13 Countries with the least religious freedom

[immto]

The U.S. Religious freedom Commission recently released a list of the 13 countries with the least amount of religious freedom. The List included all 8 of the nations on the same list last year.


Those on the list include:

* Myanmar (Burma)
* China
* Eritrea
* Iran
* North Korea
* Saudi Arabia
* Sudan
* Uzbekistan
* Iraq
* Nigeria
* Pakistan
* Turkmenistan
* Vietnam

Funny how all of these Nations also have governments who are no friend to America and the American Way way of life. Possibly the most disturbing name on that list is Iraq, after all of the influence we have on that Nation we should think they would be more open to religious freedom, especially after the Saddam regime.
The panel did criticize the current and former administrations in Washington for doing far too little to make basic religious rights universal.

This should give us something to think about as we wonder the actions of our own government as we continue to lose more and more freedom every year. It doesn't really matter where you stand on matters of religion, the freedom of religion is one of the most basic rights. Without this right, no other freedom is truly attainable.

 

[bodecea]

The U.S. Religious freedom Commission recently released a list of the 13 countries with the least amount of religious freedom. The List included all 8 of the nations on the same list last year.


Those on the list include:

* Myanmar (Burma)
* China
* Eritrea
* Iran
* North Korea
* Saudi Arabia
* Sudan
* Uzbekistan
* Iraq
* Nigeria
* Pakistan
* Turkmenistan
* Vietnam

Funny how all of these Nations also have governments who are no friend to America and the American Way way of life. Possibly the most disturbing name on that list is Iraq, after all of the influence we have on that Nation we should think they would be more open to religious freedom, especially after the Saddam regime.
The panel did criticize the current and former administrations in Washington for doing far too little to make basic religious rights universal.

This should give us something to think about as we wonder the actions of our own government as we continue to lose more and more freedom every year. It doesn't really matter where you stand on matters of religion, the freedom of religion is one of the most basic rights. Without this right, no other freedom is truly attainable.

I thought Saudi Arabia was our friend and ally.

 

[Meister]

We have a problem with Sudan?

 

[Dr Gregg]

We have a problem with Sudan?

We most certainly should with their genocide

 

[Dr Gregg]

The U.S. Religious freedom Commission recently released a list of the 13 countries with the least amount of religious freedom. The List included all 8 of the nations on the same list last year.


Those on the list include:

* Myanmar (Burma)
* China
* Eritrea
* Iran
* North Korea
* Saudi Arabia
* Sudan
* Uzbekistan
* Iraq
* Nigeria
* Pakistan
* Turkmenistan
* Vietnam

Funny how all of these Nations also have governments who are no friend to America and the American Way way of life. Possibly the most disturbing name on that list is Iraq, after all of the influence we have on that Nation we should think they would be more open to religious freedom, especially after the Saddam regime.
The panel did criticize the current and former administrations in Washington for doing far too little to make basic religious rights universal.

This should give us something to think about as we wonder the actions of our own government as we continue to lose more and more freedom every year. It doesn't really matter where you stand on matters of religion, the freedom of religion is one of the most basic rights. Without this right, no other freedom is truly attainable.

I thought Saudi Arabia was our friend and ally.

Mutually beneficial business partner is more like it

 

[Meister]

We have a problem with Sudan?

We most certainly should with their genocide

I agree with you.....but I'm talking about our government.

 

[Coyote]

The U.S. Religious freedom Commission recently released a list of the 13 countries with the least amount of religious freedom. The List included all 8 of the nations on the same list last year.


Those on the list include:

* Myanmar (Burma)
* China
* Eritrea
* Iran
* North Korea
* Saudi Arabia
* Sudan
* Uzbekistan
* Iraq
* Nigeria
* Pakistan
* Turkmenistan
* Vietnam

Funny how all of these Nations also have governments who are no friend to America and the American Way way of life. Possibly the most disturbing name on that list is Iraq, after all of the influence we have on that Nation we should think they would be more open to religious freedom, especially after the Saddam regime.
The panel did criticize the current and former administrations in Washington for doing far too little to make basic religious rights universal.

This should give us something to think about as we wonder the actions of our own government as we continue to lose more and more freedom every year. It doesn't really matter where you stand on matters of religion, the freedom of religion is one of the most basic rights. Without this right, no other freedom is truly attainable.

Actually, this should give us something to think about when we start whining about "losing freedoms" we aren't really losing. Go to one of those countries and get a taste what it's really like.

 

[Cecilie1200]

We have a problem with Sudan?

If we don't, we ought to. Sudan Human Rights

 

[immto]

This should give us something to think about as we wonder the actions of our own government as we continue to lose more and more freedom every year. It doesn't really matter where you stand on matters of religion, the freedom of religion is one of the most basic rights. Without this right, no other freedom is truly attainable.[/quote]

Actually, this should give us something to think about when we start whining about "losing freedoms" we aren't really losing. Go to one of those countries and get a taste what it's really like.[/QUOTE]

Ok so you're one of those, don't whine because it could be much worse people. Freedom is not negotiable. We had to fight for it, and if we don't continue to fight for it, we'll lose it.

Those who expect to reap the benefits of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it.
– Thomas Paine

 

[Amanda]

Possibly the most disturbing name on that list is Iraq, after all of the influence we have on that Nation we should think they would be more open to religious freedom, especially after the Saddam regime.

Many Americans make this same fundamental error in thinking about Iraq.

They are not "just like us". Their culture is very different.

When Iraqis go through police training then turn around and sell their uniforms and weapons, and never report for duty they are NOT doing anything that is not in line with their culture.

This fundamental misunderstanding is why we can NOT win the "war" in Iraq.

All of this goes back to American arrogance in how we view the world.

 

[Conspiracist]

Possibly the most disturbing name on that list is Iraq, after all of the influence we have on that Nation we should think they would be more open to religious freedom, especially after the Saddam regime.

Many Americans make this same fundamental error in thinking about Iraq.

They are not "just like us". Their culture is very different.

When Iraqis go through police training then turn around and sell their uniforms and weapons, and never report for duty they are NOT doing anything that is not in line with their culture.

This fundamental misunderstanding is why we can NOT win the "war" in Iraq.

All of this goes back to American arrogance in how we view the world.

I totally agree with you on this. Changing their way of life to reflect ours is really a horrible no win agenda. The Muslim religion does not allow for it to begin with and anti American sentiment is another brick wall. If Obama were to pull us out of there now with no reason given I would support him. I know many disagree with this but, this worldly hero role we put ourselves in is destroying us. We would do the world more help by leading by example and helping during catastrophe rather than policing and fingerpointing.

 

[dab11999]

Public service is not a term you hear from government any more. It's all about domination. But domination only has one outcome; rebellion. In a state of military law, freedom loses it's meaning and liberty is the will of the people.
With that in mind, define democracy.
Capitalism can not thrive under those conditions. It can only thrive in a free trade environment. Religion can not be tolerated. The government can not accept a higher authority. It's greatest weapon is fear.

At this point, I would like to point out that what one focuses on, becomes ones reality. What other outcome is possible in a global environment where the government is run by the banking system because of it's debt obligation?


Loading up the nation with debt and leaving it for following generations to pay is morally irresponsible . To preserve independence, we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. -Thomas Jefferson

 

[Father Time]

The U.S. Religious freedom Commission recently released a list of the 13 countries with the least amount of religious freedom. The List included all 8 of the nations on the same list last year.


Those on the list include:

* Myanmar (Burma)
* China
* Eritrea
* Iran
* North Korea
* Saudi Arabia
* Sudan
* Uzbekistan
* Iraq
* Nigeria
* Pakistan
* Turkmenistan
* Vietnam

Funny how all of these Nations also have governments who are no friend to America and the American Way way of life. Possibly the most disturbing name on that list is Iraq, after all of the influence we have on that Nation we should think they would be more open to religious freedom, especially after the Saddam regime.
The panel did criticize the current and former administrations in Washington for doing far too little to make basic religious rights universal.

This should give us something to think about as we wonder the actions of our own government as we continue to lose more and more freedom every year. It doesn't really matter where you stand on matters of religion, the freedom of religion is one of the most basic rights. Without this right, no other freedom is truly attainable.

Actually, this should give us something to think about when we start whining about "losing freedoms" we aren't really losing. Go to one of those countries and get a taste what it's really like.

Just because others have it worse doesn't mean we aren't getting shafted in some way.

"Other people have it worse" is a stupid excuse to put up with well anything really.

 

[Coyote]

This should give us something to think about as we wonder the actions of our own government as we continue to lose more and more freedom every year.

It doesn't really matter where you stand on matters of religion, the freedom of religion is one of the most basic rights. Without this right, no other freedom is truly attainable.

Actually, this should give us something to think about when we start whining about "losing freedoms" we aren't really losing. Go to one of those countries and get a taste what it's really like.

Ok so you're one of those, don't whine because it could be much worse people.

Nope. I'm not whining at all. I am simply stating reality and pointing out your logical fallacy...the chicken little syndrome. They sky is NOT falling. It's fallacious to make a comparision of the considerable freedom's we have and nominal strictures on them to those countries who have no history of democratic freedom or human rights to begin with.

Freedom is not negotiable. We had to fight for it, and if we don't continue to fight for it, we'll lose it.

Those who expect to reap the benefits of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it.
– Thomas Paine

And exactly what "freedoms" are you losing that you "need" to fight for?

 

[Coyote]

The U.S. Religious freedom Commission recently released a list of the 13 countries with the least amount of religious freedom. The List included all 8 of the nations on the same list last year.


Those on the list include:

* Myanmar (Burma)
* China
* Eritrea
* Iran
* North Korea
* Saudi Arabia
* Sudan
* Uzbekistan
* Iraq
* Nigeria
* Pakistan
* Turkmenistan
* Vietnam

Funny how all of these Nations also have governments who are no friend to America and the American Way way of life. Possibly the most disturbing name on that list is Iraq, after all of the influence we have on that Nation we should think they would be more open to religious freedom, especially after the Saddam regime.
The panel did criticize the current and former administrations in Washington for doing far too little to make basic religious rights universal.

This should give us something to think about as we wonder the actions of our own government as we continue to lose more and more freedom every year. It doesn't really matter where you stand on matters of religion, the freedom of religion is one of the most basic rights. Without this right, no other freedom is truly attainable.

Actually, this should give us something to think about when we start whining about "losing freedoms" we aren't really losing. Go to one of those countries and get a taste what it's really like.

Just because others have it worse doesn't mean we aren't getting shafted in some way.

"Other people have it worse" is a stupid excuse to put up with well anything really.

So exactly WHAT religious freedoms are we losing?

 

[Father Time]

I don't know but if we start to lose freedom saying "well at least we're not [insert country here]" is a stupid way to go about it.

Once again saying "you should be content because other people have it worse" is to me a non-argument.

 

[Coyote]

I don't know but if we start to lose freedom saying "well at least we're not [insert country here]" is a stupid way to go about it.

Once again saying "you should be content because other people have it worse" is to me a non-argument.

That is not the argument I'm making.

People whine about "losing" religious freedom, and then make fallacious comparisons to extremist countries. I'd like to know exactly what religious "freedoms" we are losing.

 

[jillian]

Ok so you're one of those, don't whine because it could be much worse people. Freedom is not negotiable. We had to fight for it, and if we don't continue to fight for it, we'll lose it.

Those who expect to reap the benefits of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it.
– Thomas Paine

what "freedoms" are we fighting for now?

the right to eat as much unhealthy garbage was you want?

 

[Father Time]

Ok so you're one of those, don't whine because it could be much worse people. Freedom is not negotiable. We had to fight for it, and if we don't continue to fight for it, we'll lose it.

Those who expect to reap the benefits of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it.
– Thomas Paine

what "freedoms" are we fighting for now?

the right to eat as much unhealthy garbage was you want?

I'd say that's worth fighting for.

They'll take away my $6 burger when they pry it from my cold dead, oh wait never mind I finished it.

 

[GHook93]

No Israel? Your going to make Kalam, Shogun and PF Titmore very mad! And its interesting countries where 98-99% of the population is one sec of a Religion, like Libya is not on the list. I guess too few outsiders to oppress!

The U.S. Religious freedom Commission recently released a list of the 13 countries with the least amount of religious freedom. The List included all 8 of the nations on the same list last year.


Those on the list include:

* Myanmar (Burma)
* China
* Eritrea
* Iran
* North Korea
* Saudi Arabia
* Sudan
* Uzbekistan
* Iraq
* Nigeria
* Pakistan
* Turkmenistan
* Vietnam

Funny how all of these Nations also have governments who are no friend to America and the American Way way of life. Possibly the most disturbing name on that list is Iraq, after all of the influence we have on that Nation we should think they would be more open to religious freedom, especially after the Saddam regime.
The panel did criticize the current and former administrations in Washington for doing far too little to make basic religious rights universal.

This should give us something to think about as we wonder the actions of our own government as we continue to lose more and more freedom every year. It doesn't really matter where you stand on matters of religion, the freedom of religion is one of the most basic rights. Without this right, no other freedom is truly attainable.