Workable solutions re: feed the hungry

[ABikerSailor]

Not the sharpest tack, but we already knew that. What you're talking about is what's labelled "Low Food Security" meaning:



USDA's labels describe ranges of food security

Food Security

High food security (old label=Food security): no reported indications of food-access problems or limitations.

Marginal food security (old label=Food security): one or two reported indications--typically of anxiety over food sufficiency or shortage of food in the house. Little or no indication of changes in diets or food intake.

Food Insecurity
Low food security (old label=Food insecurity without hunger): reports of reduced quality, variety, or desirability of diet. Little or no indication of reduced food intake.

Very low food security (old label=Food insecurity with hunger): Reports of multiple indications of disrupted eating patterns and reduced food intake.

Idiot bandying about the term hunger are insulting those who really are. Very, very few in the US could actually be called hungry, and those that are are usually suffering from mental conditions.

Might wanna check Google again, because there are 1 out of every 6 children in America who are suffering under food insecurity.

But....................we already know that the rich don't think about things like that. Yeah, to those who earn over 50,000 dollars/year, 36 bucks per month isn't that much, but to those who only make around 18,000 to 20,000 dollars/year, 36 dollars per month is a lot.

And....................if you earn less, 36 dollars is a lot more to them.

Did you know that 36 dollars can feed a family of 4 for around a week? How would YOU like to go hungry one week out of every 4 because you had your benefits cut?

And.......................the reason many Americans are obese? It's because they have to buy food that contributes to their condition (as well as diabetes, heart disease, etc.) because they don't have enough money to get healthy.

It's more expensive to eat food that keeps you healthy than it does to eat food that keeps you alive (for a shorter time), because healthy food is more expensive.

Food insecurity does not translate to hunger. Don't you get tired of being a hack and spouting off mindless mantra?

Actually, food insecurity DOES translate into hunger, because you really don't know if you're going to be fed the next day or not. Me? I lived with it for a couple of years when my mother got divorced from my 2nd stepfather (yeah...........she may have made some bad choices in men she married, but I've gotten comfortable with that, because sometimes people make poor choices), and I know what it's like to eat one day and go hungry for the next two or three. Have YOU ever been in that situation? It sucks. Especially when you're 7 or 8 years old and are wondering why you can't have something to eat and have to listen to your parent cry because they can't provide for you or your sibling.

And...........................if I'm a "hack" spouting mindless mantra for the masses, why do I keep bringing up what I've lived through?

I was also a foster child for a while after I was orphaned at 8.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Soldiers should be paid more.

As one of those soldiers (or more correctly stated: airman) – no they should not. Don’t get me wrong, it is a hell of a job but to be quite frank there is almost no other job that you can walk out of school without a diploma and right into a job that earns you over 30K a year with zero skills and zero job experience. The floor of the military pays INCREDIBLY well. It should be that way but trust me – we make plenty of cash. I would argue that the ceiling is actually ridiculously low but then again, there are reasons for that as well and I would not like to see that increased either.

A few decades ago you would be correct but the military pay tables have been corrected and now we are well paid for the tough job that we are asked to accomplish.

Actually, if you want to a job you can "walk out of school without a diploma" you may wish to re-think joining the military. There are only 10 percent of the applicants that we can admit to the Navy without a H.S. diploma, and where a diploma candidate can score as low as 32 on the ASVAB, those who don't have a diploma have to score 51 or more, and they are considered to be HP3 candidates, which means not only do they have to outperform other applicants on the ASVAB, but they also have to have almost squeaky clean records before they can be considered for application into the military.

How do I know this? Simple.....................I ran the U.S. Navy MEPS in Amarillo TX from 1999 until 2002 as the Head Classifier and the Leading Petty Officer.

You can't just "walk into a job in the military" without a diploma from a high school.

Try again with your bullshit though.......................

And..................btw..........................as an E-6 over 19 years (I retired at 20), I only made around 35,000/year. Anyone who enters the U.S. Military will join up as an E-1 or E-2 (E-3 if they have the right credentials) which is much LESS than your figure of 30,000/yr.

Here.....................let me help you out with a link.....................

2014 Military Pay Chart

And those are the pay charts for those who join the military in 2014.

But......................keep talking about something you know nothing about.................

 

[KokomoJojo]

It was never the Federal Governments job to "feed" the people. Charities and local Governments can fill the need.

What part of the "General Welfare" clause don't you get?

Oh yeah..all of it.

The general welfare clause isn't the "carte blanche" clause you statists believe it to be. You might want to do a little study if you're going to continue commenting on these kind of subjects.

yep very true!

in fact is the general welfare pertaining to the states in the federal constitution which was determined not to include the individual of the state and it was with regard to commercial viability and stability of the state but has migrated its way into what was known as the realm and therefore interpreted by the courts to be the clause authorizing the creation of the police state.

Problem is for most situations, sadly, you will not get a fair shake in any state court if it affects their revenue intake and have to go to the federal court to get even marginal relief. so much for separation of government and blah blah blah

the state is just as foreign to the inhabitants as the federal and 10 times more corrupt

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Might wanna check Google again, because there are 1 out of every 6 children in America who are suffering under food insecurity.

But....................we already know that the rich don't think about things like that. Yeah, to those who earn over 50,000 dollars/year, 36 bucks per month isn't that much, but to those who only make around 18,000 to 20,000 dollars/year, 36 dollars per month is a lot.

And....................if you earn less, 36 dollars is a lot more to them.

Did you know that 36 dollars can feed a family of 4 for around a week? How would YOU like to go hungry one week out of every 4 because you had your benefits cut?

And.......................the reason many Americans are obese? It's because they have to buy food that contributes to their condition (as well as diabetes, heart disease, etc.) because they don't have enough money to get healthy.

It's more expensive to eat food that keeps you healthy than it does to eat food that keeps you alive (for a shorter time), because healthy food is more expensive.

Food insecurity does not translate to hunger. Don't you get tired of being a hack and spouting off mindless mantra?

Actually, food insecurity DOES translate into hunger, because you really don't know if you're going to be fed the next day or not. Me? I lived with it for a couple of years when my mother got divorced from my 2nd stepfather (yeah...........she may have made some bad choices in men she married, but I've gotten comfortable with that, because sometimes people make poor choices), and I know what it's like to eat one day and go hungry for the next two or three. Have YOU ever been in that situation? It sucks. Especially when you're 7 or 8 years old and are wondering why you can't have something to eat and have to listen to your parent cry because they can't provide for you or your sibling.

And...........................if I'm a "hack" spouting mindless mantra for the masses, why do I keep bringing up what I've lived through?

I was also a foster child for a while after I was orphaned at 8.

Not according to the USDA. For them all food insecurity means is that you don't have a supply of food in your house. That makes everyone who eats out on a daily basis food insecure, it doesn't make them hungry.

 

[FA_Q2]

Soldiers should be paid more.

As one of those soldiers (or more correctly stated: airman) – no they should not. Don’t get me wrong, it is a hell of a job but to be quite frank there is almost no other job that you can walk out of school without a diploma and right into a job that earns you over 30K a year with zero skills and zero job experience. The floor of the military pays INCREDIBLY well. It should be that way but trust me – we make plenty of cash. I would argue that the ceiling is actually ridiculously low but then again, there are reasons for that as well and I would not like to see that increased either.

A few decades ago you would be correct but the military pay tables have been corrected and now we are well paid for the tough job that we are asked to accomplish.

Actually, if you want to a job you can "walk out of school without a diploma" you may wish to re-think joining the military. There are only 10 percent of the applicants that we can admit to the Navy without a H.S. diploma, and where a diploma candidate can score as low as 32 on the ASVAB, those who don't have a diploma have to score 51 or more, and they are considered to be HP3 candidates, which means not only do they have to outperform other applicants on the ASVAB, but they also have to have almost squeaky clean records before they can be considered for application into the military.

How do I know this? Simple.....................I ran the U.S. Navy MEPS in Amarillo TX from 1999 until 2002 as the Head Classifier and the Leading Petty Officer.

You can't just "walk into a job in the military" without a diploma from a high school.

Try again with your bullshit though.......................

And..................btw..........................as an E-6 over 19 years (I retired at 20), I only made around 35,000/year. Anyone who enters the U.S. Military will join up as an E-1 or E-2 (E-3 if they have the right credentials) which is much LESS than your figure of 30,000/yr.

Here.....................let me help you out with a link.....................

2014 Military Pay Chart

And those are the pay charts for those who join the military in 2014.

But......................keep talking about something you know nothing about.................

I know what I am talking about because I am currently in the military you idiot. Knowing that you retired at E-6 does explain a lot though…

I notice that you link to a basic pay chart. Coming from the military you should be well aware that your basic pay is but a portion of the pay that you receive. Did you bother to add in housing allowance, subsidy allowance, healthcare coverage, dental coverage, educational benefits, annual bonus pays and a host of other benefits that not only count as value but many are straight up cash in your check? Cash that does not count to your taxable income making it an even greater amount than actually shown. But none of that really plays into your rant about me not knowing what I am talking about so I guess that you just want to leave that out…

Then you claim that you can’t just walk out without a diploma and get a good paying job but give the requirements for exactly that. Did I claim that there was nothing else involved? Nope. Nor do you even bother to realize that you only point to navy recruiting requirements which have almost no resemblance with the other forces at all. The Army is the easiest by far to get in at the moment and they are willing to take damn near anyone even with all the cutting.

The next time you feel like being a fucktard go bark up another tree.

 

[ABikerSailor]

As one of those soldiers (or more correctly stated: airman) – no they should not. Don’t get me wrong, it is a hell of a job but to be quite frank there is almost no other job that you can walk out of school without a diploma and right into a job that earns you over 30K a year with zero skills and zero job experience. The floor of the military pays INCREDIBLY well. It should be that way but trust me – we make plenty of cash. I would argue that the ceiling is actually ridiculously low but then again, there are reasons for that as well and I would not like to see that increased either.

A few decades ago you would be correct but the military pay tables have been corrected and now we are well paid for the tough job that we are asked to accomplish.

Actually, if you want to a job you can "walk out of school without a diploma" you may wish to re-think joining the military. There are only 10 percent of the applicants that we can admit to the Navy without a H.S. diploma, and where a diploma candidate can score as low as 32 on the ASVAB, those who don't have a diploma have to score 51 or more, and they are considered to be HP3 candidates, which means not only do they have to outperform other applicants on the ASVAB, but they also have to have almost squeaky clean records before they can be considered for application into the military.

How do I know this? Simple.....................I ran the U.S. Navy MEPS in Amarillo TX from 1999 until 2002 as the Head Classifier and the Leading Petty Officer.

You can't just "walk into a job in the military" without a diploma from a high school.

Try again with your bullshit though.......................

And..................btw..........................as an E-6 over 19 years (I retired at 20), I only made around 35,000/year. Anyone who enters the U.S. Military will join up as an E-1 or E-2 (E-3 if they have the right credentials) which is much LESS than your figure of 30,000/yr.

Here.....................let me help you out with a link.....................

2014 Military Pay Chart

And those are the pay charts for those who join the military in 2014.

But......................keep talking about something you know nothing about.................

I know what I am talking about because I am currently in the military you idiot. Knowing that you retired at E-6 does explain a lot though…

I notice that you link to a basic pay chart. Coming from the military you should be well aware that your basic pay is but a portion of the pay that you receive. Did you bother to add in housing allowance, subsidy allowance, healthcare coverage, dental coverage, educational benefits, annual bonus pays and a host of other benefits that not only count as value but many are straight up cash in your check? Cash that does not count to your taxable income making it an even greater amount than actually shown. But none of that really plays into your rant about me not knowing what I am talking about so I guess that you just want to leave that out…

Then you claim that you can’t just walk out without a diploma and get a good paying job but give the requirements for exactly that. Did I claim that there was nothing else involved? Nope. Nor do you even bother to realize that you only point to navy recruiting requirements which have almost no resemblance with the other forces at all. The Army is the easiest by far to get in at the moment and they are willing to take damn near anyone even with all the cutting.

The next time you feel like being a fucktard go bark up another tree.

Actually, your housing allowance is factored into your paycheck, and yes, you DO pay taxes on your BAQ and VHA. The only exception to that would be if you're lucky enough to qualify for and get base housing.

As far as the educational benefits? Yes, you can get a discount for going to school, but in many cases you have to pay for a portion of your education yourself. You CANNOT get a degree at any school where you're not going to have to pay for it.

And yeah................there are the medical and dental benefits, but to tell you the truth, there are many things you cannot get under the military health care, and if you require a specialist, most times you're going to have to CHAMPUS (if it's still called that) out, and most of the time, that also requires that you make a co-payment on that as well.

Yep...............I remember many times sitting in NR and R (Navy Rights and Responsibilities) class and having people tell me how much money I was making compared to my civilian counterparts, but guess what? Even though they tried to tell us how much we were making because of all the benefits we'd receive, most of the time those benefits didn't translate into real money that you could use to feed your family. Why else do you think that anyone who is between the paygrades of E-1 through E-4 qualify for programs like WIC (Women Infants and Children) and SNAP? It's because they don't make enough.

And no................a person without a high school diploma cannot just "walk in" to a military job. You have to meet certain requirements, like scoring over 50 on the ASVAB (high school grads only have to score 32), as well as have a spotless record concerning crime, have to be granted a waiver by the CO of the NRD you're trying to enlist at, and, the total allowance of those who are granted HP3 status (High Performance Profile Predictor) is only 10 percent of the total number of people who are allowed to enlist.

Got news for you................all the new billets opened up on October 1st (beginning of the fiscal year) and by the time late November or mid December hit, we'd already used up all of our HP3 billets for the year.

I know these things because I was Head Classifier as well as LPO at Amarillo MEPS from 1999 until I retired in 2002.

And...............there is no shame in retiring as an E-6, especially when you're in a rating that is CREO group C and is sitting at around 130 percent manning. If you're in CREO group A (an undermanned rating) you can advance pretty quickly, all you have to do is pass the test. If you're in a rating that is overmanned, the competition is pretty fierce. In 1997, I was the only PN to be advanced to E-6 out of the entire PSD District 8, which covered almost all of the northeast.

But................go ahead and keep talking if it makes you feel better.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Actually, if you want to a job you can "walk out of school without a diploma" you may wish to re-think joining the military. There are only 10 percent of the applicants that we can admit to the Navy without a H.S. diploma, and where a diploma candidate can score as low as 32 on the ASVAB, those who don't have a diploma have to score 51 or more, and they are considered to be HP3 candidates, which means not only do they have to outperform other applicants on the ASVAB, but they also have to have almost squeaky clean records before they can be considered for application into the military.

How do I know this? Simple.....................I ran the U.S. Navy MEPS in Amarillo TX from 1999 until 2002 as the Head Classifier and the Leading Petty Officer.

You can't just "walk into a job in the military" without a diploma from a high school.

Try again with your bullshit though.......................

And..................btw..........................as an E-6 over 19 years (I retired at 20), I only made around 35,000/year. Anyone who enters the U.S. Military will join up as an E-1 or E-2 (E-3 if they have the right credentials) which is much LESS than your figure of 30,000/yr.

Here.....................let me help you out with a link.....................

2014 Military Pay Chart

And those are the pay charts for those who join the military in 2014.

But......................keep talking about something you know nothing about.................

I know what I am talking about because I am currently in the military you idiot. Knowing that you retired at E-6 does explain a lot though…

I notice that you link to a basic pay chart. Coming from the military you should be well aware that your basic pay is but a portion of the pay that you receive. Did you bother to add in housing allowance, subsidy allowance, healthcare coverage, dental coverage, educational benefits, annual bonus pays and a host of other benefits that not only count as value but many are straight up cash in your check? Cash that does not count to your taxable income making it an even greater amount than actually shown. But none of that really plays into your rant about me not knowing what I am talking about so I guess that you just want to leave that out…

Then you claim that you can’t just walk out without a diploma and get a good paying job but give the requirements for exactly that. Did I claim that there was nothing else involved? Nope. Nor do you even bother to realize that you only point to navy recruiting requirements which have almost no resemblance with the other forces at all. The Army is the easiest by far to get in at the moment and they are willing to take damn near anyone even with all the cutting.

The next time you feel like being a fucktard go bark up another tree.

Actually, your housing allowance is factored into your paycheck, and yes, you DO pay taxes on your BAQ and VHA. The only exception to that would be if you're lucky enough to qualify for and get base housing.

As far as the educational benefits? Yes, you can get a discount for going to school, but in many cases you have to pay for a portion of your education yourself. You CANNOT get a degree at any school where you're not going to have to pay for it.

And yeah................there are the medical and dental benefits, but to tell you the truth, there are many things you cannot get under the military health care, and if you require a specialist, most times you're going to have to CHAMPUS (if it's still called that) out, and most of the time, that also requires that you make a co-payment on that as well.

Yep...............I remember many times sitting in NR and R (Navy Rights and Responsibilities) class and having people tell me how much money I was making compared to my civilian counterparts, but guess what? Even though they tried to tell us how much we were making because of all the benefits we'd receive, most of the time those benefits didn't translate into real money that you could use to feed your family. Why else do you think that anyone who is between the paygrades of E-1 through E-4 qualify for programs like WIC (Women Infants and Children) and SNAP? It's because they don't make enough.

And no................a person without a high school diploma cannot just "walk in" to a military job. You have to meet certain requirements, like scoring over 50 on the ASVAB (high school grads only have to score 32), as well as have a spotless record concerning crime, have to be granted a waiver by the CO of the NRD you're trying to enlist at, and, the total allowance of those who are granted HP3 status (High Performance Profile Predictor) is only 10 percent of the total number of people who are allowed to enlist.

Got news for you................all the new billets opened up on October 1st (beginning of the fiscal year) and by the time late November or mid December hit, we'd already used up all of our HP3 billets for the year.

I know these things because I was Head Classifier as well as LPO at Amarillo MEPS from 1999 until I retired in 2002.

And...............there is no shame in retiring as an E-6, especially when you're in a rating that is CREO group C and is sitting at around 130 percent manning. If you're in CREO group A (an undermanned rating) you can advance pretty quickly, all you have to do is pass the test. If you're in a rating that is overmanned, the competition is pretty fierce. In 1997, I was the only PN to be advanced to E-6 out of the entire PSD District 8, which covered almost all of the northeast.

But................go ahead and keep talking if it makes you feel better.

I don't remember paying taxes on my BAQ allowance.

Damn, turns out you are wrong.

Again.

Basic Allowance for Quarters (BAQ). BAQ is a non-taxable allowance for housing.

Military.com Content

 

[Meathead]

Actually, if you want to a job you can "walk out of school without a diploma" you may wish to re-think joining the military. There are only 10 percent of the applicants that we can admit to the Navy without a H.S. diploma, and where a diploma candidate can score as low as 32 on the ASVAB, those who don't have a diploma have to score 51 or more, and they are considered to be HP3 candidates, which means not only do they have to outperform other applicants on the ASVAB, but they also have to have almost squeaky clean records before they can be considered for application into the military.

How do I know this? Simple.....................I ran the U.S. Navy MEPS in Amarillo TX from 1999 until 2002 as the Head Classifier and the Leading Petty Officer.

You can't just "walk into a job in the military" without a diploma from a high school.

Try again with your bullshit though.......................

And..................btw..........................as an E-6 over 19 years (I retired at 20), I only made around 35,000/year. Anyone who enters the U.S. Military will join up as an E-1 or E-2 (E-3 if they have the right credentials) which is much LESS than your figure of 30,000/yr.

Here.....................let me help you out with a link.....................

2014 Military Pay Chart

And those are the pay charts for those who join the military in 2014.

But......................keep talking about something you know nothing about.................

I know what I am talking about because I am currently in the military you idiot. Knowing that you retired at E-6 does explain a lot though…

I notice that you link to a basic pay chart. Coming from the military you should be well aware that your basic pay is but a portion of the pay that you receive. Did you bother to add in housing allowance, subsidy allowance, healthcare coverage, dental coverage, educational benefits, annual bonus pays and a host of other benefits that not only count as value but many are straight up cash in your check? Cash that does not count to your taxable income making it an even greater amount than actually shown. But none of that really plays into your rant about me not knowing what I am talking about so I guess that you just want to leave that out…

Then you claim that you can’t just walk out without a diploma and get a good paying job but give the requirements for exactly that. Did I claim that there was nothing else involved? Nope. Nor do you even bother to realize that you only point to navy recruiting requirements which have almost no resemblance with the other forces at all. The Army is the easiest by far to get in at the moment and they are willing to take damn near anyone even with all the cutting.

The next time you feel like being a fucktard go bark up another tree.

Actually, your housing allowance is factored into your paycheck, and yes, you DO pay taxes on your BAQ and VHA. The only exception to that would be if you're lucky enough to qualify for and get base housing.

As far as the educational benefits? Yes, you can get a discount for going to school, but in many cases you have to pay for a portion of your education yourself. You CANNOT get a degree at any school where you're not going to have to pay for it.

And yeah................there are the medical and dental benefits, but to tell you the truth, there are many things you cannot get under the military health care, and if you require a specialist, most times you're going to have to CHAMPUS (if it's still called that) out, and most of the time, that also requires that you make a co-payment on that as well.

Yep...............I remember many times sitting in NR and R (Navy Rights and Responsibilities) class and having people tell me how much money I was making compared to my civilian counterparts, but guess what? Even though they tried to tell us how much we were making because of all the benefits we'd receive, most of the time those benefits didn't translate into real money that you could use to feed your family. Why else do you think that anyone who is between the paygrades of E-1 through E-4 qualify for programs like WIC (Women Infants and Children) and SNAP? It's because they don't make enough.

And no................a person without a high school diploma cannot just "walk in" to a military job. You have to meet certain requirements, like scoring over 50 on the ASVAB (high school grads only have to score 32), as well as have a spotless record concerning crime, have to be granted a waiver by the CO of the NRD you're trying to enlist at, and, the total allowance of those who are granted HP3 status (High Performance Profile Predictor) is only 10 percent of the total number of people who are allowed to enlist.

Got news for you................all the new billets opened up on October 1st (beginning of the fiscal year) and by the time late November or mid December hit, we'd already used up all of our HP3 billets for the year.

I know these things because I was Head Classifier as well as LPO at Amarillo MEPS from 1999 until I retired in 2002.

And...............there is no shame in retiring as an E-6, especially when you're in a rating that is CREO group C and is sitting at around 130 percent manning. If you're in CREO group A (an undermanned rating) you can advance pretty quickly, all you have to do is pass the test. If you're in a rating that is overmanned, the competition is pretty fierce. In 1997, I was the only PN to be advanced to E-6 out of the entire PSD District 8, which covered almost all of the northeast.

But................go ahead and keep talking if it makes you feel better.

Why do you think anyone would be interested that it took you 2 decades to achieve a staff sergeant rank which could have been done in 6 years. It falls along the lines of your previous contention that since you were orphaned it makes you an expert on child services. This was when you advocated that the Greek gypsy girl should be sent back to the couple which used her to get benefits from the state, and the man who had an extensive criminal record.

Where the hell do you come up with any of this stuff?

 

[auditor0007]

Thoughts?

Apparently, food stamps are Bad and Wrong. Minimum wage is fine as is - or maybe we should end it. There aren't enough jobs, and no training is being offered that a destitute person can afford.

In the real world, what is your solution to hunger in the USA.

Maybe there should be facilities like prisons, but only for poor people. To run such a place would likely cost more than welfare - but it is a thought. People would be fed, clothed, and sheltered, which is more security than many of them have now.

We should completely abolish all welfare and leave all of this up to charities. If charities cannot provide enough food and housing for all of the poor, then too bad, they can all live in the streets. I got my gun and if they try to assault me, I'll shoot em like any great American would. If these poor idiots are too dumb to find a job, maybe they can sell their kids into slavery to give them enough money to eat.

 

[billyerock1991]

Thoughts?

Apparently, food stamps are Bad and Wrong. Minimum wage is fine as is - or maybe we should end it. There aren't enough jobs, and no training is being offered that a destitute person can afford.

In the real world, what is your solution to hunger in the USA.

Maybe there should be facilities like prisons, but only for poor people. To run such a place would likely cost more than welfare - but it is a thought. People would be fed, clothed, and sheltered, which is more security than many of them have now.

I think there should be a law passed that keeps the minimum wage above the poverty line that's established each and every year ... by doing so it should help people with health care or not being forced to use food stamps ... places to live, things of that nature ... I also would say any place that we would house these people, to help them through their hard times, there should be a policy to maintain the area they live in ... cut the grass remove all the junk for the area, make it so the people can be proud where they live .... when you give a person a defeat us attitude they ten to not to be proud of who they are ... by keeping them proud of who they are, their state of being, just maybe, just maybe they would strive to do better in their lives and their children's lives ... get them the opportunity to learn a good paying job that some of these corporations need people to do... help these corporations in paying for their training ... to do the job they need to be filled...

 

[billyerock1991]

how about this for a workable solution to hunger....

rice, pasta, beans, cheese, eggs, milk, flour, fruit and veggies....is all you get on food stamps.... as much as you want but that's all you get.

no one will starve....

here's a thought go and price these Items ... that you have pointed out to us ... you'll be surprised what it cost ... are you aware these items will cause obesity if you don't use them in a proper meal ... and what if the do take as much as they want ... then on the week ends sell at the local farmers mart for cash in hand ... then what???? will you start complaining that we are taxed to much for paying for all the rice, pasta, beans, cheese, eggs, milk, flour, fruit and veggies ... with food stamps at least you can control the cost

 

[billyerock1991]

how about this for a workable solution to hunger....

rice, pasta, beans, cheese, eggs, milk, flour, fruit and veggies....is all you get on food stamps.... as much as you want but that's all you get.

no one will starve....

Perfectly agreeable. Food – if that’s what they need then that is what we can give them.

I think we would be pleasantly surprised at the number of people that suddenly did not need food stamps anymore though

heres my thinking ... whats the difference here ???? we still will be taxed for this great Idea you're speaking of... whats the difference????

 

[Meathead]

how about this for a workable solution to hunger....

rice, pasta, beans, cheese, eggs, milk, flour, fruit and veggies....is all you get on food stamps.... as much as you want but that's all you get.

no one will starve....

here's a thought go a rice these Items that you have pointed out to us you'll be surprised what it cost ... are you aware these items will cause obesity if you don't use them in a proper meal ... and what if the do take as much as they want then on the week ends sell at the local farmers mart for cash in hand ... then what???? will you start complaining that we are taxed to much for paying for all the rice, pasta, beans, cheese, eggs, milk, flour, fruit and veggies ... with food stamps at least you can control the cost

Is there something wrong with you?

 

[billyerock1991]

Thoughts?

Apparently, food stamps are Bad and Wrong. Minimum wage is fine as is - or maybe we should end it. There aren't enough jobs, and no training is being offered that a destitute person can afford.

In the real world, what is your solution to hunger in the USA.

Maybe there should be facilities like prisons, but only for poor people. To run such a place would likely cost more than welfare - but it is a thought. People would be fed, clothed, and sheltered, which is more security than many of them have now.

We should completely abolish all welfare and leave all of this up to charities. If charities cannot provide enough food and housing for all of the poor, then too bad, they can all live in the streets. I got my gun and if they try to assault me, I'll shoot em like any great American would. If these poor idiots are too dumb to find a job, maybe they can sell their kids into slavery to give them enough money to eat.

if this isn't the most selfish insane response, I don't know what is

 

[billyerock1991]

how about this for a workable solution to hunger....

rice, pasta, beans, cheese, eggs, milk, flour, fruit and veggies....is all you get on food stamps.... as much as you want but that's all you get.

no one will starve....

here's a thought go a rice these Items that you have pointed out to us you'll be surprised what it cost ... are you aware these items will cause obesity if you don't use them in a proper meal ... and what if they do take as much as they want ... then on the week ends sell it at the local farmers mart for cash in hand ... then what???? will you start complaining that we are taxed to much for paying for all the rice, pasta, beans, cheese, eggs, milk, flour, fruit and veggies ... with food stamps at least you can control the cost

Is there something wrong with you?

why don't you expand on your remark ??? I feel there's nothing wrong with me ... for some reason you think your Idea is great one ... I on the other hand don't.. explain to us why yours is better

 

[billyerock1991]

how about this for a workable solution to hunger....

rice, pasta, beans, cheese, eggs, milk, flour, fruit and veggies....is all you get on food stamps.... as much as you want but that's all you get.

no one will starve....

here's a thought go a rice these Items that you have pointed out to us you'll be surprised what it cost ... are you aware these items will cause obesity if you don't use them in a proper meal ... and what if they do take as much as they want ... then on the week ends sell it at the local farmers mart for cash in hand ... then what???? will you start complaining that we are taxed to much for paying for all the rice, pasta, beans, cheese, eggs, milk, flour, fruit and veggies ... with food stamps at least you can control the cost

Is there something wrong with you?

look at what you want
rice, carbohydrate,
beans, protean
pasta, carbohydrate
cheese, fat
milk, fat
flour, carbohydrate
veggies, carbohydrate, fats and protean depending what you get ... this is not always a good diet

 

[billyerock1991]

how about this for a workable solution to hunger....

rice, pasta, beans, cheese, eggs, milk, flour, fruit and veggies....is all you get on food stamps.... as much as you want but that's all you get.

no one will starve....

here's a thought go a price these Items that you have pointed out to us ...you'll be surprised what it cost ... are you aware these items will cause obesity if you don't use them in a proper meal ... and what if they do take as much as they want ... then on the week ends sell it at the local farmers mart for cash in hand ... then what???? will you start complaining that we are taxed to much for paying for all the rice, pasta, beans, cheese, eggs, milk, flour, fruit and veggies ... with food stamps at least you can control the cost

Is there something wrong with you?

no there's not .... is something wrong with you???

 

[Meathead]

here's a thought go a rice these Items that you have pointed out to us you'll be surprised what it cost ... are you aware these items will cause obesity if you don't use them in a proper meal ... and what if the do take as much as they want then on the week ends sell at the local farmers mart for cash in hand ... then what???? will you start complaining that we are taxed to much for paying for all the rice, pasta, beans, cheese, eggs, milk, flour, fruit and veggies ... with food stamps at least you can control the cost

Is there something wrong with you?[/QUOTE]

why don't you expand on your remark ??? I feel there's nothing wrong with me ... for some reason you think your Idea is great one ... I on the other hand don't.. explain to us why yours is better[/QUOTE]

 

[BDBoop]

Thoughts?

Apparently, food stamps are Bad and Wrong. Minimum wage is fine as is - or maybe we should end it. There aren't enough jobs, and no training is being offered that a destitute person can afford.

In the real world, what is your solution to hunger in the USA.

Maybe there should be facilities like prisons, but only for poor people. To run such a place would likely cost more than welfare - but it is a thought. People would be fed, clothed, and sheltered, which is more security than many of them have now.

We should completely abolish all welfare and leave all of this up to charities. If charities cannot provide enough food and housing for all of the poor, then too bad, they can all live in the streets. I got my gun and if they try to assault me, I'll shoot em like any great American would. If these poor idiots are too dumb to find a job, maybe they can sell their kids into slavery to give them enough money to eat.

if this isn't the most selfish insane response, I don't know what is

Sorry; we don't have a sarcasm font.

 

[billyerock1991]

Is there something wrong with you?

why don't you expand on your remark ??? I feel there's nothing wrong with me ... for some reason you think your Idea is great one ... I on the other hand don't.. explain to us why yours is better

I understand that what you meant was likely conceived clearly in your mind, but your attempt to articulate it is staggeringly painful. Why do you feel the need to post anything if you are incapable of written communication?

Now, if you have a severe case of dyslexia that would be unfortunate, but my question would still stand.

I see you couldn't respond to my post .. so now you become condescending ... because I pointed out how moronic your post is ... got ya !!!!