24 Hours? How about 1330 Hours have passed and no end to the Russian/Ukraine war! Trump Con?

[Correll]

Cool, deflecting with a loopy strawman. We've never seen that from you before. Oh wait, it's all you do.

Any display of intellectual honesty is, to a Trump cultist, a sign that someone is a dirty liberal, so they avoid it at all costs.

NONE of you leftards, are willing to discuss a cost/benefit analysis of your ukrainian war policy.


The bit about "ukrainian territory" is a very vague and evasive answer, because it could mean anything from wanting to protect remaining "territory" to wanting "every square inch back".


Because we can debate our conflicting policies or desired outcomes,


YOU LEFTARDS have to be clear about what your policy is, and what you want.

So far, NONE Of you had had the balls to do this.

 

[krichton]

no, it's becuase you were talking like a baby. So, I'm done coddling you like you are a baby.

Why can't you rebut the arguments of a baby though? That's the bigger question. Doesn't this kind of make all your arguments completely worthless, if not your credibility as well?

 

[Correll]

Why can't you rebut the arguments of a baby though? That's the bigger question. Doesn't this kind of make all your arguments completely worthless, if not your credibility as well?

No, it doesn't. Grown ups are on a different level than babies.

 

[krichton]

So in your opinion, Ukraine would have defeated Russia and pushed them out with our help? Wow, ok.

Your original claim was that Russia would have claimed more territory if we continued down the path Biden was leading us, but gave no explanation as to how that would happen, despite that fact that front lines have barely changed in the last 2 years. if anything Ukraine, gained infinitely more territory in just a few weeks, by taking Kursk. They hold nearly the size of Los Angeles in square miles. By all accounts Biden looked like her was allowing the Ukrainians to do more and more offensively, which was not necessarily the case early on. Biden, if anything has held the Ukrainians back. Now tell me how were the Russians were going to take more territory. If anything they might retaken more terrority when Trump put a pause on weapons and intelligence. Irony, you gotta love it.

 

[krichton]

No, it doesn't. Grown ups are on a different level than babies.

It does, your ego just can't admit it. Nothing says you've lost an argument like repeated name calling, LOL And at your age too! What are you like 100 now?

 

[Correll]

It does, your ego just can't admit it. Nothing says you've lost an argument like repeated name calling, LOL And at your age too! What are you like 100 now?

You're choosing to talk like a baby. I am taking you are your... word?

You want to stop doing that, I am ready to engage.

 

[DBA]

Your original claim was that Russia would have claimed more territory if we continued down the path Biden was leading us, but gave no explanation as to how that would happen, despite that fact that front lines have barely changed in the last 2 years. if anything Ukraine, gained infinitely more territory in just a few weeks, by taking Kursk. They hold nearly the size of Los Angeles in square miles. By all accounts Biden looked like her was allowing the Ukrainians to do more and more offensively, which was not necessarily the case early on. Biden, if anything has held the Ukrainians back. Now tell me how were the Russians were going to take more territory. If anything they might retaken more terrority when Trump put a pause on weapons and intelligence. Irony, you gotta love it.

So let’s assume the Russians would not have taken any more ground. They were at a stalemate in your mind. It makes sense to you for the US to continue to fund this stalemate ad nauseam? Russia wasn’t going to just leave. That is a pipe dream. What was Biden’s end game?

 

[krichton]

So let’s assume the Russians would not have taken any more ground. They were at a stalemate in your mind. It makes sense to you for the US to continue to fund this stalemate ad nauseam? Russia wasn’t going to just leave. That is a pipe dream. What was Biden’s end game?

They were at a stalemate because of the reluctance of the US to provide more weapons as well as allow Ukrainians to push forward more with those same weapons. That only began to change towards the end of Biden's term, but too little too late.

Why didn't you have a problem with Reagan funding the cold war, which was far and away way more expensive? hmm?

What will Russia do once they run out of tanks and IFVs? Attack in mass on foot? How will Russia fund the war with sanctions in place and an economy on the brink of collapse? Interest rates in Russia are currently at 20%. The ruble has never been lower. Companies are filing for bankruptcy in waves. You think this war will go on forever when Putin runs out of weapons and money???

 

[krichton]

You're choosing to talk like a baby. I am taking you are your... word?

You want to stop doing that, I am ready to engage.

You stopped engaging when you lost the argument and had no way to gracefully bow out of the conversation. Sad for you that a man in his 80s presumably (or someone just pretending to be really old) still isn't mature enough even with one foot in the grave to admit they lost the argument. Instead, you've basically resorted to name calling which I actually looove because when ppl I debate with start calling me names that's when I know they've admitted defeat, and in the most immature and embarrassing way possible.

 

[Correll]

You stopped engaging when you lost the argument and had no way to gracefully bow out of the conversation. ....

Nope. YOu choose to talk like a baby and I just wasn't in the mode to coddle you like a baby.

If you can't deal with that, I don't care. But I'm not interesting in discussing your personal failures.

You want to grow up and discuss issues or polices, here on this discussion site, I will engage.

You want to talk like a baby, I might if I am in the mode. Right now, I am not.

 

[krichton]

Nope. YOu choose to talk like a baby and I just wasn't in the mode to coddle you like a baby.

If you can't deal with that, I don't care. But I'm not interesting in discussing your personal failures.

You want to grow up and discuss issues or polices, here on this discussion site, I will engage.

You want to talk like a baby, I might if I am in the mode. Right now, I am not.

I've never talked like a baby on here but you continue to prove you don't mind acting like one.

"Quick question. How long will Ukraine last after this last batch of weapons is used up? You know Trump isn't going to authorize new weapons after this, right? This has been Trump's end goal all along. How many times can Trump pause weapons shipments (the first was in 2019) to Ukraine before you finally stick your head out of the sand and realize he's a freaking russian asset and a traitor? Dump is basically shouting it at the top his lungs."

This was my last post to you before you forfeited the debate, bowed out and started name calling. I don't blame you. Many people when confronted with uncomfortable truths, will often lash out and lose any semblance of wanting an actual adult conversation. But in your case, I think you simply couldn't stand me saying, "Dump" one more time, LOL.

 

[Correll]

I've never talked like a baby on here but.....

When you shit talk, I lose interest fast. You want to say something relevant, front load it. And maybe skip the shit talk. Till then, too bored to address your shit.

 

[krichton]

When you shit talk, I lose interest fast. You want to say something relevant, front load it. And maybe skip the shit talk. Till then, too bored to address your shit.

Not too bored, incapable. Keep fangirling DUMP

 

[Correll]

Not too bored, incapable. Keep fangirling DUMP

This is for you.

 

[mamooth]

NONE of you leftards, are willing to discuss a cost/benefit analysis of your ukrainian war policy.

Has your gaslighting ever worked on a non-fascist? Just stop. We discuss, you refuse to address what we say, then you lie like a rug and run. It's kind of what defines you, that constant intellectual cowardice.

So, what do you gain from serving Russian fascists? Being that now you're just a interesting case study in abnormal psychology, I think everyone is curious. What specifically drives your type of moral deviance?

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Has your gaslighting ever worked on a non-fascist? Just stop. We discuss, you refuse to address what we say, then you lie like a rug and run. It's kind of what defines you, that constant intellectual cowardice.

So, what do you gain from serving Russian fascists? Being that now you're just a interesting case study in abnormal psychology, I think everyone is curious. What specifically drives your type of moral deviance?

 

[mamooth]

Same question to you. What benefits do you get from helping out fascists?

I'm guessing it's emotional, being that you're not getting material gain. After all, Russia or China or Iran or NK wouldn't pay for the stuff you produce. They're not that desperate. So what emotional need of yours does supporting fascism satisfy?

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[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Same question to you. What benefits do you get from helping out fascists?

I'm guessing it's emotional, being that you're not getting material gain. After all, Russia or China or Iran or NK wouldn't pay for the stuff you produce. They're not that desperate. So what emotional need of yours does supporting fascism satisfy?

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[Correll]

Has your gaslighting ever worked on a non-fascist? Just stop. We discuss, you refuse to address what we say, then you lie like a rug and run. It's kind of what defines you, that constant intellectual cowardice.

Your lyihng about this is noted. THe fact remains, the crux of the matter is that you lefties want to weaken russia, but refuse to discuss if the gain to US on this is worth the cost in ukrainian lives.

Because, you know it is not.


YOur policy is a bad policy.

So, what do you gain from serving Russian fascists? Being that now you're just a interesting case study in abnormal psychology, I think everyone is curious. What specifically drives your type of moral deviance?

My gain, is that the ukrainians, and to a lesser extent, the russians stop dying and instead get to start rebuilding and surviving.

That is what I want from this policy.

 

[mamooth]

Your lyihng about this is noted. THe fact remains, the crux of the matter is that you lefties want to weaken russia, but refuse to discuss if the gain to US on this is worth the cost in ukrainian lives.

I'm sure your rants make sense to you and the voices, but they don't make any sense to normal people.

We're saving Ukrainian lives. That's why you sound so insane. You're arguing for Ukrainian genocide, so you're the one who needs to justify your lunatic policy.