Why do some people loathe Obama?

[The Rabbi]

Who loathes Obama? When have you heard the kind of petty carping criticism of Obama you used to hear about Bush?

If anything, the petty criticism I've heard of Obama has been far worse. Outside of a loon fringe, the criticisms of Bush were based on policies. You didn't have members of Congress claiming things as outlandish as the president was an illegal alien, or that he was planning to kill the elderly in their sleep.

Too bad facts are not your friends.
Jeremy Lott: Loathing of George Bush is now nearly universal | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk

America's elites do not merely disapprove of Bush. They loathe him. Back in 2003, when Bush was still basking in the reflected glory of his sun god-sized post-9/11 approval ratings, Jonathan Chait published a piece in the liberal journal the New Republic making the "case for Bush hatred". Chait objected to Bush's policies, as well as, for lack of a better term, his Texas-ness.

Chait complained about "the way he walks", "the way he talks", "his lame nickname bestowing", his good ole boyness and his social privilege. He admitted: "I suspect that, if I got to know [Bush] personally, I would hate him even more."

That personalised contempt is now widespread, and widely vented. Most criticism levelled at Oliver Stone's biopic W. had to do with disappointment that Stone hadn't really put the boot in. He had given us a tragic, comic, somewhat likeable figure. Stone's normal audience was in no mood for nuance.

More at the source....

 

[WillowTree]

Obama has proven to be an inept POTUS and unable to get any of his agenda passed yet he is, "systematically destroying America."

pissed away a trillon dollars with nothing to show for it

BS what does he have to show for it?



They came to the gov't with the tin cup in their hand. If he let them fail people like you would attack him for leaving thousands jobless.

No I wouldn't,, they going to be jobless anyway,, and that reminds me,, he said if he didn't get his trillion to piss away the unemployment would go over 8%,, well he got his trillion, pissed it away and unemployment is 1n.2%,, he's getting ready to come tell us he needs another two or three trillion.

So? So? If you don't see anything wrong with that,, you have a problem..



Health Care reform ... OOOGA BOOGA!That was intelligent.



Pure nonsense.

.. but mostly it is his broken promises

which has pissed me off ...

and unfettered spending,, like he really thinks our money grows on trees,,

One stimulus bill that he CAMPAIGNED on and an unpassed health care reform that will cost a trillion over TEN YEARS. *yawn*

I mean, you have a valid complaint or two in there but none of that adds up to, "systematically destroying America." That's pure hysterical hyperbole.

NOpe every word of it is true, the question was asked and answered.. and will be at the polls,, people don't like him, his spending, his policies, we have yet to suffer through the shams known as cap and trade, and amnesty for the illegals but we all know it is coming. The loathing is building and headed your way like a freaking train wreck.. Call it hysteria at your own risk,, There are a lot of "hysterical" people out here.

 

[Immanuel]

Who loathes Obama? When have you heard the kind of petty carping criticism of Obama you used to hear about Bush?

If anything, the petty criticism I've heard of Obama has been far worse. Outside of a loon fringe, the criticisms of Bush were based on policies. You didn't have members of Congress claiming things as outlandish as the president was an illegal alien, or that he was planning to kill the elderly in their sleep.

I think it must be in how you look at things, because most of the criticisms of Bush that I remember were that he didn't speak intelligently or he had big ears making him look like a monkey etc. There was some criticism of the war or how we got into to war, but most of it was about his lack of speaking ability.

As for President Obama, I see more of the criticism as being his politics i.e. universal heath care and the stimulus plan which is thinly veiled socialism at its worst.

Basically, I would have to say it falls to your interpretation of the criticism, because in your words, "or that he was planning to kill the elderly in their sleep", which was not the criticism at all, rather it was that his policy would lead to rationalized healthcare and some people would not receive the needed care.

Nor, do I recall anyone claiming he was an illegal alien, but rather that based upon the Constitution he was not eligible to be President.

Then again, there was plenty of criticism, much of it deserved, in how President Bush wrangled us into a war in Iraq. And whether or not we should be there which were attacks on the President's policies.

I'm not saying you are wrong about the attacks on President Obama, as much of it is childish, but so was much of the attacks on President Bush.

Note: I am speaking general public here and you did mention Congress, but I think it applies to both.

Immie

 

[WillowTree]

Who loathes Obama? When have you heard the kind of petty carping criticism of Obama you used to hear about Bush?

If anything, the petty criticism I've heard of Obama has been far worse. Outside of a loon fringe, the criticisms of Bush were based on policies. You didn't have members of Congress claiming things as outlandish as the president was an illegal alien, or that he was planning to kill the elderly in their sleep.

I think it must be in how you look at things, because most of the criticisms of Bush that I remember were that he didn't speak intelligently or he had big ears making him look like a monkey etc. There was some criticism of the war or how we got into to war, but most of it was about his lack of speaking ability.

As for President Obama, I see more of the criticism as being his politics i.e. universal heath care and the stimulus plan which is thinly veiled socialism at its worst.

Basically, I would have to say it falls to your interpretation of the criticism, because in your words, "or that he was planning to kill the elderly in their sleep", which was not the criticism at all, rather it was that his policy would lead to rationalized healthcare and some people would not receive the needed care.

Nor, do I recall anyone claiming he was an illegal alien, but rather that based upon the Constitution he was not eligible to be President.

Then again, there was plenty of criticism, much of it deserved, in how President Bush wrangled us into a war in Iraq. And whether or not we should be there which were attacks on the President's policies.

I'm not saying you are wrong about the attacks on President Obama, as much of it is childish, but so was much of the attacks on President Bush.

Note: I am speaking general public here and you did mention Congress, but I think it applies to both.

Immie

Immie,, they are going to cut 500 billion from medicare (I think that has now risen to close to 800 billion) of course the elderly are going to be denied care.

 

[Si modo]

Why would DevNell kick puppies?

 

[Article 15]

pissed away a trillon dollars with nothing to show for it

BS what does he have to show for it?



They came to the gov't with the tin cup in their hand. If he let them fail people like you would attack him for leaving thousands jobless.

No I wouldn't,, they going to be jobless anyway,, and that reminds me,, he said if he didn't get his trillion to piss away the unemployment would go over 8%,, well he got his trillion, pissed it away and unemployment is 1n.2%,, he's getting ready to come tell us he needs another two or three trillion.

So? So? If you don't see anything wrong with that,, you have a problem..



Health Care reform ... OOOGA BOOGA!That was intelligent.



Pure nonsense.



which has pissed me off ...

and unfettered spending,, like he really thinks our money grows on trees,,

One stimulus bill that he CAMPAIGNED on and an unpassed health care reform that will cost a trillion over TEN YEARS. *yawn*

I mean, you have a valid complaint or two in there but none of that adds up to, "systematically destroying America." That's pure hysterical hyperbole.

NOpe every word of it is true, the question was asked and answered.. and will be at the polls,, people don't like him, his spending, his policies, we have yet to suffer through the shams known as cap and trade, and amnesty for the illegals but we all know it is coming. The loathing is building and headed your way like a freaking train wreck.. Call it hysteria at your own risk,, There are a lot of "hysterical" people out here.

I've been saying that the Dems will be facing problems at the voting booth for months now, Willow. Pay attention.

And yes, the idea that he's "systematically destroying America" is hysteria. But pissing people (including his base) off? Absolutely.

 

[Immanuel]

If anything, the petty criticism I've heard of Obama has been far worse. Outside of a loon fringe, the criticisms of Bush were based on policies. You didn't have members of Congress claiming things as outlandish as the president was an illegal alien, or that he was planning to kill the elderly in their sleep.

I think it must be in how you look at things, because most of the criticisms of Bush that I remember were that he didn't speak intelligently or he had big ears making him look like a monkey etc. There was some criticism of the war or how we got into to war, but most of it was about his lack of speaking ability.

As for President Obama, I see more of the criticism as being his politics i.e. universal heath care and the stimulus plan which is thinly veiled socialism at its worst.

Basically, I would have to say it falls to your interpretation of the criticism, because in your words, "or that he was planning to kill the elderly in their sleep", which was not the criticism at all, rather it was that his policy would lead to rationalized healthcare and some people would not receive the needed care.

Nor, do I recall anyone claiming he was an illegal alien, but rather that based upon the Constitution he was not eligible to be President.

Then again, there was plenty of criticism, much of it deserved, in how President Bush wrangled us into a war in Iraq. And whether or not we should be there which were attacks on the President's policies.

I'm not saying you are wrong about the attacks on President Obama, as much of it is childish, but so was much of the attacks on President Bush.

Note: I am speaking general public here and you did mention Congress, but I think it applies to both.

Immie

Immie,, they are going to cut 500 billion from medicare (I think that has now risen to close to 800 billion) of course the elderly are going to be denied care.

Not to anger the elderly, but right now, that is probably the least of my worries in this debate. At the moment, I'm more worried about how I am going to provide health insurance to my family over the next 15-20 years while I am working and waiting for Medicare. I am going to be forced to pay for my own and at $1200 per month, I simply don't see how the hell, I am going to be able to afford it let alone whether or not HRC will be a major blow to many small businesses. The blow that sends many of them under, my employer included. Will I be on the unemployment lines soon because of this plan?

Immie

 

[xotoxi]

He's a black dude.

Speak for yourself, noose.

*Most* people vote issues and ablity, not skin color.

Just because *you* voted for Obama based on his skin color, doesn't mean the reat of us loathe him because of his skin color.

We loathe him because he is systematically destroying the USofA.

This coming from a woman who said she was voting for a specific candidate for mayor because she felt the candidate would stick it to blacks.

Expand, por favor. This sounds interesting.

 

[uscitizen]

On the bright side, Jimmy Carter will no longer be remembered as the worst president in US history.

Bush had already shot Carter out of that saddle.

 

[pete]

Obama has proven to be an inept POTUS and unable to get any of his agenda passed yet he is, "systematically destroying America."

pissed away a trillon dollars with nothing to show for it, bought out two major car comanies and handed them over to the unions fucked all over the bondholders in the meanwhile,, contract don't mean shit anymore,, demonized wallstreet, AIG and Bankers, in the process of demonizing Insurance,, conducts race war, class war, and economic war.. but mostly it is his broken promises and unfettered spending,, like he really thinks our money grows on trees,,

Key word OURS ...

 

[Polk]

Speak for yourself, noose.

*Most* people vote issues and ablity, not skin color.

Just because *you* voted for Obama based on his skin color, doesn't mean the reat of us loathe him because of his skin color.

We loathe him because he is systematically destroying the USofA.

This coming from a woman who said she was voting for a specific candidate for mayor because she felt the candidate would stick it to blacks.

Liar.

I never said any such thing. Please quote AND provide a link to any such post!

Oh....dickhead can't, because I never said it. Of course.

The truth means absolutely nothing to you or your hero Obama.

*sigh*

Jeny, it's like you think your post disappear into the ether after you make them.

I predict Atlanta will have its first WHITE, CONSERVATIVE, REPUBLICAN Mayor since 1973, when Maynard (fatass) Jackson began the series of incompetent boobs elected Mayor because they were black, and ONLY because they were black.

Finally, FINALLY, the people of Atlanta are beginning to see the light.

You rock Mary Norwood!

http://www.usmessageboard.com/1669525-post19.html

By the way dipshit, your Great White Hope is actually a Democrat.

 

[AllieBaba]

How on earth does that resemble what you accused her of saying?

Do you have dyslexia? Or is English just your second or third language?

 

[Polk]

Who loathes Obama? When have you heard the kind of petty carping criticism of Obama you used to hear about Bush?

If anything, the petty criticism I've heard of Obama has been far worse. Outside of a loon fringe, the criticisms of Bush were based on policies. You didn't have members of Congress claiming things as outlandish as the president was an illegal alien, or that he was planning to kill the elderly in their sleep.

I think it must be in how you look at things, because most of the criticisms of Bush that I remember were that he didn't speak intelligently or he had big ears making him look like a monkey etc. There was some criticism of the war or how we got into to war, but most of it was about his lack of speaking ability.

As for President Obama, I see more of the criticism as being his politics i.e. universal heath care and the stimulus plan which is thinly veiled socialism at its worst.

Basically, I would have to say it falls to your interpretation of the criticism, because in your words, "or that he was planning to kill the elderly in their sleep", which was not the criticism at all, rather it was that his policy would lead to rationalized healthcare and some people would not receive the needed care.

Nor, do I recall anyone claiming he was an illegal alien, but rather that based upon the Constitution he was not eligible to be President.

Then again, there was plenty of criticism, much of it deserved, in how President Bush wrangled us into a war in Iraq. And whether or not we should be there which were attacks on the President's policies.

I'm not saying you are wrong about the attacks on President Obama, as much of it is childish, but so was much of the attacks on President Bush.

Note: I am speaking general public here and you did mention Congress, but I think it applies to both.

Immie

That's completely dishonest. For starters, if government providing health insurance resulted in care being rationed to the elderly, why is that not already occurring now, since everyone over age 65 is in a government health insurance program? Also, you elevate the birthers to a level of seriousness they haven't even remotely earned. Notice that they continue the crazy crusade even after Obama's birth certificate was released to the public.

 

[Polk]

I think it must be in how you look at things, because most of the criticisms of Bush that I remember were that he didn't speak intelligently or he had big ears making him look like a monkey etc. There was some criticism of the war or how we got into to war, but most of it was about his lack of speaking ability.

As for President Obama, I see more of the criticism as being his politics i.e. universal heath care and the stimulus plan which is thinly veiled socialism at its worst.

Basically, I would have to say it falls to your interpretation of the criticism, because in your words, "or that he was planning to kill the elderly in their sleep", which was not the criticism at all, rather it was that his policy would lead to rationalized healthcare and some people would not receive the needed care.

Nor, do I recall anyone claiming he was an illegal alien, but rather that based upon the Constitution he was not eligible to be President.

Then again, there was plenty of criticism, much of it deserved, in how President Bush wrangled us into a war in Iraq. And whether or not we should be there which were attacks on the President's policies.

I'm not saying you are wrong about the attacks on President Obama, as much of it is childish, but so was much of the attacks on President Bush.

Note: I am speaking general public here and you did mention Congress, but I think it applies to both.

Immie

Immie,, they are going to cut 500 billion from medicare (I think that has now risen to close to 800 billion) of course the elderly are going to be denied care.

Not to anger the elderly, but right now, that is probably the least of my worries in this debate. At the moment, I'm more worried about how I am going to provide health insurance to my family over the next 15-20 years while I am working and waiting for Medicare. I am going to be forced to pay for my own and at $1200 per month, I simply don't see how the hell, I am going to be able to afford it let alone whether or not HRC will be a major blow to many small businesses. The blow that sends many of them under, my employer included. Will I be on the unemployment lines soon because of this plan?

Immie

You realize the Senate bill actually reduces premiums, rights?

 

[rdean]

Why do some people loathe Obama?
;/(

He's a black dude.

Speak for yourself, noose.

*Most* people vote issues and ablity, not skin color.

Just because *you* voted for Obama based on his skin color, doesn't mean the reat of us loathe him because of his skin color.

We loathe him because he is systematically destroying the USofA.

Wishful thinking.

 

[Polk]

How on earth does that resemble what you accused her of saying?

Do you have dyslexia? Or is English just your second or third language?

Uhh...

I'm saying they're finally getting wise that voting for someone *just because they're black* hasn't gotten them very far over the last 30 years, and that maybe they should look at QUALIFIED first.

Mary Norwood (who is a City Councilwoman and happens to be white) is imminently MORE qualified than the rest of the field.....and she's the front-runner.

Atlantans are tired of the same ole same ole corrupt black Democrat Mayoral regimes destroying our town.

It's time for change.....and they know it.

Besides....the black candidates here are *terrified* of a white Mayor. They're even campaigning along these lines....."If you elect Mary Norwood, you'll send us back...."

Back to what? Hmmm?

Would that bullshit be tolerated if the races were reversed? I think not.

The black Dems (specifically Lisa Borders and Kasim Reed) are the ones trying to divide the city along racial lines. NOT Mary Norwood. She has been VERY careful to stay away from that bullshit.

Mayor Norwood is going to finally turn this city around!

http://www.usmessageboard.com/1669605-post22.html

They ARE. Come live here. You'll get a lesson in anti-white hatred really quick. Within hours of landing at Hartsfield-JACKSON (which was only Hartsifeld airport until fatass Jackson died and the blacks threw a fit---they wanted to take Mayor Hartsfield name off the airport entirely--when HE was the Mayor who purchased the airport land and built the damned thing in the first place).

Atlanta is NO place for white people anymore. Blacks make sure to let us know that too. Their anti-white hatred is palpable.

You've seen "The Real Housewifes of Atlanta"? Then you've seen what I'm talking about.

Atlanta's blacks HATE whites and they make absolutely NO bones about it. None.

Come on down....experience it firsthand before you trash me for speaking up and calling them out for their racist ways.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/1669611-post25.html

Doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand the implication.

 

[xotoxi]

This coming from a woman who said she was voting for a specific candidate for mayor because she felt the candidate would stick it to blacks.

Liar.

I never said any such thing. Please quote AND provide a link to any such post!

Oh....dickhead can't, because I never said it. Of course.

The truth means absolutely nothing to you or your hero Obama.

*sigh*

Jeny, it's like you think your post disappear into the ether after you make them.

I predict Atlanta will have its first WHITE, CONSERVATIVE, REPUBLICAN Mayor since 1973, when Maynard (fatass) Jackson began the series of incompetent boobs elected Mayor because they were black, and ONLY because they were black.

Finally, FINALLY, the people of Atlanta are beginning to see the light.

You rock Mary Norwood!

http://www.usmessageboard.com/1669525-post19.html

By the way dipshit, your Great White Hope is actually a Democrat.

JenyEliza's headwear of choice:

 

[WillowTree]

I think it must be in how you look at things, because most of the criticisms of Bush that I remember were that he didn't speak intelligently or he had big ears making him look like a monkey etc. There was some criticism of the war or how we got into to war, but most of it was about his lack of speaking ability.

As for President Obama, I see more of the criticism as being his politics i.e. universal heath care and the stimulus plan which is thinly veiled socialism at its worst.

Basically, I would have to say it falls to your interpretation of the criticism, because in your words, "or that he was planning to kill the elderly in their sleep", which was not the criticism at all, rather it was that his policy would lead to rationalized healthcare and some people would not receive the needed care.

Nor, do I recall anyone claiming he was an illegal alien, but rather that based upon the Constitution he was not eligible to be President.

Then again, there was plenty of criticism, much of it deserved, in how President Bush wrangled us into a war in Iraq. And whether or not we should be there which were attacks on the President's policies.

I'm not saying you are wrong about the attacks on President Obama, as much of it is childish, but so was much of the attacks on President Bush.

Note: I am speaking general public here and you did mention Congress, but I think it applies to both.

Immie

Immie,, they are going to cut 500 billion from medicare (I think that has now risen to close to 800 billion) of course the elderly are going to be denied care.

Not to anger the elderly, but right now, that is probably the least of my worries in this debate. At the moment, I'm more worried about how I am going to provide health insurance to my family over the next 15-20 years while I am working and waiting for Medicare. I am going to be forced to pay for my own and at $1200 per month, I simply don't see how the hell, I am going to be able to afford it let alone whether or not HRC will be a major blow to many small businesses. The blow that sends many of them under, my employer included. Will I be on the unemployment lines soon because of this plan?

Immie

obama and the democrats are right about several things. The cost of insurance premiums is unsustainable, we have paid about 900/month y and in Jan. will start paying 1100/month. that includes eye care and dental. Secondly they are right in saying many small business can no longer afford to cover their employees. All of that is true, I think reform is needed, but they are going to throw the baby out with the bath water. They should start working in small steps to fix what is wrong with the Insurance industry and keep what is good. All they need to do is look at Mass. to see that the plan they propose will fail. And thirdly, they want to start collecting taxes in Jan. but not offer reform til 2013. KNow why? they want obamalama safely re elected before the shit hits the fan.

 

[Screaming Eagle]

Why do people think that racists would vote AGAINST Obama?

 

[frazzledgear]

Why do some people loathe Obama?
;/(

He's a black dude.

Oh please. You only delude yourself if you want to believe that one. FAR more likely that people did not expect the kinds of bad decisions Obama has been making -and with each one people just get angrier and angrier about it. Like deciding to reject Khalid Sheik Mohammed's guilty plea he agreed to plead to for a military tribunal and instead bring him to NY and turn our justice system into a fucking freak sideshow. The overwhelming majority of people not only oppose that -they are pissed off about it. These kinds of decisions do not promote warm fuzzy feelings towards those who couldn't care less what the American people want and intend to ram down our throats what THEY want.

Or maybe its because people did not realize they were electing a Marxist who intended to appoint people as czars because they couldn't pass the FBI background check or EVER get approved even by this Senate -all so he could keep his Marxist, Mao loving, self-proclaimed communist revolutionary buddies nearby for the "best" advice, huh? Doesn't the man trust anyone who admires OUR system instead of an historically known failure considered to be responsible for more deaths around the world than the number killed in the Holocaust? Or maybe its because of all his appointees, less than 10% ever had a REAL JOB, ever worked in the private sector or ever knew what it was like to try and meet payroll! Which makes it a whole lot easier to just decide those who DO are the cause of all our ills which is bullshit but typical communist thinking. Maybe they weren't expecting Obama and a Democrat Congress to do all they can to put the feet of this nation on the path to bankruptcy and committing such horrific generational theft the parents of those who will be expected to pay this outrageous bill haven't even been born yet. Or maybe they are finally sick and tired of hearing Obama and Democrats beating that same dead horse trying to fuel the flames of useless class envy -always insisting the real enemies of this country are FELLOW AMERICANS. As if it isn't their country too! Think any of that might have something to do with it?

Even then I don't really hear LOATHING toward Obama personally -and in fact his approval ratings, while they have seriously dropped, are NOWHERE near as dismal as those of Congress. He is still an attractive man and speaker even while proving to us all he is a very weak leader on the world stage even while taking a sharp left domestically when this country is NOT leftist but center RIGHT. That makes the majority, who are center right -hacked off too. A full 40% identify themselves as CONSERVATIVE while only 20% are liberals. Who do you think would be most unhappy about a government that has gone far left wing extremist in direction then? The majority or the minority?

A whole lot of people are really, really angry at Congress which seems to be totally DEAF to the American people. So I hear a lot of anger about the direction this country has taken, toward the lying ass weasels in Congress trying to dupe the American people into a "health care reform" bill that has nothing to do with health, care or reform and is entirely about the biggest expansion of government and the most massive power grab by our government in our history that will do nothing to fix health care and only make it worse. In exchange for being totally fucked over by our own government and ignored by those elected to carry out OUR will and not their own even as they LIE to us about the REAL costs - we WILL forfeit very real freedoms as our government moves closer to a totalitarian state. But I don't hear personal LOATHING towards Obama about all that as opposed to anger about many of his decisions -and FAR more anger and outright hostility towards Congress.

I know why people like you reject legitimate arguments about why people might be upset, concerned or outright angry about what Obama is doing. People like you voted for Obama BECAUSE he's black and you figure at least as many voted against for the same reason. You liberals never understood his race was never part of the equation for most conservatives because his left wing extremist politics already ruled him out for a whole lot of people. If you knew he was an admirer of Marx and a true believer that the proper role of government was to impose "social justice" which is just communist code for "redistribution of the wealth" - would it have mattered to your vote? Or was it still far more important to you to vote for a man for no real reason except his skin color -one of THE most racist and superficial reasons to ever vote for or against anyone. It is a FACT that most Obama voters were IGNORANT about this man's positions and history -while those who did not vote for him were far more knowledgeable about him. They wouldn't do that if his skin color was enough reason to not vote for him. Which means it wasn't his skin color that put them off -but his POLITICS. And his politics still do put them off -not his skin color.

Since your answer was such a lame one, I suspect you were one of many who voted for Obama BECAUSE he was black. Which means it was YOU who made the really dumb ass decision to cast your vote for the most meaningless and superficial of reasons of skin color. Not those who have EVERY reason to be unhappy about what Obama is doing.