Voter ID law blocked in Wisconsin

[Chris]

In 2006, the Brennan Center published the results of a telephone survey conducted by the Opinion Research Corporation (ORC), an independent market research firm, on the number of voting-age Americans who have government-issued photo ID and proof of citizenship. 11% of all respondents to that survey did not have ready access to government-issued photo ID; the percentages of those without ID were even higher for certain demographic groups.

the Brennan Center’s findings are consistent with every independent study we have identified before and since:

•The 2001 Carter-Ford Commission on Election Reform found that between 6-11 percent of voting-age citizens lack driver’s license or alternate state-issued photo ID.


•A 2007 Indiana survey found that roughly 13 percent of registered Indiana voters lack an Indiana driver’s license or an alternate Indiana-issued photo ID.
•In a 2009 study in Indiana, Professors Matt Barreto, Stephen Nuño, and Gabriel Sanchez found that election restrictions like voter ID laws have the greatest impact on the elderly, racial and ethnic minorities, immigrants, those with less educational attainment and lower incomes. The professors found that of the citizen adult population, 81.4% of all white eligible adults had access to a driver’s license, whereas only 55.2% of black eligible adults had the same access. Indeed, study after study has similarly concluded that burdens to voting have a large and disparate impact on individuals with fewer resources, less education, smaller social networks, and those who are institutionally isolated.
•The 2007 study, Voter ID Requirements and the Disenfranchisement of Latino, Black, and Asian Voters, based on exit polls from the 2006 elections in California, New Mexico, and Washington State, found that minority voters are less likely than whites to be able to present photo identification.


•Many citizens who believe they have valid and sufficient photo IDs often do not. A national survey conducted after the November 2008 election found that 95% of respondents claimed to have a driver’s license, but 16% of those respondents lacked a license that was both current and valid. So of the of Americans who possess a photo ID, many lack proper identification that would enable to them to vote in elections under the new laws passed in Wisconsin, Kansas, Texas, South Carolina, and under legislation pending in many more states.

Debunking Misinformation on Photo ID | Brennan Center for Justice

 

[Skull Pilot]

So what?

You still haven't told me how asking a person to provethey are legally eligible to vote violates their rights.

 

[thereisnospoon]

In 2006, the Brennan Center published the results of a telephone survey conducted by the Opinion Research Corporation (ORC), an independent market research firm, on the number of voting-age Americans who have government-issued photo ID and proof of citizenship. 11% of all respondents to that survey did not have ready access to government-issued photo ID; the percentages of those without ID were even higher for certain demographic groups.

the Brennan Center’s findings are consistent with every independent study we have identified before and since:

•The 2001 Carter-Ford Commission on Election Reform found that between 6-11 percent of voting-age citizens lack driver’s license or alternate state-issued photo ID.


•A 2007 Indiana survey found that roughly 13 percent of registered Indiana voters lack an Indiana driver’s license or an alternate Indiana-issued photo ID.
•In a 2009 study in Indiana, Professors Matt Barreto, Stephen Nuño, and Gabriel Sanchez found that election restrictions like voter ID laws have the greatest impact on the elderly, racial and ethnic minorities, immigrants, those with less educational attainment and lower incomes. The professors found that of the citizen adult population, 81.4% of all white eligible adults had access to a driver’s license, whereas only 55.2% of black eligible adults had the same access. Indeed, study after study has similarly concluded that burdens to voting have a large and disparate impact on individuals with fewer resources, less education, smaller social networks, and those who are institutionally isolated.
•The 2007 study, Voter ID Requirements and the Disenfranchisement of Latino, Black, and Asian Voters, based on exit polls from the 2006 elections in California, New Mexico, and Washington State, found that minority voters are less likely than whites to be able to present photo identification.


•Many citizens who believe they have valid and sufficient photo IDs often do not. A national survey conducted after the November 2008 election found that 95% of respondents claimed to have a driver’s license, but 16% of those respondents lacked a license that was both current and valid. So of the of Americans who possess a photo ID, many lack proper identification that would enable to them to vote in elections under the new laws passed in Wisconsin, Kansas, Texas, South Carolina, and under legislation pending in many more states.

Debunking Misinformation on Photo ID | Brennan Center for Justice

So what? Every person has a responsibility to identify themselves via presentation of legal documents. Voting is perhaps the most important of all.
Why you people do not grasp this concept is a mystery.
It would be a different story if certain people did not have access to these documents. Such is not the case.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Hollywood makes fun of "cheese heads" but they are great people. It is incomprehensible that there is a hidden tribe of Wisconsinites who are unable to engage in anything pertaining to the modern world because they don't have a photo I.D. but they are desperate to vote for democrats.

I am simply amazed a person who calls themselves a Republican would want more unnecessary laws.

No one has provided a shred of evidence such a law is needed, and yet they want a Voter ID law anyway.

This is conservatism?

It would be unnecessary if people were honest.

 

[Too Tall]

Judicial activism rather than the rule of law in Wisconsin. After seeing union school teachers calling in sick to riot it's no surprise. Maybe there is a tribe of ice fishermen who have no ID and are desperate to vote.

So it is judicial activism to void a law that violates the Constitution, eh?

You sure you want to go with that?

Is it really a violation of the Constitution to require a picture ID to vote? The next time you asked to show your ID when you cash a check, buy an airline ticket, or use a credit care, why don't you pull out your copy of the Constitution and refuse to show your ID. I would like to know what article in the Constitution FORBIDS a requirement to show ID when a Police Officer stops you for speeding.

 

[Too Tall]

In 2006, the Brennan Center published the results of a telephone survey conducted by the Opinion Research Corporation (ORC), an independent market research firm, on the number of voting-age Americans who have government-issued photo ID and proof of citizenship. 11% of all respondents to that survey did not have ready access to government-issued photo ID; the percentages of those without ID were even higher for certain demographic groups.

the Brennan Center’s findings are consistent with every independent study we have identified before and since:

•The 2001 Carter-Ford Commission on Election Reform found that between 6-11 percent of voting-age citizens lack driver’s license or alternate state-issued photo ID.


•A 2007 Indiana survey found that roughly 13 percent of registered Indiana voters lack an Indiana driver’s license or an alternate Indiana-issued photo ID.
•In a 2009 study in Indiana, Professors Matt Barreto, Stephen Nuño, and Gabriel Sanchez found that election restrictions like voter ID laws have the greatest impact on the elderly, racial and ethnic minorities, immigrants, those with less educational attainment and lower incomes. The professors found that of the citizen adult population, 81.4% of all white eligible adults had access to a driver’s license, whereas only 55.2% of black eligible adults had the same access. Indeed, study after study has similarly concluded that burdens to voting have a large and disparate impact on individuals with fewer resources, less education, smaller social networks, and those who are institutionally isolated.
•The 2007 study, Voter ID Requirements and the Disenfranchisement of Latino, Black, and Asian Voters, based on exit polls from the 2006 elections in California, New Mexico, and Washington State, found that minority voters are less likely than whites to be able to present photo identification.
•Many citizens who believe they have valid and sufficient photo IDs often do not. A national survey conducted after the November 2008 election found that 95% of respondents claimed to have a driver’s license, but 16% of those respondents lacked a license that was both current and valid. So of the of Americans who possess a photo ID, many lack proper identification that would enable to them to vote in elections under the new laws passed in Wisconsin, Kansas, Texas, South Carolina, and under legislation pending in many more states.

Debunking Misinformation on Photo ID | Brennan Center for Justice

I find it hard to believe that 44.8% of eligible black adults do not have access to a driver's license. What percentage of them are driving illegally?

 

[boilermaker55]

Prove to the board the outrageous voter fraud numbers.

 

[Erand7899]

Republicans are desperate to keep black people from voting.

I think in the end this will backfire on them.


Ah, that soft racism rears its ugly head again. Apparently, you assume that Black people are somehow less capable of obtaining picture IDs than White people. How would those poor, downtrodden Black people ever succeed in life without the support of compassionate White people guiding their footsteps?

If there is any real discrimination in voter ID laws, it would apply to the poor and elderly. There are just as many poor and elderly Republicans as there are poor and elderly Democrats. Perhaps you think that the poor and elderly Republicans are just inherently smarter than poor and elderly Democrats?

 

[gallantwarrior]

The solution to the voter ID problem is to require an ID card that's issued for free, like a Social Security Card.

Of course it would be a whole lot more effective if the ID card itself were more secure than a flimsy piece of paper with a name and number.

Eh, ya get what ya pay for.

Do you mean like this?

Georgia law provides for the issuance of a free identification card to citizens eighteen (18) and over who are registered voters. In order to be eligible for a free identification card, the voter must have no acceptable proof of identity to use when voting. These free identification cards are issued at all Customer Service Centers and are valid for ten (10) years.

Georgia Identification Card for Voting Purposes

I am reasonably sure most other states that have picture ID requirements have this same provision. If the Wisconsin law does not have this requirement, they should amend it, but I will bet it already has it.

Sign me up for a dozen!

 

[Conservative]

So what?

You still haven't told me how asking a person to provethey are legally eligible to vote violates their rights.

Isn't their word good enough??? I mean, no one would lie about who they are, would they?

 

[Syphon]

So what?

You still haven't told me how asking a person to provethey are legally eligible to vote violates their rights.

Isn't their word good enough??? I mean, no one would lie about who they are, would they?

can we implement the same Voter ID laws for Gun control then?

 

[Mr.Nick]

Madison - A Dane County judge will rule on whether to permanently block the state's new voter ID law on Monday, less than a week after a different judge blocked the law for the short term.

Dane County Judge Richard Niess said from the bench Friday he would rule Monday on whether the requirement to show photo identification at the polls violates the state constitution.

His announcement came three days after Dane County Judge David Flanagan issued a temporary injunction halting the photo ID requirement for the April 3 election.

On Friday, the state Department of Justice asked Flanagan to stay his injunction while it appeals the case.

Flanagan has come under fire because he signed a petition to recall Gov. Scott Walker, who approved the voter ID law and is named in the case he heard. Niess did not sign the recall petition, according to his office.

The ruling that will come out Monday is in a case brought by the League of Women Voters of Wisconsin that argues the state constitution allows the Legislature to exclude felons and mentally incompetent people from voting, but not other classes of people. The new law creates a new category of people who cannot vote - those without photo ID - and thus violates the state constitution, the lawsuit argues.

Whether Wisconsin's photo ID law will stand is widely considered to be decided by a higher court. In addition to the two Dane County cases, there are two challenges to the law in federal court in Milwaukee.

Judge to decide Monday on whether to permanently block voter ID - JSOnline

Funny how you need an ID to: Drive a car, get a job, cash a check, legally transfer properties, get a mortgage, get a passport, buy alcohol, buy cigarettes, get any form of additional ID that proves who you are...

Oh but these fucking idiots don't have that simple ID???

So basically what you're saying is all those idiots with no ID are driving illegally, don't have jobs, don't cash checks, don't buy property, don't rent property, don't smoke, don't drink??

Oh yeah and 5 fucking dollars for a state ID is just way too much money???

How about democrats just want to commit epic voter fraud????

You see Chris you're either gullible, stupid or nefarious - that or all three..

 

[thereisnospoon]

Judicial activism rather than the rule of law in Wisconsin. After seeing union school teachers calling in sick to riot it's no surprise. Maybe there is a tribe of ice fishermen who have no ID and are desperate to vote.

So it is judicial activism to void a law that violates the Constitution, eh?

You sure you want to go with that?

Is it really a violation of the Constitution to require a picture ID to vote? The next time you asked to show your ID when you cash a check, buy an airline ticket, or use a credit care, why don't you pull out your copy of the Constitution and refuse to show your ID. I would like to know what article in the Constitution FORBIDS a requirement to show ID when a Police Officer stops you for speeding.

These people who oppose voter ID don't know which way to turn.
It's actually quite amusing.
When it comes to libs and voter ID, methinks doth protest too much.

 

[thereisnospoon]

So what?

You still haven't told me how asking a person to provethey are legally eligible to vote violates their rights.

Isn't their word good enough??? I mean, no one would lie about who they are, would they?

can we implement the same Voter ID laws for Gun control then?

Another example of non-sequiturs spewed in desperation.

 

[Syphon]

Isn't their word good enough??? I mean, no one would lie about who they are, would they?

can we implement the same Voter ID laws for Gun control then?

Another example of non-sequiturs spewed in desperation.

rigggghhhttt because making restrictions on the right vote is ok, but making restrictions on the right to bear arms is not...

only a wing nut can use that logic.

 

[Full-Auto]

can we implement the same Voter ID laws for Gun control then?

Another example of non-sequiturs spewed in desperation.

rigggghhhttt because making restrictions on the right vote is ok, but making restrictions on the right to bear arms is not...

only a wing nut can use that logic.

The restrictions for arms is already in place.


Tissue?

 

[Syphon]

Another example of non-sequiturs spewed in desperation.

rigggghhhttt because making restrictions on the right vote is ok, but making restrictions on the right to bear arms is not...

only a wing nut can use that logic.

The restrictions for arms is already in place.


Tissue?

except the right wants to repeal that law....
http://www.guncontrolkills.com/63/guncontrol/repeal-the-lautenberg-amendment/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/07/arizona-house-gun-free-school-zones_n_1327811.html
http://www.independentpoliticalrepo...-person-calls-for-repeal-of-gun-control-laws/

 

[thereisnospoon]

Hollywood makes fun of "cheese heads" but they are great people. It is incomprehensible that there is a hidden tribe of Wisconsinites who are unable to engage in anything pertaining to the modern world because they don't have a photo I.D. but they are desperate to vote for democrats.

I am simply amazed a person who calls themselves a Republican would want more unnecessary laws.

No one has provided a shred of evidence such a law is needed, and yet they want a Voter ID law anyway.

This is conservatism?

Nor can anyone provide a shred of evidence as to ‘voter fraud’ with regard to identification, it doesn’t exist:

A recent study by the nonpartisan Brennan Center for Justice found just seven cases of voter fraud out of three million votes cast in Wisconsin during the 2004 election, a fraud rate of 0.0002 percent. All seven of these cases involved persons with felony convictions who weren’t eligible to vote after being released from prison.

Despite A 0.0002 Percent Rate Of Voter Fraud, Reince Priebus Claims Wisconsin Is 'Riddled With Voter Fraud' | ThinkProgress

Some of the desperate Republican attempts to keep college students from voting are almost comical in their transparent partisanship. No college ID card in Wisconsin meets the state’s new stringent requirements (as lawmakers knew full well), so the elections board proposed that colleges add stickers to the cards with expiration dates and signatures. Republican lawmakers protested that the stickers would lead to — yes, voter fraud.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/10/opinion/the-myth-of-voter-fraud.html?_r=1

We also see rightists opposed to a state court making decisions as to its election laws (‘states’ rights’).

This is conservatism?

Next time you fill out a survey add obfuscation as one of your favorite hobbies.

 

[Full-Auto]

rigggghhhttt because making restrictions on the right vote is ok, but making restrictions on the right to bear arms is not...

only a wing nut can use that logic.

The restrictions for arms is already in place.


Tissue?

except the right wants to repeal that law....
Repeal The Lautenberg Amendment | Gun Control Kills .com
Arizona House Votes To Repeal Gun-Free School Zones
LP-Pres: Carl Person Calls for Repeal of Gun Control Laws | Independent Political Report

No id to vote, no id to purchase a firearm.

Sounds fair.......... Both are rights.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Madison - A Dane County judge will rule on whether to permanently block the state's new voter ID law on Monday, less than a week after a different judge blocked the law for the short term.

Dane County Judge Richard Niess said from the bench Friday he would rule Monday on whether the requirement to show photo identification at the polls violates the state constitution.

His announcement came three days after Dane County Judge David Flanagan issued a temporary injunction halting the photo ID requirement for the April 3 election.

On Friday, the state Department of Justice asked Flanagan to stay his injunction while it appeals the case.

Flanagan has come under fire because he signed a petition to recall Gov. Scott Walker, who approved the voter ID law and is named in the case he heard. Niess did not sign the recall petition, according to his office.

The ruling that will come out Monday is in a case brought by the League of Women Voters of Wisconsin that argues the state constitution allows the Legislature to exclude felons and mentally incompetent people from voting, but not other classes of people. The new law creates a new category of people who cannot vote - those without photo ID - and thus violates the state constitution, the lawsuit argues.

Whether Wisconsin's photo ID law will stand is widely considered to be decided by a higher court. In addition to the two Dane County cases, there are two challenges to the law in federal court in Milwaukee.

Judge to decide Monday on whether to permanently block voter ID - JSOnline

Funny how you need an ID to: Drive a car, get a job, cash a check, legally transfer properties, get a mortgage, get a passport, buy alcohol, buy cigarettes, get any form of additional ID that proves who you are...

Oh but these fucking idiots don't have that simple ID???

So basically what you're saying is all those idiots with no ID are driving illegally, don't have jobs, don't cash checks, don't buy property, don't rent property, don't smoke, don't drink??

Oh yeah and 5 fucking dollars for a state ID is just way too much money???

How about democrats just want to commit epic voter fraud????

You see Chris you're either gullible, stupid or nefarious - that or all three..

All of the above.
I view people such as Chris as having absolute blind loyalty to Obama or even a messianic view of Obama.
It's really sickening there exists people who place politics over all else.
Those on the left insist they are for civil rights, for the little guy, etc. Yet they do not see their country being destroyed and built in one person's image of what it should be. Not for the good of people but in support of his( Obama) own legacy.