“You don’t live here anymore. You left. What are you doing here?”

[surada]

Kind of like Arabs did to Jews that had been living among them for thousands of years? In those cases they completely wiped Jewish existence and heritage from their lands.

Jewish exodus from the Muslim world​

In the 20th century, approximately 900,000 Jews migrated, fled, or were expelled from Muslim-majority countries throughout Africa and Asia. Primarily a consequence of the Israeli Declaration of Independence, the mass movement mainly transpired from 1948 to the early 1970s, with one final exodus of Iranian Jews occurring shortly after the Islamic Revolution in 1979–1980. An estimated 650,000 (72%) of these Jews resettled in Israel.[1]

A number of small-scale Jewish migrations began in many countries of the Middle East in the early 20th century, with the only substantial aliyah (Jewish immigration to the Land of Israel) coming from Yemen and Syria.[2] Few Jews from Muslim countries immigrated during the existence of the British Mandate for Palestine.[3] Prior to Israel's independence in 1948, approximately 800,000 Jews were living in lands that now make up the Arab world. Of this figure, just under two-thirds lived in the French- and Italian-controlled regions of North Africa, 15–20% lived in the Kingdom of Iraq, approximately 10% lived in the Kingdom of Egypt, and approximately 7% lived in the Kingdom of Yemen. A further 200,000 Jews lived in the Imperial State of Iran and the Republic of Turkey.

The first large-scale exoduses took place in the late 1940s and early 1950s, primarily from Iraq, Yemen, and Libya. In these cases, over 90% of the Jewish population left, despite the necessity of leaving their assets and properties behind.[4] Between 1948 and 1951, 260,000 Jews immigrated to Israel from Arab countries.[5] In response, the Israeli government implemented policies to accommodate 600,000 immigrants over a period of four years, doubling the country's Jewish population.[6] This move encountered mixed reactions in the Knesset; in addition to some Israeli officials, there were those within the Jewish Agency who opposed promoting a large-scale emigration movement among Jews whose lives were not in immediate danger.[6]

Later waves peaked at different times in different regions over the subsequent decades. The peak of the exodus from Egypt occurred in 1956, following the Suez Crisis. The emigrations from the other countries of North Africa peaked in the 1960s. Lebanon was the only Arab country that saw an increase in its Jewish population during this period, due to an influx of Jews from other Arab countries, though this was temporary—by the mid-1970s, the Jewish community of Lebanon had also dwindled. 600,000 Jews from Arab and Muslim countries had relocated to Israel by 1972,[7][8][9][10] while another 300,000 migrated to France and the United States. Today, the descendants of Jews who immigrated to Israel from other Middle Eastern lands (known as Mizrahi Jews and Sephardic Jews) constitute more than half of the total Israeli population.[11] This is due in part to their higher fertility rate, particularly vis-à-vis the country's Ashkenazi Jews.[12] In 2009, only 26,000 Jews remained in Arab countries and Iran,[13] as well as another 26,000 in Turkey.[14] By 2019, the total number of Jews in Arab countries and Iran had declined to 12,700,[15] and in Turkey to 14,800.[16]

You have to thank European Zionists for that.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

no dante .....im asking why those countries dont take them in.....

Why would you want other nations to take in Palestinians who live in the West Bank?

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

You have to thank European Zionists for that.

Not a fan of Noam, but this is funny

 

[Augustine_]

Who is killing for the Bible lately?

Putin claimed his invasion of Ukraine was in the name of defending christendom. The U.S., due to unconditional support of Israel from Christians, is providing weaponry for the slaughter in Gaza and preventing anybody from coming to their aid. The invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan, which later led to the war against ISIS, were driven by support from the Christian religious right. For the Tanakh, of course, Israel has been ethnically cleansing a land in the name of their magic book for over a century.

Genocide and murder are core elements of religion. To deny that is to deny history.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Who is killing for the Bible lately?

Settlers?

 

[surada]

no dante .....im asking why those countries dont take them in.....

Because they aren't Saudis or Egyptians. Palestine is their ancestral home. All Arab countries are not alike.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Because they aren't Saudis or Egyptians. Palestine is their ancestral home. All Arab countries are not alike.

And all North African countries are not filled with Arabs or Muslims.

 

[Shusha]

This is about the Settlers and Israeli policy in the West Bank.

Almost no one having an opinion on this understands the legal and political complexity of situation the territory in question. Some base facts to get started:

1. There is no legal or political territory called the "West Bank". It is a generalized geographical catchphrase that has come into common use, but it is meaningless in discussion as it carries no more force than that of Judea and Samaria. The legal and political territories in question are Areas A, B, and C.

2. Area C, which is the specific territory we are discussing in Khirbet Zanuta, is under full Israeli control by TREATY (which holds the highest level of legal force - if you sign a contract, you are required to uphold that contract).

3. There are no Israelis living in Areas A and B, under Palestinian Authority civil control. There is no law preventing Israelis from living in Area C, thus there are no Israeli "illegal settlements". They do not exist. Existing Israeli residential areas have expanded in Area C by about 4% in the past 30 years or so.

4. There ARE Palestinians Arabs living in Area C. There ARE laws preventing people (Israelis and Palestinians both) in Area C from construction or building without approval of civil authorities, planning departments, building permits, safety regulations, etc. As such, SOME Israeli homes and villages, and SOME Palestinian homes and villages are illegal in Area C. Palestinian residential areas have overtaken 25% of Area C in the past 30 years. There is also considerable expansion from Area B into Area C. Further, many of those residential areas are deliberately designed to interfere maximally with Israeli civil control, such as enclosing Israeli towns, building across highways, creating environmental problems, etc. And, in addition to all that, some European countries are illegally funding and building, especially schools, in Area C - a blatant violation of Israeli sovereignty in territory which - by treaty - is under Israeli control. Palestinians then use those illegally built schools to claim "humanitarian cause" not dismantle the illegally built schools and build a new village around the school where none existed before.

5. Land ownership is extremely (!) complicated in Area C, as it is a combination of leftover laws from the Ottoman Empire, the Jordanian occupation, and Israeli civil and military law. Because of this, it is difficult and time-consuming to sort the legal from illegal.

6. All violence committed by Israelis on Palestinian Arabs should be harshly condemned. All violence committed by Palestinian Arabs on Israelis should be harshly condemned.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You have to thank European Zionists for that.

Yeah, they get evil muslims to do all sorts of bad things.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Putin claimed his invasion of Ukraine was in the name of defending christendom. The U.S., due to unconditional support of Israel from Christians, is providing weaponry for the slaughter in Gaza and preventing anybody from coming to their aid. The invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan, which later led to the war against ISIS, were driven by support from the Christian religious right. For the Tanakh, of course, Israel has been ethnically cleansing a land in the name of their magic book for over a century.

Genocide and murder are core elements of religion. To deny that is to deny history.

Putin claimed his invasion of Ukraine was in the name of defending Christendom.

Do you believe him?

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Almost no one having an opinion on this understands the legal and political complexity of situation the territory in question. Some base facts to get started:

1. There is no legal or political territory called the "West Bank".

Okay.

West Bank and Gaza - United States Department of State

www.state.gov

Even Wikipedia entries make you out to be trolling here.

The Palestinian Authority

The Palestinian Authority currently administers some 39% of the West Bank. 61% of the West Bank remains under direct Israeli military and civilian control. East Jerusalem was unilaterally annexed by Israel in 1980, prior to the formation of the PA. Since 2007 Gaza has been governed by the Hamas Government in Gaza.

 

[Shusha]

Okay.

West Bank and Gaza - United States Department of State

www.state.gov

Even Wikipedia entries make you out to be trolling here.

The Palestinian Authority

The Palestinian Authority currently administers some 39% of the West Bank. 61% of the West Bank remains under direct Israeli military and civilian control. East Jerusalem was unilaterally annexed by Israel in 1980, prior to the formation of the PA. Since 2007 Gaza has been governed by the Hamas Government in Gaza.

Yes, I am well aware that this terminology is in common usage. This designation is not a legal one.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Yes, I am well aware that this terminology is in common usage. This designation is not a legal one.

I won't feed your hatred.

bye

 

[iamwhatiseem]

so why wont they take them in?.....why not Saudi Arabia,they got lots of land?.....

Egypt - "Fuck you Paletinians!! Get out of Egypt NOW!! - Leftist... who cares.
Iran - "Let's use Palestinians as pawns and shield to terrorize Israel" - Leftist... who cares
Jordan - "Screw you guys... you can't own property here" - Leftist... who cares
Syria - "Stay down there... not welcome: - Leftist,,, who cares

Israel - only nation that allows them to live in their cities, but won't tolerate them being violent - Leftist... OMG!!! MURDERERS!!! KILLERS!!! LET"S KILL ALL JEWS!!!!!!!!!

 

[Shusha]

All Dante has done is ask a few questions wondering where people stand, and why. You don't appear to be a very serious person on this subject. Go away.

I won't feed your hatred.

bye

Well, that little costume fell of rather quickly!

"I would like to talk to a very serious person about this aspect of the conflict, but if they use correct, legal terminology to explain the details, well, then, they are full of hate".

Seriously?

 

[Augustine_]

Putin claimed his invasion of Ukraine was in the name of defending Christendom.

Do you believe him?

I believe he's using religion for it's main purpose; to manipulate people into submitting to the will of those in authority.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Egypt - "Fuck you Paletinians!! Get out of Egypt NOW!! - Leftist... who cares.
Iran - "Let's use Palestinians as pawns and shield to terrorize Israel" - Leftist... who cares
Jordan - "Screw you guys... you can't own property here" - Leftist... who cares
Syria - "Stay down there... not welcome: - Leftist,,, who cares

Israel - only nation that allows them to live in their cities, but won't tolerate them being violent - Leftist... OMG!!! MURDERERS!!! KILLERS!!! LET"S KILL ALL JEWS!!!!!!!!!

The administration supports Israel. I wish Mr. MAGA did.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I believe he's using religion for it's main purpose; to manipulate people into submitting to the will of those in authority.

He's pretending to use the Bible to kill people.

Not the same as the Koran.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The administration supports Israel. I wish Mr. MAGA did.

The guy who moved the US embassy to Jerusalem
and supported the Abraham Accords doesn't support Israel?

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Well, that little costume fell of rather quickly!

"I would like to talk to a very serious person about this aspect of the conflict, but if they use correct, legal terminology to explain the details, well, then, they are full of hate".

Seriously?

look at yourself and wonder -- if the costume fits..

.go hijack another thread, hater

Dante has no agenda. Not taking sides on Mamas conflict with Israel over the gaza strip. It's about the West Bank. Playing games in order to marginalize a whole population there is hateful. I am not attacking Israel and supporting terrorism.