24 Hours? How about 1330 Hours have passed and no end to the Russian/Ukraine war! Trump Con?

[Correll]

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The staggering cost of Russia's war in Ukraine​

Feb 24, 2025 — Nearly $300 billion spent, more than 150,000 lives lost and over 10 million displaced. Here's what three years of war in Ukraine add up to for Russia.

Well, if this hasn't caused Putin's supporters, the powerful men, and the people to turn on him yet, then there is no limit

It is insanely dumb, to climb that russia's ability to take losses, is literally without limit.

He is hoping? Hahahahaha

Yes. Putin, IMO, has to be ready to cut his losses, but he sees the possiblity of taking back KURSK, thus depriving Zelenski of a strong card to play.

Your attempt to pretend that that is a ridiculous concept, is idiotic on your part.

 

[Luckyone]

It is insanely dumb, to climb that russia's ability to take losses, is literally without limit.

As long as it doesn't cost Putin (not Russia) those losses, he doesn't give a shit.

Yes. Putin, IMO, has to be ready to cut his losses, but he sees the possiblity of taking back KURSK, thus depriving Zelenski of a strong card to play.

Your attempt to pretend that that is a ridiculous concept, is idiotic on your part.

Well, the answer is in the facts. He has been fighting for 3 years. He is showing more losses than wins and when he agrees to a simple cease fire for 30 days, he breaks that treaty within a few days and continues.

He is showing brawn but not brains

 

[Correll]

As long as it doesn't cost Putin (not Russia) those losses, he doesn't give a shit.

Russia is PUTIN'S. He cares. And his power and support is based in RUSSIA.

He can run it into the ground, and to an extent, already has, but he breaks it enough and the people under him, will turn on him.

You pretense that he can simplyig ignore reality, is nonsense.

Well, the answer is in the facts. He has been fighting for 3 years. He is showing more losses than wins and when he agrees to a simple cease fire for 30 days, he breaks that treaty within a few days and continues.

He is showing brawn but not brains

You didn't say anything that addressed or contradicted what I said.

i stand by my point about Kursk.

 

[Luckyone]

Russia is PUTIN'S. He cares. And his power and support is based in RUSSIA.

He can run it into the ground, and to an extent, already has, but he breaks it enough and the people under him, will turn on him.

You pretense that he can simplyig ignore reality, is nonsense.

You didn't say anything that addressed or contradicted what I said.

i stand by my point about Kursk.

You can try to explain it whatever way you want, but everything you state has already been proven wrong. Putin has lost every single month, and this is now into the 37th month and the 38th month is almost here, and the 39th month and the 40th month, etc. He keeps on fighting and shows NO desire/intent/effort to stop it.

You have inside information on what his limits are? Is it $500 billion in losses and 200,000 men killed? Is it $1 trillion and 400,000 men? Give us the exact number. We wait for you to tell us what it is.

 

[Correll]

You can try to explain it whatever way you want, but everything you state has already been proven wrong. Putin has lost every single month, and this is now into the 37th month and the 38th month is almost here, and the 39th month and the 40th month, etc. He keeps on fighting and shows NO desire/intent/effort to stop it.

You have inside information on what his limits are? Is it $500 billion in losses and 200,000 men killed? Is it $1 trillion and 400,000 men? Give us the exact number. We wait for you to tell us what it is.

That is a retarded demand. You are teh one making the absurd claim that Putin, though sheer force of will, can just force Russia to fight, without any limits on what it can lose.


I don't know pretend to know what the limits are. I DO know that there is no way that Putin nor his high level supporters, planned for this war to go on this long or to be this bloody for them.

AND, I can see that the rate of them gaining ground, currently is a snail's pace that is not looking good for them winnign this war, any time soon.

 

[Luckyone]

That is a retarded demand. You are teh one making the absurd claim that Putin, though sheer force of will, can just force Russia to fight, without any limits on what it can lose.


I don't know pretend to know what the limits are. I DO know that there is no way that Putin nor his high level supporters, planned for this war to go on this long or to be this bloody for them.

AND, I can see that the rate of them gaining ground, currently is a snail's pace that is not looking good for them winnign this war, any time soon.

but he continues to fight, no? He is showing NO SIGNS of stopping, right?

 

[Correll]

but he continues to fight, no? He is showing NO SIGNS of stopping, right?

Well, he has agreed in principle, to a ceasefire and to the idea of finding a peace deal, so that is a SIGN of mentally preparing to stop at some point not too far off.

But yes, he is continuing to fight, with little "signs of stopping".


As i discussed. Constantly. Over a period of months.

 

[DBA]

Are you trying to say that what someone promises and guarantees that it will get done in a certain period of time and it does not happen, has no importance and should be ignored?

That saying something like what Trump said falsely "For the benefit of winning the election" has no importance?

That lies and/or excessive statements are permitted?

We are saying that everybody that is above the age of 10 and evidently NOT a Democrat knows when something should be taken literally. If you ask your neighbor if you could “borrow” some sugar for your coffee and they said “sure, no problem, I have a ton of it”, do you actually think they have 2,000 lbs of sugar in the pantry? Maybe, just maybe, they meant that they have plenty so giving you some is no big deal. Do you think they took your request to “borrow” literally and expect you to come by the next day with a couple of teaspoons of sugar for repayment?

 

[Luckyone]

Well, he has agreed in principle, to a ceasefire and to the idea of finding a peace deal, so that is a SIGN of mentally preparing to stop at some point not too far off.

But yes, he is continuing to fight, with little "signs of stopping".


As i discussed. Constantly. Over a period of months.

Well, he does want what he wants and if he can get it WITHOUT fighting, that is great for him, isn't it? That does NOT mean he is "mentally preparing" for anything. It means he is USING Trump to get him what he wants "free of charge".

37 months to be exact. No capitulating on anything yet!!!

 

[DBA]

Well, he does want what he wants and if he can get it WITHOUT fighting, that is great for him, isn't it? That does NOT mean he is "mentally preparing" for anything. It means he is USING Trump to get him what he wants "free of charge".

37 months to be exact. No capitulating on anything yet!!!

If the US continued down the Biden path, Russia would have ultimately taken much more of Ukrainian territory, many more people would have died and the US would have been out billions more dollars. I’m not sure why anyone would think that was a better plan. It really just boils down to “Trump bad”, regardless of outcome.

 

[krichton]

i stopped readying here, I am not in the mood to talk to children.

This is because you can’t dispute a single thing I’ve been saying this entire time, that doesn’t have an easy answer you can reference from your maga script. This is why you keep repeating the same lines and talking points over and over. Just concede that you’ve lost the debate and be an adult. Shocking that at your advanced age now that you’re still playing these games. I’m not the child here lol

 

[krichton]

If the US continued down the Biden path, Russia would have ultimately taken much more of Ukrainian territory, many more people would have died and the US would have been out billions more dollars. I’m not sure why anyone would think that was a better plan. It really just boils down to “Trump bad”, regardless of outcome.

Exactly how would that happen when Biden never considered stopping the flow of weapons into ukraine and only increased the allowance of their usage to strike deeper into Russia? Russia has only gotten as far as they have because Biden wasn’t quick enough to grant more weapons. It really just boils down to “biden bad,” regardless of outcome.

 

[krichton]

Again you don't understand how well Russian propaganda works since there is no public dissent.

Putin has full control of the nerratives.

You should take some time to listen to what's going on in the heads of Russians:




These brainwashed masses are NEVER going to blame Putin while he still has all these propaganda levers. They'll keep beliving that any death toll will be worth it, because Dear Leader and their TV says 10 times a day that it's worth it.

Look at how far constantly lying and spreading propaganda can get you in the US, much less in Russia, but it's not just propaganda, it's also programming and fear as well. Putin has programmed his people for over 30 years now, an entire generation, through his own state tv and the media. It's an absolute joy when US politicians parrot his nonsense here in America so they can play it back for the public. Just look at Correl and all the useful idiots here on this messageboard alone have taken it all in. They don't just believe Trump propaganda but Russian propaganda as well.

 

[krichton]

Why should he when Trump is busy fighting with Zelenskyy, is spatting with our allies, interferes with appropriated weapons and intelligence assistance, rejects any security guarantees and puts exactly zero pressure on Putin?

Why the hell would Putin do anything differently when this is going so well for him with Trump?

Precisely. Putin giving in now couldn't possibly the dumbest thing any person, much less Putin would do. Trump is his shining beacon of light right now when the war looked hopeless.

 

[mamooth]

So in reality, you are not prepared to piss away ukrainian lives till every inch of ukrainian territory has been regained?

Cool, deflecting with a loopy strawman. We've never seen that from you before. Oh wait, it's all you do.

Any display of intellectual honesty is, to a Trump cultist, a sign that someone is a dirty liberal, so they avoid it at all costs.

 

[Luckyone]

If the US continued down the Biden path, Russia would have ultimately taken much more of Ukrainian territory, many more people would have died and the US would have been out billions more dollars. I’m not sure why anyone would think that was a better plan. It really just boils down to “Trump bad”, regardless of outcome.

BS. It was Biden that imposed the sanctions that have brought so much economic pain to Putin and Biden was planning to add more. Trump is the one that is helping Putin.

 

[DBA]

Exactly how would that happen when Biden never considered stopping the flow of weapons into ukraine and only increased the allowance of their usage to strike deeper into Russia? Russia has only gotten as far as they have because Biden wasn’t quick enough to grant more weapons. It really just boils down to “biden bad,” regardless of outcome.

So in your opinion, Ukraine would have defeated Russia and pushed them out with our help? Wow, ok.

 

[Correll]

We are saying that everybody that is above the age of 10 and evidently NOT a Democrat knows when something should be taken literally. If you ask your neighbor if you could “borrow” some sugar for your coffee and they said “sure, no problem, I have a ton of it”, do you actually think they have 2,000 lbs of sugar in the pantry? Maybe, just maybe, they meant that they have plenty so giving you some is no big deal. Do you think they took your request to “borrow” literally and expect you to come by the next day with a couple of teaspoons of sugar for repayment?

The lefty knows this. He is just pretending to be too stupid to know it, becuase it is all he can do, to try to gin up SOMETHING to attack Trump on.


THe alternative is to be honest about the cost of his policy, ie possibly hundreds of thousands of dead people, men, women and children.

 

[Correll]

Well, he does want what he wants and if he can get it WITHOUT fighting, that is great for him, isn't it? That does NOT mean he is "mentally preparing" for anything. It means he is USING Trump to get him what he wants "free of charge".

37 months to be exact. No capitulating on anything yet!!!

Except, what he wants is all of ukraine. He can't get that.

YOu aren't really making ANY sense here.

You are being mixing up being vague and playing stupid and just asserting random dumb shit, in a mix, designed to avoid serious discussion.

 

[Correll]

This is because you can’t dispute a single thing I’ve been saying this entire time, that doesn’t have an easy answer....

no, it's becuase you were talking like a baby. So, I'm done coddling you like you are a baby.