What Will Happen to the Post Office

[Care4all]

an item package weighing 1 lb, from Maine to California is about $10 with USPS, priority mail, delivered in 2-3 days, and it is usually just 2 days to a major city in California

With UPS, it is $70 for 2 day delivery, and $60 for 3 day delivery.... the minimum weight they charge for is 7lbs, so for my 1lb cat beds, it would cost the customer $70 for shipping a $55.00 item....


Check it out... UPS can not handle light weight parcels at a reasonable price....BUT the postal service can...
UPS Calculate Time and Cost

 

[Harry Dresden]

As long as we have hacks like Federal Express fucking up the simple act of package delivery, the USPS will remain the go-to system. I send and receive packages pretty regularly here in the sticks and I'd say 75% of incoming and 100% of outgoing is via the Post Office, which make no mistake is unquestionably the best in the world.

They can't handle big items though, can they?

I have never had a problem with Fed Ex, UPS or the postal service, when it came to sending a package.

Mail usually works too.

I just hate all the junk, especially junk made to look "official".

Like most of government USPS is corporate welfare for the most part and taxpayers should not subsidize the delivery of junk mail they despise.

Have you been in a hole or just plane out of touch? The Post Office is not subsidized by the US Government - years ago it was but not now that is why they are always in the financial hole.

thats not why.....

 

[boedicca]

What will happen to the Post Office: Amazon will buy it to have its own delivery service.

 

[Ravi]

an item package weighing 1 lb, from Maine to California is about $10 with USPS, priority mail, delivered in 2-3 days, and it is usually just 2 days to a major city in California

With UPS, it is $70 for 2 day delivery, and $60 for 3 day delivery.... the minimum weight they charge for is 7lbs, so for my 1lb cat beds, it would cost the customer $70 for shipping a $55.00 item....


Check it out... UPS can not handle light weight parcels at a reasonable price....BUT the postal service can...
UPS Calculate Time and Cost

People buy into the propaganda that the Post Office sucks, though.

Some idiot told me last Monday they were going to FedEx me a check. It didn't arrive until Friday because they didn't pick a special time for delivery. Cost them 15 dollars. If they'd have mailed it I would have gotten it by Wednesday.

 

[Harry Dresden]

like i said.....blame it on the Congress......

The mail clause merely enables Congress to direct where post offices should be located and on what roads mail should be carried,

the PO cant take a piss without Congress giving its approval.....

Did Congress approve of all the prices that are currently used at the post office?

Congress doesnt approve that.....i believe thats the job of the Postal Rate Commission....

Then your earlier comments were in error...

which one?....

 

[LogikAndReazon]

USPS.... Best delivery service bar none.....losses of 2 billion $ a qtr , only something a unionized govt monopoly could acheive.......

Precious

 

[LogikAndReazon]

Ah, next thing you know it will be police officers, fire fighters, teachers and now postal clerks hailed by socialists.....

 

[billyerock1991]

I have heard Obama keeps trying to steal the money they have socked away but the union keeps fighting them off

you are ignorant ... obama can,t touch any of their funds ever... why do you say such stupid shit

sure he cant billy.....they have been taking postal funds since the first day i worked there....who do you think owns and runs it?.....

not the government

 

[billyerock1991]

Illegal?
Worse, it's unprofitable

No, it's just illegal. Ho can you know whether it's unprofitable if private firms are not allowed to provide the service? If the Post Office does such a great job, then why not open it up to competition?

well if this private firm that you feel can do the job then they too have to hold a retirement plan 50 years out too... I wonder how many of your private firms will jump at deal ...

Wrong. They are free to make any deal with their employees that any other private company is legally allowed to make.

are you really this stupid ??? the republicans passed a bill, this bill makes the post office pay for their retirement plan 50 years out .... this isn't a union Idea.... this was a republican idea, this is whats causing them to fail you ... they cant change shit ....they have to get the congress to repeal it ... where the hell have you been ...thats why they are failing ... they are n't free to make and such deal ... it is law ... that was passed by the republicans under george bush

not a Republican idea alone.....your godamned party co-sponsored the fucking thing........

bull shit it was a bill written by republicans ...where all republicans voted for it and George Bush signed it into law ....all dems voted against it ...who you think you're foolin

 

[bripat9643]

an item package weighing 1 lb, from Maine to California is about $10 with USPS, priority mail, delivered in 2-3 days, and it is usually just 2 days to a major city in California

With UPS, it is $70 for 2 day delivery, and $60 for 3 day delivery.... the minimum weight they charge for is 7lbs, so for my 1lb cat beds, it would cost the customer $70 for shipping a $55.00 item....


Check it out... UPS can not handle light weight parcels at a reasonable price....BUT the postal service can...
UPS Calculate Time and Cost

That's because of the law granting USPS a monopoly on 1st class mail

 

[billyerock1991]

I have heard Obama keeps trying to steal the money they have socked away but the union keeps fighting them off

you are ignorant ... obama can,t touch any of their funds ever... why do you say such stupid shit

BULL SHIT
sure he cant billy.....they have been taking postal funds since the first day i worked there....who do you think owns and runs it?.....

Bull shit
The post office has been posting massive losses since 2007, reasonable sounding announcer guy admits. But it's not our fault! The USPS is laboring under "a burden no other agency or company bears." Congress is stealing our hard earned stamp money, for unspecified but definitely probably unfair reasons. Also, we deliver medicine!

Just one problem: The ads are utterly misleading. Take it away, Reason columnist Greg Beato!:

Closing a small-town post office, or even a couple thousand small-town post offices, isn't going to put much of a dent into the $8.5 billion deficit the USPS recorded in 2010 or the $3.8 billion deficit it racked up the previous year. The postal service's most pressing fiscal crisis arises from a provision in the 2006 Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act that requires it to prefund its Retiree Health Benefits Fund at the rate of approximately $5.6 billion a year from 2007 to 2016; the agency has not been able to make those payments without running up huge deficits.

Asking the the post office prefund their pension and benefit liabilities is unusual, but is hardly an extreme request. Of course, the post office isn't the only entity, public or private, that isabout to run into some serious trouble on that front.

I'm not sure I'd agree with reasonable announcer guy that "Congress created this problem" in any real way. But I'm quite sure he's wrong that "Congress can fix it."

 

[Harry Dresden]

I have heard Obama keeps trying to steal the money they have socked away but the union keeps fighting them off

you are ignorant ... obama can,t touch any of their funds ever... why do you say such stupid shit

sure he cant billy.....they have been taking postal funds since the first day i worked there....who do you think owns and runs it?.....

not the government

so who?....

 

[Harry Dresden]

No, it's just illegal. Ho can you know whether it's unprofitable if private firms are not allowed to provide the service? If the Post Office does such a great job, then why not open it up to competition?

well if this private firm that you feel can do the job then they too have to hold a retirement plan 50 years out too... I wonder how many of your private firms will jump at deal ...

Wrong. They are free to make any deal with their employees that any other private company is legally allowed to make.

are you really this stupid ??? the republicans passed a bill, this bill makes the post office pay for their retirement plan 50 years out .... this isn't a union Idea.... this was a republican idea, this is whats causing them to fail you ... they cant change shit ....they have to get the congress to repeal it ... where the hell have you been ...thats why they are failing ... they are n't free to make and such deal ... it is law ... that was passed by the republicans under george bush

not a Republican idea alone.....your godamned party co-sponsored the fucking thing........

bull shit it was a bill written by republicans ...where all republicans voted for it and George Bush signed it into law ....all dems voted against it ...who you think you're foolin

2 Dems C0-Sponsored it.....2 backstabbing assholes.....and nothings happened since 06.....nothing.....were is my President when i need him Billy?....

 

[Harry Dresden]

USPS.... Best delivery service bar none.....losses of 2 billion $ a qtr , only something a unionized govt monopoly could acheive.......

Precious

in the post offices case, the Delivery side and the people who play with the cash side is 2 very different worlds....its not my fault they suck at what they do.....

 

[billyerock1991]

well if this private firm that you feel can do the job then they too have to hold a retirement plan 50 years out too... I wonder how many of your private firms will jump at deal ...

Wrong. They are free to make any deal with their employees that any other private company is legally allowed to make.

are you really this stupid ??? the republicans passed a bill, this bill makes the post office pay for their retirement plan 50 years out .... this isn't a union Idea.... this was a republican idea, this is whats causing them to fail you ... they cant change shit ....they have to get the congress to repeal it ... where the hell have you been ...thats why they are failing ... they are n't free to make and such deal ... it is law ... that was passed by the republicans under george bush

not a Republican idea alone.....your godamned party co-sponsored the fucking thing........

bull shit it was a bill written by republicans ...where all republicans voted for it and George Bush signed it into law ....all dems voted against it ...who you think you're foolin

2 Dems C0-Sponsored it.....2 backstabbing assholes.....and nothings happened since 06.....nothing.....were is my President when i need him Billy?....

WOW 2 dem co-sponsor ... did they vote for it ??? hell no .... the president has been trying from day one to get that bill repealed ... and why would you be dogging the president .... he can't make bills .... Last I checked its the house that passes bills .... last I checked Obama took also office in 2009, so why the hell are you all over obama for repealing this bill is beyond me ... could it be that these nasty repub-lie-cans like yourself, love to try and cloud the issue ???? that passed it ... could that be it ??? by trying to blame the president, when it is clearly you and your repun-Lie-Cans who are the ones who are causing this problem in the first place with the PO ...no that couldn't be it now could it ... get rid of another union that votes for democrats??? repub-lie-cans wouldn't do that ..... it amazes me you get one or two dems working with a republican in the house on a bill, that was entirely written by repub-lie-cans ... then when it get passed, now its both their faults ... you make me sick ... you can't even take responsibility for your own parts debacles ... you want to blame obama, when George Bush signed it into law ...you want to blame Obama and the Dems/liberal, for repub-lie-cans fuck up

PRICELESS !!!!!!!!
thats the repub-lie-can way

 

[billyerock1991]

I have heard Obama keeps trying to steal the money they have socked away but the union keeps fighting them off

you are ignorant ... obama can,t touch any of their funds ever... why do you say such stupid shit

sure he cant billy.....they have been taking postal funds since the first day i worked there....who do you think owns and runs it?.....

not the government

so who?....

no body is taking their money out of their retirement ... they can't touch it idiot

 

[Harry Dresden]

Wrong. They are free to make any deal with their employees that any other private company is legally allowed to make.

are you really this stupid ??? the republicans passed a bill, this bill makes the post office pay for their retirement plan 50 years out .... this isn't a union Idea.... this was a republican idea, this is whats causing them to fail you ... they cant change shit ....they have to get the congress to repeal it ... where the hell have you been ...thats why they are failing ... they are n't free to make and such deal ... it is law ... that was passed by the republicans under george bush

not a Republican idea alone.....your godamned party co-sponsored the fucking thing........

bull shit it was a bill written by republicans ...where all republicans voted for it and George Bush signed it into law ....all dems voted against it ...who you think you're foolin

2 Dems C0-Sponsored it.....2 backstabbing assholes.....and nothings happened since 06.....nothing.....were is my President when i need him Billy?....

WOW 2 dem co-sponsor ... did they vote for it ??? hell no .... the president has been trying from day one to get that bill repealed ... and why would you be dogging the president .... he can't make bills .... Last I checked its the house that passes bills .... last I checked Obama took also office in 2009, so why the hell are you all over obama for repealing this bill is beyond me ... could it be that these nasty repub-lie-cans like yourself, love to try and cloud the issue ???? that passed it ... could that be it ??? by trying to blame the president, when it is clearly you and your repun-Lie-Cans who are the ones who are causing this problem in the first place with the PO ...no that couldn't be it now could it ... get rid of another union that votes for democrats??? repub-lie-cans wouldn't do that ..... it amazes me you get one or two dems working with a republican in the house on a bill, that was entirely written by repub-lie-cans ... then when it get passed, now its both their faults ... you make me sick ... you can't even take responsibility for your own parts debacles ... you want to blame obama, when George Bush signed it into law ...you want to blame Obama and the Dems/liberal, for repub-lie-cans fuck up

PRICELESS !!!!!!!!
thats the repub-lie-can way

yea 2 co-sponsors out of 4 people.....and they did not vote for it?.....they fucking co-sponsored it.....geezus Billy if you cant post stoned....wait till you come down.....and what the fuck are you talking about in there?.....im a Repub-lie-can?......me?.....look at the shit i call them.....i even bad mouth a guy they love.....Darrel asshole Issa.....your problem Billy is like other people in the far corners.....someone does not agree with you call them the opposite of what you are.....because you just cant phantom how someone might not like what you like.....its called ignorance Billy....

 

[Harry Dresden]

I have heard Obama keeps trying to steal the money they have socked away but the union keeps fighting them off

you are ignorant ... obama can,t touch any of their funds ever... why do you say such stupid shit

sure he cant billy.....they have been taking postal funds since the first day i worked there....who do you think owns and runs it?.....

not the government

so who?....

no body is taking their money out of their retirement ... they can't touch it idiot

did i say retirement or did i say "their FUNDS"....which one did i say? ...idiot....

 

[billyerock1991]

you are ignorant ... obama can,t touch any of their funds ever... why do you say such stupid shit

sure he cant billy.....they have been taking postal funds since the first day i worked there....who do you think owns and runs it?.....

not the government

so who?....

no body is taking their money out of their retirement ... they can't touch it idiot

did i say retirement or did i say "their FUNDS"....which one did i say? ...idiot....

this whole post has been about their retirement FUNDS ... the money that they are losing, that the goverbnment insist them to pay, I had said 50 years out, but its actually 75 years out ... obama can't tounch that money that they pay into for retiremen... the fact that you're trying to switch the debate in the middle of the stream shows me you're no different then any other repub-lie-can... you accused Obama and the dems/liberals weren't doing anything to stop them from paying into this plan is total bull shit ... I 've shown you in several post that they have been doing something the problem you have is you have pick the wrong party ... you pick those lying republicans as your savior ... you deserve what you get... I called you on it ... about you saying obama wasn't doing any thinging ... your lies are showing us that you are not a credible poster you said clearly what was being descussed here... now you're trying to say its some other fund, thats total bull shit ... and you know it...

 

[billyerock1991]

are you really this stupid ??? the republicans passed a bill, this bill makes the post office pay for their retirement plan 50 years out .... this isn't a union Idea.... this was a republican idea, this is whats causing them to fail you ... they cant change shit ....they have to get the congress to repeal it ... where the hell have you been ...thats why they are failing ... they are n't free to make and such deal ... it is law ... that was passed by the republicans under george bush

not a Republican idea alone.....your godamned party co-sponsored the fucking thing........

bull shit it was a bill written by republicans ...where all republicans voted for it and George Bush signed it into law ....all dems voted against it ...who you think you're foolin

2 Dems C0-Sponsored it.....2 backstabbing assholes.....and nothings happened since 06.....nothing.....were is my President when i need him Billy?....

WOW 2 dem co-sponsor ... did they vote for it ??? hell no .... the president has been trying from day one to get that bill repealed ... and why would you be dogging the president .... he can't make bills .... Last I checked its the house that passes bills .... last I checked Obama took also office in 2009, so why the hell are you all over obama for repealing this bill is beyond me ... could it be that these nasty repub-lie-cans like yourself, love to try and cloud the issue ???? that passed it ... could that be it ??? by trying to blame the president, when it is clearly you and your repun-Lie-Cans who are the ones who are causing this problem in the first place with the PO ...no that couldn't be it now could it ... get rid of another union that votes for democrats??? repub-lie-cans wouldn't do that ..... it amazes me you get one or two dems working with a republican in the house on a bill, that was entirely written by repub-lie-cans ... then when it get passed, now its both their faults ... you make me sick ... you can't even take responsibility for your own parts debacles ... you want to blame obama, when George Bush signed it into law ...you want to blame Obama and the Dems/liberal, for repub-lie-cans fuck up

PRICELESS !!!!!!!!
thats the repub-lie-can way

yea 2 co-sponsors out of 4 people.....and they did not vote for it?.....they fucking co-sponsored it.....geezus Billy if you cant post stoned....wait till you come down.....and what the fuck are you talking about in there?.....im a Repub-lie-can?......me?.....look at the shit i call them.....i even bad mouth a guy they love.....Darrel asshole Issa.....your problem Billy is like other people in the far corners.....someone does not agree with you call them the opposite of what you are.....because you just cant phantom how someone might not like what you like.....its called ignorance Billy....

lets talk about ignorance here ... you said obama and the dems/ liberals did nothing ... that showing us your ignorance ... you said that Obama and the dems/liberals were taking the Post office money ... again that has shown us your ignorance... the fact that you seem to like to debate in a maner with no factual bases to it shows your hate for Obama and the dems/liberals, that even show us how ignorant you really are... you say your no tjhat you debate against Issa, well a rose is a rose by any other name is still a repub-lie-can