Why I'm voting Democrat Part 2: Romney's insult to cops/firemen

[eflatminor]

Oh really, thanks for educating me. Because the Charleston County Sheriff's Office (Charleston, SC) used stimulus money to help keep a few dozen deputies employed from 2009-2011. OH.....they're non-union, and their starting pay is about 34K a year. Those deputies took that money....and spent every dime on some private sector good or service.

My facts are straight from experience, not a hunch, or what Newt Gingrich said on TV.

Since when are police budgets released to their hired janitors?

My neighbor is a deputy. Im a former cop from GA. You know...the whole blue brotherhood thing and how we are all friends? Not rocket science. But really....its fairly common knowledge that PD's get help from the Feds in tough times. George Washington sent help to Charleston in 1779 to help defend the city (Continentals, not state militia Charleston History)

And the Constitution was put into effect on March 4, 1789. God you're ignorant.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

You're not gaining any follower, nobody takes you seriously, nobody pays any attention to you.

Ok. Then I assume with that post you will now stop reading/responding to me. Goodbye.

Oh Hell no!

You should be so lucky!

You're a special project for me

 

[bucs90]

Here is a link of the great fires of Charleston, and their dates: Historic Charleston Foundation - Charleston, SC - Mapping Charleston Notice the Data exists for fires in 1740, 1778, 1796, 1838, and 1861. Washinton's presidency was from 1788-1797. He sent federal aid to Charleston for the fire of 1796 because the Charleston fire crew was plagued with an illness. You should seriously visit Charleston for a history tour sometime. You can even eat at the Mills House, or several other that President Washington stayed at. You may learn something.


So....when exactly are firemen and cops "no longer needed" in our society? When crime is down, fire all the cops? Is that the Tea Party mantra?

 

[Vel]

Seriously, stop being a pussy. You're boring. You likely always were a closet Socialist/Progressive. So now you're out, good for you. Move on. SHEESH!

Wow.

This is hilarious. When a left winger decides voting GOP is better for him, he is cheered and congratulated and is said to simply have figured things out, or matured, etc. Never "he was always a closet rich Republican".

All I've done is take a few months (notice I haven't posted in a long while) and analyze my views with that of the current politicians in my city, county, state and nation.

And right now, my views are more represented by Democrats than Republicans.

Thats the foundation of non-partisan independence. Or as some call it, FREEDOM.

Thats all I did. And I'll do it again in 2014 and 2016.

It's actually called having no real principles. For you, it's just a case of the end justifies the means. It doesn't matter to you whether something is fair or right. It only matters that you get what you want.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Or you could just continue to lie 24/7 about the Tea Party, just like your Fearless Leader Obama and his Idiot Sidekick Biden

 

[bucs90]

You're not gaining any follower, nobody takes you seriously, nobody pays any attention to you.

Ok. Then I assume with that post you will now stop reading/responding to me. Goodbye.

Oh Hell no!

You should be so lucky!

You're a special project for me

Glad I've fascinated you so much.

 

[eflatminor]

So....when exactly are firemen and cops "no longer needed" in our society? When crime is down, fire all the cops? Is that the Tea Party mantra?

Another disingenious lie. Nobody ever said NO cops or firefighters. However, that a community might require less is logical. As is a community that can no longer afford the number they thought they could. In those instances, firing SOME of the public employees is perfectly reasonable.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Seriously, stop being a pussy. You're boring. You likely always were a closet Socialist/Progressive. So now you're out, good for you. Move on. SHEESH!

Wow.

This is hilarious. When a left winger decides voting GOP is better for him, he is cheered and congratulated and is said to simply have figured things out, or matured, etc. Never "he was always a closet rich Republican".

All I've done is take a few months (notice I haven't posted in a long while) and analyze my views with that of the current politicians in my city, county, state and nation.

And right now, my views are more represented by Democrats than Republicans.

Thats the foundation of non-partisan independence. Or as some call it, FREEDOM.

Thats all I did. And I'll do it again in 2014 and 2016.

No, you're being a pussy. You've bought into the Socialist/Progressive propaganda. You're only proving how weak-minded and cowardly you are. But hey, good riddance. Now you're where you belong. One more phony pussy gone. It's a good thing. Thanks.

What Paulitician is saying is "What are ya Chicken?"

Sure that frame of mind died out after 4th grade but maybe he never made it pass that

 

[eflatminor]

Here is a link of the great fires of Charleston, and their dates: Historic Charleston Foundation - Charleston, SC - Mapping Charleston Notice the Data exists for fires in 1740, 1778, 1796, 1838, and 1861. Washinton's presidency was from 1788-1797. He sent federal aid to Charleston for the fire of 1796 because the Charleston fire crew was plagued with an illness. You should seriously visit Charleston for a history tour sometime. You can even eat at the Mills House, or several other that President Washington stayed at. You may learn something.[/quote]

So which enumerated power is it?

 

[bucs90]

Seriously, stop being a pussy. You're boring. You likely always were a closet Socialist/Progressive. So now you're out, good for you. Move on. SHEESH!

Wow.

This is hilarious. When a left winger decides voting GOP is better for him, he is cheered and congratulated and is said to simply have figured things out, or matured, etc. Never "he was always a closet rich Republican".

All I've done is take a few months (notice I haven't posted in a long while) and analyze my views with that of the current politicians in my city, county, state and nation.

And right now, my views are more represented by Democrats than Republicans.

Thats the foundation of non-partisan independence. Or as some call it, FREEDOM.

Thats all I did. And I'll do it again in 2014 and 2016.

It's actually called having no real principles. For you, it's just a case of the end justifies the means. It doesn't matter to you whether something is fair or right. It only matters that you get what you want.

So let me get this right.......

- Once I vote for a party, or align myself, theres no going back? Even if my views, or the actions of that groups elected officials, change?

Is this like the Bloods/Crips gangs, where I gotta get "jumped out"??

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Ok. Then I assume with that post you will now stop reading/responding to me. Goodbye.

Oh Hell no!

You should be so lucky!

You're a special project for me

Glad I've fascinated you so much.

Like I said, Bucs Starkey, you're now my special project

 

[Pho_King]

The Real Message Behind Mitt Romney’s Anti-Police And Firefighters ‘Gaffe’ | Mediaite

All the right wingers of the political world who are in power (mayors, govs, councils) seem to share the same idea: It's open season on cops and firemen. Lump them into the evil "government worker" label, and start slashing away.

This story didn't get reported much at all. Why? Well, maybe because I used to watch mostly FoxNews, and they just didn't spend a lot of time on it. I'm sure CNN, NBC, etc, didn't either.

And the above article sums it up so well. Romney and the right wing TP need votes from the right wing and independents. Which are mostly middle and upper class, many live in suburbs, and many are white. Which is fine. But the article explains, perfectly, that THOSE voting groups aren't as dependent on cops and firemen as, say, those in inner city ghettos. It says in those places, reductions in cops wont cause "someone to die" as a result. Thus, the voters accept it and dont really care. Again....just government workers, which are BAD.

Which is why I personally think "they" dont get it. Many on the right and in the TP live in the suburbs or in safe rural areas. They see a cop here and there. Probably live in fairly safe areas, with the biggest problems being speeding, DUI, some minor thefts. To them, "more cops" not only makes no sense, but they see TOO MANY cops. (Note: Often the case in cities the cops have helped make safe, the locals feel they are no longer necessary). Same with firemen. No one needs a fireman until their house is on fire.

What they dont realize is most FD's also have certified paramedics on the truck. And respond to ALL medical calls. So a person having a minor medical problem has a paramedic show up. If he/she can treat it there, guess what? It's free. You dont pay for an ambulance ride. You dont pay for an ER visit. Which means healthcare costs never happen. Good for everyone involved.

Unless you're the rich TP'er who sees the fire truck stopped at Subway for lunch and think "what a waste of my tax dollars to have so many fire trucks".

Really, it costs nothing to have a paramedic show up in an ambulance to put a bandaid on someone's booboo? It's free? Damn.

 

[bucs90]

None. It is just sending help where help is needed. It's called Loving Thy Neighbor.

Which founding father said that???? I can't remember his name. Dude had a beard I think. Not Abe. Ummm...........

 

[Pho_King]

Wow.

This is hilarious. When a left winger decides voting GOP is better for him, he is cheered and congratulated and is said to simply have figured things out, or matured, etc. Never "he was always a closet rich Republican".

All I've done is take a few months (notice I haven't posted in a long while) and analyze my views with that of the current politicians in my city, county, state and nation.

And right now, my views are more represented by Democrats than Republicans.

Thats the foundation of non-partisan independence. Or as some call it, FREEDOM.

Thats all I did. And I'll do it again in 2014 and 2016.

It's actually called having no real principles. For you, it's just a case of the end justifies the means. It doesn't matter to you whether something is fair or right. It only matters that you get what you want.

So let me get this right.......

- Once I vote for a party, or align myself, theres no going back? Even if my views, or the actions of that groups elected officials, change?

Is this like the Bloods/Crips gangs, where I gotta get "jumped out"??

Yeah. You started as a conservative, and switched to being an OWS parasite. Very believable.

 

[bucs90]

Nope. It costs something. Gas in the fire truck. Pay for the firemen (same pay whether they come to a call or not).

But I bet that public sector band aid and aspirin will cost a SHITLOAD less than the one you get down at Private Sector Medical Center and their doctor.

 

[Pho_King]

What OWS parasites like you believe in is " love thy neighbor, through thy federal government, using other peoples money". Big difference between that and the biblical admonishment.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Seriously, stop being a pussy. You're boring. You likely always were a closet Socialist/Progressive. So now you're out, good for you. Move on. SHEESH!

Wow.

This is hilarious. When a left winger decides voting GOP is better for him, he is cheered and congratulated and is said to simply have figured things out, or matured, etc. Never "he was always a closet rich Republican".

All I've done is take a few months (notice I haven't posted in a long while) and analyze my views with that of the current politicians in my city, county, state and nation.

And right now, my views are more represented by Democrats than Republicans.

Thats the foundation of non-partisan independence. Or as some call it, FREEDOM.

Thats all I did. And I'll do it again in 2014 and 2016.

It's actually called having no real principles. For you, it's just a case of the end justifies the means. It doesn't matter to you whether something is fair or right. It only matters that you get what you want.

Principals?!?!

Independents have no principals? You must have some big guns after using that broad brush

 

[CrusaderFrank]

It's actually called having no real principles. For you, it's just a case of the end justifies the means. It doesn't matter to you whether something is fair or right. It only matters that you get what you want.

So let me get this right.......

- Once I vote for a party, or align myself, theres no going back? Even if my views, or the actions of that groups elected officials, change?

Is this like the Bloods/Crips gangs, where I gotta get "jumped out"??

Yeah. You started as a conservative, and switched to being an OWS parasite. Very believable.

Yeah. Really. Truly. Uh huh. He's not kidding. He like thought about stuff. Like spending and how Mitt Romney is such a mean poopyhead and it convinced him to become an Obamaroid.

Really!

 

[asaratis]

Ok. Then I assume with that post you will now stop reading/responding to me. Goodbye.

Oh Hell no!

You should be so lucky!

You're a special project for me

Glad I've fascinated you so much.

Fascination is hardly the word.

 

[bucs90]

It's actually called having no real principles. For you, it's just a case of the end justifies the means. It doesn't matter to you whether something is fair or right. It only matters that you get what you want.

So let me get this right.......

- Once I vote for a party, or align myself, theres no going back? Even if my views, or the actions of that groups elected officials, change?

Is this like the Bloods/Crips gangs, where I gotta get "jumped out"??

Yeah. You started as a conservative, and switched to being an OWS parasite. Very believable.

Good God. The more right wingers jump on me, the more I'm seeing why the left hated "us"/you all for so long.

Did I say I was an Occupy Wall Streeter now? I said it very clear and simple. I have a few priorities, aside from the general support for the military, that can swing my vote:

1- Cops and firemen
2- Care for the mentally ill
3- Animal rights
4- Adequate but controlled government spending/revenue
5- Legalize weed (although I've never smoked it)

1-4 far outweigh #5, and there are a few other minor topics.

But the Tea Party no longer represents my views as well as some Democrat candidates do. Its quite simple.

And from the harsh and vulgar reactions I've gotten from the right wingers here, I dont really think I'll be changing my vote back anytime soon.

I suppose "Fuck you you pussy communist" is a far better response to me than, well, clearly explaining why I'm wrong.