Who do you think won the debate, Hillary or Trump?

[JimBowie1958]

 

[JakeStarkey]

 

[JakeStarkey]

One of the more obvious symptoms of being afflicted with hardcore partisan ideology is conflating fact with opinion.

There is no known cure!


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I think the following is safe to say about the debates:

1. Hillary supporters think she won.

2. Trump supporters think he won.

3. The impact on independents, and liberals or conservatives who might get off the couch and go vote are the ones who really decide who "won" and that has nothing to do with debate rules/points/standards, and in this case we are talking about marginal numbers, maybe 3 to 5% of the vote.

Of course they do, and the marginal numbers are moving to Clinton. Trump has to stop dissing women. Period.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Neither scored a knock out. Trump needed to convince people - he failed to do so. In that regard he "lost." But it was not a great outing for the crook either. She was shrill and annoying, finger nails on a chalkboard are more pleasant than hearing the Deplorable old scum drone on.

Why do you think Trump needed to convince people of ..whatever it is you are thinking?

Trump has better ideas and better policies that he is describing in broad nonWonkish terms; more freedom, economic nationalism and paying off the National debt.

Hillary is going to raise tax rates, allow the Marxists to declare war on our cops and let Bill lose on the virgins of America again....her only hope is to demonize Trump and she failed to do that utterly. Al Trump had to do was avoid that indictment and he did that.

Trump is coming off the debates with a stronger poll take away....so how did he fail exactly?

 

[JakeStarkey]

JimmyEssentials is foaming now. The polls are quite clear that Clinton won the debate, which is the subject of the OP.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Why do you think Trump needed to convince people of ..whatever it is you are thinking?

Because he is trailing in the polls. He needs to do two things,

1. Remind America just how repugnant the criminal scumbag Hillary is
2. Convince the undecided that he is a better choice.

He failed to do this. Deplorable Hillary didn't convince anyone either, but she merely needs to survive, given that the MSM is in the bag for her.

Trump has better ideas and better policies that he is describing in broad nonWonkish terms; more freedom, economic nationalism and paying off the National debt.

Hillary is going to raise tax rates, allow the Marxists to declare war on our cops and let Bill lose on the virgins of America again....her only hope is to demonize Trump and she failed to do that utterly. Al Trump had to do was avoid that indictment and he did that.

Trump is coming off the debates with a stronger poll take away....so how did he fail exactly?

I have not seen any polls that show Trump up after the debates. In Florida. his lead reversed back to the crook.

 

[mudwhistle]

Trump did win the incoherent and rudeness awards hands down.
Hillary won for best non reaction to asshatness.

Her reaction was nothing but condescending and smugness.

Nobody was allowed to hammer her with her own weaknesses.

1. Benghazi
2. Emails
3. Her temper
4. Her conduct during Bill's sexual escapades
5. Russian reset
6. Libya
7. ISIS
8. The Iranian deal
9. Selling 40% of or Uranium to Russia
10. The Clinton Foundation
11. Taking bribes from foreigners
12. Her lying on her taxes
13. Her Secret Service debacle with Columbian prostitutes
14. Pay-for-play accusations
15. Obstruction of Justice
16. Pleading the 5th
17. Revelation of her health and lying about it

 

[JakeStarkey]

Your glitz gushing, mud, has been a failure before and will not succeed now.

 

[daws101]

Trump did win the incoherent and rudeness awards hands down.
Hillary won for best non reaction to asshatness.

Her reaction was nothing but condescending and smugness.

Nobody was allowed to hammer her with her own weaknesses.

1. Benghazi
2. Emails
3. Her temper
4. Her conduct during Bill's sexual escapades
5. Russian reset
6. Libya
7. ISIS
8. The Iranian deal
9. Selling 40% of or Uranium to Russia
10. The Clinton Foundation
11. Taking bribes from foreigners
12. Her lying on her taxes
13. Her Secret Service debacle with Columbian prostitutes
14. Pay-for-play accusations
15. Obstruction of Justice
16. Pleading the 5th
17. Revelation of her health and lying about it

asked and answered .

 

[TNHarley]

Lefties point to polls that "say" Hillary own, Righties point to polls that "say" Trump won.

I know this will come as a complete shock to partisans, but the question is subjective.
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Don't tell LoneLaugher that

Silly nutter.

Determining who won that debate is not subjective. It is a fact that Hillary Clinton performed better than Trump in that debate.

 

[daws101]

Lefties point to polls that "say" Hillary own, Righties point to polls that "say" Trump won.

I know this will come as a complete shock to partisans, but the question is subjective.
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Don't tell LoneLaugher that

Silly nutter.

Determining who won that debate is not subjective. It is a fact that Hillary Clinton performed better than Trump in that debate.

that's is the best you've got.

 

[TNHarley]

Lefties point to polls that "say" Hillary own, Righties point to polls that "say" Trump won.

I know this will come as a complete shock to partisans, but the question is subjective.
.

Don't tell LoneLaugher that

Silly nutter.

Determining who won that debate is not subjective. It is a fact that Hillary Clinton performed better than Trump in that debate.

that's is the best you've got.

 

[daws101]

Lefties point to polls that "say" Hillary own, Righties point to polls that "say" Trump won.

I know this will come as a complete shock to partisans, but the question is subjective.
.

Don't tell LoneLaugher that

Silly nutter.

Determining who won that debate is not subjective. It is a fact that Hillary Clinton performed better than Trump in that debate.

that's is the best you've got.

OCD too.

 

[TNHarley]

Don't tell LoneLaugher that

Silly nutter.

Determining who won that debate is not subjective. It is a fact that Hillary Clinton performed better than Trump in that debate.

that's is the best you've got.

OCD too.

Don't tell LoneLaugher that

Silly nutter.

Determining who won that debate is not subjective. It is a fact that Hillary Clinton performed better than Trump in that debate.

that's is the best you've got.

OCD too.

Dumbass. Debates aren't objective.
There isn't a different rebuttal required. And you are just retarded. That is objective

 

[daws101]

Silly nutter.

Determining who won that debate is not subjective. It is a fact that Hillary Clinton performed better than Trump in that debate.

that's is the best you've got.

OCD too.

Silly nutter.

Determining who won that debate is not subjective. It is a fact that Hillary Clinton performed better than Trump in that debate.

that's is the best you've got.

OCD too.

Dumbass. Debates aren't objective.
There isn't a different rebuttal required. And you are just retarded. That is objective

Actually shit head they are both.
An example is when you react Subjectivity to an objective fact.
Your favorite picture is a fine example of that behavior.

 

[mudwhistle]

Trump did win the incoherent and rudeness awards hands down.
Hillary won for best non reaction to asshatness.

Her reaction was nothing but condescending and smugness.

Nobody was allowed to hammer her with her own weaknesses.

1. Benghazi
2. Emails
3. Her temper
4. Her conduct during Bill's sexual escapades
5. Russian reset
6. Libya
7. ISIS
8. The Iranian deal
9. Selling 40% of or Uranium to Russia
10. The Clinton Foundation
11. Taking bribes from foreigners
12. Her lying on her taxes
13. Her Secret Service debacle with Columbian prostitutes
14. Pay-for-play accusations
15. Obstruction of Justice
16. Pleading the 5th
17. Revelation of her health and lying about it

asked and answered .

 

[LoneLaugher]

I love how so many supposedly intelligent people are coming here to tell us that it impossible to have a clear winner in a debate.

Some of them even like to think that they have won debates right here on this forum.

In that debate on Monday, Hillary Clinton was the winner. This isn't something that can reasonably be disputed.

 

[Roudy]

Anderson cooper is up next but who is going to be the 3rd moderator?

So it's going to be three against one: Cooper, Hillary, and the setup town-hall questioner that Cooper chooses. Hillary's hardest question will be "please tell us how do you handle being such a magnificent leader, truth teller, and fighter for women's rights."

 

[Roudy]

Anderson cooper is up next but who is going to be the 3rd moderator?

Chris Wallace.

And he'll probably be the only one that might be fair.

 

[Roudy]

Determining who won that debate is not subjective. It is a fact that Hillary Clinton performed better than Trump in that debate.

My Gawd, you really are just that stupid, aren't you?

roflmao

Debate is a judged competition like gymnastics or dance.

It is ENTIRELY SUBJECTIVE, ass hole.

What Americans actually think trumps what liberal asshole pundits and journalists think. And Americans have voted and decided that Trump did better. Even liberal websites have him kicking Hillary's ass.