Why Conservatives hate education

[occupied]

Many Trump supporters and Conservatives are less educated than most...and damn proud of it! Celebrating one's dumbness is a badge of honor for them, but why?? The answer can be found way back in the 70's during the reign of Republican Richard Nixon. In a Woody Allen film a beautiful WASPish woman was asked why she thought Mr. Allen (Character name Fielding Mellish) was a traitor to our country, she replied:

"I think Mr. Mellish is a traitor to our country because his views differ from those of the President and his kind, differences of opinion should be tolerated, but not when they're too different, then he becomes... a subversive mother!

Education forces us to consider diverse points of view, too look at things from the perspective of others. Education encourages us to think outside the box, and to seek new solutions, and expand our boundaries of understanding. This stands in stark contrast to the Conservative agenda, which tells us in little bumper sticker slogans that "we're right, and they're wrong!" "We're superior and they're inferior" "We're strong, and they're weak"

History is full of Conservative thinkers who (with the full backing of the church) taught the earth was the center of the universe, the earth was flat, many women were witches, and must be burned, the study of the stars and human autonomy, and other fields of science were the devils works, and the list goes on-

In my 64 years of walking this old rock called planet earth I've learned: Ignorance = Fear. It's fear that tells Conservatives that waves of evil foreigners are invading our great nation from the southern border and spreading violence and disease. It's fear that tells Conservatives they have to own a gun, or they'll be attacked at any minute, it's fear that tells Conservatives our universities are spreading the doctrine of socialism and liberalism, which undermine the values of our fine Christian nation...just like it's fear that makes Conservatives clutch their little bibles, and believe with all their Christian souls, that Donald J Trump is going to build a great, big beautiful, and MEXICO is going to pay for it.

I feel so sorry for these folks, though their intentions are good, they're blindly placing their trust in a man who doesn't give a shit about them at all....

TRANSLATION

Education forces children to look at the Progressive point of view, that the Founding Fathers were slave owners, committed genocide to the American Indian, and therefore, should be replaced with Karl Marx because the Constitution must then be crap. No need to mention how the Founding Fathers rightly feared democracy and mob rule. In fact, let's falsely reiterate time and time and time again in class how the US is a Democracy, when in fact, it is a Republic. Then ignore how the Progressives seek to do such things as do away with the Electoral College to turn more and more to a pure democracy and mob rule. Ignore how Progressives have centralized government to the point that the Federal government now has ultimate control over the states, something the Founders feared would happen as they chose the model of Federalism instead and gave the Federal government limited powers. And NEVER teach children about the Fifth Amendment, which gives states the right to amend the Constitution instead of the Federal government. It has never been done and must never be done to curb the power and influence of the Federal government. And when people refer to it, just call it crazy and say if they try we will end up losing all our rights if we let them. Then point to the racism against the black man that once was used to justify the slavery of blacks, while ignoring the fact that these same white folks turned against it all because of the very Constitution that Progressives disdain. Yes, the racist white man was divided on the issue and fought his brother to the death to do away with it. But how could this be?

While we are at it, let us completely ignore the history of how all centralized governments devolve into war provoking dictatorships and how socialism/communism contributed to this. To start, the NAZI regime will not be referred to as socialists, even though they self identified as such and adhered to socialist policies, hated capitalism, and heavily taxed the top 4%. Let's ignore the fact that the Nazi regime was more concerned about the environment and animal rights than human beings they targeted through identity politics to destroy, like the unborn children of today. Yes, let's refer to the Nazi regime as a right wing hate group because they are fascist and fascist now means right wing cuz we say so. Funny how the Foundering Fathers were not fascists yet they are put in the same arena as the Jew hating fascists of the right today. Yep, communist left, Nazi to the right even though both communist and Nazi regimes were socialist and collectivist utopias.

Let's continue to use class time to pull children from the class room and drag them out into the streets to protest gun rights, instead of teaching them about the Second Amendment and gun rights in the class room. Never mind that the Founding Fathers favored gun rights, even Gandhi favored gun rights, as all fascist and communist regimes in history sought to take guns away from the populace. Ignore the fact that Obama and Holder ran guns across the border to give to drug cartels, which ended up in zero arrests and many, many, innocent murders, while in the same breath touting the need to take guns from law abiding Americans. Then act as though the Trump regime is criminal while Eric Holder was the only AG in US history to be held in contempt of Congress over the gun running scheme.

Let's strip morality from the class rooms and wonder why children bring guns into the class room to shoot the place up, turn to drugs, and watch in horror as amoral human beings are empowered via education to wreak havoc upon society in various ways.

Then to finish them all off, let's tell children that science is better than religion. Let's tell them that history shows that the church attacked science, burned scientists at the stake for their findings, and believe in fables that contradict science while ignoring the fact that this all occurred under oppressive centralized governments, which was the true culprit. Fables such as the Garden of Eden should be ridiculed because we all know that our origins are in evolution, after all, science tells us this. Yes, ignore the story of a man and a woman told not to eat of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil because they will surely die if they do. Now why do you suppose that the tree was called the tree of knowledge of good and evil? Could it be that the message here is, knowledge without wisdom brings death? Could it be that science, not the Bible, is at the heart of all our ills today? Could they be as blind not to see that such issues as global warming, the threat of WMD's, over population, non-reproducing vegetation that is slowly overtaking those that reproduce naturally, AI and all it's future threats, are because of having knowledge without wisdom? Why is such knowledge stands on the verge of destroying all of mankind while religion continues to be blamed?

Well to hell with them all!! Promote abortion to limit their numbers, run wreak less deficits so that future generations have no real future at all, and then medicate them by legalizing as many illicit drugs as humanly possible, while allowing them to continue to flow into the country that has no border security.

I can understand being frightened of the future but who are we to decide what knowledge our descendants will need and what will be superfluous long after we are dead? In the end all you can do is to give them the broadest view of the world possible and hope they will make the right choices. One thing is certain: The pace of change is accelerating and educating Americans to find change a bewildering overwhelming process is grave disservice.

 

[Crixus]

Many Trump supporters and Conservatives are less educated than most...and damn proud of it! Celebrating one's dumbness is a badge of honor for them, but why?? The answer can be found way back in the 70's during the reign of Republican Richard Nixon. In a Woody Allen film a beautiful WASPish woman was asked why she thought Mr. Allen (Character name Fielding Mellish) was a traitor to our country, she replied:

"I think Mr. Mellish is a traitor to our country because his views differ from those of the President and his kind, differences of opinion should be tolerated, but not when they're too different, then he becomes... a subversive mother!

Education forces us to consider diverse points of view, too look at things from the perspective of others. Education encourages us to think outside the box, and to seek new solutions, and expand our boundaries of understanding. This stands in stark contrast to the Conservative agenda, which tells us in little bumper sticker slogans that "we're right, and they're wrong!" "We're superior and they're inferior" "We're strong, and they're weak"

History is full of Conservative thinkers who (with the full backing of the church) taught the earth was the center of the universe, the earth was flat, many women were witches, and must be burned, the study of the stars and human autonomy, and other fields of science were the devils works, and the list goes on-

In my 64 years of walking this old rock called planet earth I've learned: Ignorance = Fear. It's fear that tells Conservatives that waves of evil foreigners are invading our great nation from the southern border and spreading violence and disease. It's fear that tells Conservatives they have to own a gun, or they'll be attacked at any minute, it's fear that tells Conservatives our universities are spreading the doctrine of socialism and liberalism, which undermine the values of our fine Christian nation...just like it's fear that makes Conservatives clutch their little bibles, and believe with all their Christian souls, that Donald J Trump is going to build a great, big beautiful, and MEXICO is going to pay for it.

I feel so sorry for these folks, though their intentions are good, they're blindly placing their trust in a man who doesn't give a shit about them at all....

Yet all the dumb welfare kids come out of democrat run cities.

 

[Votto]

Many Trump supporters and Conservatives are less educated than most...and damn proud of it! Celebrating one's dumbness is a badge of honor for them, but why?? The answer can be found way back in the 70's during the reign of Republican Richard Nixon. In a Woody Allen film a beautiful WASPish woman was asked why she thought Mr. Allen (Character name Fielding Mellish) was a traitor to our country, she replied:

"I think Mr. Mellish is a traitor to our country because his views differ from those of the President and his kind, differences of opinion should be tolerated, but not when they're too different, then he becomes... a subversive mother!

Education forces us to consider diverse points of view, too look at things from the perspective of others. Education encourages us to think outside the box, and to seek new solutions, and expand our boundaries of understanding. This stands in stark contrast to the Conservative agenda, which tells us in little bumper sticker slogans that "we're right, and they're wrong!" "We're superior and they're inferior" "We're strong, and they're weak"

History is full of Conservative thinkers who (with the full backing of the church) taught the earth was the center of the universe, the earth was flat, many women were witches, and must be burned, the study of the stars and human autonomy, and other fields of science were the devils works, and the list goes on-

In my 64 years of walking this old rock called planet earth I've learned: Ignorance = Fear. It's fear that tells Conservatives that waves of evil foreigners are invading our great nation from the southern border and spreading violence and disease. It's fear that tells Conservatives they have to own a gun, or they'll be attacked at any minute, it's fear that tells Conservatives our universities are spreading the doctrine of socialism and liberalism, which undermine the values of our fine Christian nation...just like it's fear that makes Conservatives clutch their little bibles, and believe with all their Christian souls, that Donald J Trump is going to build a great, big beautiful, and MEXICO is going to pay for it.

I feel so sorry for these folks, though their intentions are good, they're blindly placing their trust in a man who doesn't give a shit about them at all....

TRANSLATION

Education forces children to look at the Progressive point of view, that the Founding Fathers were slave owners, committed genocide to the American Indian, and therefore, should be replaced with Karl Marx because the Constitution must then be crap. No need to mention how the Founding Fathers rightly feared democracy and mob rule. In fact, let's falsely reiterate time and time and time again in class how the US is a Democracy, when in fact, it is a Republic. Then ignore how the Progressives seek to do such things as do away with the Electoral College to turn more and more to a pure democracy and mob rule. Ignore how Progressives have centralized government to the point that the Federal government now has ultimate control over the states, something the Founders feared would happen as they chose the model of Federalism instead and gave the Federal government limited powers. And NEVER teach children about the Fifth Amendment, which gives states the right to amend the Constitution instead of the Federal government. It has never been done and must never be done to curb the power and influence of the Federal government. And when people refer to it, just call it crazy and say if they try we will end up losing all our rights if we let them. Then point to the racism against the black man that once was used to justify the slavery of blacks, while ignoring the fact that these same white folks turned against it all because of the very Constitution that Progressives disdain. Yes, the racist white man was divided on the issue and fought his brother to the death to do away with it. But how could this be?

While we are at it, let us completely ignore the history of how all centralized governments devolve into war provoking dictatorships and how socialism/communism contributed to this. To start, the NAZI regime will not be referred to as socialists, even though they self identified as such and adhered to socialist policies, hated capitalism, and heavily taxed the top 4%. Let's ignore the fact that the Nazi regime was more concerned about the environment and animal rights than human beings they targeted through identity politics to destroy, like the unborn children of today. Yes, let's refer to the Nazi regime as a right wing hate group because they are fascist and fascist now means right wing cuz we say so. Funny how the Foundering Fathers were not fascists yet they are put in the same arena as the Jew hating fascists of the right today. Yep, communist left, Nazi to the right even though both communist and Nazi regimes were socialist and collectivist utopias.

Let's continue to use class time to pull children from the class room and drag them out into the streets to protest gun rights, instead of teaching them about the Second Amendment and gun rights in the class room. Never mind that the Founding Fathers favored gun rights, even Gandhi favored gun rights, as all fascist and communist regimes in history sought to take guns away from the populace. Ignore the fact that Obama and Holder ran guns across the border to give to drug cartels, which ended up in zero arrests and many, many, innocent murders, while in the same breath touting the need to take guns from law abiding Americans. Then act as though the Trump regime is criminal while Eric Holder was the only AG in US history to be held in contempt of Congress over the gun running scheme.

Let's strip morality from the class rooms and wonder why children bring guns into the class room to shoot the place up, turn to drugs, and watch in horror as amoral human beings are empowered via education to wreak havoc upon society in various ways.

Then to finish them all off, let's tell children that science is better than religion. Let's tell them that history shows that the church attacked science, burned scientists at the stake for their findings, and believe in fables that contradict science while ignoring the fact that this all occurred under oppressive centralized governments, which was the true culprit. Fables such as the Garden of Eden should be ridiculed because we all know that our origins are in evolution, after all, science tells us this. Yes, ignore the story of a man and a woman told not to eat of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil because they will surely die if they do. Now why do you suppose that the tree was called the tree of knowledge of good and evil? Could it be that the message here is, knowledge without wisdom brings death? Could it be that science, not the Bible, is at the heart of all our ills today? Could they be as blind not to see that such issues as global warming, the threat of WMD's, over population, non-reproducing vegetation that is slowly overtaking those that reproduce naturally, AI and all it's future threats, are because of having knowledge without wisdom? Why is such knowledge stands on the verge of destroying all of mankind while religion continues to be blamed?

Well to hell with them all!! Promote abortion to limit their numbers, run wreak less deficits so that future generations have no real future at all, and then medicate them by legalizing as many illicit drugs as humanly possible, while allowing them to continue to flow into the country that has no border security.

I can understand being frightened of the future but who are we to decide what knowledge our descendants will need and what will be superfluous long after we are dead? In the end all you can do is to give them the broadest view of the world possible and hope they will make the right choices. One thing is certain: the pace of change is accelerating and educating Americans to find change a bewildering overwhelming process is grave disservice.

I would say that the most grave of disservice is to empower amoral children with knowledge and then blame religion for all our ills.

Educate yourself. Read a little of Ben Franklin

In these sentiments, Sir, I agree to this Constitution with all its faults, if they are such; because I think a general Government necessary for us, and there is no form of Government but what may be a blessing to the people if well administered, and believe farther that this is likely to be well administered for a course of years, and can only end in Despotism, as other forms have done before it, when the people shall become so corrupted as to need despotic Government, being incapable of any other.

 

[GreenAndBlue]

White Christianity brought the world out of the misery of the Stone Age

Progress comes from the wise white males

Educators today covers up science and will become big losers

Abortion is a prime example how educators lies on science

 

[RealDave]

It’s not education conservatives hate. It’s indoctrination. One is learning concepts and supporting facts. The other is learning concepts in spite of the facts. Conservatives would rather spend less time learning falsehoods and more time learning facts.


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Bull, shit. Limbaugh, Beck, Coulter Fox, Infowarts and Trump indoctrinate you every fucking day & you love it

 

[Votto]

White Christianity brought the world out of the misery of the Stone Age

Progress comes from the wise white males

Educators today covers up science and will become big losers

Abortion is a prime example how educators lies on science

Funny how death is measured by medical doctors when a heart stops, but life does not begin when a heart starts beating.

Funny that.

 

[Votto]

It’s not education conservatives hate. It’s indoctrination. One is learning concepts and supporting facts. The other is learning concepts in spite of the facts. Conservatives would rather spend less time learning falsehoods and more time learning facts.


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Bull, shit. Limbaugh, Beck, Coulter Fox, Infowarts and Trump indoctrinate you every fucking day & you love it

There are no unbiased news sources.

NONE.

Get a life.

 

[RealDave]

White Christianity brought the world out of the misery of the Stone Age

Progress comes from the wise white males

Educators today covers up science and will become big losers

Abortion is a prime example how educators lies on science

Funny how death is measured by medical doctors when a heart stops, but life does not begin when a heart starts beating.

Funny that.

Funny, how hearts are restarted all the time. Death is brain death.

 

[Crepitus]

Funny how so many of the comments here confirm the op.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

Total false narrative. Many, if not most, conservatives are very well educated, and respect, and promote education. However, our Educational System K through University has been hijacked by Far Left Progressive radicals. Most of us had to hold our nose, and take the attempted indoctrination to attain the undergrad and grad degrees we wanted for our careers. I witnessed it personally. The leftist bias was obvious, and OPPRESSIVE. Neither tolerant nor "inclusive".

Conservatives like money, and success. The only way to get that is through education.

Let me say that I'm not on either side of the argument. Just want an honest answer here:

If conservatives are so well educated, how is it they continue to adopt the left's socialism and work harder to legislate it than the left does? Adding insult to injury, conservatives end up doing the bidding of the left and are more fanatical in the promotion of bad ideas... even when it's being pointed out to them.

 

[Votto]

White Christianity brought the world out of the misery of the Stone Age

Progress comes from the wise white males

Educators today covers up science and will become big losers

Abortion is a prime example how educators lies on science

Funny how death is measured by medical doctors when a heart stops, but life does not begin when a heart starts beating.

Funny that.

Funny, how hearts are restarted all the time. Death is brain death.

A fetus is brain dead? Funny that.

I don't know of anyone who had "the plug" pulled from their life support whose brain function was due to return.

Do you?

 

[occupied]

Many Trump supporters and Conservatives are less educated than most...and damn proud of it! Celebrating one's dumbness is a badge of honor for them, but why?? The answer can be found way back in the 70's during the reign of Republican Richard Nixon. In a Woody Allen film a beautiful WASPish woman was asked why she thought Mr. Allen (Character name Fielding Mellish) was a traitor to our country, she replied:

"I think Mr. Mellish is a traitor to our country because his views differ from those of the President and his kind, differences of opinion should be tolerated, but not when they're too different, then he becomes... a subversive mother!

Education forces us to consider diverse points of view, too look at things from the perspective of others. Education encourages us to think outside the box, and to seek new solutions, and expand our boundaries of understanding. This stands in stark contrast to the Conservative agenda, which tells us in little bumper sticker slogans that "we're right, and they're wrong!" "We're superior and they're inferior" "We're strong, and they're weak"

History is full of Conservative thinkers who (with the full backing of the church) taught the earth was the center of the universe, the earth was flat, many women were witches, and must be burned, the study of the stars and human autonomy, and other fields of science were the devils works, and the list goes on-

In my 64 years of walking this old rock called planet earth I've learned: Ignorance = Fear. It's fear that tells Conservatives that waves of evil foreigners are invading our great nation from the southern border and spreading violence and disease. It's fear that tells Conservatives they have to own a gun, or they'll be attacked at any minute, it's fear that tells Conservatives our universities are spreading the doctrine of socialism and liberalism, which undermine the values of our fine Christian nation...just like it's fear that makes Conservatives clutch their little bibles, and believe with all their Christian souls, that Donald J Trump is going to build a great, big beautiful, and MEXICO is going to pay for it.

I feel so sorry for these folks, though their intentions are good, they're blindly placing their trust in a man who doesn't give a shit about them at all....

TRANSLATION

Education forces children to look at the Progressive point of view, that the Founding Fathers were slave owners, committed genocide to the American Indian, and therefore, should be replaced with Karl Marx because the Constitution must then be crap. No need to mention how the Founding Fathers rightly feared democracy and mob rule. In fact, let's falsely reiterate time and time and time again in class how the US is a Democracy, when in fact, it is a Republic. Then ignore how the Progressives seek to do such things as do away with the Electoral College to turn more and more to a pure democracy and mob rule. Ignore how Progressives have centralized government to the point that the Federal government now has ultimate control over the states, something the Founders feared would happen as they chose the model of Federalism instead and gave the Federal government limited powers. And NEVER teach children about the Fifth Amendment, which gives states the right to amend the Constitution instead of the Federal government. It has never been done and must never be done to curb the power and influence of the Federal government. And when people refer to it, just call it crazy and say if they try we will end up losing all our rights if we let them. Then point to the racism against the black man that once was used to justify the slavery of blacks, while ignoring the fact that these same white folks turned against it all because of the very Constitution that Progressives disdain. Yes, the racist white man was divided on the issue and fought his brother to the death to do away with it. But how could this be?

While we are at it, let us completely ignore the history of how all centralized governments devolve into war provoking dictatorships and how socialism/communism contributed to this. To start, the NAZI regime will not be referred to as socialists, even though they self identified as such and adhered to socialist policies, hated capitalism, and heavily taxed the top 4%. Let's ignore the fact that the Nazi regime was more concerned about the environment and animal rights than human beings they targeted through identity politics to destroy, like the unborn children of today. Yes, let's refer to the Nazi regime as a right wing hate group because they are fascist and fascist now means right wing cuz we say so. Funny how the Foundering Fathers were not fascists yet they are put in the same arena as the Jew hating fascists of the right today. Yep, communist left, Nazi to the right even though both communist and Nazi regimes were socialist and collectivist utopias.

Let's continue to use class time to pull children from the class room and drag them out into the streets to protest gun rights, instead of teaching them about the Second Amendment and gun rights in the class room. Never mind that the Founding Fathers favored gun rights, even Gandhi favored gun rights, as all fascist and communist regimes in history sought to take guns away from the populace. Ignore the fact that Obama and Holder ran guns across the border to give to drug cartels, which ended up in zero arrests and many, many, innocent murders, while in the same breath touting the need to take guns from law abiding Americans. Then act as though the Trump regime is criminal while Eric Holder was the only AG in US history to be held in contempt of Congress over the gun running scheme.

Let's strip morality from the class rooms and wonder why children bring guns into the class room to shoot the place up, turn to drugs, and watch in horror as amoral human beings are empowered via education to wreak havoc upon society in various ways.

Then to finish them all off, let's tell children that science is better than religion. Let's tell them that history shows that the church attacked science, burned scientists at the stake for their findings, and believe in fables that contradict science while ignoring the fact that this all occurred under oppressive centralized governments, which was the true culprit. Fables such as the Garden of Eden should be ridiculed because we all know that our origins are in evolution, after all, science tells us this. Yes, ignore the story of a man and a woman told not to eat of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil because they will surely die if they do. Now why do you suppose that the tree was called the tree of knowledge of good and evil? Could it be that the message here is, knowledge without wisdom brings death? Could it be that science, not the Bible, is at the heart of all our ills today? Could they be as blind not to see that such issues as global warming, the threat of WMD's, over population, non-reproducing vegetation that is slowly overtaking those that reproduce naturally, AI and all it's future threats, are because of having knowledge without wisdom? Why is such knowledge stands on the verge of destroying all of mankind while religion continues to be blamed?

Well to hell with them all!! Promote abortion to limit their numbers, run wreak less deficits so that future generations have no real future at all, and then medicate them by legalizing as many illicit drugs as humanly possible, while allowing them to continue to flow into the country that has no border security.

I can understand being frightened of the future but who are we to decide what knowledge our descendants will need and what will be superfluous long after we are dead? In the end all you can do is to give them the broadest view of the world possible and hope they will make the right choices. One thing is certain: the pace of change is accelerating and educating Americans to find change a bewildering overwhelming process is grave disservice.

I would say that the most grave of disservice is to empower amoral children with knowledge and then blame religion for all our ills.

Religious types exercising secular power are their own worst enemy. The ability to question everything and accept nothing is an extraordinarily valuable skill these days. If this means that people are less willing to accept things on faith alone what we know as religion is an acceptable loss.

 

[Votto]

Total false narrative. Many, if not most, conservatives are very well educated, and respect, and promote education. However, our Educational System K through University has been hijacked by Far Left Progressive radicals. Most of us had to hold our nose, and take the attempted indoctrination to attain the undergrad and grad degrees we wanted for our careers. I witnessed it personally. The leftist bias was obvious, and OPPRESSIVE. Neither tolerant nor "inclusive".

Conservatives like money, and success. The only way to get that is through education.

Let me say that I'm not on either side of the argument. Just want an honest answer here:

If conservatives are so well educated, how is it they continue to adopt the left's socialism and work harder to legislate it than the left does? Adding insult to injury, conservatives end up doing the bidding of the left and are more fanatical in the promotion of bad ideas... even when it's being pointed out to them.

Conservatives? Who are these "conservatives"?

You have someone run with an "R" by their name and say they are for a single conservative idea and they are proclaimed conservative.

Reminds me of a scene in the comedy "Naked Gun".

You have an opera singer tied up an gagged as he was due to sing the national anthem at a baseball game. Some other guy assumed his identity and went out to sing horribly with his name plastered down below as he sung. He is watching all this on TV as all he can do is bang his head against the wall as his reputation is shattered.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Many Trump supporters and Conservatives are less educated than most...and damn proud of it! Celebrating one's dumbness is a badge of honor for them, but why?? The answer can be found way back in the 70's during the reign of Republican Richard Nixon. In a Woody Allen film a beautiful WASPish woman was asked why she thought Mr. Allen (Character name Fielding Mellish) was a traitor to our country, she replied:

"I think Mr. Mellish is a traitor to our country because his views differ from those of the President and his kind, differences of opinion should be tolerated, but not when they're too different, then he becomes... a subversive mother!

Education forces us to consider diverse points of view, too look at things from the perspective of others. Education encourages us to think outside the box, and to seek new solutions, and expand our boundaries of understanding. This stands in stark contrast to the Conservative agenda, which tells us in little bumper sticker slogans that "we're right, and they're wrong!" "We're superior and they're inferior" "We're strong, and they're weak"

History is full of Conservative thinkers who (with the full backing of the church) taught the earth was the center of the universe, the earth was flat, many women were witches, and must be burned, the study of the stars and human autonomy, and other fields of science were the devils works, and the list goes on-

In my 64 years of walking this old rock called planet earth I've learned: Ignorance = Fear. It's fear that tells Conservatives that waves of evil foreigners are invading our great nation from the southern border and spreading violence and disease. It's fear that tells Conservatives they have to own a gun, or they'll be attacked at any minute, it's fear that tells Conservatives our universities are spreading the doctrine of socialism and liberalism, which undermine the values of our fine Christian nation...just like it's fear that makes Conservatives clutch their little bibles, and believe with all their Christian souls, that Donald J Trump is going to build a great, big beautiful, and MEXICO is going to pay for it.

I feel so sorry for these folks, though their intentions are good, they're blindly placing their trust in a man who doesn't give a shit about them at all....

/----/ If we hate education, please explain all of the parochial schools. If we hate education, we'd save the tuition and send out kids to public school for a worthless degree.

Private Schools in the United States: A Statistical Profile ...
Catholic-Parochial Schools. Overview. The largest system of private schools in the United States is operated by the Roman Catholic Church and includes 8,351 schools in 1993-94, serving 2,516,000 students (tables 1.1 and 1.2).

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

Many Trump supporters and Conservatives are less educated than most...and damn proud of it! Celebrating one's dumbness is a badge of honor for them, but why?? The answer can be found way back in the 70's during the reign of Republican Richard Nixon. In a Woody Allen film a beautiful WASPish woman was asked why she thought Mr. Allen (Character name Fielding Mellish) was a traitor to our country, she replied:

"I think Mr. Mellish is a traitor to our country because his views differ from those of the President and his kind, differences of opinion should be tolerated, but not when they're too different, then he becomes... a subversive mother!

Education forces us to consider diverse points of view, too look at things from the perspective of others. Education encourages us to think outside the box, and to seek new solutions, and expand our boundaries of understanding. This stands in stark contrast to the Conservative agenda, which tells us in little bumper sticker slogans that "we're right, and they're wrong!" "We're superior and they're inferior" "We're strong, and they're weak"

History is full of Conservative thinkers who (with the full backing of the church) taught the earth was the center of the universe, the earth was flat, many women were witches, and must be burned, the study of the stars and human autonomy, and other fields of science were the devils works, and the list goes on-

In my 64 years of walking this old rock called planet earth I've learned: Ignorance = Fear. It's fear that tells Conservatives that waves of evil foreigners are invading our great nation from the southern border and spreading violence and disease. It's fear that tells Conservatives they have to own a gun, or they'll be attacked at any minute, it's fear that tells Conservatives our universities are spreading the doctrine of socialism and liberalism, which undermine the values of our fine Christian nation...just like it's fear that makes Conservatives clutch their little bibles, and believe with all their Christian souls, that Donald J Trump is going to build a great, big beautiful, and MEXICO is going to pay for it.

I feel so sorry for these folks, though their intentions are good, they're blindly placing their trust in a man who doesn't give a shit about them at all....

Why

Many Trump supporters and Conservatives are less educated than most...and damn proud of it! Celebrating one's dumbness is a badge of honor for them, but why?? The answer can be found way back in the 70's during the reign of Republican Richard Nixon. In a Woody Allen film a beautiful WASPish woman was asked why she thought Mr. Allen (Character name Fielding Mellish) was a traitor to our country, she replied:

"I think Mr. Mellish is a traitor to our country because his views differ from those of the President and his kind, differences of opinion should be tolerated, but not when they're too different, then he becomes... a subversive mother!

Education forces us to consider diverse points of view, too look at things from the perspective of others. Education encourages us to think outside the box, and to seek new solutions, and expand our boundaries of understanding. This stands in stark contrast to the Conservative agenda, which tells us in little bumper sticker slogans that "we're right, and they're wrong!" "We're superior and they're inferior" "We're strong, and they're weak"

History is full of Conservative thinkers who (with the full backing of the church) taught the earth was the center of the universe, the earth was flat, many women were witches, and must be burned, the study of the stars and human autonomy, and other fields of science were the devils works, and the list goes on-

In my 64 years of walking this old rock called planet earth I've learned: Ignorance = Fear. It's fear that tells Conservatives that waves of evil foreigners are invading our great nation from the southern border and spreading violence and disease. It's fear that tells Conservatives they have to own a gun, or they'll be attacked at any minute, it's fear that tells Conservatives our universities are spreading the doctrine of socialism and liberalism, which undermine the values of our fine Christian nation...just like it's fear that makes Conservatives clutch their little bibles, and believe with all their Christian souls, that Donald J Trump is going to build a great, big beautiful, and MEXICO is going to pay for it.

I feel so sorry for these folks, though their intentions are good, they're blindly placing their trust in a man who doesn't give a shit about them at all....

Bill, thanks for reminding millions of Voters once again that the "tolerant" liberals hate Christians, Wasps, Anglos, midwesterners, southerners, patriots, married couples, suburbanites, decent society.........well basically the mainstream middle class taxpayers who live outside of LA and NYC.

 

[Pilot1]

Let me say that I'm not on either side of the argument. Just want an honest answer here:

If conservatives are so well educated, how is it they continue to adopt the left's socialism and work harder to legislate it than the left does? Adding insult to injury, conservatives end up doing the bidding of the left and are more fanatical in the promotion of bad ideas... even when it's being pointed out to them.

Well there are "conservatives" and then there is the Republican, GOP Establishment which runs the Party, and most of their members in the legislatures. The Republican Establishment are very similar to the Democrats who want bigger government, large budgets, and are ok with higher tax rates, and more taxes overall. The bigger the government, the bigger the piece of the pie each politician can get. All self serving.

 

[Votto]

Many Trump supporters and Conservatives are less educated than most...and damn proud of it! Celebrating one's dumbness is a badge of honor for them, but why?? The answer can be found way back in the 70's during the reign of Republican Richard Nixon. In a Woody Allen film a beautiful WASPish woman was asked why she thought Mr. Allen (Character name Fielding Mellish) was a traitor to our country, she replied:

"I think Mr. Mellish is a traitor to our country because his views differ from those of the President and his kind, differences of opinion should be tolerated, but not when they're too different, then he becomes... a subversive mother!

Education forces us to consider diverse points of view, too look at things from the perspective of others. Education encourages us to think outside the box, and to seek new solutions, and expand our boundaries of understanding. This stands in stark contrast to the Conservative agenda, which tells us in little bumper sticker slogans that "we're right, and they're wrong!" "We're superior and they're inferior" "We're strong, and they're weak"

History is full of Conservative thinkers who (with the full backing of the church) taught the earth was the center of the universe, the earth was flat, many women were witches, and must be burned, the study of the stars and human autonomy, and other fields of science were the devils works, and the list goes on-

In my 64 years of walking this old rock called planet earth I've learned: Ignorance = Fear. It's fear that tells Conservatives that waves of evil foreigners are invading our great nation from the southern border and spreading violence and disease. It's fear that tells Conservatives they have to own a gun, or they'll be attacked at any minute, it's fear that tells Conservatives our universities are spreading the doctrine of socialism and liberalism, which undermine the values of our fine Christian nation...just like it's fear that makes Conservatives clutch their little bibles, and believe with all their Christian souls, that Donald J Trump is going to build a great, big beautiful, and MEXICO is going to pay for it.

I feel so sorry for these folks, though their intentions are good, they're blindly placing their trust in a man who doesn't give a shit about them at all....

TRANSLATION

Education forces children to look at the Progressive point of view, that the Founding Fathers were slave owners, committed genocide to the American Indian, and therefore, should be replaced with Karl Marx because the Constitution must then be crap. No need to mention how the Founding Fathers rightly feared democracy and mob rule. In fact, let's falsely reiterate time and time and time again in class how the US is a Democracy, when in fact, it is a Republic. Then ignore how the Progressives seek to do such things as do away with the Electoral College to turn more and more to a pure democracy and mob rule. Ignore how Progressives have centralized government to the point that the Federal government now has ultimate control over the states, something the Founders feared would happen as they chose the model of Federalism instead and gave the Federal government limited powers. And NEVER teach children about the Fifth Amendment, which gives states the right to amend the Constitution instead of the Federal government. It has never been done and must never be done to curb the power and influence of the Federal government. And when people refer to it, just call it crazy and say if they try we will end up losing all our rights if we let them. Then point to the racism against the black man that once was used to justify the slavery of blacks, while ignoring the fact that these same white folks turned against it all because of the very Constitution that Progressives disdain. Yes, the racist white man was divided on the issue and fought his brother to the death to do away with it. But how could this be?

While we are at it, let us completely ignore the history of how all centralized governments devolve into war provoking dictatorships and how socialism/communism contributed to this. To start, the NAZI regime will not be referred to as socialists, even though they self identified as such and adhered to socialist policies, hated capitalism, and heavily taxed the top 4%. Let's ignore the fact that the Nazi regime was more concerned about the environment and animal rights than human beings they targeted through identity politics to destroy, like the unborn children of today. Yes, let's refer to the Nazi regime as a right wing hate group because they are fascist and fascist now means right wing cuz we say so. Funny how the Foundering Fathers were not fascists yet they are put in the same arena as the Jew hating fascists of the right today. Yep, communist left, Nazi to the right even though both communist and Nazi regimes were socialist and collectivist utopias.

Let's continue to use class time to pull children from the class room and drag them out into the streets to protest gun rights, instead of teaching them about the Second Amendment and gun rights in the class room. Never mind that the Founding Fathers favored gun rights, even Gandhi favored gun rights, as all fascist and communist regimes in history sought to take guns away from the populace. Ignore the fact that Obama and Holder ran guns across the border to give to drug cartels, which ended up in zero arrests and many, many, innocent murders, while in the same breath touting the need to take guns from law abiding Americans. Then act as though the Trump regime is criminal while Eric Holder was the only AG in US history to be held in contempt of Congress over the gun running scheme.

Let's strip morality from the class rooms and wonder why children bring guns into the class room to shoot the place up, turn to drugs, and watch in horror as amoral human beings are empowered via education to wreak havoc upon society in various ways.

Then to finish them all off, let's tell children that science is better than religion. Let's tell them that history shows that the church attacked science, burned scientists at the stake for their findings, and believe in fables that contradict science while ignoring the fact that this all occurred under oppressive centralized governments, which was the true culprit. Fables such as the Garden of Eden should be ridiculed because we all know that our origins are in evolution, after all, science tells us this. Yes, ignore the story of a man and a woman told not to eat of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil because they will surely die if they do. Now why do you suppose that the tree was called the tree of knowledge of good and evil? Could it be that the message here is, knowledge without wisdom brings death? Could it be that science, not the Bible, is at the heart of all our ills today? Could they be as blind not to see that such issues as global warming, the threat of WMD's, over population, non-reproducing vegetation that is slowly overtaking those that reproduce naturally, AI and all it's future threats, are because of having knowledge without wisdom? Why is such knowledge stands on the verge of destroying all of mankind while religion continues to be blamed?

Well to hell with them all!! Promote abortion to limit their numbers, run wreak less deficits so that future generations have no real future at all, and then medicate them by legalizing as many illicit drugs as humanly possible, while allowing them to continue to flow into the country that has no border security.

I can understand being frightened of the future but who are we to decide what knowledge our descendants will need and what will be superfluous long after we are dead? In the end all you can do is to give them the broadest view of the world possible and hope they will make the right choices. One thing is certain: the pace of change is accelerating and educating Americans to find change a bewildering overwhelming process is grave disservice.

I would say that the most grave of disservice is to empower amoral children with knowledge and then blame religion for all our ills.

Religious types exercising secular power are their own worst enemy. The ability to question everything and accept nothing is a extraordinarily valuable skill these days. If this means that people are less willing to accept things on faith alone what we know as religion is an acceptable loss.

The Founding Fathers were horrified at how the Church of England controlled the pulpit in England. I'm sure they were equally as horrified as the history of Constantine adopting the Christian faith to conquer with and then subsequently setting up a state church that carried such injustices out as Inquisitions/Crusades, etc. Constantine was not even a Christian, he still worshiped the pagan gods, even though he was rumored to have converted on his death bed.

Christians I think learned long ago about the evil nature of politics and the state, and to avoid a theocracy. Christ even warned that his kingdom was not of this world, nor could be. Unfortunately, Islam has never learned this lesson. In fact, their religion demands religion be combined with the state due to Sharia law.

No, I'm not an advocate of theocracy, even though I'm sure you can find a Christian or two who are. I am just a voice of warning, just as Christ was to us.

So how does one keep a moral society without mandating a state religion? The US did a pretty good job for a while, the best example that I can think of.

But alas, when the morality of society is that of a jail house, all one can do is build a wall around it and hire a warden. This I think is why Left wingers, who are fascists, want to destroy the moral fiber of society. They know that it can only lead to authoritarianism.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

I don't know about anyone else, but I really noticed this change beginning with Dubya, and really accelerating with Sarah Palin. Obligated to protect and defend their candidates for partisan reasons, they had to come up with a way to spin for candidates who were, uh, somewhat less than articulate.

So they decided to champion "plain spoken" qualities, one thing led to another, this momentum built, and suddenly people who sounded intelligent and articulate were demeaned for it. That, of course, led to demeaning the value of education. And, obviously, this has continued with Trump.

A weird phenomenon.
.

Bush has an MBA from Harvard.
He is not dumb.

That's not what I said.
.

lame

 

[danielpalos]

Many Trump supporters and Conservatives are less educated than most...and damn proud of it! Celebrating one's dumbness is a badge of honor for them, but why?? The answer can be found way back in the 70's during the reign of Republican Richard Nixon. In a Woody Allen film a beautiful WASPish woman was asked why she thought Mr. Allen (Character name Fielding Mellish) was a traitor to our country, she replied:

"I think Mr. Mellish is a traitor to our country because his views differ from those of the President and his kind, differences of opinion should be tolerated, but not when they're too different, then he becomes... a subversive mother!

Education forces us to consider diverse points of view, too look at things from the perspective of others. Education encourages us to think outside the box, and to seek new solutions, and expand our boundaries of understanding. This stands in stark contrast to the Conservative agenda, which tells us in little bumper sticker slogans that "we're right, and they're wrong!" "We're superior and they're inferior" "We're strong, and they're weak"

History is full of Conservative thinkers who (with the full backing of the church) taught the earth was the center of the universe, the earth was flat, many women were witches, and must be burned, the study of the stars and human autonomy, and other fields of science were the devils works, and the list goes on-

In my 64 years of walking this old rock called planet earth I've learned: Ignorance = Fear. It's fear that tells Conservatives that waves of evil foreigners are invading our great nation from the southern border and spreading violence and disease. It's fear that tells Conservatives they have to own a gun, or they'll be attacked at any minute, it's fear that tells Conservatives our universities are spreading the doctrine of socialism and liberalism, which undermine the values of our fine Christian nation...just like it's fear that makes Conservatives clutch their little bibles, and believe with all their Christian souls, that Donald J Trump is going to build a great, big beautiful, and MEXICO is going to pay for it.

I feel so sorry for these folks, though their intentions are good, they're blindly placing their trust in a man who doesn't give a shit about them at all....

...so they can appeal to ignorance instead of reason.

 

[occupied]

Many Trump supporters and Conservatives are less educated than most...and damn proud of it! Celebrating one's dumbness is a badge of honor for them, but why?? The answer can be found way back in the 70's during the reign of Republican Richard Nixon. In a Woody Allen film a beautiful WASPish woman was asked why she thought Mr. Allen (Character name Fielding Mellish) was a traitor to our country, she replied:

"I think Mr. Mellish is a traitor to our country because his views differ from those of the President and his kind, differences of opinion should be tolerated, but not when they're too different, then he becomes... a subversive mother!

Education forces us to consider diverse points of view, too look at things from the perspective of others. Education encourages us to think outside the box, and to seek new solutions, and expand our boundaries of understanding. This stands in stark contrast to the Conservative agenda, which tells us in little bumper sticker slogans that "we're right, and they're wrong!" "We're superior and they're inferior" "We're strong, and they're weak"

History is full of Conservative thinkers who (with the full backing of the church) taught the earth was the center of the universe, the earth was flat, many women were witches, and must be burned, the study of the stars and human autonomy, and other fields of science were the devils works, and the list goes on-

In my 64 years of walking this old rock called planet earth I've learned: Ignorance = Fear. It's fear that tells Conservatives that waves of evil foreigners are invading our great nation from the southern border and spreading violence and disease. It's fear that tells Conservatives they have to own a gun, or they'll be attacked at any minute, it's fear that tells Conservatives our universities are spreading the doctrine of socialism and liberalism, which undermine the values of our fine Christian nation...just like it's fear that makes Conservatives clutch their little bibles, and believe with all their Christian souls, that Donald J Trump is going to build a great, big beautiful, and MEXICO is going to pay for it.

I feel so sorry for these folks, though their intentions are good, they're blindly placing their trust in a man who doesn't give a shit about them at all....

TRANSLATION

Education forces children to look at the Progressive point of view, that the Founding Fathers were slave owners, committed genocide to the American Indian, and therefore, should be replaced with Karl Marx because the Constitution must then be crap. No need to mention how the Founding Fathers rightly feared democracy and mob rule. In fact, let's falsely reiterate time and time and time again in class how the US is a Democracy, when in fact, it is a Republic. Then ignore how the Progressives seek to do such things as do away with the Electoral College to turn more and more to a pure democracy and mob rule. Ignore how Progressives have centralized government to the point that the Federal government now has ultimate control over the states, something the Founders feared would happen as they chose the model of Federalism instead and gave the Federal government limited powers. And NEVER teach children about the Fifth Amendment, which gives states the right to amend the Constitution instead of the Federal government. It has never been done and must never be done to curb the power and influence of the Federal government. And when people refer to it, just call it crazy and say if they try we will end up losing all our rights if we let them. Then point to the racism against the black man that once was used to justify the slavery of blacks, while ignoring the fact that these same white folks turned against it all because of the very Constitution that Progressives disdain. Yes, the racist white man was divided on the issue and fought his brother to the death to do away with it. But how could this be?

While we are at it, let us completely ignore the history of how all centralized governments devolve into war provoking dictatorships and how socialism/communism contributed to this. To start, the NAZI regime will not be referred to as socialists, even though they self identified as such and adhered to socialist policies, hated capitalism, and heavily taxed the top 4%. Let's ignore the fact that the Nazi regime was more concerned about the environment and animal rights than human beings they targeted through identity politics to destroy, like the unborn children of today. Yes, let's refer to the Nazi regime as a right wing hate group because they are fascist and fascist now means right wing cuz we say so. Funny how the Foundering Fathers were not fascists yet they are put in the same arena as the Jew hating fascists of the right today. Yep, communist left, Nazi to the right even though both communist and Nazi regimes were socialist and collectivist utopias.

Let's continue to use class time to pull children from the class room and drag them out into the streets to protest gun rights, instead of teaching them about the Second Amendment and gun rights in the class room. Never mind that the Founding Fathers favored gun rights, even Gandhi favored gun rights, as all fascist and communist regimes in history sought to take guns away from the populace. Ignore the fact that Obama and Holder ran guns across the border to give to drug cartels, which ended up in zero arrests and many, many, innocent murders, while in the same breath touting the need to take guns from law abiding Americans. Then act as though the Trump regime is criminal while Eric Holder was the only AG in US history to be held in contempt of Congress over the gun running scheme.

Let's strip morality from the class rooms and wonder why children bring guns into the class room to shoot the place up, turn to drugs, and watch in horror as amoral human beings are empowered via education to wreak havoc upon society in various ways.

Then to finish them all off, let's tell children that science is better than religion. Let's tell them that history shows that the church attacked science, burned scientists at the stake for their findings, and believe in fables that contradict science while ignoring the fact that this all occurred under oppressive centralized governments, which was the true culprit. Fables such as the Garden of Eden should be ridiculed because we all know that our origins are in evolution, after all, science tells us this. Yes, ignore the story of a man and a woman told not to eat of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil because they will surely die if they do. Now why do you suppose that the tree was called the tree of knowledge of good and evil? Could it be that the message here is, knowledge without wisdom brings death? Could it be that science, not the Bible, is at the heart of all our ills today? Could they be as blind not to see that such issues as global warming, the threat of WMD's, over population, non-reproducing vegetation that is slowly overtaking those that reproduce naturally, AI and all it's future threats, are because of having knowledge without wisdom? Why is such knowledge stands on the verge of destroying all of mankind while religion continues to be blamed?

Well to hell with them all!! Promote abortion to limit their numbers, run wreak less deficits so that future generations have no real future at all, and then medicate them by legalizing as many illicit drugs as humanly possible, while allowing them to continue to flow into the country that has no border security.

I can understand being frightened of the future but who are we to decide what knowledge our descendants will need and what will be superfluous long after we are dead? In the end all you can do is to give them the broadest view of the world possible and hope they will make the right choices. One thing is certain: the pace of change is accelerating and educating Americans to find change a bewildering overwhelming process is grave disservice.

I would say that the most grave of disservice is to empower amoral children with knowledge and then blame religion for all our ills.

Religious types exercising secular power are their own worst enemy. The ability to question everything and accept nothing is a extraordinarily valuable skill these days. If this means that people are less willing to accept things on faith alone what we know as religion is an acceptable loss.

The Founding Fathers were horrified at how the Church of England controlled the pulpit in England. I'm sure they were equally as horrified as the history of Constantine adopting the Christian faith to conquer with and then subsequently setting up a state church that carried such injustices out as Inquisitions/Crusades, etc. Constantine was not even a Christian, he still worshiped the pagan gods, even though he was rumored to have converted on his death bed.

Christians I think learned long ago about the evil nature of politics and the state, and to avoid a theocracy. Christ even warned that his kingdom was not of this world, nor could be. Unfortunately, Islam has never learned this lesson. In fact, their religion demands religion be combined with the state due to Sharia law.

No, I'm not an advocate of theocracy, even though I'm sure you can find a Christian or two who are. I am just a voice of warning, just as Christ was to us.

So how does one keep a moral society without mandating a state religion? The US did a pretty good job for a while, the best example that I can think of.

But alas, when the morality of society is that of a jail house, all one can do is build a wall around it and hire a warden. This I think is why Left wingers, who are fascists, want to destroy the moral fiber of society. They know that it can only lead to authoritarianism.

Morals do not guarantee an ethical society. Most people are generally decent without the mysticism and afterlife threats and rewards.