Why Can't We Elect Presidents of Good Personal Character?

[jasonnfree]

Why Can't We Elect Presidents of Good Personal Character?

Possibly because men of good personal character don't seek that kind of power for the sake of it, as an end unto itself?

Correct. People who are socio, or psychopathic tend to gravitate to positions of power. These creatures are generally of few if any moral character, and also portray a disposition of charm, empathy and good intention. They are, of course, none of those things. That's what makes them sociopaths.

At some point we're going to have to come tot he realization that placing any individual into power over our lives will ultimately result in our well being jeopardized instead of enhanced. We have over 100 years of it as observational proof.

People are, in general, ignorant, stupida nd looking for the easy way through anything. Hence when a charming sociopath comes along and gives a good number of folks the warm tinglings, we end up with a disaster on our hands from the very people we put in place to safeguard against such disasters.

Here's a couple links to professions that attracts sociopaths and psycopaths. I'd differ with your opinion that most people are in general, ignorant and stupid. Maybe about politics, but maybe most people don't have the time to delve deep into politics. They're too busy working, trying to make ends meet, taking kids to soccer practice, etc. Notice no school teachers or union leaders in the socio/psycopath list.

The Top 10 Jobs That Attract Psychopaths - Forbes


http://www.policymic.com/articles/44423/10-professions-that-attract-the-most-sociopaths

 

[Spiderman]

And that's patently ridiculous.

Coming from you that's hilarious.

People who seek power are not to be trusted.

Then who should lead?

People who don't want to lead?

You know how ridiculous that is?

Seriously?

Being a leader and seeking power are two entirely different things.

The best leaders do not seek to be leaders. The people around them recognize in them the qualities they need in a leader and they then defer to him.

If you willingly follow a self proclaimed leader then you have problems.

BTW politicians aren't leaders. They are elected administrators.

 

[oldfart]

I would posit that warped values and lack of character and public spirit have become a hallmark of our ruling class. We are training them that way. The new education for the best and the brightest is that:

1. Public service sucks, so if you go into it make sure you can make lots of money at it.

2. Workers are chumps. Pay them no attention other than to exploit them.

3. Anything worth possessing, including public adulation and good reputation, can be purchased with enough money and media advisors.

4. The world is divided between predators and prey. Always remember which one you are.

5. Always know where your money comes from and protect those sources.

Congratulations! You now know everything they teach Harvard MBAs.

 

[BillyZane]

The last two I can recall are Truman and Reagan. What the hell are we doing??

As Thomas Jefferson famously said "anyone man who wants to be President isn't qualified " conversely any man qualified for the job wouldn't want it.

 

[Sallow]

Coming from you that's hilarious.

People who seek power are not to be trusted.

Then who should lead?

People who don't want to lead?

You know how ridiculous that is?

Seriously?

Being a leader and seeking power are two entirely different things.
The best leaders do not seek to be leaders. The people around them recognize in them the qualities they need in a leader and they then defer to him.

If you willingly follow a self proclaimed leader then you have problems.

BTW politicians aren't leaders. They are elected administrators.

No..they are NOT.

 

[Sallow]

The last two I can recall are Truman and Reagan. What the hell are we doing??

As Thomas Jefferson famously said "anyone man who wants to be President isn't qualified " conversely any man qualified for the job wouldn't want it.

Did he say that before or after he ran for President.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

Then who should lead?

People who don't want to lead?

You know how ridiculous that is?

Seriously?

Being a leader and seeking power are two entirely different things.
The best leaders do not seek to be leaders. The people around them recognize in them the qualities they need in a leader and they then defer to him.

If you willingly follow a self proclaimed leader then you have problems.

BTW politicians aren't leaders. They are elected administrators.

No..they are NOT.

Yes, they are.

 

[Tor Hershman]

If Truman & Reagan (Mr. Gotta Drop Dat Bomb & The Strategically Dead Icon) are you're idea of Good Personal Character...then......your concept of 'Hot' must be near absolute zero.

BTW this video tells, not "Why" [There is/are no WHY(s)], how it is so difficult.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LubuSAgB5s]Hey! Hey! We're The Humans - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Sallow]

Being a leader and seeking power are two entirely different things.
The best leaders do not seek to be leaders. The people around them recognize in them the qualities they need in a leader and they then defer to him.

If you willingly follow a self proclaimed leader then you have problems.

BTW politicians aren't leaders. They are elected administrators.

No..they are NOT.

Yes, they are.

Leaders are always people seeking power.

People seeking power are not always leaders.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

The last two I can recall are Truman and Reagan. What the hell are we doing??

Those people don't run for public office

 

[Spiderman]

Then who should lead?

People who don't want to lead?

You know how ridiculous that is?

Seriously?

Being a leader and seeking power are two entirely different things.
The best leaders do not seek to be leaders. The people around them recognize in them the qualities they need in a leader and they then defer to him.

If you willingly follow a self proclaimed leader then you have problems.

BTW politicians aren't leaders. They are elected administrators.

No..they are NOT.

Of course they are.

They sit on their asses all day, talk until they are blue in the face and then push papers around.

They don't actually DO anything and they certainly do not lead.

 

[FA_Q2]

You are not born with good moral and personal character. You build it through your life and your experiences.

Unfortunately, we do not allow people that have actually lived to attain office. If you stubbed your toe at age 16 you suddenly cease to be electable.

When people are railing over whether or not you smoked pot once, tied a dog to your car roof or what you did 15 years ago it becomes impossible for anyone that has ever done anything to actually get elected.

 

[Mac1958]

You are not born with good moral and personal character. You build it through your life and your experiences.

Unfortunately, we do not allow people that have actually lived to attain office. If you stubbed your toe at age 16 you suddenly cease to be electable.

When people are railing over whether or not you smoked pot once, tied a dog to your car roof or what you did 15 years ago it becomes impossible for anyone that has ever done anything to actually get elected.

Yup. Why in the world would a rational person run for national political office? What is the psychological makeup of a person who thinks that they are so important that they're willing to put up with the mountains of garbage that will inevitably be dumped on them? Why in the world would such a person be willing to participate in an environment that is so obviously replete with abject liars, thieves, narcissists and sycophants?

And don't give me that "they just want to serve" line. This is a mental disorder.

Our REAL Best & Brightest know to stay OUT of POLITICS.

.

 

[BillyZane]

Personally I wish we could always elect a retired military person as POTUS. Any branch is fine, they all do a find job of selecting and training the very best to be leaders.

As an example, Colin Powell should have by all rights been our first black President, at the time he was 10 times the man Obama ever was.

Although I do believe he traded his integrity in when Obama came onto the scene.

 

[Mr. President]

Because people of Strong Character promote self sacrifice. I'm not sure the last two generations of Americans can even define that concept yet alone recognize it.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Personally I wish we could always elect a retired military person as POTUS. Any branch is fine, they all do a find job of selecting and training the very best to be leaders.

As an example, Colin Powell should have by all rights been our first black President, at the time he was 10 times the man Obama ever was.

Although I do believe he traded his integrity in when Obama came onto the scene.

Nope he traded in his integrity when he realized he became a lapp dog during the U.N. hearings on why the u.s. wanted to attack Iraq. .. any fool knew the evidence was bullshit when any American could buy from the local hobby lobby a drone plane that Powell said Iraq had as evidence.

And that's the main reason I didn't vote for Bush jr. The second time, he was full of shit and Iraq and killing Saddam w as just a revenge war.
Not about oil.

 

[Mr. President]

Biological weapons are weapons of mass destruction and Saddam had those. It's not his fault Americans were to stupid to realize WMD's didn't just mean nuclear or atomic weapons.

 

[Dr Grump]

Ford seemed of reasonable character as did Eisenhower. Carter, too.

Ronnie Raygun? Good character??? RATFLMAO...Iran-Contra anyone? Anyone? Anyone?

 

[Wyatt earp]

Ford seemed of reasonable character as did Eisenhower. Carter, too.

Ronnie Raygun? Good character??? RATFLMAO...Iran-Contra anyone? Anyone? Anyone?

Wtf? Carter? and freezing gas prices was reasonable? And his lie about seeing a ufo reasonable? And Carter's fuck up in Iran reasonable? This post must be a joke right?

 

[Mr. President]

Hahaha yeah I may have gave him more credit if he went guns blazing into Iran. But to embarrass our military like that and ruin international rep... Disgusting.