U.S. Army should take control of American Govmnt, From President Obama.

[Emma]

This is literally true: the Right's reaction to yesterday's announcement -- we're too afraid to allow trials and due process in our country -- is the textbook definition of "surrendering to terrorists." It's the same fear they've been spewing for years. As always, the Right's tough-guy leaders wallow in a combination of pitiful fear and cynical manipulation of the fear of their followers. Indeed, it's hard to find any group of people on the globe who exude this sort of weakness and fear more than the American Right.

People in capitals all over the world have hosted trials of high-level terrorist suspects using their normal justice system. They didn't allow fear to drive them to build island-prisons or create special commissions to depart from their rules of justice. Spain held an open trial in Madrid for the individuals accused of that country's 2004 train bombings. The British put those accused of perpetrating the London subway bombings on trial right in their normal courthouse in London. Indonesia gave public trials using standard court procedures to the individuals who bombed a nightclub in Bali. India used a Mumbai courtroom to try the sole surviving terrorist who participated in the 2008 massacre of hundreds of residents. In Argentina, the Israelis captured Adolf Eichmann, one of the most notorious Nazi war criminals, and brought him to Jerusalem to stand trial for his crimes.

It's only America's Right that is too scared of the Terrorists -- or which exploits the fears of their followers -- to insist that no regular trials can be held and that "the safety and security of the American people" mean that we cannot even have them in our country to give them trials. As usual, it's the weakest and most frightened among us who rely on the most flamboyant, theatrical displays of "strength" and "courage" to hide what they really are. Then again, this is the same political movement whose "leaders" -- people like John Cornyn and Pat Roberts -- cowardly insisted that we must ignore the Constitution in order to stay alive: the exact antithesis of the core value on which the nation was founded. Given that, it's hardly surprising that they exude a level of fear of Terrorists that is unmatched virtually anywhere in the world. It is, however, noteworthy that the position they advocate -- it's too scary to have normal trials in our country of Terrorists -- is as pure a surrender to the Terrorists as it gets.

Capitulating so completely to terrorists as to forgo America's justice system, which Jefferson called "the only anchor yet imagined by man which can hold a government to the principles of its constitution" because you're so terrified of the X-Men powers of Islamic terrorists is shameful.

Calling for a coup and military dictatorship that would set the country back 300 years, that's something else entirely. Beyond treasonous, it's so far off the deep end I imagine you can see the other side. How's North Korea looking? Should that be our model?

What you've quoted here is perfect. There's nothing left to be said.

 

[Harry Dresden]

And yet, he calls liberal fascists...

you are dealing with 52nd St. here......

 

[Harry Dresden]

Hahahhaaaa.....what the fuck are people smoking? Having a trial in NYC is concern to be attacked.....but invading and occupying two nations that never attacked us generates no threat? Fucking hillbillies and the internet are not a good combination.

so you were against the attack against Afghanistan i take it?....

 

[BasicGreatGuy]

With the recent decision of current attorney General ,Eric Holder to move the Sept 11 Terrorist to a New York City Federal civilian court, on U.S. soil, thus making New York City a Terrorists target again, I must suggest a U.S. Army temporary takeover of the United States government from the Obama administration. The U.S. Army could install a leadership tribunal of three Generals to run the country, and they could also appoint other
U.S. Army personell to run the other areas of the American government.

I feel the Obama Administration, and U.S. attorney Eric Holder, are jeopardizing
American safety and , and national security with their decision to bring Terrorists War combattants to American soil for prosecution, and their incorrect decision to close Guantanamo Bay Millitary dentention center in Cuba.

We need the U.S. Army to take over the America governement now. They must by means
of some emergency edict take control away from President Obama Now. The President
is endangering the lives of Americans, and people of the free world with his decisions, and the decisions of his Attorney general Eric Holder. They must both be removed from the America government, and detained by the U.S. Army.

We need an American milltary take over now before it is to late.
The Terrorists will target America again.

I don't agree with the President's decision. I think it is wrong on many levels, the least of which is a Constitutional one.

I find your post to be ill-conceived and contrary to the Constitution. In that light, you and the President have something in common.

Read the Constitution.

 

[JW Frogen]

I must firmly oppose any army taking over any democracy anywhere in the world.

Do it right, the Navy.

 

[Harry Dresden]

So true, the fascists have a hard time facing up to what they are at heart. Seems democracy offends their fascist militaristic tendencies.

and what offends an EXTREME leftist like you?......just wondering...

 

[Harry Dresden]

Fuck him, the moderators of this message board have a duty to report this thread to Federal Authorities, as do all REAL Americans.

all it takes is one call Wry....

 

[Liability]

With the recent decision of current attorney General ,Eric Holder to move the Sept 11 Terrorist to a New York City Federal civilian court, on U.S. soil, thus making New York City a Terrorists target again, I must suggest a U.S. Army temporary takeover of the United States government from the Obama administration. * * * *

^ Dopiest most fucking retarded post of the year (not counting Contumacious's and Yukon's frequent posts consisting of the endorsement of rape and pedophilia).

52ndGutter is a fucktard.

 

[Harry Dresden]

On a side note......it's completely useless to label everything you disagree with as "Liberal." Whenever anyone tosses that term around they are sending the message they disagree with an issue but can't explain why in clear terms or offer a better alternative.

now you can see how many here feel when you disagree with certain left leaning posters and you get called a Righty or a Neo-con....

 

[oreo]

With the recent decision of current attorney General ,Eric Holder to move the Sept 11 Terrorist to a New York City Federal civilian court, on U.S. soil, thus making New York City a Terrorists target again, I must suggest a U.S. Army temporary takeover of the United States government from the Obama administration. The U.S. Army could install a leadership tribunal of three Generals to run the country, and they could also appoint other
U.S. Army personell to run the other areas of the American government.

I feel the Obama Administration, and U.S. attorney Eric Holder, are jeopardizing
American safety and , and national security with their decision to bring Terrorists War combattants to American soil for prosecution, and their incorrect decision to close Guantanamo Bay Millitary dentention center in Cuba.

We need the U.S. Army to take over the America governement now. They must by means
of some emergency edict take control away from President Obama Now. The President
is endangering the lives of Americans, and people of the free world with his decisions, and the decisions of his Attorney general Eric Holder. They must both be removed from the America government, and detained by the U.S. Army.

We need an American milltary take over now before it is to late.
The Terrorists will target America again.

They can't do that--after all he is the "commacher & speecher"--

 

[Rinata]

With the recent decision of current attorney General ,Eric Holder to move the Sept 11 Terrorist to a New York City Federal civilian court, on U.S. soil, thus making New York City a Terrorists target again, I must suggest a U.S. Army temporary takeover of the United States government from the Obama administration. The U.S. Army could install a leadership tribunal of three Generals to run the country, and they could also appoint other
U.S. Army personell to run the other areas of the American government.

I feel the Obama Administration, and U.S. attorney Eric Holder, are jeopardizing
American safety and , and national security with their decision to bring Terrorists War combattants to American soil for prosecution, and their incorrect decision to close Guantanamo Bay Millitary dentention center in Cuba.

We need the U.S. Army to take over the America governement now. They must by means
of some emergency edict take control away from President Obama Now. The President
is endangering the lives of Americans, and people of the free world with his decisions, and the decisions of his Attorney general Eric Holder. They must both be removed from the America government, and detained by the U.S. Army.

We need an American milltary take over now before it is to late.
The Terrorists will target America again.

Citizens like you are a bigger threat to this country than any foreigners will ever be.

 

[Rinata]

52nd Street,

I understand your total frustration and fear but to call for the Military to overthrow our Gov. is a dangerous thing to suggest. Perhaps you can channel your frustration a little better then this?

Really I do know how you feel fear for this country and it seems like we are running out of time. Rest on that fact that there are MILLIONS and MILLIONS feeling the same way and that number is growing each day.

I hate these kind of broad statements that have no proof of validity whatsoever. Speak only for yourself, unless you have proof.

 

[Douger]

Sorry. Too late.
The CIA/CFR/The Chosen already took over the govt.Years ago.
They tell the brainwashed idiots referred to as soldiers what to do.
They tell the visible govt what to do. Or get accident-ed" AKA JFK RFK Wellstone etc.

They do NOT give a damn about you....... well depends how much money ya got to keep them up and running ?
Cocaine and opium alone can't fuel their budget.It helps.
Wave flag.
Pay taxes.
They'll take care of everything.

 

[ihopehefails]

I understand how you feel about a government imposing socialism onto the people but has it ever occurred to you that some people like socialism. I think a better solution that would allow everyone to live under the society they want is sucession from the union. Its a hypothetical proposal but can you imagine another that yields the greatest overall happiness of each citizen and maintains every citizen's right to live under the government they want.

Lets now imagine something a little less destructive to the nation such as state nullification of unconstitutional laws that go outside its delegated powers. Every state can then simply nullify whatever law they don't like and states that do like the socialist stuff can not nullify those federal laws. This way everyone is happy.

 

[CurveLight]

Hahahhaaaa.....what the fuck are people smoking? Having a trial in NYC is concern to be attacked.....but invading and occupying two nations that never attacked us generates no threat? Fucking hillbillies and the internet are not a good combination.

Does anyone besides me find it alarming that there are so many people on this board who think that locale has anything to do with intelligence?

Yet these same people would have a fit if anyone said that black people from Africa are less intelligent than we are.

My comment was not about geography but a Nationalistic mindset combined with access to the internet. Under this Bush is a hillbilly as are many on this board.

 

[namvet]

With the recent decision of current attorney General ,Eric Holder to move the Sept 11 Terrorist to a New York City Federal civilian court, on U.S. soil, thus making New York City a Terrorists target again, I must suggest a U.S. Army temporary takeover of the United States government from the Obama administration. The U.S. Army could install a leadership tribunal of three Generals to run the country, and they could also appoint other
U.S. Army personell to run the other areas of the American government.

I feel the Obama Administration, and U.S. attorney Eric Holder, are jeopardizing
American safety and , and national security with their decision to bring Terrorists War combattants to American soil for prosecution, and their incorrect decision to close Guantanamo Bay Millitary dentention center in Cuba.

We need the U.S. Army to take over the America governement now. They must by means
of some emergency edict take control away from President Obama Now. The President
is endangering the lives of Americans, and people of the free world with his decisions, and the decisions of his Attorney general Eric Holder. They must both be removed from the America government, and detained by the U.S. Army.

We need an American milltary take over now before it is to late.
The Terrorists will target America again.

Citizens like you are a bigger threat to this country than any foreigners will ever be.

Citizens like us have never ever heard an alleged gov call us thugs and gangs and nazi's. have you???? so we see them as a bigger threat than any terrorists. and they are.

 

[saveliberty]

With the recent decision of current attorney General ,Eric Holder to move the Sept 11 Terrorist to a New York City Federal civilian court, on U.S. soil, thus making New York City a Terrorists target again, I must suggest a U.S. Army temporary takeover of the United States government from the Obama administration. The U.S. Army could install a leadership tribunal of three Generals to run the country, and they could also appoint other
U.S. Army personell to run the other areas of the American government.

I feel the Obama Administration, and U.S. attorney Eric Holder, are jeopardizing
American safety and , and national security with their decision to bring Terrorists War combattants to American soil for prosecution, and their incorrect decision to close Guantanamo Bay Millitary dentention center in Cuba.

We need the U.S. Army to take over the America governement now. They must by means
of some emergency edict take control away from President Obama Now. The President
is endangering the lives of Americans, and people of the free world with his decisions, and the decisions of his Attorney general Eric Holder. They must both be removed from the America government, and detained by the U.S. Army.

We need an American milltary take over now before it is to late.
The Terrorists will target America again.

Citizens like you are a bigger threat to this country than any foreigners will ever be.

An unfounded statement Rinata. You have no proof. In reality, 52ndStreet will probably not kill anyone. The 9/11 terrorists are way ahead on that count. If you had said, this type of thinking is not constructive and hurts our nation, I could see your point. Once again your emotional response has gotten the best of you. As a side note, I like your new pic of the President. It is a tough job and I'm glad he had at least one good moment. That is a great smile.

 

[Wry Catcher]

I understand how you feel about a government imposing socialism onto the people but has it ever occurred to you that some people like socialism. I think a better solution that would allow everyone to live under the society they want is sucession from the union. Its a hypothetical proposal but can you imagine another that yields the greatest overall happiness of each citizen and maintains every citizen's right to live under the government they want.

Lets now imagine something a little less destructive to the nation such as state nullification of unconstitutional laws that go outside its delegated powers. Every state can then simply nullify whatever law they don't like and states that do like the socialist stuff can not nullify those federal laws. This way everyone is happy.

Want to be happy, ihopehefails? Move. Go somewhere else, find a nation that meets all of your needs and wants, and go there. Get the fuck out of the United States - you and
52nd Street don't deserve to live here.
There are white markers on graves here at home and across the world where true heros gave their lives for our Constitution, our people and the freedoms all of us enjoy.
I get it, you hope the elected president of our United States fails - and hope to un-unite us because you didn't get your way. It would be easy to call you and your kind a spoiled child and ignore your ignorant and hysterical rants. But too many gave too much for me not to call you out.
Get the fuck out of here, we don't need anti-America assholes who would change our laws simply because they didn't get there way - and an anti-American asshole is exactly what and who you are.

 

[bodecea]

With the recent decision of current attorney General ,Eric Holder to move the Sept 11 Terrorist to a New York City Federal civilian court, on U.S. soil, thus making New York City a Terrorists target again, I must suggest a U.S. Army temporary takeover of the United States government from the Obama administration. The U.S. Army could install a leadership tribunal of three Generals to run the country, and they could also appoint other
U.S. Army personell to run the other areas of the American government.

I feel the Obama Administration, and U.S. attorney Eric Holder, are jeopardizing
American safety and , and national security with their decision to bring Terrorists War combattants to American soil for prosecution, and their incorrect decision to close Guantanamo Bay Millitary dentention center in Cuba.

We need the U.S. Army to take over the America governement now. They must by means
of some emergency edict take control away from President Obama Now. The President
is endangering the lives of Americans, and people of the free world with his decisions, and the decisions of his Attorney general Eric Holder. They must both be removed from the America government, and detained by the U.S. Army.

We need an American milltary take over now before it is to late.
The Terrorists will target America again.

Citizens like you are a bigger threat to this country than any foreigners will ever be.

Citizens like us have never ever heard an alleged gov call us thugs and gangs and nazi's. have you???? so we see them as a bigger threat than any terrorists. and they are.

So, you support an overthrow of our Constitution because your feelings got hurt by a little name calling by some out of line individuals...NOT the government itself. You ARE a wussy, aren't you?

 

[paperview]

I'm late to this thread...but I'm assuming someone has already reported the treasonous bastard in the OP to the FBI.