and strategic targets.

amazon.com/PeaceKeepers-War-Beirut-Marine-Commander-/dp/1597974250

Anyone who attempts to debate the fact about Reagan's response to the Beirut Barracks bombing giving birth to modern day terrorism need only show the terrorist attacks before Reagan came into office and the ones that occurred after the Embassy and Barracks Bombing.

And if Reagan has done anything more "robust", you would be claiming that modern anti-american terrorism was blow back from that.

You are speculating in a way that supports your support for Reagan. The attack on the Marines was carried out by Hezbollah with support from Iran. Hezbollah is a terror group sponsored by Iran. Instead of hunting them down and punishing them the created Iran-Contra. Killing Americans became very profitable under Reagan.

No, there was not speculation in my post.

Your behavior leaves no doubt as to the fact that no matter what, you would put the blame on the Republican.

It contains about as much "speculation" as if you let go of an object over a drop, that it will fall.

MMm, yes, good analogy. The odds of gravity suddenly failing is about the same as you NOT blaming a Republican.

 

[Camp]

Reagan's failure to respond in a robust and meaningful show of force and punishment and to seek out the specific terrorist responsible for the murderers of the Marines and the attack on the Embassy in Beirut led to an era of fearless terrorist making continued and consistent attacks on Americans and American interest. Reagan worshipers hate to admit this and go into fits of denial when it is brought up, but it is a fact that is undeniable. Before the Beirut Embassy and Barrack's bombing that followed the Embassy attack, middle eastern terror groups focused on Israel and refrained from attaching Americans or American interest. After the attacks they added Americans and American interest to their target list as acceptable tactical and strategic targets.

amazon.com/PeaceKeepers-War-Beirut-Marine-Commander-/dp/1597974250

Anyone who attempts to debate the fact about Reagan's response to the Beirut Barracks bombing giving birth to modern day terrorism need only show the terrorist attacks before Reagan came into office and the ones that occurred after the Embassy and Barracks Bombing.

I thought Clinton turned that around...and failing that...it was Bush's fault.

Bush 41 implemented the actions that began a turn around. Clinton followed the policies implement by the former CIA Director who became the 41st President.

 

[Camp]

Reagan's failure to respond in a robust and meaningful show of force and punishment and to seek out the specific terrorist responsible for the murderers of the Marines and the attack on the Embassy in Beirut led to an era of fearless terrorist making continued and consistent attacks on Americans and American interest. Reagan worshipers hate to admit this and go into fits of denial when it is brought up, but it is a fact that is undeniable. Before the Beirut Embassy and Barrack's bombing that followed the Embassy attack, middle eastern terror groups focused on Israel and refrained from attaching Americans or American interest. After the attacks they added Americans and American interest to their target list as acceptable tactical and strategic targets.

amazon.com/PeaceKeepers-War-Beirut-Marine-Commander-/dp/1597974250

Anyone who attempts to debate the fact about Reagan's response to the Beirut Barracks bombing giving birth to modern day terrorism need only show the terrorist attacks before Reagan came into office and the ones that occurred after the Embassy and Barracks Bombing.

And if Reagan has done anything more "robust", you would be claiming that modern anti-american terrorism was blow back from that.

You are speculating in a way that supports your support for Reagan. The attack on the Marines was carried out by Hezbollah with support from Iran. Hezbollah is a terror group sponsored by Iran. Instead of hunting them down and punishing them the created Iran-Contra. Killing Americans became very profitable under Reagan.

No, there was not speculation in my post.

Your behavior leaves no doubt as to the fact that no matter what, you would put the blame on the Republican.

It contains about as much "speculation" as if you let go of an object over a drop, that it will fall.

MMm, yes, good analogy. The odds of gravity suddenly failing is about the same as you NOT blaming a Republican.

You are predicting and how I would react if something that didn't happen had happened. That is pure speculation.
Where are your examples of Hezbollah off shoot terror groups attacking US targets before Reagan? Do we need to start listing the ones that happened under Reagan?

 

[Correll]

Reagan's failure to respond in a robust and meaningful show of force and punishment and to seek out the specific terrorist responsible for the murderers of the Marines and the attack on the Embassy in Beirut led to an era of fearless terrorist making continued and consistent attacks on Americans and American interest. Reagan worshipers hate to admit this and go into fits of denial when it is brought up, but it is a fact that is undeniable. Before the Beirut Embassy and Barrack's bombing that followed the Embassy attack, middle eastern terror groups focused on Israel and refrained from attaching Americans or American interest. After the attacks they added Americans and American interest to their target list as acceptable tactical and strategic targets.

amazon.com/PeaceKeepers-War-Beirut-Marine-Commander-/dp/1597974250

Anyone who attempts to debate the fact about Reagan's response to the Beirut Barracks bombing giving birth to modern day terrorism need only show the terrorist attacks before Reagan came into office and the ones that occurred after the Embassy and Barracks Bombing.

And if Reagan has done anything more "robust", you would be claiming that modern anti-american terrorism was blow back from that.

You are speculating in a way that supports your support for Reagan. The attack on the Marines was carried out by Hezbollah with support from Iran. Hezbollah is a terror group sponsored by Iran. Instead of hunting them down and punishing them the created Iran-Contra. Killing Americans became very profitable under Reagan.

No, there was not speculation in my post.

Your behavior leaves no doubt as to the fact that no matter what, you would put the blame on the Republican.

It contains about as much "speculation" as if you let go of an object over a drop, that it will fall.

MMm, yes, good analogy. The odds of gravity suddenly failing is about the same as you NOT blaming a Republican.

You are predicting and how I would react if something that didn't happen had happened. That is pure speculation.
Where are your examples of Hezbollah off shoot terror groups attacking US targets before Reagan? Do we need to start listing the ones that happened under Reagan?

Sure it is.

I just dropped something.

Guess what? It fell.

I "speculated" that it would.