Who does or does not support Israel?

[Marc39]

I don't support entangling alliances, their costs exceed their benefits,imho.

Your opinion is very humble. And, worthless.

 

[Coyote]

Lets see how many people are willing to put their selves on the line and admit they either support or do not support Israel as a US ally.

It rather depends on what Israel is doing doesn't it, as to whether we suppport them?

Blind support is very dangerous.

 

[JWBooth]

I've no more use for them than I would have for any other socialist militarist state.

 

[Marc39]

I've no more use for them than I would have for any other socialist militarist state.

If you needed a fragile endoscopic medical procedure, you'd have use for the digestible camera recently invented by an Israeli company.

If you needed generic drugs, you'd have use for Israeli-based Teva, the world's largest generic pharmaceuticals company.

If you needed advanced technology, you'd have use for the Israeli technology companies that dominate NASDAQ more than any other country, except, the US.

Frankly, you're useless.

 

[maineman]

absolutely and unequivocally.

Does that mean that they can do no wrong in my eyes? not at all.

 

[JWBooth]

I've no more use for them than I would have for any other socialist militarist state.

If you needed a fragile endoscopic medical procedure, you'd have use for the digestible camera recently invented by an Israeli company.

If you needed generic drugs, you'd have use for Israeli-based Teva, the world's largest generic pharmaceuticals company.

If you needed advanced technology, you'd have use for the Israeli technology companies that dominate NASDAQ more than any other country, except, the US.

Frankly, you're useless.

If I needed a font of insipid twittery, I'd have use for Marc39

 

[Marc39]

I've no more use for them than I would have for any other socialist militarist state.

If you needed a fragile endoscopic medical procedure, you'd have use for the digestible camera recently invented by an Israeli company.

If you needed generic drugs, you'd have use for Israeli-based Teva, the world's largest generic pharmaceuticals company.

If you needed advanced technology, you'd have use for the Israeli technology companies that dominate NASDAQ more than any other country, except, the US.

Frankly, you're useless.

If I needed a font of insipid twittery, I'd have use for Marc39

You merely need to look in the mirror to see a twit.

 

[Tom Clancy]

Lets see how many people are willing to put their selves on the line and admit they either support or do not support Israel as a US ally.

It rather depends on what Israel is doing doesn't it, as to whether we suppport them?

Blind support is very dangerous.

This is true.

I don't condone Israels mistakes or actions when it comes to Civilian Deaths. etc.

 

[Marc39]

Lets see how many people are willing to put their selves on the line and admit they either support or do not support Israel as a US ally.

It rather depends on what Israel is doing doesn't it, as to whether we suppport them?

Blind support is very dangerous.

This is true.

I don't condone Israels mistakes or actions when it comes to Civilian Deaths. etc.

Do you condone Truman dropping the atomic bomb on Japan, killing a million civilians?
Do you condone Hamas killing Israeli civilians?

 

[Tom Clancy]

It rather depends on what Israel is doing doesn't it, as to whether we suppport them?

Blind support is very dangerous.

This is true.

I don't condone Israels mistakes or actions when it comes to Civilian Deaths. etc.

Do you condone Truman dropping the atomic bomb on Japan, killing a million civilians?
Do you condone Hamas killing Israeli civilians?

Marc.. I'm on the same side as you.

Also Marc look at the previous threads about Israel i'm the one condoning Hamas and Jihad.

I forgot to add on my previous Post: While Israel has killed Civilians. (What war hasn't?) The blame has to be put on Hamas.. Why? Because they're the ones hiding in Schools and Hospitals and other Public place full of Civilians.

 

[RadiomanATL]

This is true.

I don't condone Israels mistakes or actions when it comes to Civilian Deaths. etc.

Do you condone Truman dropping the atomic bomb on Japan, killing a million civilians?
Do you condone Hamas killing Israeli civilians?

Marc.. I'm on the same side as you.

Also Marc look at the previous threads about Israel i'm the one condoning Hamas and Jihad.

I forgot to add on my previous Post: While Israel has killed Civilians. (What war hasn't?) The blame has to be put on Hamas.. Why? Because they're the ones hiding in Schools and Hospitals and other Public place full of Civilians.

I think you mean condemning.

 

[Tom Clancy]

Do you condone Truman dropping the atomic bomb on Japan, killing a million civilians?
Do you condone Hamas killing Israeli civilians?

Marc.. I'm on the same side as you.

Also Marc look at the previous threads about Israel i'm the one condoning Hamas and Jihad.

I forgot to add on my previous Post: While Israel has killed Civilians. (What war hasn't?) The blame has to be put on Hamas.. Why? Because they're the ones hiding in Schools and Hospitals and other Public place full of Civilians.

I think you mean condemning.

Yep. Thanks, my mistake.

 

[JWBooth]

You merely need to look in the mirror to see a twit.

Does your momma know that you are using her computer to annoy the grownups?

 

[Samson]

I do NOT support Israel as an ally.

I think the USA needs to revise their list of allies Post Cold War.

The alliance with Israel is a Cold War Anachronism that serves no purpose other than to continue to involve the USA in regional conflicts about which there is nothing to be gained, and much to be lost. As long as Israel is allied with the USA, they have no incentive to develop and expand more meaningful alliances with regional partners.

In Short:

Israel needs to Grow The Fuck Up.

 

[Marc39]

I do NOT support Israel as an ally.

I think the USA needs to revise their list of allies Post Cold War.

The alliance with Israel is a Cold War Anachronism that serves no purpose other than to continue to involve the USA in regional conflicts about which there is nothing to be gained, and much to be lost. As long as Israel is allied with the USA, they have no incentive to develop and expand more meaningful alliances with regional partners.

In Short:

Israel needs to Grow The Fuck Up.

Stupid remarks. The US alliancewith Israel is based on shared democratic principles and Israel being one of the few reliable allies in a region of the world that is a significant threat to the West.

Keep your dumb thoughts to yourself, fool

 

[Samson]

I do NOT support Israel as an ally.

I think the USA needs to revise their list of allies Post Cold War.

The alliance with Israel is a Cold War Anachronism that serves no purpose other than to continue to involve the USA in regional conflicts about which there is nothing to be gained, and much to be lost. As long as Israel is allied with the USA, they have no incentive to develop and expand more meaningful alliances with regional partners.

In Short:

Israel needs to Grow The Fuck Up.

Stupid remarks. The US alliancewith Israel is based on shared democratic principles and Israel being one of the few reliable allies in a region of the world that is a significant threat to the West.

Keep your dumb thoughts to yourself, fool

As compelling and intelligent an aguement you present, I must respectfully disagree.

I cannot imagine what evidence you have of Israel being a "reliable ally" nor which country bordering Israel represents a "significant threat" to the USA.

Are you expecting Syria to launch an invasion? Perhaps hitting Miami Beach any day now?

 

[Marc39]

I do NOT support Israel as an ally.

I think the USA needs to revise their list of allies Post Cold War.

The alliance with Israel is a Cold War Anachronism that serves no purpose other than to continue to involve the USA in regional conflicts about which there is nothing to be gained, and much to be lost. As long as Israel is allied with the USA, they have no incentive to develop and expand more meaningful alliances with regional partners.

In Short:

Israel needs to Grow The Fuck Up.

Stupid remarks. The US alliancewith Israel is based on shared democratic principles and Israel being one of the few reliable allies in a region of the world that is a significant threat to the West.

Keep your dumb thoughts to yourself, fool

As compelling and intelligent an aguement you present, I must respectfully disagree.

I cannot imagine what evidence you have of Israel being a "reliable ally" nor which country bordering Israel represents a "significant threat" to the USA.

Are you expecting Syria to launch an invasion? Perhaps hitting Miami Beach any day now?

This is a reliable ally...

Since 1967, Israel has given to the Pentagon Soviet military equipment captured in conflicts with Soviet-supported Arab countries, providing important data. Israel gave the US a full squadron of MiG-21s which was called the “Top Gun” squadron and used by the U.S. Air Force and Navy for training purposes.

In 1970, Israel forced the withdrawal of the Syrian army from US-ally Jordan while the U.S. was involved militarily in Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia, helping to prevent the collapse of a pro-American government and the installation of a pro-Soviet regime.

In the 1973 War, Israel defeated Soviet-trained and equipped Egyptian and Syrian armies. Israel shared captured Soviet equipment with the US. Israel emerged the one reliable ally where U.S. troops could land, where U.S. equipment can be pre-positioned and where the U.S. has friendly port facilities, saving the US billions of dollars.

In 1982, Israel destroyed Soviet anti-aircraft systems in Lebanon that were considered impenetrable by American weapons. Israel shared with the US insights from the conflict, estimated to be worth billions of dollars.

Senator Daniel Inouye has stated that Israeli data on the Soviet military has saved the U.S. billions of dollars and that the contribution made by Israeli intelligence to America exceeds information provided by all NATO countries combined.

In 1981, Israel bombed the Iraqi nuclear reactor at Osirak, stalling Saddam Hussein’s nuclear capabilities and allowing the U.S. to engage in conventional warfare with Iraq.

Israel has provided critical analysis of the F16 to General Dynamics that resulted in 600 improvements, including structural enhancements, software changes, increased capability landing gear, radio improvements and avionic modifications.

In the Gulf War, Israel provided the US with key intelligence, air cover for military cargo and had IDF stationed in the Iraqi desert to rescue downed American pilots.

The IDF was the sole military force in the region that could successfully challenge the Iraqi army. That fact, which Saddam Hussein understood, was a deterrent to further Iraqi aggression.

The US military benefited from the use of Israeli-made Have Nap air-launched missiles on its B-52 bombers. The Navy used Israeli Pioneer pilotless drones for reconnaissance in the Gulf.

Israel provided mine plows that were used to clear paths for Allied forces through Iraqi minefields.

Mobile bridges flown directly from Israel to Saudi Arabia were used by the U.S. Marine Corps

Israel Aircraft Industries developed conformal fuel tanks that enhanced the range of F15 aircraft used in the Gulf War.

An Israeli-produced targeting system was used to increase the Cobra helicopter's night-fighting capabilities.

Israel manufactured the canister for the highly successful Tomahawk missile.

Night-vision goggles used by U.S. forces were supplied by Israel.

A low-altitude warning system produced and developed in Israel was utilized on Blackhawk helicopters.

Other Israeli equipment provided to U.S. forces included flack vests, gas masks and sandbags.

Israel offered the United States the use of military and hospital facilities. U.S. ships utilized Haifa port shipyard maintenance and support on their way to the Gulf.

General George Keegan, former head of U.S. Air Force Intelligence, has stated that “Israel is worth five CIA’s.” He said that between 1974 and
1990, Israel received $18.3 billion in U.S. military grants, but, that in the same timeframe Israel provided the U.S. with $50-$80 billion in intelligence, research and development savings and Soviet weapons systems given to the U.S.

Israel shares with the US important experience in homeland defense and warfare against suicide bombers and car bombs.

In preparation for the Iraq War, American soldiers trained in IDF facilities and Israeli drones flew above the Sunni Triangle and in Afghanistan providing U.S. Marines with critical intelligence.

In Iraq, Israeli advisers have trained US special forces in aggressive counter-insurgency operations, including the use of assassination squads against guerrilla leaders.

The IDF sent urban warfare specialists to Fort Bragg in North Carolina, the home of US special forces, and Israeli military consultants have also visited Iraq.

The US Army also travelled to Israel to glean lessons learned from their counterterrorist operations in urban areas. The IDF regularly shared its experience in the West Bank and Gaza with the US armed forces. The Pentagon regularly asked the IDF to debrief on operations similar to those engaged in by US military forces.

An American liaison team had been responsible for coordinating efforts and intelligence between the Pentagon, the IDF, and American forces. Major General Charles Simpson, the chief liaison officer for the U.S. Army, met repeatedly with IDF Chief of Staff Moshe Ya'alon on this joint project.

Joint air force exercises, such as the Juniper Cobra, had taken place between Israeli and the American Patriot artillery in the Negev and radar units from the U.S. Sixth Fleet. Noble Dina, an anti-submarine warfare exercise, were executed with the combined efforts of the Israel Navy and the Sixth Fleet.

American soldiers were in Israel prior to the Iraq war to work with anti-missile defenses, both the U.S.-made Patriot and the Arrow, developed by both Israel and the U.S.

The U.S. sailed an aircraft carrier, the Harry Truman, into the Mediterranean Sea. The aircraft allowed U.S. planes to reach Iraqi targets by flying over Israeli and Jordanian territory. Israel has permitted the use of its air zones.

Israel has been sharing with the US its experience in combating Palestinian terrorism, which has been helpful in the US's war in Afghanistan. The US military benefits from Israel’s tactics against suicide bombers, car bombs and improvised explosive devices.

Most of the US military aid to Israel must be spent in the United States, which benefits US military contractors.

In contrast to US commitments to Korea, Japan, Germany and numerous other countries in which the US has over 100 military bases, the US has no military bases in Israel.

Former Secretary of State and NATO forces Commander Alexander Haig has said that he is pro-Israeli because Israel is "the largest American aircraft carrier in the world that cannot be sunk, does not carry even one American soldier, and is located in a critical region for American national security"

In the immediate aftermath of Hurricane Katrina in August 2005, Israel provided assistance to the relief efforts. An Israeli airlift arrived in Little Rock, Arkansas with an eighty-ton shipment of humanitarian aid, including baby food, diapers, water, ready-to-eat meals, clothes, tents, blankets, mattresses, stretchers, first aid kits, wheelchairs and other medical supplies.

In addition to government aid, Israeli non-profit organizations assisted in the relief efforts. Magen David Adom (Israel's national emergency medical, disaster, ambulance and blood bank service) began the "United Brotherhood Operation," which sent a plane-load of supplies and financial assistance. IsraAid, the coordinating body of Israeli non-profits organizations involved in relief work, sent a delegation of medical personnel, psychologists and experienced search-and-rescue divers.

Five universities in Israel welcomed displaced American students from the affected areas and invited both undergraduate and graduate students to continue their studies in Israel.

When terrorists bombed the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in August 1998, Israel immediately dispatched search and rescue teams to assist in saving the victims trapped under the rubble. The IDF's Home Front Command Rescue Unit was the first delegation to arrive from abroad, and was accompanied by military and civilian doctors, rescue dogs and high-tech rescue equipment. The Israeli team led the rescue operation in Nairobi, Kenya and was able to pull three survivors from the building, perform life-saving operations and provide medical care to the victims of the bombing.

 

[Tom Clancy]

I do NOT support Israel as an ally.

I think the USA needs to revise their list of allies Post Cold War.

The alliance with Israel is a Cold War Anachronism that serves no purpose other than to continue to involve the USA in regional conflicts about which there is nothing to be gained, and much to be lost. As long as Israel is allied with the USA, they have no incentive to develop and expand more meaningful alliances with regional partners.

In Short:

Israel needs to Grow The Fuck Up.

Stupid remarks. The US alliancewith Israel is based on shared democratic principles and Israel being one of the few reliable allies in a region of the world that is a significant threat to the West.

Keep your dumb thoughts to yourself, fool

As compelling and intelligent an aguement you present, I must respectfully disagree.

I cannot imagine what evidence you have of Israel being a "reliable ally" nor which country bordering Israel represents a "significant threat" to the USA.

Are you expecting Syria to launch an invasion? Perhaps hitting Miami Beach any day now?

We have a HUGE advantage to our threats in the Middle East (Iran) thanks to our strong Alliance with Israel..

Just sayin'

 

[Samson]

Stupid remarks. The US alliancewith Israel is based on shared democratic principles and Israel being one of the few reliable allies in a region of the world that is a significant threat to the West.

Keep your dumb thoughts to yourself, fool

As compelling and intelligent an aguement you present, I must respectfully disagree.

I cannot imagine what evidence you have of Israel being a "reliable ally" nor which country bordering Israel represents a "significant threat" to the USA.

Are you expecting Syria to launch an invasion? Perhaps hitting Miami Beach any day now?

We have a HUGE advantage to our threats in the Middle East (Iran) thanks to our strong Alliance with Israel..

Just sayin'

Really?

Did we have the same HUGE advantage to our threats in the Middle East (IRAQ) thanks to our strong Alliance with Israel?

Apart from offering a secondary target for SCUDS, what did Israel do?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Stupid remarks. The US alliancewith Israel is based on shared democratic principles and Israel being one of the few reliable allies in a region of the world that is a significant threat to the West.

Keep your dumb thoughts to yourself, fool

As compelling and intelligent an aguement you present, I must respectfully disagree.

I cannot imagine what evidence you have of Israel being a "reliable ally" nor which country bordering Israel represents a "significant threat" to the USA.

Are you expecting Syria to launch an invasion? Perhaps hitting Miami Beach any day now?

We have a HUGE advantage to our threats in the Middle East (Iran) thanks to our strong Alliance with Israel..

Just sayin'

Who is a threat in the ME? I don't see one.