2% of the population is gay

[KevinWestern]

That claim is the truth. Only people who were in yer face were discharged. The military largely looked the other way on gays.

Well, what about the times the military didn't look the other way? Do you think it's fair for an officer to have his/her career ended simply because it's known that they are attracted to members of the same sex, in the absence of any other offenses? Gay soldiers had to keep stories of their significant others to themselves, whereas straight soldiers could talk freely about it. Do you think that's a fair situation?

Yeah, Manning got off easy. Sold secrets to Wiki and got only 37 years and gets a free sex change operation. He should have gotten the firing squad.

I'm not too involved in his case, but I know he's mainly known for leaking documents that shows US soldiers killing innocent civilians. I personally believe his intent was to show people that (at least a portion of) their tax dollars do go towards killing innocent people.

My question is, who pays the price for the tens of thousands of innocent civilians and US soldiers that have been killed in the past 10 years as a result of the US invading Iraq? You can give Manning the 35 years - sure, that's the law I suppose - but what about the folks who got us into this mess in the first place, misleading the US public with a false premise, resulting in well over 6k US deaths?

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[The Rabbi]

That claim is the truth. Only people who were in yer face were discharged. The military largely looked the other way on gays.

The "military largely looked the other way on gays"; well, what about the times they didn't? Do you think it's fair for an officer to have his/her career ended simply because it's known that they are attracted to members of the same sex, in the absence of any other offenses?

Yeah, Manning got off easy. Sold secrets to Wiki and got only 37 years and gets a free sex change operation. He should have gotten the firing squad.

I'm not too involved in his case, but I know he's mainly known for leaking documents that shows US soldiers killing innocent civilians. I personally believe his intent was to show people that (at least a portion of) their tax dollars do go towards killing innocent people.

My question is, who pays the price for the tens of thousands of innocent civilians and US soldiers that have been killed in the past 10 years as a result of the US invading Iraq? You can give Manning the 35 years - sure, that's the law I suppose - but what about the folks who got us into this mess in the first place, misleading the US public with a false premise, resulting in well over 6k US deaths?

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Please show me the officers who were relieved because it was discovered they were gay. There aren't any.
As for Manning, why do you deflect to a war that was voted on by Congress and the vast majority of Americans supported? A war that was justified entirely, btw. Is it because you have no answer to the basic question?

 

[KevinWestern]

That claim is the truth. Only people who were in yer face were discharged. The military largely looked the other way on gays.

The "military largely looked the other way on gays"; well, what about the times they didn't? Do you think it's fair for an officer to have his/her career ended simply because it's known that they are attracted to members of the same sex, in the absence of any other offenses?

Yeah, Manning got off easy. Sold secrets to Wiki and got only 37 years and gets a free sex change operation. He should have gotten the firing squad.

I'm not too involved in his case, but I know he's mainly known for leaking documents that shows US soldiers killing innocent civilians. I personally believe his intent was to show people that (at least a portion of) their tax dollars do go towards killing innocent people.

My question is, who pays the price for the tens of thousands of innocent civilians and US soldiers that have been killed in the past 10 years as a result of the US invading Iraq? You can give Manning the 35 years - sure, that's the law I suppose - but what about the folks who got us into this mess in the first place, misleading the US public with a false premise, resulting in well over 6k US deaths?

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Please show me the officers who were relieved because it was discovered they were gay. There aren't any.
As for Manning, why do you deflect to a war that was voted on by Congress and the vast majority of Americans supported? A war that was justified entirely, btw. Is it because you have no answer to the basic question?

As I understand it, over 10,000 soldiers have been officially discharged under the DADT law. Are you saying all those individuals committed additional offenses (besides being gay) to warrant being kicked out?

Secondly, I'm fully aware that the war was voted on by Congress, and I'm fully prepared to hold every single Congressperson who voted on that war accountable for their actions. Are you saying that we shouldn't be held responsible for an action if we... eh... voted on it?

If the US Gov't voted on burning up the Constitution and instituting a Monarchy, as well as the execution of anyone who disagreed, would you be "ok" with that just because there was an official vote?

Also, the American people supported the war because they were actively lied to by our President and other officials on why we were entering the war. If there was no WMD lie, and no media hysteria surrounding that lie, the people would not have supported that war. How many people would be on board if our politicians would have taken the honest route and explained that "we're going to a war with a country that poses no threat to the United States right now, nor was involved to any degree with Al-Qaeda and the 9/11 attacks. Who would buy that?

Which basic question do I not have an answer to, by the way?

 

[RandallFlagg]

That claim is the truth. Only people who were in yer face were discharged. The military largely looked the other way on gays.

The "military largely looked the other way on gays"; well, what about the times they didn't? Do you think it's fair for an officer to have his/her career ended simply because it's known that they are attracted to members of the same sex, in the absence of any other offenses?

Yeah, Manning got off easy. Sold secrets to Wiki and got only 37 years and gets a free sex change operation. He should have gotten the firing squad.

I'm not too involved in his case, but I know he's mainly known for leaking documents that shows US soldiers killing innocent civilians. I personally believe his intent was to show people that (at least a portion of) their tax dollars do go towards killing innocent people.

My question is, who pays the price for the tens of thousands of innocent civilians and US soldiers that have been killed in the past 10 years as a result of the US invading Iraq? You can give Manning the 35 years - sure, that's the law I suppose - but what about the folks who got us into this mess in the first place, misleading the US public with a false premise, resulting in well over 6k US deaths?

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Please show me the officers who were relieved because it was discovered they were gay. There aren't any.
As for Manning, why do you deflect to a war that was voted on by Congress and the vast majority of Americans supported? A war that was justified entirely, btw. Is it because you have no answer to the basic question?

I just did a quick check and although I didn't find evidence of any Officer being relieved for being gay, I, (interestingly enough) DID come across this:

REVERSE Don?t Ask Don?t Tell for Christians? Air Force Sergeant REASSIGNED for disagreeing with gay marriage » The Right Scoop -

Gee...Who'd a thunk it would happen.........

Additionally, I ran across this - which actually surprised the heck out of me. I thought the French were so "liberal"???

http://angelqueen.org/2013/06/12/fr...-marry-homosexual-couple-risks-years-in-jail/

 

[KevinWestern]

I just did a quick check and although I didn't find evidence of any Officer being relieved for being gay, I, (interestingly enough) DID come across this:

REVERSE Don?t Ask Don?t Tell for Christians? Air Force Sergeant REASSIGNED for disagreeing with gay marriage » The Right Scoop -

Gee...Who'd a thunk it would happen.........

Additionally, I ran across this - which actually surprised the heck out of me. I thought the French were so "liberal"???

French mayor refuses to ?marry? homosexual couple: risks years in jail | Angelqueen.org

So wait, one guy got reassigned while over 10,000 (on the other end of the spectrum) were discharged?

Now, is that what you call a strong argument?

 

[Warrior102]

If this is true based on someone here stating it. Why all the worry about being forced to accept it? Are you that worried about 2%? Regardless if you feel its abnormal, a choice or whatever. How can 2% Really be that mich of a threat to your way of life. At 2% the odds of you running into a gay person are rather slim.

Well slim if you dont actively go seeking it.

If you want to suck another man's dick - no one should have an issue with it.
Suck away, asswipe.
Be sure to wipe/wash up.

 

[Spoonman]

If this is true based on someone here stating it. Why all the worry about being forced to accept it? Are you that worried about 2%? Regardless if you feel its abnormal, a choice or whatever. How can 2% Really be that mich of a threat to your way of life. At 2% the odds of you running into a gay person are rather slim.

Well slim if you dont actively go seeking it.

idk, you libs seem to be awefully worried about the 1%. just how many exclusive country clubs do you belong to and how many gated communities do you reside in?

 

[RandallFlagg]

I just did a quick check and although I didn't find evidence of any Officer being relieved for being gay, I, (interestingly enough) DID come across this:

REVERSE Don?t Ask Don?t Tell for Christians? Air Force Sergeant REASSIGNED for disagreeing with gay marriage » The Right Scoop -

Gee...Who'd a thunk it would happen.........

Additionally, I ran across this - which actually surprised the heck out of me. I thought the French were so "liberal"???

French mayor refuses to ?marry? homosexual couple: risks years in jail | Angelqueen.org

So wait, one guy got reassigned while over 10,000 (on the other end of the spectrum) were discharged?

Now, is that what you call a strong argument?

The only "argument" I'm making is that speak out now - and watch what happens. Your "career" in the military will be over. Those fudge packers that were discharged - can sue for relief.

Open your mouth about a subordinate being punished too harshly for DISAGREEING with fags - and you lose your career.

If you can't discern the difference, then I don't know what to tell you....

 

[The Rabbi]

The "military largely looked the other way on gays"; well, what about the times they didn't? Do you think it's fair for an officer to have his/her career ended simply because it's known that they are attracted to members of the same sex, in the absence of any other offenses?



I'm not too involved in his case, but I know he's mainly known for leaking documents that shows US soldiers killing innocent civilians. I personally believe his intent was to show people that (at least a portion of) their tax dollars do go towards killing innocent people.

My question is, who pays the price for the tens of thousands of innocent civilians and US soldiers that have been killed in the past 10 years as a result of the US invading Iraq? You can give Manning the 35 years - sure, that's the law I suppose - but what about the folks who got us into this mess in the first place, misleading the US public with a false premise, resulting in well over 6k US deaths?

.

Please show me the officers who were relieved because it was discovered they were gay. There aren't any.
As for Manning, why do you deflect to a war that was voted on by Congress and the vast majority of Americans supported? A war that was justified entirely, btw. Is it because you have no answer to the basic question?

As I understand it, over 10,000 soldiers have been officially discharged under the DADT law. Are you saying all those individuals committed additional offenses (besides being gay) to warrant being kicked out?

Secondly, I'm fully aware that the war was voted on by Congress, and I'm fully prepared to hold every single Congressperson who voted on that war accountable for their actions. Are you saying that we shouldn't be held responsible for an action if we... eh... voted on it?

If the US Gov't voted on burning up the Constitution and instituting a Monarchy, as well as the execution of anyone who disagreed, would you be "ok" with that just because there was an official vote?

Also, the American people supported the war because they were actively lied to by our President and other officials on why we were entering the war. If there was no WMD lie, and no media hysteria surrounding that lie, the people would not have supported that war. How many people would be on board if our politicians would have taken the honest route and explained that "we're going to a war with a country that poses no threat to the United States right now, nor was involved to any degree with Al-Qaeda and the 9/11 attacks. Who would buy that?

Which basic question do I not have an answer to, by the way?

OK, that's 10k "soldiers", not officers. So right there you've contradicted your post.
Second, my contention is that people got kicked out for being gay because they wanted to get kicked out. I see nothing to contradict that in your post.
Congress voted for the war and they acted constitutionally. Are you really comparing a constitutional exercise of power to an unconstitutional one? It wouldn't surprise me. The wookie-suiters dont exactly live in reality-land.

 

[KevinWestern]

I just did a quick check and although I didn't find evidence of any Officer being relieved for being gay, I, (interestingly enough) DID come across this:

REVERSE Don?t Ask Don?t Tell for Christians? Air Force Sergeant REASSIGNED for disagreeing with gay marriage » The Right Scoop -

Gee...Who'd a thunk it would happen.........

Additionally, I ran across this - which actually surprised the heck out of me. I thought the French were so "liberal"???

French mayor refuses to ?marry? homosexual couple: risks years in jail | Angelqueen.org

So wait, one guy got reassigned while over 10,000 (on the other end of the spectrum) were discharged?

Now, is that what you call a strong argument?

The only "argument" I'm making is that speak out now - and watch what happens. Your "career" in the military will be over. Those fudge packers that were discharged - can sue for relief.

Open your mouth about a subordinate being punished too harshly for DISAGREEING with fags - and you lose your career.

If you can't discern the difference, then I don't know what to tell you....

Your example is someone speaking out AGAINST a fellow soldier, which is an action that causes disunity amongst a group and probably not a good thing for an army division.

My example is someone having the ability to telling the truth and speak on their OWN life with honesty (instead of being forced to lie when it comes to the topic of significant other).

If you can't discern the difference, then I don't know what to tell you...

 

[bodecea]

If this is true based on someone here stating it. Why all the worry about being forced to accept it? Are you that worried about 2%? Regardless if you feel its abnormal, a choice or whatever. How can 2% Really be that mich of a threat to your way of life. At 2% the odds of you running into a gay person are rather slim.

Well slim if you dont actively go seeking it.

If you want to suck another man's dick - no one should have an issue with it.
Suck away, asswipe.
Be sure to wipe/wash up.

^Another RWr who talks/thinks about gay sex more than gay people do.

 

[Plasmaball]

Homos live a lifestyle that is in opposition to mainstream culture. If they want equal rights, then why not allow bigamy in all states?

It's a sinful lifestyle

-Geaux

non answer

 

[bodecea]

I just did a quick check and although I didn't find evidence of any Officer being relieved for being gay, I, (interestingly enough) DID come across this:

REVERSE Don?t Ask Don?t Tell for Christians? Air Force Sergeant REASSIGNED for disagreeing with gay marriage » The Right Scoop -

Gee...Who'd a thunk it would happen.........

Additionally, I ran across this - which actually surprised the heck out of me. I thought the French were so "liberal"???

French mayor refuses to ?marry? homosexual couple: risks years in jail | Angelqueen.org

So wait, one guy got reassigned while over 10,000 (on the other end of the spectrum) were discharged?

Now, is that what you call a strong argument?

The only "argument" I'm making is that speak out now - and watch what happens. Your "career" in the military will be over. Those fudge packers that were discharged - can sue for relief.

Open your mouth about a subordinate being punished too harshly for DISAGREEING with fags - and you lose your career.

If you can't discern the difference, then I don't know what to tell you....

Gay vets discharged under DADT can sue for full severance | Suits & Sentences blog They are.

 

[Plasmaball]

Well, if in fact, 2% is true, that means 98% of the population ISN'T gay. So why then are we, the 98%, bending over backwards to accomodate these "people"?

We have allowed them to change the Boy Scouts, the Girl Scouts, the Military and have just began to see the effects of gay "marriage".

All of tht for a lousy 2% of the population. Makes sense to me.

Non answer. ...

No it was a good answer. You just dismiss it because it isnt the answer you want. That and the fact that you're stupid.

nobody is bending over backwards for these people. People are accessing the situations and judging the fact that these policies are not needed anymore. Not allowing gays to be open in the military was simply bigoted and not needed.

Blacks at this moment in time are 10-12% of the population and yet we felt the need to bend over for them to fight for our nation or get married to white folks.

 

[Luissa]

If this is true based on someone here stating it. Why all the worry about being forced to accept it? Are you that worried about 2%? Regardless if you feel its abnormal, a choice or whatever. How can 2% Really be that mich of a threat to your way of life. At 2% the odds of you running into a gay person are rather slim.

Well slim if you dont actively go seeking it.

If you want to suck another man's dick - no one should have an issue with it.
Suck away, asswipe.
Be sure to wipe/wash up.

Why are you so obsessed with gay sex?

 

[Plasmaball]

Ok so no real serious answer yet..

How are 2% a threat to society...feel free to leave out silly hyperbole

Why even bother to bring it up here, Plasma. The gay bashing usual suspects just have one more opportunity to preach their hate and bigotry. It is absoluetly nexecssary to their self esteem to have someone to look down upon.

because i found what LGS said to be amusing. How can these people get that up in arms over 2% of the population. I knew their answers before they even posted.

For the most part these people are on the extinction line. They will die off and us younger folks will accept these societal changes.

The whole idea about how enraged they get over 2% is hilarious.

 

[Plasmaball]

If this is true based on someone here stating it. Why all the worry about being forced to accept it? Are you that worried about 2%? Regardless if you feel its abnormal, a choice or whatever. How can 2% Really be that mich of a threat to your way of life. At 2% the odds of you running into a gay person are rather slim.

Well slim if you dont actively go seeking it.

If you want to suck another man's dick - no one should have an issue with it.
Suck away, asswipe.
Be sure to wipe/wash up.

you are the expert lot lizard. you talk about more dick than a gay male porn site.

 

[Plasmaball]

If this is true based on someone here stating it. Why all the worry about being forced to accept it? Are you that worried about 2%? Regardless if you feel its abnormal, a choice or whatever. How can 2% Really be that mich of a threat to your way of life. At 2% the odds of you running into a gay person are rather slim.

Well slim if you dont actively go seeking it.

idk, you libs seem to be awefully worried about the 1%. just how many exclusive country clubs do you belong to and how many gated communities do you reside in?

no i don't. why would i worry about that?

 

[The Rabbi]

Non answer. ...

No it was a good answer. You just dismiss it because it isnt the answer you want. That and the fact that you're stupid.

nobody is bending over backwards for these people. People are accessing the situations and judging the fact that these policies are not needed anymore. Not allowing gays to be open in the military was simply bigoted and not needed.

Blacks at this moment in time are 10-12% of the population and yet we felt the need to bend over for them to fight for our nation or get married to white folks.

Yeah actualy people are being bent over for these people. People are being forced to accomodate their needs. People are being forced to do business with them against their beliefs.
You just dont want to hear that or pretend it isnt' true.

 

[The Rabbi]

Ok so no real serious answer yet..

How are 2% a threat to society...feel free to leave out silly hyperbole

Why even bother to bring it up here, Plasma. The gay bashing usual suspects just have one more opportunity to preach their hate and bigotry. It is absoluetly nexecssary to their self esteem to have someone to look down upon.

because i found what LGS said to be amusing. How can these people get that up in arms over 2% of the population. I knew their answers before they even posted.

No, you didnt. You assumed their answers and then twisted or dismissed ones that deviated from your pre-arranged script.
IOW you acted like a total liberal.