U.S. Army should take control of American Govmnt, From President Obama.

[bodecea]

patriotism

You don't seem to know the differance.

I fought for it. you shit on it.

You remind me more and more of Timothy McVeigh with every post.

 

[bodecea]

That one word query is too much for polky...Tone it down a notch, eh?

Seriously? Polk doesn't seem to see the danger, and is one of those that HATES his country and wants to see it knocked down a few notches.

I don't see Polk hating his country at all. But since you are making such a serious accusation, you have proof, right?

Tommy just likes to shoot off his mouth.

The alcohol has been known to do that to him. He has a history of it.

 

[bodecea]

Hahahhaaaa.....what the fuck are people smoking? Having a trial in NYC is concern to be attacked.....but invading and occupying two nations that never attacked us generates no threat? Fucking hillbillies and the internet are not a good combination.

Having the trial in NY won't up the attack threat, but I think its a bad move to allow POWs access to civilian courts! I think closing Gitmo was a poor move! A move simply made to placate liberals at home and worldwide! Civilian courts call for discovery! Do you really want sensitive information shared with the other side. The government will also have to release sensitive information to the court and eventually to the public to prosecute these guys!

NO, this is 9/10 thinking about liberals! Closed doored military tribunals were not perfect, but they were the best way!

Obama, in my opinion will go down like Carter as one of the worst, but a South American style coup of the government is light-years away from being needed!

None of this is without precedent. We try murderers and rapists and bankers in courts. I'm sure we can secure these defendants without calamity.

What is it about the American justice system you fear so? The fairness, the openness or the expedience? And what is it about America you honor so much? The freedoms and the security of the American justice system?

The Righties are pissing their pants over this. Really makes one wonder at their belief in our Justice System, doesn't it?

 

[saveliberty]

US Army take control of the government? No thank you.

Terrorist trials in NY? I would like to see them in a more neutral setting, perhaps the Midwest. I'd say LA, but no one gets justice there. How is that for a righty response?

 

[CurveLight]

Hahahhaaaa.....what the fuck are people smoking? Having a trial in NYC is concern to be attacked.....but invading and occupying two nations that never attacked us generates no threat? Fucking hillbillies and the internet are not a good combination.

Having the trial in NY won't up the attack threat, but I think its a bad move to allow POWs access to civilian courts! I think closing Gitmo was a poor move! A move simply made to placate liberals at home and worldwide! Civilian courts call for discovery! Do you really want sensitive information shared with the other side. The government will also have to release sensitive information to the court and eventually to the public to prosecute these guys!

NO, this is 9/10 thinking about liberals! Closed doored military tribunals were not perfect, but they were the best way!

Obama, in my opinion will go down like Carter as one of the worst, but a South American style coup of the government is light-years away from being needed!

This is the double standard of the PW crowd. They claim geneva conventions can't apply because the suspects are not uniformed soldiers....but they want the suspects to be treated as uniformed soldiers to have military tribunals.

This move puts the suspects in the highest level of danger and quite possibly the Officers charged with escorting them.

On a side note......it's completely useless to label everything you disagree with as "Liberal." Whenever anyone tosses that term around they are sending the message they disagree with an issue but can't explain why in clear terms or offer a better alternative.

 

[CurveLight]

yeah! that's right dipshit, we were never attacked, what the hell are you smoking? oh and that black dude did not hit the white woman either?

Do you know how to read? I never said we were not attacked......read the post again and don't forget to somehow blame me for your inability to read. Should I have typed it slower?

And I never said mcintyre didn't hit her.....I said more information was needed before reaching a solid conclusion.

I know how to read and you know how to dance!

I said we invaded two nations that never attacked us. You responded by claiming I said we were never attacked. You probably realize you misread the post but there is way too much pride to admit it.

 

[saveliberty]

Hahahhaaaa.....what the fuck are people smoking? Having a trial in NYC is concern to be attacked.....but invading and occupying two nations that never attacked us generates no threat? Fucking hillbillies and the internet are not a good combination.

Having the trial in NY won't up the attack threat, but I think its a bad move to allow POWs access to civilian courts! I think closing Gitmo was a poor move! A move simply made to placate liberals at home and worldwide! Civilian courts call for discovery! Do you really want sensitive information shared with the other side. The government will also have to release sensitive information to the court and eventually to the public to prosecute these guys!

NO, this is 9/10 thinking about liberals! Closed doored military tribunals were not perfect, but they were the best way!

Obama, in my opinion will go down like Carter as one of the worst, but a South American style coup of the government is light-years away from being needed!

This is the double standard of the PW crowd. They claim geneva conventions can't apply because the suspects are not uniformed soldiers....but they want the suspects to be treated as uniformed soldiers to have military tribunals.

This move puts the suspects in the highest level of danger and quite possibly the Officers charged with escorting them.

On a side note......it's completely useless to label everything you disagree with as "Liberal." Whenever anyone tosses that term around they are sending the message they disagree with an issue but can't explain why in clear terms or offer a better alternative.

Or they're talking to a liberal. Funny, but when someone disagrees with me they don't call me a liberal. There goes your theory.

 

[SFC Ollie]

I seriously doubt that the FBI will spend more than 10 seconds reading this thread.

However, I do disagree with any Military take over of the United States Government. This would be a very serious step and one not taken lightly. We have the power to change the constitution, but it was purposely made difficult to do so.

Now if we had any proof that Obama was breaking any article or amendment of the constitution then I would be screaming for impeachment.

Unfortunately Stupidity is not a reason for impeachment. And this is the stupidest thing I have seen any president do during my lifetime. And I served under 6 Presidents.

You in a coma between 2000-2008...

No I was quit awake and wrote at least 30 letters to the white house during those years. I doubt Mr Bush ever saw them but you do what you can. Mr Obama has already received 9 letters, He must be looking for a record.

 

[CurveLight]

yeah! that's right dipshit, we were never attacked, what the hell are you smoking? oh and that black dude did not hit the white woman either?

Do you know how to read? I never said we were not attacked......read the post again and don't forget to somehow blame me for your inability to read. Should I have typed it slower?

And I never said mcintyre didn't hit her.....I said more information was needed before reaching a solid conclusion.

Are you are trying to infer that Al Qaeda, who had the protection and partnership of the Taliban, never attacked us? Your not a 9/11 truther are ya?

The nation of afghanistan never attacked us. The taliban offered to help get bin laden on the simple request we show evidence he was responsible. We turned that offer down and it shows their "partnership" was not nearly as intimate as some claim.

"...the Taliban would require evidence that Bin Laden was behind the September 11 terrorist attacks in the US, but added: "we would be ready to hand him over to a third country."
Bush rejects Taliban offer to hand Bin Laden over | World news | guardian.co.uk

As for 9/11 I don't know what happened that day but I do know something was fucked up to drive some of the victims family members to demand an investigation. Most people don't know that group is the source of the "truth movement." They refused the pay off money from the government because they wanted accurate answers more than money. How insane is it to try and demonize fellow americans for wanting accurate answers?

I'm also not a liberal and if you think I am then start a thread and prove it. Otherwise your silly comments suggest you don't know what you are talking about.

 

[CurveLight]

Having the trial in NY won't up the attack threat, but I think its a bad move to allow POWs access to civilian courts! I think closing Gitmo was a poor move! A move simply made to placate liberals at home and worldwide! Civilian courts call for discovery! Do you really want sensitive information shared with the other side. The government will also have to release sensitive information to the court and eventually to the public to prosecute these guys!

NO, this is 9/10 thinking about liberals! Closed doored military tribunals were not perfect, but they were the best way!

Obama, in my opinion will go down like Carter as one of the worst, but a South American style coup of the government is light-years away from being needed!

This is the double standard of the PW crowd. They claim geneva conventions can't apply because the suspects are not uniformed soldiers....but they want the suspects to be treated as uniformed soldiers to have military tribunals.

This move puts the suspects in the highest level of danger and quite possibly the Officers charged with escorting them.

On a side note......it's completely useless to label everything you disagree with as "Liberal." Whenever anyone tosses that term around they are sending the message they disagree with an issue but can't explain why in clear terms or offer a better alternative.

Or they're talking to a liberal. Funny, but when someone disagrees with me they don't call me a liberal. There goes your theory.

Holy shit. Read the post again. I didn't say people say "liberal" everytime they disagree with someone. I said WHEN WHEN WHEN WHEN WHEN they use it in that context. Some examples:

Libtard

That judge is liberal!

The trial is moved to nyc to placate liberals!

(the never ending) liberal media!

Blah blah.

 

[Father Time]

I want a "Temporary" U.S. Army takover of the American government. I feel the Obama administration
is setting the country up for another Terrorists attact.

What you suggest is rankest treason.

patriotism

Treason. Obama is not denying citizens any rights by having trials in NYC nor is this any sort of power grab so to say we should overthrow the country over this, that's treason.

 

[Father Time]

I want a "Temporary" U.S. Army takover of the American government. I feel the Obama administration
is setting the country up for another Terrorists attact.

Now you know how the people who didn't second Bush as the second coming felt between 2000-2008...

Yeah and most of them would've settled for impeachment.

 

[Father Time]

Having the trial in NY won't up the attack threat, but I think its a bad move to allow POWs access to civilian courts! I think closing Gitmo was a poor move! A move simply made to placate liberals at home and worldwide! Civilian courts call for discovery! Do you really want sensitive information shared with the other side. The government will also have to release sensitive information to the court and eventually to the public to prosecute these guys!

NO, this is 9/10 thinking about liberals! Closed doored military tribunals were not perfect, but they were the best way!

Obama, in my opinion will go down like Carter as one of the worst, but a South American style coup of the government is light-years away from being needed!

None of this is without precedent. We try murderers and rapists and bankers in courts. I'm sure we can secure these defendants without calamity.

What is it about the American justice system you fear so? The fairness, the openness or the expedience? And what is it about America you honor so much? The freedoms and the security of the American justice system?

The Righties are pissing their pants over this. Really makes one wonder at their belief in our Justice System, doesn't it?

I grew suspicious when they started claiming that letting suspected terrorists have any sort of trial was pandering to terrorists.

 

[Father Time]

Having the trial in NY won't up the attack threat, but I think its a bad move to allow POWs access to civilian courts! I think closing Gitmo was a poor move! A move simply made to placate liberals at home and worldwide! Civilian courts call for discovery! Do you really want sensitive information shared with the other side. The government will also have to release sensitive information to the court and eventually to the public to prosecute these guys!

NO, this is 9/10 thinking about liberals! Closed doored military tribunals were not perfect, but they were the best way!

Obama, in my opinion will go down like Carter as one of the worst, but a South American style coup of the government is light-years away from being needed!

This is the double standard of the PW crowd. They claim geneva conventions can't apply because the suspects are not uniformed soldiers....but they want the suspects to be treated as uniformed soldiers to have military tribunals.

This move puts the suspects in the highest level of danger and quite possibly the Officers charged with escorting them.

On a side note......it's completely useless to label everything you disagree with as "Liberal." Whenever anyone tosses that term around they are sending the message they disagree with an issue but can't explain why in clear terms or offer a better alternative.

Or they're talking to a liberal. Funny, but when someone disagrees with me they don't call me a liberal. There goes your theory.

You've never tried to have a debate with PI then.

 

[QUENTIN]

This is literally true: the Right's reaction to yesterday's announcement -- we're too afraid to allow trials and due process in our country -- is the textbook definition of "surrendering to terrorists." It's the same fear they've been spewing for years. As always, the Right's tough-guy leaders wallow in a combination of pitiful fear and cynical manipulation of the fear of their followers. Indeed, it's hard to find any group of people on the globe who exude this sort of weakness and fear more than the American Right.

People in capitals all over the world have hosted trials of high-level terrorist suspects using their normal justice system. They didn't allow fear to drive them to build island-prisons or create special commissions to depart from their rules of justice. Spain held an open trial in Madrid for the individuals accused of that country's 2004 train bombings. The British put those accused of perpetrating the London subway bombings on trial right in their normal courthouse in London. Indonesia gave public trials using standard court procedures to the individuals who bombed a nightclub in Bali. India used a Mumbai courtroom to try the sole surviving terrorist who participated in the 2008 massacre of hundreds of residents. In Argentina, the Israelis captured Adolf Eichmann, one of the most notorious Nazi war criminals, and brought him to Jerusalem to stand trial for his crimes.

It's only America's Right that is too scared of the Terrorists -- or which exploits the fears of their followers -- to insist that no regular trials can be held and that "the safety and security of the American people" mean that we cannot even have them in our country to give them trials. As usual, it's the weakest and most frightened among us who rely on the most flamboyant, theatrical displays of "strength" and "courage" to hide what they really are. Then again, this is the same political movement whose "leaders" -- people like John Cornyn and Pat Roberts -- cowardly insisted that we must ignore the Constitution in order to stay alive: the exact antithesis of the core value on which the nation was founded. Given that, it's hardly surprising that they exude a level of fear of Terrorists that is unmatched virtually anywhere in the world. It is, however, noteworthy that the position they advocate -- it's too scary to have normal trials in our country of Terrorists -- is as pure a surrender to the Terrorists as it gets.

Capitulating so completely to terrorists as to forgo America's justice system, which Jefferson called "the only anchor yet imagined by man which can hold a government to the principles of its constitution" because you're so terrified of the X-Men powers of Islamic terrorists is shameful.

Calling for a coup and military dictatorship that would set the country back 300 years, that's something else entirely. Beyond treasonous, it's so far off the deep end I imagine you can see the other side. How's North Korea looking? Should that be our model?

 

[QUENTIN]

By the way, we've tried and convicted 195 terror suspects in civilian courts since 2001. Not a one of them got off, not a one of them escaped, not a one incited another attack.

http://www.constitutionproject.org/manage/file/350.pdf

 

[manifold]

What a great country we live in where this guy can say something like this and get away with it.

I wonder if he'd get away with it if the country was under Marshal Law?

 

[Emma]

That one word query is too much for polky...Tone it down a notch, eh?

Seriously? Polk doesn't seem to see the danger, and is one of those that HATES his country and wants to see it knocked down a few notches.

I don't see Polk hating his country at all. But since you are making such a serious accusation, you have proof, right?

Tommy just likes to shoot off his mouth.

Between drinks.

 

[Emma]

patriotism

You don't seem to know the differance.

I fought for it. you shit on it.

And you want to destroy it. Who's shitting on it now?

 

[AllieBaba]

Hahahhaaaa.....what the fuck are people smoking? Having a trial in NYC is concern to be attacked.....but invading and occupying two nations that never attacked us generates no threat? Fucking hillbillies and the internet are not a good combination.

Does anyone besides me find it alarming that there are so many people on this board who think that locale has anything to do with intelligence?

Yet these same people would have a fit if anyone said that black people from Africa are less intelligent than we are.