We Don't Owe Them Anything': Mom of Son Killed By DREAMer, Rejects Path to Citizenship

[NYcarbineer]

I don't think blaming a million for the act of one is rational.

This is just 1 of a million stories though.

Okay, how many murders per 100,000 so-called dreamers have there been?

 

[RDD_1210]

Progressives have judged all white people guilty, and sentenced them to death.

This is exactly why they support open borders, unlimited immigration from shitholes, and promote Islam in America and Europe.

You lie. Is that necessary?

What have I ever lied about?

You just lied about progressivism believing in the genocide of white people.

Just put him on ignore. He offers nothing to this discussion which matches what he offers to this country.

 

[Godboy]

I don't think blaming a million for the act of one is rational.

This is just 1 of a million stories though.

Okay, how many murders per 100,000 so-called dreamers have there been?

Murder is the only bench mark for bad behavior?

 

[NYcarbineer]

If one dreamer committing a murder is your primary argument for deporting a million of them,

then why isn't the one white conservative murderer at the Charlottesville protests a valid argument for rounding up a million white conservatives and banishing them to somewhere?

 

[bullwinkle]

Hmmm, I’m thinking Donny had it nailed when he said:

"When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. ... They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people,"

The mother of an 18-year-old boy brutally murdered by an illegal immigrant DREAMer spoke out Saturday against Democratic plans for a pathway to citizenship for illegals.

On "Fox & Friends," Laura Wilkerson said she was "not excited" by the most likely iterations of immigration reform compromises.

"We were promised no-DACA and [that we would] build the wall," she said.

Her son Josh Wilkerson was beaten with a rod, fatally strangled and set on fire by a 19-year-old illegal immigrant.
'We Don't Owe Them Anything': Mom of Son Killed By DREAMer Rips Protests, Rejects Path to Citizenship

{"We were promised no-DACA and [that we would] build the wall," she said.} I don't recall a promise of "No DACA", but I do vividly remember that promise that Mexico would build a wall as it was shouted to the rafters on several occasions. I am genuinely sorry her son was so brutally murdered by an illegal immigrant. Has it been proven that the murderer is a Dreamer? I understand the Dreamers must be free of any misdemeanors, let alone felonies, to qualify as a Dreamer. Anybody?

 

[NYcarbineer]

I don't think blaming a million for the act of one is rational.

This is just 1 of a million stories though.

Okay, how many murders per 100,000 so-called dreamers have there been?

Murder is the only bench mark for bad behavior?

The so-called dreamer in question was convicted of murder, if I'm not mistaken. Do you want the law-abiding dreamers to share a cell with him?

 

[BrokeLoser]

That person isn't a DREAMer but what do facts matter anyway when you need to lie to make your case.

Let's pretend and say he was a DREAMer, ok so one persons action have an impact for everyone? You really want to go down that hole?

I'd normally say, don't be dumb, but we both know you don't have a choice.

A Washington Times story today reported that a new study in AZ found that illegals commit twice as many crimes as Americans, they are only 3% of the population but make up 8% of the prison population. Worse, the crimes illegals commit are more serious crimes. The study also found that LEGAL immigrants, those who obey our immigration laws and come here legally are even more law abiding than native born Americans. There you have it, legal vs illegal immigration.

Did you know that illegals have killed more Americans than terrorists killed during the attacks on 9/11. The powers that be have been white washing illegal crime for decades while scheming to gift these people amnesty and a path to citizenship. Ignoring the number of Americans who have been killed, raped, assaulted by these illegals.

“The U.S. Department of Justice and the U.S. Sentencing Commission reported that as of 2014, illegal immigrants were convicted and sentenced for over 13 percent of all crimes committed in the U.S.

According to the FBI, 67,642 murders were committed in the U.S. from 2005 through 2008, and 115,717 from 2003 through 2009. The General Accounting Office documents that criminal immigrants committed 25,064 of these murders.

To extrapolate out these statistics, this means that a population of just over 3.5 percent residing in the U.S. unlawfully committed 22 percent to 37 percent of all murders in the nation. This is astounding.

Illegal immigrants clearly commit a level of violent and drug related crimesdisproportionate to their population

Vetted crime statistics from USDOJ, the U.S. Sentencing Commission and the U.S. Government Accountability Office (GAO) are both clear anddemonstrative that illegal immigrants who comprise only 3.5 percent of our nation’s population, are convicted and sentenced for the crime ofmurder at a rate of three times that of their American citizen and legal immigrant counterparts.

In California alone, over 2,400 illegal immigrants out of a total prisonpopulation of 130,000 are imprisoned in the state’s prison system for thecrime of homicide.”
The truth about crime, illegal immigrants and sanctuary cities

Thanks for proving my point. You somehow equate all illegal immigrants to being Dreamers. False.

I don't think blaming a million for the act of one is rational.

This is just 1 of a million stories though.

Okay, how many murders per 100,000 so-called dreamers have there been?

If one dreamer committing a murder is your primary argument for deporting a million of them,

then why isn't the one white conservative murderer at the Charlottesville protests a valid argument for rounding up a million white conservatives and banishing them to somewhere?

Hmmm, I’m thinking Donny had it nailed when he said:

"When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. ... They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people,"

The mother of an 18-year-old boy brutally murdered by an illegal immigrant DREAMer spoke out Saturday against Democratic plans for a pathway to citizenship for illegals.

On "Fox & Friends," Laura Wilkerson said she was "not excited" by the most likely iterations of immigration reform compromises.

"We were promised no-DACA and [that we would] build the wall," she said.

Her son Josh Wilkerson was beaten with a rod, fatally strangled and set on fire by a 19-year-old illegal immigrant.
'We Don't Owe Them Anything': Mom of Son Killed By DREAMer Rips Protests, Rejects Path to Citizenship

{"We were promised no-DACA and [that we would] build the wall," she said.} I don't recall a promise of "No DACA", but I do vividly remember that promise that Mexico would build a wall as it was shouted to the rafters on several occasions. I am genuinely sorry her son was so brutally murdered by an illegal immigrant. Has it been proven that the murderer is a Dreamer? I understand the Dreamers must be free of any misdemeanors, let alone felonies, to qualify as a Dreamer. Anybody?

Okay...just to be clear, ‘some wackos’ have now created several groups of illegals....am I right? Is this so various debates can be steered and spun in different directions?
Let’s go ahead and identify the groups we have.
Plain old illegals
DREAMers....(DreamAct)
DACA “kids”
Am I missing any other not so cleverly repackaged labels?

 

[theHawk]

Progressives have judged all white people guilty, and sentenced them to death.

This is exactly why they support open borders, unlimited immigration from shitholes, and promote Islam in America and Europe.

You lie. Is that necessary?

What have I ever lied about?

You just lied about progressivism believing in the genocide of white people.

Feel free to explain why they promote the things I stated, and why they hate whites so much.

 

[danielpalos]

Hmmm, I’m thinking Donny had it nailed when he said:

"When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. ... They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people,"

The mother of an 18-year-old boy brutally murdered by an illegal immigrant DREAMer spoke out Saturday against Democratic plans for a pathway to citizenship for illegals.

On "Fox & Friends," Laura Wilkerson said she was "not excited" by the most likely iterations of immigration reform compromises.

"We were promised no-DACA and [that we would] build the wall," she said.

Her son Josh Wilkerson was beaten with a rod, fatally strangled and set on fire by a 19-year-old illegal immigrant.
'We Don't Owe Them Anything': Mom of Son Killed By DREAMer Rips Protests, Rejects Path to Citizenship

A market friendly visa would mean, their more market friendly labor may opt to do some market research in the US. It would also mean, local native labor would have a chance to move up locally.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Hmmm, I’m thinking Donny had it nailed when he said:

"When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. ... They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people,"

The mother of an 18-year-old boy brutally murdered by an illegal immigrant DREAMer spoke out Saturday against Democratic plans for a pathway to citizenship for illegals.

On "Fox & Friends," Laura Wilkerson said she was "not excited" by the most likely iterations of immigration reform compromises.

"We were promised no-DACA and [that we would] build the wall," she said.

Her son Josh Wilkerson was beaten with a rod, fatally strangled and set on fire by a 19-year-old illegal immigrant.
'We Don't Owe Them Anything': Mom of Son Killed By DREAMer Rips Protests, Rejects Path to Citizenship

A market friendly visa would mean, their more market friendly labor may opt to do some market research in the US. It would also mean, local native labor would have a chance to move up locally.

I have no idea what you just said Danny...but thanks for trying bud.

 

[saveliberty]

That person isn't a DREAMer but what do facts matter anyway when you need to lie to make your case.

Let's pretend and say he was a DREAMer, ok so one persons action have an impact for everyone? You really want to go down that hole?

I'd normally say, don't be dumb, but we both know you don't have a choice.

It DOES show that immigration needs to be a long carefully considered process by individual. This leads to ending chain migration and the lottery system for a start.

 

[Rustic]

Mexico isn't "sending" anyone.

It's such a miserable place to live that people are willing to do anything to escape it.

North Korea shoots people who are trying to escape. Mexico helps them pack.
.

...and American citizens owe these fence jumpers nothing, it does not matter if it was their choice or not.
Why should the American people be forced to pay for something that only has the prospect of a diminishing return… Max

 

[Rustic]

That person isn't a DREAMer but what do facts matter anyway when you need to lie to make your case.

Let's pretend and say he was a DREAMer, ok so one persons action have an impact for everyone? You really want to go down that hole?

I'd normally say, don't be dumb, but we both know you don't have a choice.

Hold on a minute...the editorial says he is a DREAMer...do you know him personally or something? You sound awfully sure.

Conservative Media called him a dreamer because according to the Conservative media all illegals are Dreamers. No one else refers to him as a Dreamer.

Dreamers is A politically correct term much like climate change… in an attempt in Changing the reality of the situation

 

[Rustic]

That person isn't a DREAMer but what do facts matter anyway when you need to lie to make your case.

Let's pretend and say he was a DREAMer, ok so one persons action have an impact for everyone? You really want to go down that hole?

I'd normally say, don't be dumb, but we both know you don't have a choice.

A Washington Times story today reported that a new study in AZ found that illegals commit twice as many crimes as Americans, they are only 3% of the population but make up 8% of the prison population. Worse, the crimes illegals commit are more serious crimes. The study also found that LEGAL immigrants, those who obey our immigration laws and come here legally are even more law abiding than native born Americans. There you have it, legal vs illegal immigration.

Did you know that illegals have killed more Americans than terrorists killed during the attacks on 9/11. The powers that be have been white washing illegal crime for decades while scheming to gift these people amnesty and a path to citizenship. Ignoring the number of Americans who have been killed, raped, assaulted by these illegals.

“The U.S. Department of Justice and the U.S. Sentencing Commission reported that as of 2014, illegal immigrants were convicted and sentenced for over 13 percent of all crimes committed in the U.S.

According to the FBI, 67,642 murders were committed in the U.S. from 2005 through 2008, and 115,717 from 2003 through 2009. The General Accounting Office documents that criminal immigrants committed 25,064 of these murders.

To extrapolate out these statistics, this means that a population of just over 3.5 percent residing in the U.S. unlawfully committed 22 percent to 37 percent of all murders in the nation. This is astounding.

Illegal immigrants clearly commit a level of violent and drug related crimesdisproportionate to their population

Vetted crime statistics from USDOJ, the U.S. Sentencing Commission and the U.S. Government Accountability Office (GAO) are both clear anddemonstrative that illegal immigrants who comprise only 3.5 percent of our nation’s population, are convicted and sentenced for the crime ofmurder at a rate of three times that of their American citizen and legal immigrant counterparts.

In California alone, over 2,400 illegal immigrants out of a total prisonpopulation of 130,000 are imprisoned in the state’s prison system for thecrime of homicide.”
The truth about crime, illegal immigrants and sanctuary cities

Thanks for proving my point. You somehow equate all illegal immigrants to being Dreamers. False.

Illegal is illegal no matter what term you put on it

 

[Rustic]

I don't think blaming a million for the act of one is rational.

This is just 1 of a million stories though.

Okay, how many murders per 100,000 so-called dreamers have there been?

No one knows because no one has an accurate count on how many illegal aliens are in this country

 

[Rustic]

I don't think blaming a million for the act of one is rational.

This is just 1 of a million stories though.

Okay, how many murders per 100,000 so-called dreamers have there been?

Murder is the only bench mark for bad behavior?

The so-called dreamer in question was convicted of murder, if I'm not mistaken. Do you want the law-abiding dreamers to share a cell with him?

Illegal is illegal in a matter what term you put on it

 

[Rustic]

No one should be forced to accept illegal aliens for any reason, Illegal is illegal no two ways about it

 

[Rustic]

Just because someone is a so-called dreamer does not make them a good person… Illegal is illegal no matter what term is used

 

[NYcarbineer]

I don't think blaming a million for the act of one is rational.

This is just 1 of a million stories though.

Okay, how many murders per 100,000 so-called dreamers have there been?

No one knows because no one has an accurate count on how many illegal aliens are in this country

So you can't argue that crime is a good argument for deporting dreamers who have committed no crimes.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Just because someone is a so-called dreamer does not make them a good person… Illegal is illegal no matter what term is used

Then try making an argument for deporting them that makes sense.