WTF??!! WMD's after all!!!!

[Mojo2]

Sarin gas -Within seconds, your muscles become paralyzed, so you cannot breathe. Then come intense vomiting and likely seizures. The heart stops beating.


That is only your opinion, joe, not the international communities opinion, though, thus why they are considered wmd.

Ignoring your torture porn- as a tactical weapon, chemical munitions aren't very useful, which is why no one used them much after WWI.

Yeah, if you bombard a civilian population iwth them for days and they don't have protective gear, it kind of sucks.

But we didn't go to war because of shit that happened 20 years earlier, and we didn't go to war over expired Sarin.

We went to war because Saddam had a nuke, and he was going to get us!!!!

We went to war because Saddam had a nuke, and he was going to get us!!!!

Should be, "Israel".

 

[Mojo2]

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Bush saved us from the war Obama is trying to start.

Obama wouldn't have to fight a war if Bush hadn't fucked up and deposed Saddam.

There's always some poor dumb bastard who fails to read the memo.

The news came out just this week...they found the WMD's.

They'd found them early on after the libs had already declared there weren't any and that W had lied.

Well, he didn't lie. He just didn't bother to defend the truth, which was that they found lots of WMD's! But W decided not to publicize it on the belief that it would help nothing to try to defend the administration which was already hated by the left so they figured "why bother setting the record straight?"

They found not a single WMD! They found Ws that lacked any MD. Not only did the Ws lack any MD, they lacked any D!!!!!. That's right, some of the Ws went off or leaked as they were being transported and NO ONE DIED!!!!!!!

Are up to date on your info?

The news was just released this week that says you are wrong.

 

[edthecynic]

Why would you think we would find nuclear war heads? It was stated by Bush he was seeking nuclear weapons- not that he had them, and 550 tons of yellowcake (uranium)were removed from Iraq. He stated we know they have chemical weapons and biological weapons, which all the allies and even those not, agreed with, from all their combined intelligence. Was some intelligence faulty? Yes? Was some correct? Yes. Were some weapons moved out if Iraq before we hit them to Syria? Very likely, as Assad has used some very recently.
You have been blaming Bush for your lack of attention to what was said, and more than likely, listening to the left media crying out nothing was found and Bush lied, when indeed wmd was found.
And the definition of wmd's is-
Weapon of mass destruction

A weapon of mass destruction (WMD or WoMD) is a nuclear, radiological, biological, chemical or other weapon that can kill and bring significant harm to a large number of humans or cause great damage to man-made structures (e.g. buildings), natural structures (e.g. mountains), or the biosphere.

And the Ws they found couldn't kill a fly!

And Yellowcake isn't even useful for a dirty bomb!

 

[edthecynic]

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Bush saved us from the war Obama is trying to start.

Obama wouldn't have to fight a war if Bush hadn't fucked up and deposed Saddam.

There's always some poor dumb bastard who fails to read the memo.

The news came out just this week...they found the WMD's.

They'd found them early on after the libs had already declared there weren't any and that W had lied.

Well, he didn't lie. He just didn't bother to defend the truth, which was that they found lots of WMD's! But W decided not to publicize it on the belief that it would help nothing to try to defend the administration which was already hated by the left so they figured "why bother setting the record straight?"

They found not a single WMD! They found Ws that lacked any MD. Not only did the Ws lack any MD, they lacked any D!!!!!. That's right, some of the Ws went off or leaked as they were being transported and NO ONE DIED!!!!!!!

Are up to date on your info?

The news was just released this week that says you are wrong.

There was no news any week of anyone DYING from the crap that was found in Iraq after we invaded.

 

[depotoo]

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Bush saved us from the war Obama is trying to start.

Obama wouldn't have to fight a war if Bush hadn't fucked up and deposed Saddam.

There's always some poor dumb bastard who fails to read the memo.

The news came out just this week...they found the WMD's.

They'd found them early on after the libs had already declared there weren't any and that W had lied.

Well, he didn't lie. He just didn't bother to defend the truth, which was that they found lots of WMD's! But W decided not to publicize it on the belief that it would help nothing to try to defend the administration which was already hated by the left so they figured "why bother setting the record straight?"

They found not a single WMD! They found Ws that lacked any MD. Not only did the Ws lack any MD, they lacked any D!!!!!. That's right, some of the Ws went off or leaked as they were being transported and NO ONE DIED!!!!!!!

Ed you really are blind d,you know that?

 

[JoeB131]

You are just trying to use bluster to avoid the comparison to Eboma, who you KNOW never did anything like this for anyone.

Hell, he let a US Ambassador die just to preserve a re-election campaign lie to us.

You are a foreigner who wants America to suffer.

Anyone who loves America would have a different way of posting than you.

I'm still trying to figure out how letting Ambassador Stevens die of smoke inhalation helped his campaign, exactly.

Oh, I know. He knew if he let the guy die, Mitt Romney would not be able to resist the urge to jump up on the man's coffin and use it as a soap box, thereby getting slapped down hard by the media when he did it.

Man, Obama is really fucking devious.

 

[JoeB131]

There's always some poor dumb bastard who fails to read the memo.

The news came out just this week...they found the WMD's.

They'd found them early on after the libs had already declared there weren't any and that W had lied.

Well, he didn't lie. He just didn't bother to defend the truth, which was that they found lots of WMD's! But W decided not to publicize it on the belief that it would help nothing to try to defend the administration which was already hated by the left so they figured "why bother setting the record straight?"

Not that you are capable of education, but here's the thing.

Do you know who squelched the news of the Inert Chemical Weapons being found? It was your boy, Karl Rove.

Insiders Blame Rove for Covering Up Iraq s Real WMD - The Daily Beast

Starting in 2004, some members of the George W. Bush administration and Republican lawmakers began to find evidence of discarded chemical weapons in Iraq. But when the information was brought up with the White House, senior adviser Karl Rove told them to “let these sleeping dogs lie.”

...
In an interview with The Daily Beast, Santorum said he and his staff began receiving photographs of discarded sarin and mustard-gas shells from U.S. soldiers in 2004. Two years later, when he was up for re-election, Santorum even went public with some of this information in a press conference disclosing a Pentagon report that found 500 chemical-weapons shells had been found in Iraq.

One might think a politically vulnerable Bush White House would’ve seized on Santorum’s discovery. After all, Bush and his subordinates famously accused Iraq of having active weapons of mass destruction programs.

But at least in 2005 and 2006, the Bush White House wasn’t interested. “We don’t want to look back,” Santorum recalled Rove as saying (though Santorum stressed he was not quoting verbatim conversations he had more than eight years ago). “I will say that the gist of the comments from the president’s senior people was ‘We don’t want to look back, we want to look forward.’”

 

[Judicial review]

Quite the semantics. Bush's general point remains. There were WMD in Iraq. End of story not up for debate. Are you one of those people that rationalize everything instead of answering a simple yes or no question with a yes or no?

 

[Iceweasel]

And the Ws they found couldn't kill a fly!

...and the soldiers were treated for what then? What a Bozo.

 

[JoeB131]

Quite the semantics. Bush's general point remains. There were WMD in Iraq. End of story not up for debate. Are you one of those people that rationalize everything instead of answering a simple yes or no question with a yes or no?

Well, no, it's totally up for debate, because Bush didn't say "expired canisters of chemical weapons they lack the capability to deploy", he said "Smoking gun" and "Mushroom Cloud".

 

[Mojo2]

There's always some poor dumb bastard who fails to read the memo.

The news came out just this week...they found the WMD's.

They'd found them early on after the libs had already declared there weren't any and that W had lied.

Well, he didn't lie. He just didn't bother to defend the truth, which was that they found lots of WMD's! But W decided not to publicize it on the belief that it would help nothing to try to defend the administration which was already hated by the left so they figured "why bother setting the record straight?"

Not that you are capable of education, but here's the thing.

Do you know who squelched the news of the Inert Chemical Weapons being found? It was your boy, Karl Rove.

Insiders Blame Rove for Covering Up Iraq s Real WMD - The Daily Beast

Starting in 2004, some members of the George W. Bush administration and Republican lawmakers began to find evidence of discarded chemical weapons in Iraq. But when the information was brought up with the White House, senior adviser Karl Rove told them to “let these sleeping dogs lie.”

...
In an interview with The Daily Beast, Santorum said he and his staff began receiving photographs of discarded sarin and mustard-gas shells from U.S. soldiers in 2004. Two years later, when he was up for re-election, Santorum even went public with some of this information in a press conference disclosing a Pentagon report that found 500 chemical-weapons shells had been found in Iraq.

One might think a politically vulnerable Bush White House would’ve seized on Santorum’s discovery. After all, Bush and his subordinates famously accused Iraq of having active weapons of mass destruction programs.

But at least in 2005 and 2006, the Bush White House wasn’t interested. “We don’t want to look back,” Santorum recalled Rove as saying (though Santorum stressed he was not quoting verbatim conversations he had more than eight years ago). “I will say that the gist of the comments from the president’s senior people was ‘We don’t want to look back, we want to look forward.’”

Just because YOU, and those of your ilk, would seemingly, one infers from your post, and automatically support and defend a member of your Party who was convicted of breaking the law or did something which was otherwise inexcusable doesn't mean that we would!!!

Here's a news flash for you.

You Libs are hardwired differently than the typical Conservative.

Conservatives are hardwired to think logically to assess a situation and then decide what to do.

Libs are hardwired to react to things impulsively and as a result of having their emotions engaged, their hot buttons pushed.

Conservatives believe in the old adage, do the crime, do the time. If someone acts illegally or disreputably they deserve censure and maybe worse.

However, the prisons are filled with Liberals.

Without knowing the particulars of the situation I will neither automatically defend him nor throw Karl Rove under the bus.

It is telling, though, that you would just assume we would do what you guys do.

If Rove did wrong he deserves whatever he gets.

If he made a bad call, well that's a matter of, "pot meet kettle".

 

[JoeB131]

Just because YOU, and those of your ilk, would seemingly, one infers from your post, and automatically support and defend a member of your Party who was convicted of breaking the law or did something which was otherwise inexcusable is one thing.

Conservatives believe in the old adage, do the crime, do the time. If someone acts illegally or disreputably they deserve censure and maybe worse.

But without knowing the particulars of the situation I won't automatically defend or throw Rove under the bus.

It is telling that you would just assume we would do what you guys do.

Here's a news flash for you.

You are hardwired differently than the typical Conservative.

Conservatives are hardwired to think logically to assess a situation and then decide what to do.

Libs are hardwired to react to things impulsively and as a result of having their hot buttons pushed.

If Rove did wrong he deserves whatever he gets.

If he made a bad call, well that's a matter of, "pot meet kettle".

The thing was, Rove did wrong, and he didn't get what he deserved.

And as I said, I was a right winger for years, until my Romney Loving Boss showed me the True Meaning of Christmas.

That's when I stopped letting myself get distracted by the Terrorist under my Bed and the contents of medical waste containers and realized who my real enemies were.

Rove and Bush were happy to throw Santorum and the rest of the GOP under the bus on this issue, because they didn't want to talk about this issue anymore.

Because they knew they had made Saddam out to be a Rottweiler and he turned out to be a Chihauhua instead.

 

[Mojo2]

Quite the semantics. Bush's general point remains. There were WMD in Iraq. End of story not up for debate. Are you one of those people that rationalize everything instead of answering a simple yes or no question with a yes or no?

Well, no, it's totally up for debate, because Bush didn't say "expired canisters of chemical weapons they lack the capability to deploy", he said "Smoking gun" and "Mushroom Cloud".

If he didn't have an accurate accounting until after they'd been found in 2005 or later how could you expect him to tell us exactly what would be found?

He suspected wmds and he was right. That is all that matters, sonny boy.

 

[Mojo2]

Just because YOU, and those of your ilk, would seemingly, one infers from your post, and automatically support and defend a member of your Party who was convicted of breaking the law or did something which was otherwise inexcusable is one thing.

Conservatives believe in the old adage, do the crime, do the time. If someone acts illegally or disreputably they deserve censure and maybe worse.

But without knowing the particulars of the situation I won't automatically defend or throw Rove under the bus.

It is telling that you would just assume we would do what you guys do.

Here's a news flash for you.

You are hardwired differently than the typical Conservative.

Conservatives are hardwired to think logically to assess a situation and then decide what to do.

Libs are hardwired to react to things impulsively and as a result of having their hot buttons pushed.

If Rove did wrong he deserves whatever he gets.

If he made a bad call, well that's a matter of, "pot meet kettle".

The thing was, Rove did wrong, and he didn't get what he deserved.

And as I said, I was a right winger for years, until my Romney Loving Boss showed me the True Meaning of Christmas.

That's when I stopped letting myself get distracted by the Terrorist under my Bed and the contents of medical waste containers and realized who my real enemies were.

Rove and Bush were happy to throw Santorum and the rest of the GOP under the bus on this issue, because they didn't want to talk about this issue anymore.

Because they knew they had made Saddam out to be a Rottweiler and he turned out to be a Chihauhua instead.

Not so fast, Junior.

Saddam led the Iranians into staying on their side of their border with the fear he had wmds.

Was he bluffing or was he alluding to those wmd's we learned of this week?

You are wrong about what the situation was at the time.

Iran, Saddam's mortal enemy, stayed put.

Why?

 

[Mojo2]

You are just trying to use bluster to avoid the comparison to Eboma, who you KNOW never did anything like this for anyone.

Hell, he let a US Ambassador die just to preserve a re-election campaign lie to us.

You are a foreigner who wants America to suffer.

Anyone who loves America would have a different way of posting than you.

I'm still trying to figure out how letting Ambassador Stevens die of smoke inhalation helped his campaign, exactly.

Oh, I know. He knew if he let the guy die, Mitt Romney would not be able to resist the urge to jump up on the man's coffin and use it as a soap box, thereby getting slapped down hard by the media when he did it.

Man, Obama is really fucking devious.

Obama's campaign slogan was a lie and he knew it!

"Osama's Dead, GM is Alive and al Qaeda is on the run."

But he had to preserve the slogan's credibility because it was a sort of barometer of his reelection chances.

As long as it remained true or the American voters BELIEVED it was true he would get four more years...

...but, at the direct and intentional loss of 4 American lives. One an Ambassador.

He didn't want the Romney campaign to humiliate him and discredit the slogan by pointing out with the illegal arms deal in Benghazi and 4 Americans killed, one of them an Ambassador, who was it who did that but al Qaeda?

Obama lied and 4 died to preserve his campaign's credibility.

Fucking disgraceful.

Obama wanted to avoid this reaction before the election.

He wanted to preserve his lie so he could finish the job of dismantling America and bringing her down a few pegs.

So he tried to sweep this under the rug and conceal it from the American people.

 

[depotoo]

They are lying when they say it was squelched. The info was out there for those willing to pay attention.
Now, joe, first you said it isn't anything, now you say Rove squelched it, so which is it? You, as usual run with what you are fed, not even knowing what you are talking about.

There's always some poor dumb bastard who fails to read the memo.

The news came out just this week...they found the WMD's.

They'd found them early on after the libs had already declared there weren't any and that W had lied.

Well, he didn't lie. He just didn't bother to defend the truth, which was that they found lots of WMD's! But W decided not to publicize it on the belief that it would help nothing to try to defend the administration which was already hated by the left so they figured "why bother setting the record straight?"

Not that you are capable of education, but here's the thing.

Do you know who squelched the news of the Inert Chemical Weapons being found? It was your boy, Karl Rove.

Insiders Blame Rove for Covering Up Iraq s Real WMD - The Daily Beast

Starting in 2004, some members of the George W. Bush administration and Republican lawmakers began to find evidence of discarded chemical weapons in Iraq. But when the information was brought up with the White House, senior adviser Karl Rove told them to “let these sleeping dogs lie.”

...
In an interview with The Daily Beast, Santorum said he and his staff began receiving photographs of discarded sarin and mustard-gas shells from U.S. soldiers in 2004. Two years later, when he was up for re-election, Santorum even went public with some of this information in a press conference disclosing a Pentagon report that found 500 chemical-weapons shells had been found in Iraq.

One might think a politically vulnerable Bush White House would’ve seized on Santorum’s discovery. After all, Bush and his subordinates famously accused Iraq of having active weapons of mass destruction programs.

But at least in 2005 and 2006, the Bush White House wasn’t interested. “We don’t want to look back,” Santorum recalled Rove as saying (though Santorum stressed he was not quoting verbatim conversations he had more than eight years ago). “I will say that the gist of the comments from the president’s senior people was ‘We don’t want to look back, we want to look forward.’”

 

[depotoo]

Absolutely! And reporting was done, but scarce as most of the media tried to hide it.

Quite the semantics. Bush's general point remains. There were WMD in Iraq. End of story not up for debate. Are you one of those people that rationalize everything instead of answering a simple yes or no question with a yes or no?

Well, no, it's totally up for debate, because Bush didn't say "expired canisters of chemical weapons they lack the capability to deploy", he said "Smoking gun" and "Mushroom Cloud".

If he didn't have an accurate accounting until after they'd been found in 2005 or later how could you expect him to tell us exactly what would be found?

He suspected wmds and he was right. That is all that matters, sonny boy.

 

[auditor0007]

We know Iraq had chemical weapons all along because we sold them to them.

Yes, we know they had them, and they were so out of date that they were no longer effective as chemical weapons.

Pentagon hid info on thousands of chemical weapons in Iraq for years Hot Air

 

[JoeB131]

Quite the semantics. Bush's general point remains. There were WMD in Iraq. End of story not up for debate. Are you one of those people that rationalize everything instead of answering a simple yes or no question with a yes or no?

Well, no, it's totally up for debate, because Bush didn't say "expired canisters of chemical weapons they lack the capability to deploy", he said "Smoking gun" and "Mushroom Cloud".

If he didn't have an accurate accounting until after they'd been found in 2005 or later how could you expect him to tell us exactly what would be found?

He suspected wmds and he was right. That is all that matters, sonny boy.

Um, no. Suspected isn't good enough. Not when you start a war that kills thousands of people.

 

[JoeB131]

...but, at the direct and intentional loss of 4 American lives. One an Ambassador.

He didn't want the Romney campaign to humiliate him and discredit the slogan by pointing out with the illegal arms deal in Benghazi and 4 Americans killed, one of them an Ambassador, who was it who did that but al Qaeda?

Obama lied and 4 died to preserve his campaign's credibility.

Fucking disgraceful.

Oh, is this the paranoid theory of the week? There was an arms deal.

So let me get this straight. Four people die in Benghazi trying to help them rebuild their country, and that's a big scandal.

But fighting a war over weapons that didn't exist and killed 4500 American troops isn't?

seriously, guy, you are starting to come off as a complete loon. Might as well quit while you are behind.