$15 an Hour Minimum Wage?

[Devils_Advocate]

Maybe next time.

Senate votes down $15 minimum wage during vote-a-rama. Bernie Sanders seems unfazed. (yahoo.com)

" By a voice vote, for example, the senators approved an amendment from Sen. Joni Ernst (R-Iowa) to "prohibit the increase of the federal minimum wage during a global pandemic." Raising the minimum wage to $15 an hour is one of the heavy lifts in Biden's proposal. "

It’s been proven that a higher minimum wage is good for the economy and ultimately doesn’t hurt business (see Australia). The minimum wage hasn’t been raised in decades. It costs have.

The minimum wage hasn’t been raised in decades.

Decades?

When was the last time it was raised?

Last time a increase was passed was 2007 under Bush.

really?

Obama didn't raise it from $7.25 to $7.80 in 2009??

Federal minimum wage has been $7.25 an hour for a long time:

Federal Minimum Wage 2024 - Minimum-Wage.org

www.minimum-wage.org

Also those calling for the Federal hike should request their State to hike it instead but as usual they prefer big brother to do a National hike instead...

The vast majority of states have. As long as "big brother" is going to continue to bail out Wall Street I'm going to advocate for the other end.

Vast majority of states have not raised their minimum wage to fifteen dollars an hour, so let cut with the nonsense there...

Bite me. That isn't what was replied to.

No thank you and the fact is those like you make claims you will do this or that but then shift the field goal posts as usual...

 

[Auld Phart]

Maybe next time.

Senate votes down $15 minimum wage during vote-a-rama. Bernie Sanders seems unfazed. (yahoo.com)

" By a voice vote, for example, the senators approved an amendment from Sen. Joni Ernst (R-Iowa) to "prohibit the increase of the federal minimum wage during a global pandemic." Raising the minimum wage to $15 an hour is one of the heavy lifts in Biden's proposal. "

It’s been proven that a higher minimum wage is good for the economy and ultimately doesn’t hurt business (see Australia). The minimum wage hasn’t been raised in decades. It costs have.

The minimum wage hasn’t been raised in decades.

Decades?

When was the last time it was raised?

Last time a increase was passed was 2007 under Bush.

really?

Obama didn't raise it from $7.25 to $7.80 in 2009??

Federal minimum wage has been $7.25 an hour for a long time:

Federal Minimum Wage 2024 - Minimum-Wage.org

www.minimum-wage.org

Also those calling for the Federal hike should request their State to hike it instead but as usual they prefer big brother to do a National hike instead...

Well it seem a moderator has an issue with me pointing out the facts again and of course it is Me!Belle but she never offer to prove my comment to be incorrect and why?

Simple, the Federal minimum wage hike happened under Bush and not Obama but of course Trump voting base does not care about facts and live in a alternate reality as usual...

Simple, the Federal minimum wage hike happened under Bush and not Obama

Well, if pknopp is correct, and the 2009 wage hike was passed by Bush, before leaving office...

that pretty much means that during his 8 years in office, Obama can't be credited with raising the minimum wage even once.

But, for some reason, Trump is the devil incarnate for not raising it during his 4 years.

double standard?

Hypocrisy?



yup

 

[Devils_Advocate]

Maybe next time.

Senate votes down $15 minimum wage during vote-a-rama. Bernie Sanders seems unfazed. (yahoo.com)

" By a voice vote, for example, the senators approved an amendment from Sen. Joni Ernst (R-Iowa) to "prohibit the increase of the federal minimum wage during a global pandemic." Raising the minimum wage to $15 an hour is one of the heavy lifts in Biden's proposal. "

It’s been proven that a higher minimum wage is good for the economy and ultimately doesn’t hurt business (see Australia). The minimum wage hasn’t been raised in decades. It costs have.

The minimum wage hasn’t been raised in decades.

Decades?

When was the last time it was raised?

Last time a increase was passed was 2007 under Bush.

really?

Obama didn't raise it from $7.25 to $7.80 in 2009??

Federal minimum wage has been $7.25 an hour for a long time:

Federal Minimum Wage 2024 - Minimum-Wage.org

www.minimum-wage.org

Also those calling for the Federal hike should request their State to hike it instead but as usual they prefer big brother to do a National hike instead...

Well it seem a moderator has an issue with me pointing out the facts again and of course it is Me!Belle but she never offer to prove my comment to be incorrect and why?

Simple, the Federal minimum wage hike happened under Bush and not Obama but of course Trump voting base does not care about facts and live in a alternate reality as usual...

Simple, the Federal minimum wage hike happened under Bush and not Obama

Well, if pknopp is correct, and the 2009 wage hike was passed by Bush, before leaving office...

that pretty much means that during his 8 years in office, Obama can't be credited with raising the minimum wage even once.

But, for some reason, Trump is the devil incarnate for not raising it during his 4 years.

double standard?

Hypocrisy?



yup

Obama shouldn’t get credit and that is the fact... Also Trump is not the Devil, so stop insulting the Devil please!

 

[pknopp]

Maybe next time.

Senate votes down $15 minimum wage during vote-a-rama. Bernie Sanders seems unfazed. (yahoo.com)

" By a voice vote, for example, the senators approved an amendment from Sen. Joni Ernst (R-Iowa) to "prohibit the increase of the federal minimum wage during a global pandemic." Raising the minimum wage to $15 an hour is one of the heavy lifts in Biden's proposal. "

It’s been proven that a higher minimum wage is good for the economy and ultimately doesn’t hurt business (see Australia). The minimum wage hasn’t been raised in decades. It costs have.

The minimum wage hasn’t been raised in decades.

Decades?

When was the last time it was raised?

Last time a increase was passed was 2007 under Bush.

really?

Obama didn't raise it from $7.25 to $7.80 in 2009??

Federal minimum wage has been $7.25 an hour for a long time:

Federal Minimum Wage 2024 - Minimum-Wage.org

www.minimum-wage.org

Also those calling for the Federal hike should request their State to hike it instead but as usual they prefer big brother to do a National hike instead...

Well it seem a moderator has an issue with me pointing out the facts again and of course it is Me!Belle but she never offer to prove my comment to be incorrect and why?

Simple, the Federal minimum wage hike happened under Bush and not Obama but of course Trump voting base does not care about facts and live in a alternate reality as usual...

Simple, the Federal minimum wage hike happened under Bush and not Obama

Well, if pknopp is correct, and the 2009 wage hike was passed by Bush, before leaving office...

that pretty much means that during his 8 years in office, Obama can't be credited with raising the minimum wage even once.

But, for some reason, Trump is the devil incarnate for not raising it during his 4 years.

double standard?

Hypocrisy?



yup

They both suck.

 

[task0778]

Also those calling for the Federal hike should request their State to hike it instead but as usual they prefer big brother to do a National hike instead...

Minimum wage is a political issue, there's no economic advantage to raising the MW. Studies show the economy is not improved, as many or more people are hurt by the raise as are helped, and businesses that are already on the razor's edge of closing will do so because they cannot raise their prices accordingly.

The MW ought to be a state and local issue, for each to decide what is best for their workers and their economy.

 

[Devils_Advocate]

Maybe next time.

Senate votes down $15 minimum wage during vote-a-rama. Bernie Sanders seems unfazed. (yahoo.com)

" By a voice vote, for example, the senators approved an amendment from Sen. Joni Ernst (R-Iowa) to "prohibit the increase of the federal minimum wage during a global pandemic." Raising the minimum wage to $15 an hour is one of the heavy lifts in Biden's proposal. "

It’s been proven that a higher minimum wage is good for the economy and ultimately doesn’t hurt business (see Australia). The minimum wage hasn’t been raised in decades. It costs have.

The minimum wage hasn’t been raised in decades.

Decades?

When was the last time it was raised?

Last time a increase was passed was 2007 under Bush.

really?

Obama didn't raise it from $7.25 to $7.80 in 2009??

Federal minimum wage has been $7.25 an hour for a long time:

Federal Minimum Wage 2024 - Minimum-Wage.org

www.minimum-wage.org

Also those calling for the Federal hike should request their State to hike it instead but as usual they prefer big brother to do a National hike instead...

Well it seem a moderator has an issue with me pointing out the facts again and of course it is Me!Belle but she never offer to prove my comment to be incorrect and why?

Simple, the Federal minimum wage hike happened under Bush and not Obama but of course Trump voting base does not care about facts and live in a alternate reality as usual...

Simple, the Federal minimum wage hike happened under Bush and not Obama

Well, if pknopp is correct, and the 2009 wage hike was passed by Bush, before leaving office...

that pretty much means that during his 8 years in office, Obama can't be credited with raising the minimum wage even once.

But, for some reason, Trump is the devil incarnate for not raising it during his 4 years.

double standard?

Hypocrisy?



yup

Even Huff~n~ Puff states that it was Bush and never Obama and that Obama failed to keep his promise, but let be factual Obama failed many times but his bath tub water drinking lovers ignore this reality:

Obama Whiffs On Campaign Promise

Obama Whiffs On Campaign Promise

m.huffpost.com

 

[pknopp]

Also those calling for the Federal hike should request their State to hike it instead but as usual they prefer big brother to do a National hike instead...

Minimum wage is a political issue, there's no economic advantage to raising the MW. Studies show the economy is not improved, as many or more people are hurt by the raise as are helped, and businesses that are already on the razor's edge of closing will do so because they cannot raise their prices accordingly.

The MW ought to be a state and local issue, for each to decide what is best for their workers and their economy.

States can do whatever they want as long as it's not below the federal minimum wage.

 

[Devils_Advocate]

Also those calling for the Federal hike should request their State to hike it instead but as usual they prefer big brother to do a National hike instead...

Minimum wage is a political issue, there's no economic advantage to raising the MW. Studies show the economy is not improved, as many or more people are hurt by the raise as are helped, and businesses that are already on the razor's edge of closing will do so because they cannot raise their prices accordingly.

The MW ought to be a state and local issue, for each to decide what is best for their workers and their economy.

I believe that is what I am saying and the Federal Government blanket approach is bad for this country and should be a State to State issue...

 

[Devils_Advocate]

Also those calling for the Federal hike should request their State to hike it instead but as usual they prefer big brother to do a National hike instead...

Minimum wage is a political issue, there's no economic advantage to raising the MW. Studies show the economy is not improved, as many or more people are hurt by the raise as are helped, and businesses that are already on the razor's edge of closing will do so because they cannot raise their prices accordingly.

The MW ought to be a state and local issue, for each to decide what is best for their workers and their economy.

States can do whatever they want as long as it's not below the federal minimum wage.

Check Georgia laws and discover something...

 

[pknopp]

Also those calling for the Federal hike should request their State to hike it instead but as usual they prefer big brother to do a National hike instead...

Minimum wage is a political issue, there's no economic advantage to raising the MW. Studies show the economy is not improved, as many or more people are hurt by the raise as are helped, and businesses that are already on the razor's edge of closing will do so because they cannot raise their prices accordingly.

The MW ought to be a state and local issue, for each to decide what is best for their workers and their economy.

States can do whatever they want as long as it's not below the federal minimum wage.

Check Georgia laws and discover something...

If there was something to check, you would have posted it.

 

[task0778]

You know, it's funny - Bernie Sanders and many of the other dems on the far Left love to talk about Sweden and how great it is and how we should be like Sweden. But guess what? Sweden has no minimum wage. Neither does Norway, Denmark, Switzerland, Austria, and others. The federal gov't has no say at all.

 

[Devils_Advocate]

Also those calling for the Federal hike should request their State to hike it instead but as usual they prefer big brother to do a National hike instead...

Minimum wage is a political issue, there's no economic advantage to raising the MW. Studies show the economy is not improved, as many or more people are hurt by the raise as are helped, and businesses that are already on the razor's edge of closing will do so because they cannot raise their prices accordingly.

The MW ought to be a state and local issue, for each to decide what is best for their workers and their economy.

States can do whatever they want as long as it's not below the federal minimum wage.

Check Georgia laws and discover something...

If there was something to check, you would have posted it.

Oh, so are you calling me a liar?

Georgia Minimum Wage 2024 - Minimum-Wage.org

www.minimum-wage.org

Georgia has loopholes in it that allows to pay people lower in certain businesses and their age...

 

[pknopp]

Also those calling for the Federal hike should request their State to hike it instead but as usual they prefer big brother to do a National hike instead...

Minimum wage is a political issue, there's no economic advantage to raising the MW. Studies show the economy is not improved, as many or more people are hurt by the raise as are helped, and businesses that are already on the razor's edge of closing will do so because they cannot raise their prices accordingly.

The MW ought to be a state and local issue, for each to decide what is best for their workers and their economy.

States can do whatever they want as long as it's not below the federal minimum wage.

Check Georgia laws and discover something...

If there was something to check, you would have posted it.

Oh, so are you calling me a liar?

Georgia Minimum Wage 2024 - Minimum-Wage.org

www.minimum-wage.org

Georgia has loopholes in it that allows to pay people lower in certain businesses and their age...

Which is in the Federal law.

 

[MisterBeale]

I don't know why none of you are listening to me.

If we just stop all the money printing, we wouldn't be in this mess. But year after year, we do it, and it devalues the dollar, and thus, we need to have this conversation.


The government wants to devalue that dollar so that it can more easily pay off the deficit, but it robs the folks who save and invest, it is a tax on savings.

STOP THE MONEY PRINTING.

The MSM and corporate propaganda WANT to distract voters with talk of a minimum wage hike to paper over their failures in managing the economy.

What Causes Inflation?

What Causes Inflation? - dummies

When prices rise on average in an economy, it's called inflation . In the recent past in developed economies, inflation has only been a few percent per year, bu

www.dummies.com

". . .When inflation occurs, the domestic currency is losing value. The fact that a candy bar used to cost 10 cents in the early 1960s and now costs $1, is a way of saying that $1 used to buy ten bars but now only buys one. The dollar has lost value. Alternatively, you could say that in the early 1960s, you could get a dollar by giving up ten candy bars while today, you only need to give up one. That is, the candy bar price of getting a $1 bill has fallen tenfold. Either way, inflation means the domestic currency is becoming less valuable.

The good news is that there are really just two underlying causes of inflation. One is that the monetary authorities print too much money. Like anything else, when its supply becomes relatively abundant, money loses value.

The second cause is the expectations mechanism n. If everyone expects money to lose value, everyone will try to get rid of it quickly, and the easiest way to do this is to spend it. But this is just a game of hot potato. Dick buys something from Jane and gives her money. But Jane doesn’t want to hold money either, so Jane buys something from Tom. Now Tom tries to get rid of the money by buying from Harry, and so on. Before long, all these purchases start to make prices rise, justifying everyone’s initial fear.

The two causes are not unrelated. Jane, Tom, Dick, and Harry may all expect inflation because they expect rapid money growth. Yet the two forces are logically distinct. Hyperinflations usually start with lots of money growth but are typically made worse by the expectations factor."

 

[PoliticalChic]

You know, it's funny - Bernie Sanders and many of the other dems on the far Left love to talk about Sweden and how great it is and how we should be like Sweden. But guess what? Sweden has no minimum wage. Neither does Norway, Denmark, Switzerland, Austria, and others. The federal gov't has no say at all.

between 1870 and 1936, Sweden had the highest growth rate in the industrialized world.

Scandinavia’s hard-left turn didn’t come about until much later. It was in the late 1960s and early 1970s that taxes soared, welfare payments expanded, and entrepreneurship was discouraged.

But what emerged wasn’t heaven on earth.

That 1976 story in Time, for example, went on to report that Sweden found itself struggling with crime, drug addiction, welfare dependency, and a plague of red tape. Successful Swedes — most famously, Ingmar Bergman — were fleeing the country to avoid its killing taxes. “Growing numbers are plagued by a persistent, gnawing question: Is their Utopia going sour?”

Sweden’s world-beating growth rate dried up. In 1975, it had been the fourth-wealthiest nation on earth (as measured by GDP per capita); by 1993, it had dropped to 14th. By then, Swedes had begun to regard their experiment with socialism as, in Sanandaji’s phrase, “a colossal failure.”

Denmark has come to a similar conclusion. Its lavish subsidies are being rolled back amid sharp concerns about welfare abuse and an eroding work ethic. In the last general election, Danes replaced a left-leaning government with one tilted to the right. Loving Denmark doesn’t mean loving big-government welfarism.

The real key to Scandinavia’s unique successes isn’t socialism, it’s culture. Social trust and cohesion, a broad egalitarian ethic, a strong emphasis on work and responsibility, commitment to the rule of law — these are healthy attributes of a Nordic culture that was ingrained over centuries. In the region’s small and homogeneous countries (overwhelmingly white, Protestant, and native-born), those norms took deep root. The good outcomes and high living standards they produced antedated the socialist nostrums of the 1970s. Scandinavia’s quality of life didn’t spring from leftist policies. It survived them.

No, Bernie Sanders, Scandinavia is not a socialist utopia - The Boston Globe

The prosperity that Denmark, Sweden, and Norway enjoy today was built with free-market reforms in the past.

www.bostonglobe.com

 

[task0778]

The real key to Scandinavia’s unique successes isn’t socialism, it’s culture. Social trust and cohesion, a broad egalitarian ethic, a strong emphasis on work and responsibility, commitment to the rule of law — these are healthy attributes of a Nordic culture that was ingrained over centuries. In the region’s small and homogeneous countries (overwhelmingly white, Protestant, and native-born), those norms took deep root. The good outcomes and high living standards they produced antedated the socialist nostrums of the 1970s. Scandinavia’s quality of life didn’t spring from leftist policies. It survived them.

We in America do not have social trust and cohesion, thanks mainly to the democrats and their identity politics. And I do not see that changing anytime soon. Anybody here want to argue that the democrats place a strong emphasis on work and responsibility? And they have a commitment to the rule of law? HAH! IMHO their only commitment to the rule of law is when it's used against someone who disagrees with them. But one of theirs? No way in hell.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The real key to Scandinavia’s unique successes isn’t socialism, it’s culture. Social trust and cohesion, a broad egalitarian ethic, a strong emphasis on work and responsibility, commitment to the rule of law — these are healthy attributes of a Nordic culture that was ingrained over centuries. In the region’s small and homogeneous countries (overwhelmingly white, Protestant, and native-born), those norms took deep root. The good outcomes and high living standards they produced antedated the socialist nostrums of the 1970s. Scandinavia’s quality of life didn’t spring from leftist policies. It survived them.

We in America do not have social trust and cohesion, thanks mainly to the democrats and their identity politics. And I do see that changing anytime soon. Anybody here want to argue that the democrats place a strong emphasis on work and responsibility? And they have a commitment to the rule of law? HAH! IMHO their only commitment to the rule of law is when it's used against someone who disagrees with them. But one of theirs? No way in hell.

Proclaimed leader of the Democrat Party, AOC, advanced a plan to reward those who don't care to work.

 

[Claudette]

They don't call in the roaring 20's for nothing. It was a great decade with at POTUS who understood how to get out of a recession.

Um, wow. What fucking retarded Home School did you learn your history from?

They were called the "Roaring 20's" because frankly, a lot of the social mores broke down after WWI, Prohibition and due to the Depression. they had other names for it, such as "The Lost Generation", because those who survived WWI and the Spanish Flu had become largely fatalistic. Prohibition caused massive corruption, wiped out a whole sector of the economy, and caused rampant organized crime to spring up.

The 1920's kind of sucked, which is why you got FDR and the Republicans were sent to the Political Wilderness for a Generation.

No they were called the roaring twenties because things were roaring in the country. The economy was great and things were going very well for all Americans.

Coolidge was POTUS and he knew how to handle a recession and he did.

You need to study your history bozo.

 

[initforme]

Keep MW where it is and send out the stylus checks. ..done.

 

[candycorn]

Maybe next time.

Senate votes down $15 minimum wage during vote-a-rama. Bernie Sanders seems unfazed. (yahoo.com)

" By a voice vote, for example, the senators approved an amendment from Sen. Joni Ernst (R-Iowa) to "prohibit the increase of the federal minimum wage during a global pandemic." Raising the minimum wage to $15 an hour is one of the heavy lifts in Biden's proposal. "

29 States already have ratified a higher minimum wage than the FMW. It was an attempt to drag backwards red states kicking and screaming into the modern era. Republican leaders are betraying Republican voters. Will they pay a price? We'll see.