CDZ Why Show the Hookers? Why Not Show the Johns?

[deanrd]

What’s the difference with a married man sleeping with porn stars having unprotected sex and with playboy bunnies. Is it because he pays them 130,000 or $150,000 that it’s OK? Seems to be OK for evangelicals.

 

[danielpalos]

we get what we pay for, under Capitalism.

Not for $15.00/hr.

i offer free full body massage, to help with social costs.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

we get what we pay for, under Capitalism.

Not for $15.00/hr.

i offer free full body massage, to help with social costs.

LOL

 

[JoeB131]

You are the one who took it off track, I answered you posts.....#63, where you brought the NRA into a conversation about the victims of human trafficking.....you did that, not me...

Um, no, that was the guy who posted before me, and was totally under the impression the National Rampage Assocation was about fighting for rights... You know, instead of selling guns to people who have no business having guns.

Also, "Human Trafficking"? Aren't we being a little melodramatic?

 

[JoeB131]

The women are too often the victims of exploitation...they need help. Many of them were destroyed as children and have had no way out........we should get them help.

Maybe this is the only marketable skill that they have. Maybe some of them actually enjoy having sex with strangers.

It's not called "The world's oldest profession" for nothing.

Here's an interesting thing. Bonobo Chimpanzees practice a form of prostitution...

Bonobos, a primate close to humans, is highly sexed and uses sexuality as a means of maintaining social order - NY Daily News

98.6% of the same DNA as humans...

 

[JoeB131]

And you consider these measures reasonable?

It's off topic, but um, yeah, I really don't have a problem with either of these.

The Lawn Dart was badly designed. The should have figured out that when you design a projectile to be thrown and stick into the ground, kids being kids will eventually start throwing them at each other.

And, um, yeah, it's a pain to take off your shoes in the airport, but explosive decompression would generally mess up your day a lot more.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

And you consider these measures reasonable?

It's off topic, but um, yeah, I really don't have a problem with either of these.

The Lawn Dart was badly designed. The should have figured out that when you design a projectile to be thrown and stick into the ground, kids being kids will eventually start throwing them at each other.

And, um, yeah, it's a pain to take off your shoes in the airport, but explosive decompression would generally mess up your day a lot more.

And who took it off topic?

Product liability generally weeds out a lot of things once someone gets injured when the product behaves in a manner contrary to design however it doesn't account for stupid people doing stupid things with their products, at least not generally which is why the gun manufacturer's have immunity.

On the other hand lots of things can cause explosive decompression and lots of other things can still cause a plane to crash. I don't think making us take our shoes off is the reason no other shoe event has happened.

 

[JoeB131]

And who took it off topic?

Product liability generally weeds out a lot of things once someone gets injured when the product behaves in a manner contrary to design however it doesn't account for stupid people doing stupid things with their products, at least not generally which is why the gun manufacturer's have immunity.

But that's the point. They design and market a product that kills people, and then sell it to the most irresponsible people out there... but they lobbied themselves immunity from liability.

On the other hand lots of things can cause explosive decompression and lots of other things can still cause a plane to crash. I don't think making us take our shoes off is the reason no other shoe event has happened.

Or no one else has tried it because we search for it now. Oh, yeah, and killed a lot of these guys.

 

[danielpalos]

What’s the difference with a married man sleeping with porn stars having unprotected sex and with playboy bunnies. Is it because he pays them 130,000 or $150,000 that it’s OK? Seems to be OK for evangelicals.

we subscribe to Capitalism.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Living in Nevada, my immediate response is to ask why they’re working on the streets and not in a clean, well-regulated brothel?

But I do agree that the best way to “clean this up” is to show the faces of the Johns. Let the whole world know what they’re doing. See how their friends and families react.

“Carrying out undercover operations in the area (Willow Street) has become a routine response to complaints from residents, yet women keep returning to the area,” reads the article.

Because that’s where the customers are, duh.

Because the cost of a legal brothel is about $600.00, and the cost of a streetwalker is considerably less.

So it seems to me that they are just eliminating the competition.

How's this for a crazy idea. Let's legalize ALL prostitution, and be done with it.

If prostitution were legal they'd at least have police protection.

That's a valid point, and it may would get the gangsters out if it some, too.

 

[Rando Caucasian]

Whores are whores. Meaning a whore is just a piece of garbage, literal human waste. A john is the same, but at least they have money.
You figure it out.

I'll try to stir the pot. Tame does not get replies on here:

Ey, someone goes to work every day and spends 8 hours being Trump's apologist. There are also real estate agents out there and Wells Fargo employees.

I'm for small government and have no problem with prostitution. If you have a religious problem with prostitutes, I don't care but I'm not going to make you use them or anything. Just don't interfere with the rights of others because your version of Allah cares what people do with their genitals.

If you want to use some kind of big government Allah recognizing power to regulate prostitution I guess get some votes and go ahead. Just be honest about your allegiances to some odd deity, lack of separation of church and state and love of big government.

Notice how you did not address the fundamental point?
Whores are shit, johns are shit with money.

So I guess we agree that a whore is just sewage? Seems to be the case... so why inject your shill bullshit?

I disagree with that. In my small government world of seperation of church and state I can't believe prostitution is illegal.

Being illegal it does attract less desireable types.

In my mind everything is tied together. If we profess to like small government prostitution should be legal.

If we can vote for Donald and his tit for tat personal life of trophy wives, prostitution should be legal.

Now if we are a religious state where you need to pray to my version of god then things my I say my god thinks should be illegal will be.

Churches oppose slavery... states, not so much.
So, you think slavery is just a matter of capital?

 

[Rando Caucasian]

Living in Nevada, my immediate response is to ask why they’re working on the streets and not in a clean, well-regulated brothel?

But I do agree that the best way to “clean this up” is to show the faces of the Johns. Let the whole world know what they’re doing. See how their friends and families react.

“Carrying out undercover operations in the area (Willow Street) has become a routine response to complaints from residents, yet women keep returning to the area,” reads the article.

Because that’s where the customers are, duh.

Because the cost of a legal brothel is about $600.00, and the cost of a streetwalker is considerably less.

So it seems to me that they are just eliminating the competition.

How's this for a crazy idea. Let's legalize ALL prostitution, and be done with it.

If prostitution were legal they'd at least have police protection.

That's a valid point, and it may would get the gangsters out if it some, too.

Government is gangsters. Pay attention.

 

[Toronado3800]

Whores are whores. Meaning a whore is just a piece of garbage, literal human waste. A john is the same, but at least they have money.
You figure it out.

I'll try to stir the pot. Tame does not get replies on here:

Ey, someone goes to work every day and spends 8 hours being Trump's apologist. There are also real estate agents out there and Wells Fargo employees.

I'm for small government and have no problem with prostitution. If you have a religious problem with prostitutes, I don't care but I'm not going to make you use them or anything. Just don't interfere with the rights of others because your version of Allah cares what people do with their genitals.

If you want to use some kind of big government Allah recognizing power to regulate prostitution I guess get some votes and go ahead. Just be honest about your allegiances to some odd deity, lack of separation of church and state and love of big government.

Notice how you did not address the fundamental point?
Whores are shit, johns are shit with money.

So I guess we agree that a whore is just sewage? Seems to be the case... so why inject your shill bullshit?

I disagree with that. In my small government world of seperation of church and state I can't believe prostitution is illegal.

Being illegal it does attract less desireable types.

In my mind everything is tied together. If we profess to like small government prostitution should be legal.

If we can vote for Donald and his tit for tat personal life of trophy wives, prostitution should be legal.

Now if we are a religious state where you need to pray to my version of god then things my I say my god thinks should be illegal will be.

Churches oppose slavery... states, not so much.
So, you think slavery is just a matter of capital?

Churches oppose slavery.....

Did I mention slavery? Its been a couple days and I just read one or two replies back.

BTW, DID the churches of the south oppose slavery? Or did popular opinion force them tonchange their minds? What did the New Covenant have to say about it? I really don't know, in my small government country churches are kept out of the state's affairs.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

a male police officer; lock him up!

why do you keep saying that?

 

[Toronado3800]

I'll try to stir the pot. Tame does not get replies on here:

Ey, someone goes to work every day and spends 8 hours being Trump's apologist. There are also real estate agents out there and Wells Fargo employees.

I'm for small government and have no problem with prostitution. If you have a religious problem with prostitutes, I don't care but I'm not going to make you use them or anything. Just don't interfere with the rights of others because your version of Allah cares what people do with their genitals.

If you want to use some kind of big government Allah recognizing power to regulate prostitution I guess get some votes and go ahead. Just be honest about your allegiances to some odd deity, lack of separation of church and state and love of big government.

Notice how you did not address the fundamental point?
Whores are shit, johns are shit with money.

So I guess we agree that a whore is just sewage? Seems to be the case... so why inject your shill bullshit?

I disagree with that. In my small government world of seperation of church and state I can't believe prostitution is illegal.

Being illegal it does attract less desireable types.

In my mind everything is tied together. If we profess to like small government prostitution should be legal.

If we can vote for Donald and his tit for tat personal life of trophy wives, prostitution should be legal.

Now if we are a religious state where you need to pray to my version of god then things my I say my god thinks should be illegal will be.

Churches oppose slavery... states, not so much.
So, you think slavery is just a matter of capital?

Churches oppose slavery.....

Did I mention slavery? Its been a couple days and I just read one or two replies back.

BTW, DID the churches of the south oppose slavery? Or did popular opinion force them tonchange their minds? What did the New Covenant have to say about it? I really don't know, in my small government country churches are kept out of the state's affairs.

The Church outlawed slavery a century or so before America was even thought of.
The state, with jewish interests in mind, kept it "legal".

Now answer the fucking question.
So, you think slavery is just a matter of capital?

Ey buddy, calm down on the anger, you are in the CDZ. If talking about this is winding you up soo severely maybe take a break.

 

[Rando Caucasian]

Notice how you did not address the fundamental point?
Whores are shit, johns are shit with money.

So I guess we agree that a whore is just sewage? Seems to be the case... so why inject your shill bullshit?

I disagree with that. In my small government world of seperation of church and state I can't believe prostitution is illegal.

Being illegal it does attract less desireable types.

In my mind everything is tied together. If we profess to like small government prostitution should be legal.

If we can vote for Donald and his tit for tat personal life of trophy wives, prostitution should be legal.

Now if we are a religious state where you need to pray to my version of god then things my I say my god thinks should be illegal will be.

Churches oppose slavery... states, not so much.
So, you think slavery is just a matter of capital?

Churches oppose slavery.....

Did I mention slavery? Its been a couple days and I just read one or two replies back.

BTW, DID the churches of the south oppose slavery? Or did popular opinion force them tonchange their minds? What did the New Covenant have to say about it? I really don't know, in my small government country churches are kept out of the state's affairs.

The Church outlawed slavery a century or so before America was even thought of.
The state, with jewish interests in mind, kept it "legal".

Now answer the fucking question.
So, you think slavery is just a matter of capital?

Ey buddy, calm down on the anger, you are in the CDZ. If talking about this is winding you up soo severely maybe take a break.

It really is difficult for you to answer the question isn't it?
If you are concerned about it being a clean debate... why don't you answer the question?

 

[Toronado3800]

I disagree with that. In my small government world of seperation of church and state I can't believe prostitution is illegal.

Being illegal it does attract less desireable types.

In my mind everything is tied together. If we profess to like small government prostitution should be legal.

If we can vote for Donald and his tit for tat personal life of trophy wives, prostitution should be legal.

Now if we are a religious state where you need to pray to my version of god then things my I say my god thinks should be illegal will be.

Churches oppose slavery... states, not so much.
So, you think slavery is just a matter of capital?

Churches oppose slavery.....

Did I mention slavery? Its been a couple days and I just read one or two replies back.

BTW, DID the churches of the south oppose slavery? Or did popular opinion force them tonchange their minds? What did the New Covenant have to say about it? I really don't know, in my small government country churches are kept out of the state's affairs.

The Church outlawed slavery a century or so before America was even thought of.
The state, with jewish interests in mind, kept it "legal".

Now answer the fucking question.
So, you think slavery is just a matter of capital?

Ey buddy, calm down on the anger, you are in the CDZ. If talking about this is winding you up soo severely maybe take a break.

It really is difficult for you to answer the question isn't it?
If you are concerned about it being a clean debate... why don't you answer the question?

Let me be blunt. There is a little Dexter in me so take this the right way.

Your comments about "whores being the scum of the earth" or whatever and "the state and their jewish interests" have sorta put you in a box where I feel most of the civilized world is going to mess with you in the hopes of getting your heart rate up and shortening your life. Not that I'm affiliated but you'll learn that you never know who you are talking with in a bar. Heck, white guys telling me ****** jokes think I'm not reporting back on who said what or using it to determine when I let the hammer of affirmative action come down.

So do I think slavery is "just a matter of capital"? You might have to explain the question in more detail.

If it matters to this debate on prostitution, I'm thinking slavery is both an economic institution and one of status. I believe even if modern machines replaced farm slaves in the south because machines are more efficient there would still be slaves for the well to do. Consider the status of the black man in the south into the 60's and how even in a fairly enlightened area I've noticed Catholic boys grown up into human resource jobs scanning combine high schools, zip codes and commonly black last names to determine who not to call back for interviews.

I also think the primary cause of succession was slavery, Texas and the VP of the South are full of good quotes.

So bring this around to prostitution for me, w/o blaming jews for all our problems. It sets off them NAZI warning flags in my head.

 

[JoeMoma]

a male police officer; lock him up!

why do you keep saying that?

Could be because a male undercover police officer is not going to catch any johns because the officer is playing the role of the john. An undercover female officer would be needed to catch the johns, but that was not how this sting was set up.

 

[danielpalos]

what if,

i cannot find any nice girls for free under our form of Capitalism?

 

[Toronado3800]

what if,

i cannot find any nice girls for free under our form of Capitalism?

Aw man. Trust me, they're out there. Just hang out places where you'll meet women with totally scuzzy exes. Lawyers who specialize in collecting back child support. Safe houses for women running from crazy men. All you'll have to do is look better than the ex.