Who suffered the most?

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Which group uffered the most?

  1. Ukrainians (Holodomor, Gulag, Nazi target)

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    27.3%
  2. Jews (Holocaust, Pogroms)

    2 vote(s)
    18.2%
  3. Congolese (Leopold's genocide, Congo Civil war)

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    0.0%
  4. Poles (Deluge, Partitions, Holocaust)

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    9.1%
  5. Russians (Russian Civil War, WW2 Hunger plan)

    1 vote(s)
    9.1%
  6. Chinese (Mao's genocide, Imperial Japan's genocide)

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    18.2%
  7. African Americans (Slavery)

    1 vote(s)
    9.1%
  8. Native American (Disease, Genocide)

    1 vote(s)
    9.1%
  9. Asian Indians (Dozens of famines by the British Raj, or the Muslim genocide before it)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. SobieskiSavedEurope
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    Well, there's a lot of choices.

    IMO it's actually African Americans who wait for it, suffered the least on this particular list.

    IMO it's actually either Ukrainians, or Asian Indians who suffered the most, or some Native Americans.
     
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    going with the Chinese, the known number of dead and the believed number of dead just under Mao is nuts, toss in what the Japs did to them and what is still being done..

    everyone did slavery, however Africa was/is used by many other countries and Africans self inflict much of what is going on there now.


    I'd say the least was the Asian Indians, what happened to them was pretty much standard warfare of the times.
     
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    But, Asian Indians under the British occupation suffered more than a dozen famines, many of them totaling millions, even multiple millions.
    Furthermore, under Islamic occupation, the population of India dropped 80 million, even when you account for births.
     
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    I mostly like to consider 'suffering' as something that is forced upon you. Killing yourself off is something different.

    and the muslim have been put in check by the indians
     
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    Numerically more Chinese suffered in death, but what about in proportion to their population, what about all those who survived the heart ache, to me that's the real suffering.
    In proportion to their size, these genocides weren't as big as says the Holodomor was for Ukraine, or the Holocaust was for Jews.
     
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    Actually that is not so. There were more blacks who died in the middle passage hat Ukrainians who died in all those things and jews.

    Then you count the subsequent number of blacks who died in America as saves and up to at least 1965 when the president ended segregation by kaw.

    Blacks also died in the congo, in namibia and in almost ebery afrocan nation as result of colonization.

    You may want to study history before you start building strawmen while claiming to be challenging something,

    And there is not much self infliction in Africa that hasn't been caused by colonization or western "interests"
     
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    I put Congolese as an option, yes King Leopold's Genocide in the Congo was nasty, but so were many of the other events listed above.
     
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    Middle Passage would include all the Africans in the America's, which only 5 - 6% ended up in the U.S.

    Furthermore the Middle Passage appears to have taken about 2 million - 4 million less than the Holodomor, or Holocaust general figures for Ukrainians, or Jews.
     
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    Stormfront will not provide you with accurate information on the middle passages, Actually there is no real accurate accounting of the numbers who died in the middle passage. I don't care where they all ended up , they were a black. Just like the between 30-100 million Congolese murdered by Leopold. But you see , here were more than 6 million who died over the generations in slavery or because of racism. More than the 11 million ukranians. There are only two such atrocities that can be reasonably compared, the Raj and what happened to Native Americans and both were done by whites. All of these atrocities were terrible but you show what kind of low life you are trying to create a way for your white ass to claim you've been a victim.
     
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    White people have suffered the most. Having to put up with all the ungrateful people that we pulled out of backwards societies. Some props would be nice.
     
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