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I've been arguing for the Constitution since I first learned and understood about it.
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Thank God!
We can all sleep a little bit better tonight knowing you are standing guard over us.
Who wants to be first to post a quote of Dante saying 'what'?Only a Liberal prick like Dante would post the non thinking shallow crap he places on this board.
douchebagh says what?
You need to get life....
I've been arguing for the Constitution since I first learned and understood about it.
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Thank God!
We can all sleep a little bit better tonight knowing you are standing guard over us.
Mock if you want, but it's something I care about deeply. I like freedom. I dont really care what you think of that. And I'm sure not going to be intimidate by you.
☭proletarian☭;2057395 said:Who wants to be first to post a quote of Dante saying 'what'?Only a Liberal prick like Dante would post the non thinking shallow crap he places on this board.
douchebagh says what?
what?what?
Why don't you get off your computer and go down to the Post Office and salute the flag.
gawd, the idiocy these hyper patriots spout.
You have earned yourself the idiot crown, Dante.
Possibly the same reason communists hide behind the terms "liberal" and "progressive"?Why are reactionaries allowed to hide behind the label "conservative"?
Door swings both ways, Bubba....Careful you don't get bashed on the nose with it.
What a bunch of bogus straw man questions. They don't deserve the dignity of a response - they are just "when did you stop beating your wife" accusations.
I don't think they're strawmen, I mean this one - Why do Conservatives hate organized labor? Is it because the Conservatives don't want labor protected? Is it because Conservatives see labor as a commodity? One that should respond to market forces like supply and demand? - is a good question. However it's a closed question which limits its usefulness, I'll concede that. But conservatives and reactionaries do hate organised labour and they want it dismantled and they want to see workers exposed to the twin laws of supply and demand because they believe that's how things should be.
then why are many conservatives in labor unions?......maybe you should say ....some conservatives....dont be like Rdean Di and blanket everybody for the actions of a few....i belong to a labor Union that is estimated to be 35-40% republican....
Yep, my union would be 98% conservative - there's me and three other blokes who aren't
I think it's not really about politics Harry - unions, because of their ability to organise workers and then to collectively bargain with employers, are a threat to employers because they will bargain wages to a level that employers don't like. There may well be some ideologues who want unions ouf the of the way because they want to see individual workers bargain by themselves, but I think mostly it's a more pragmatic approach.
Yep, my union would be 98% conservative - there's me and three other blokes who aren't
I think it's not really about politics Harry - unions, because of their ability to organise workers and then to collectively bargain with employers, are a threat to employers because they will bargain wages to a level that employers don't like. There may well be some ideologues who want unions ouf the of the way because they want to see individual workers bargain by themselves, but I think mostly it's a more pragmatic approach.
Except for Public Employee Unions. They don't negotiate with those of us who pay the bills. Instead, they collude with our elected representatives who feed off of the same benefit plan - and are paid off with campaign donations by the unions. It's a rigged game.
Yep, my union would be 98% conservative - there's me and three other blokes who aren't
I think it's not really about politics Harry - unions, because of their ability to organise workers and then to collectively bargain with employers, are a threat to employers because they will bargain wages to a level that employers don't like. There may well be some ideologues who want unions ouf the of the way because they want to see individual workers bargain by themselves, but I think mostly it's a more pragmatic approach.
Except for Public Employee Unions. They don't negotiate with those of us who pay the bills. Instead, they collude with our elected representatives who feed off of the same benefit plan - and are paid off with campaign donations by the unions. It's a rigged game.
I'm in a public sector union. I pay taxes that, among other things, fund my direct employer. I don't know what it's like where you are but I know, from personal experience as a negotiator, that there's no collusion when we go head to head with the state government, it's gloves off and into it!
Since when has organized labor actually done any labor? I think thats the problem. They want people to get paid for doing absolutely nothing. Then they bully, intimidate, threaten, extort and engage in other activities that in any other circumstances would put them in jail for 5-10 years.
BTW Conservatives dont hate anything. We are just tired of special interests groups trying to remake our Republic into something else.
What a batch of lies.
You people are the lackies of the special interest groups.
ACLU: Saved that hemorrhoid asshole Rush Limbaugh, who btw had no scruples accepting the socialist defenders when his fat white ass was on the line.
when are they going to come forward and defend the 2nd amendment?......
does it need defending?
Why do Conservatives hate organized labor? Is it because the Conservatives don't want labor protected? Is it because Conservatives see labor as a commodity? One that should respond to market forces like supply and demand?
Why do conservatives hate civil liberties? Is it because the Conservatives see civil liberties as a hindrance to commerce (I believe commerce is all that really matters to a Conservative)? Is it because Conservatives feel too much freedom is a dangerous thing?
Why do Conservatives hate economically disadvantaged people? They seem to get worked up about unemployment benefits. They seem to have utter contempt for the poor.
Why do Conservatives hate environmentalism? Can it be that Conservatism demands pollution? Again, I believe that as commerce is the single most important thing to Conservatives. Anything that may hinder commerce from doing whatever the hell it wants has to be bad by default.
I know I'm going to take heat for a thread that picks at so many scabs, but these are the issues which seem to divide this country most politically. If some Conservatives want to answer these and other questions honestly, I'd appreciate it.
Too funny seeing lefties liberals talking about others who don't think like them as being, HATE.
If there ain't a profit in it, Conservatives ain't buyin'!
Oh yeah the evil profit word as if there are no liberal companies that have ever made a profit. Michael Moore is the left's poster boy for hypocrisy when it comes to making a profit as he has made millions.
You simply cannot use a broad brush defining conservatives just as the same is true for liberals. There are far right and left loons that seem to get all the press so they become the mainstream on both sides.
Too funny seeing lefties liberals talking about others who don't think like them as being, HATE.
If there ain't a profit in it, Conservatives ain't buyin'!
Oh yeah the evil profit word as if there are no liberal companies that have ever made a profit. Michael Moore is the left's poster boy for hypocrisy when it comes to making a profit as he has made millions.
You simply cannot use a broad brush defining conservatives just as the same is true for liberals. There are far right and left loons that seem to get all the press so they become the mainstream on both sides.
It appears to ME on the surface that *YOU* confuse REPUBLICANS with TRUE Conservatives. They are NOT synominous. Lern this lesson... Many Republicans are in fact MODERATES, and therfore labeled "REPUBICANS"...and NOT worhty of the Republican Moniker.
I don't hate it. I see it as the buggy whip of employment. It is no longer needed (except in extreme cases, maybe).Why do Conservatives hate organized labor? ....
No job should be protected from the market any more than any other job..... Is it because the Conservatives don't want labor protected? ....
Yes..... Is it because Conservatives see labor as a commodity? One that should respond to market forces like supply and demand? ....
That is a huge strawman so let's just assasinate that right now. I don't..... Why do conservatives hate civil liberties? ....
As I don't hate civil liberties (what a ridiculous thought, by the way), this question is nonapplicable, as strawmen are..... Is it because the Conservatives see civil liberties as a hindrance to commerce (I believe commerce is all that really matters to a Conservative)? ....
Ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous. I don't hate civil liberties so there is no reason to even address this ridiculous idea..... Is it because Conservatives feel too much freedom is a dangerous thing? ....
Strawman. So, here we go: I don't hate economically disadvantaged people. Now what?.... Why do Conservatives hate economically disadvantaged people? ....
I don't get worked up about unemployment benefits. Ideally, we shouldn't have any of those benefits. But, we have them and the pragmatic view is to realize that they are not going away ever. That is political suicide..... They seem to get worked up about unemployment benefits. ....
As I'm typing here, I am stunned at how completely out of touch one must be to even ask such a question, but I'm hoping you are being sincere. Anyway, this is the same question as two questions ago. I don't have utter contempt for the poor. In fact, conservatives donate more to charities that help the poor than do liberals. Go figure why one would think conservatives have utter contempt for the poor..... They seem to have utter contempt for the poor. ....
If it's honest, I don't hate it. Even if it's dishonest, I don't hate it..... Why do Conservatives hate environmentalism? ....
I don't hate honest environmentalism. If it's dishonest, the better question would be cui bono from the rhetoric..... Can it be that Conservatism demands pollution? ....
I don't hate honest environmentalism so your question is based on a strawman. I dislike dishonest environmentalism and THAT is a dishonest way to make money - make legislation under the guise of an environmental issue - and is artificial. It often exploits honest brokers in the market it affects, too..... Again, I believe that as commerce is the single most important thing to Conservatives. Anything that may hinder commerce from doing whatever the hell it wants has to be bad by default. ....
A lot of those scabs don't even exist. You made them up..... I know I'm going to take heat for a thread that picks at so many scabs, ....
I tend to agree that they are dividing issues. But, I believe they would not be so divisive if liberals would bother to listen to conservatives' views rather than to make them up for conservatives..... but these are the issues which seem to divide this country most politically. ....
I applaud your effort to understand a political conservative. I hope you are sincere and I hope you and other liberals actually listen..... If some Conservatives want to answer these and other questions honestly, I'd appreciate it.
