Turkey Bombs Iraq PKK Bases

[High_Gravity]

Turkey Hits Kurds in Iraq for Second Day

ISTANBUL—Turkish warplanes on Thursday bombed Kurdish rebel targets in northern Iraq for the second successive night, as Turkey's military chiefs vowed to continue operations until the guerilla group is "rendered ineffective."

Turkish F-16s struck military encampments of the outlawed Kurdistan Workers Party, or PKK, late Thursday inside Iraqi territory near the border with Iran, a PKK spokesman said.

Shortly before the strikes, Turkish security forces were attacked in the eastern province of Siirt, according to Turkey's state-run Anatolian news agency. No group immediately claimed responsibility for that attack.

In a statement earlier Thursday, Turkey's military chiefs said fighter jets had hit more than 200 suspected PKK targets across the mountainous region near the border with Turkey late Wednesday, as well as targets on Mt. Qandil along the Iraq-Iran border, where the leadership of the organization has had its base for more than a decade.

Turkish analysts said the apparent severity of Wednesday's strikes suggested they caused serious damage to rebel infrastructure in northern Iraq. The attacks are Turkey's first cross-border aerial incursions since summer 2010, when warplanes carried out retaliatory air strikes on suspected rebel hideouts.

In Iraq, Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's spokesman said the government "denounces any attack against Iraq's sovereignty," the Associated Press reported. "At the same time, it also denounces any terrorist attacks launched by such groups against the neighboring countries," he said.

Wednesday's strikes followed the killing of at least eight Turkish soldiers and one civilian in an attack by Kurdish guerrillas earlier that day, as renewed violence in the country's restive southeast appeared to intensify. The attack marked the worst on Turkish troops since 13 soldiers were killed in Diyabakir province in July, and came days after Ankara signaled that tougher measures against rebels would follow the Muslim holy month of Ramadan.

Later Thursday, Turkey's National Security Council said in a statement it will adopt a "more effective and decisive fight" against terrorism and warned that rebel operations would be "responded to in the harshest way."

It was unclear how the upswing in violence and the heated rhetoric would affect the so-called Democratic Opening announced by Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan in 2009, promising cultural and political rights for the Kurds.

Kurds have been expecting equal citizen rights in Turkey's new constitution, which the government says it has started to draft.

As a part of the peace process, state delegations had, until recently, held regular meetings with the PKK's imprisoned leader, Abdullah Ocalan, on the prison island of Imrali in western Turkey, where he has been serving a lifetime since 1999. Analysts said the resumed violence wouldn't necessarily signal the failure of these discussions.

Earlier this month, Mr. Ocalan accused both his own organization and the state of using him as "the subcontractor," and said he will "give up" making an effort.

More than 30 Turkish soldiers have died since attacks intensified last month. The clashes also have left about 10 rebels dead.

Turkey Hits Kurds in Iraq for Second Day - WSJ.com

 

[ekrem]

Kurds are muslims..... just a different version of muslim.

You have no clue what you're talking about.
Blabla.

 

[Ropey]

^^ There was a time when the Turks were nice to the Armenians as well.

Kurds are not treated like you say they are.

As Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan urges Arab leaders to heed popular demands for change, in Turkey’s southeast violence and political protests are spreading among Kurds.

Erdogan, who has promised an end to the three-decade war, has toughened his line in recent weeks. He accused Kurdish politicians of “dancing to their own tune” and announced plans to beef up special operation teams. A flare-up in the conflict could undermine Erdogan’s effort to position Turkey as a stable, democratic role model for Arab neighbors gripped by unrest.

“Turkey cannot itself be a model at the moment when the process of nation-building is far from complete,” said Fadi Hakura, an analyst at Chatham House research institute in London. “There’s growing ethnic antagonism in Turkey and that is the ultimate fear: that it’s feeding a growing polarization that can reach a point of no return.”

Process of Nation Building?

They were in that same process when they performed Genocides on the Armenians.

Erdogan Risks Kurdish Flare-Up Weakening Turkey Role Model for Arab Spring - Bloomberg

Turkish police break up May Day protests in Taksim Square against Prime Minister Erdogan | World news | guardian.co.uk

Turkey argues that giving Kurds more rights will encourage a movement to secede. It was not clear how the Revolutionary Organization was related to the P.K.K.

3 Die in Turkey in Shootout Between Police and Militant - NYTimes.com

 

[High_Gravity]

Kurds are muslims..... just a different version of muslim.

You have no clue what you're talking about.
Blabla.

From what I understand Kurds are mostly Sunni Muslim but they are their own ethnicity with their own language and culture separate from the Arabs, Persians and Turks.

Kurdish people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[ekrem]

From what I understand Kurds are mostly Sunni Muslim but they are their own ethnicity with their own language and culture separate from the Arabs, Persians and Turks.

Kurdish people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A question:
What has a murder involving a love-affair between a 17 year old Turk and a 15 year old Irish girl got to do with this thread?
Or posting pictures from Socialist May 1st demonstrations in Istanbul?

I can't take such things serious. Sorry.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Go Turkey.

Fuck up those terrorists!

I bet you cried when Saddam was hung.

 

[High_Gravity]

Turkish PM Erdogan says Turkey no longer has Kurdish issue 2.5.2011

If Turkey no longer has a Kurdish problem why are they bombing Kurds in Northern Iraq?

 

[Ropey]

Turkish PM Erdogan says Turkey no longer has Kurdish issue 2.5.2011

If Turkey no longer has a Kurdish problem why are they bombing Kurds in Northern Iraq?

Because Erdogan is nothing more than a lying sack of diatribe who plans Genocide along with Iran and Iraq while pretending that there's nothing here to see.

Move along folks....

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Erdogan, like other Turkish leaders, publicly rules out talks with the PKK. Instead, he has proposed to strengthen Turkey’s special-operations forces -- a hardening stance that recalls policies of the mid-1990s, when the conflict was at its peak, Chatham House’s Hakura said.

Unofficially, Turkey has maintained a dialogue with Ocalan through various channels for almost 20 years, according to a report published in June by the Turkish Economic and Social Studies Foundation. Its author, Cengiz Candar, says Turkey needs to recognize the importance of the PKK and Ocalan’s “cult personality” among Kurds if it wants to end the conflict.

Turkish PM risks Kurdish flare-up weakening Turkey role model for Arab spring



To contact the reporter on this story: Emre Peker in Ankara at [email protected].







Turkish PM Erdogan says Turkey no longer has Kurdish issue

^^ Rebut From the Kurds own words.



Love affair? The Turk killed the two women who were taking care of the girl. He killed them both so that he could have the girl. They were just women.

I saw that connected to your continued diatribe against women and posted it. The picture from the socialist demonstrations show how Turks deal with those who are in opposition.

Go Turkey.

Fuck up those terrorists!

I bet you cried when Saddam was hung.

He was always clear about who he stands for. Sallow considers that the Armenians were terrorists as well and they simply got what they deserved.

For not being strong enough to protect themselves....

pitty his handlers allows him access to even a spork.

 

[High_Gravity]

Turkish PM Erdogan says Turkey no longer has Kurdish issue 2.5.2011

If Turkey no longer has a Kurdish problem why are they bombing Kurds in Northern Iraq?

Because Erdogan is nothing more than a lying sack of diatribe who plans Genocide along with Iran and Iraq while pretending that there's nothing here to see.

Move along folks....

The problem is if the Arabs, Persians and Turks get together and wipe out the Kurds, who will stop them?

 

[Ropey]

Turkish PM Erdogan says Turkey no longer has Kurdish issue 2.5.2011

If Turkey no longer has a Kurdish problem why are they bombing Kurds in Northern Iraq?

Because Erdogan is nothing more than a lying sack of diatribe who plans Genocide along with Iran and Iraq while pretending that there's nothing here to see.

Move along folks....

The problem is if the Arabs, Persians and Turks get together and wipe out the Kurds, who will stop them?

Therein lies the rub. And I do see the ramp up.

pitty his handlers allows him access to even a spork.

Can't give a spork to a foon can you?

 

[High_Gravity]

Assad is butchering his own people for months now and the world does nothing, you really think anyone will do anything if this happens to the Kurds?

 

[Ropey]

Assad is butchering his own people for months now and the world does nothing, you really think anyone will do anything if this happens to the Kurds?

Assad is fighting his majority of non-aligned tribes. He cares not one whit for them. They are not of his tribe

It is historical repetition with another transition of power grabbing that is occurring between the three groups, being Turkey (and alliances), Iran (and alliances) and Saudi Arabia (and alliances). Who will be the dominant one when the US steps back to control the periphery? If you look at this in terms of tribal affiliations then you will find where Syria truly lies. As in Yemen, it is a bit of an anomaly due to minority control whilst surrounded by many countries of the majority.

Iran, Saudi Arabia and Turkey are reading for position. Many alliances are being made and the Kurdish issue is one facet of this middle eastern upcoming upheaval. As far as these countries are concerned, the winner will be the one who gets the right to subjugate all others as that winner will be in complete submission to Allah and as such all others will be subordinate.

 

[CitizenPained]

Turkey and Lebanon would do themselves well to form better diplomatic alliances with Israel. The world is casting a weary eye on Syria, and Lebanon stands to lose (even more) in that battle. Turkey and Egypt will both be jockeying for power in the new Arab region (yes, I understand that Turkey is not Arab, but you know what I mean) to stand off against Iran. Egypt has clearly shown that they are not looking to honor a thirty plus year peace arrangement with Israel any longer and Turkey's only shot at the EU is to maintain its secularism. I know the current Turkish-Israeli situation is pretty rough, but I think this "Arab Spring" will create strange bedfellows for Israel.

 

[ekrem]

Turkey strikes PKK camps in Iraq for third night

In a statement on its website, Turkey's General Staff said fighter planes had hit 20 rebel targets in Kandil mountain, Sinath-Haftanin, Hakurk and Gara in northern Iraq, adding the planes had all returned to their bases.

"In coordination with the air operation, intense artillery fire was directed at 85 targets in Zap, Avasin-Basyan and Hakurk," it said in the statement.


Turkey strikes PKK camps in Iraq for third night

 

[Sallow]

Turkey strikes PKK camps in Iraq for third night

In a statement on its website, Turkey's General Staff said fighter planes had hit 20 rebel targets in Kandil mountain, Sinath-Haftanin, Hakurk and Gara in northern Iraq, adding the planes had all returned to their bases.

"In coordination with the air operation, intense artillery fire was directed at 85 targets in Zap, Avasin-Basyan and Hakurk," it said in the statement.


Turkey strikes PKK camps in Iraq for third night

That's how you deal with terrorists.

 

[ekrem]

That's how you deal with terrorists.

Video of the 3rd night

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C2Amz5Cbvw]3. Hava Harekat[/ame]

 

[Sallow]

That's how you deal with terrorists.

Video of the 3rd night

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C2Amz5Cbvw]3. Hava Harekat[/ame]

Good hunting boys.

 

[ekrem]

Finance Minister Mehmet Şimşek has said if Kurds were not first class citizens in Turkey, the country's finances would not be in his hands.
“If Kurds were not first class citizens, why would they delegate a Kurdish person to take care of the Finance Ministry?
Is there a ban on Kurdish? No.
Are Kurds badly treated? No."

Finance Minister Şimşek says Kurds are first class citizens in Turkey


Finance Minister Mehmet Simsek (Kurd), participated in the fast-breaking in his home-town of Batman with around 200 soldiers who are involved in the operations against the PKK.

Mehmet Şimşek PKK'ya yönelik operasyona katılan Mehmetçiklerle iftar yaptı - Hrriyet Gndem

 

[ekrem]

but I think this "Arab Spring" will create strange bedfellows for Israel.

Like the Brotherhood in Egypt?
Bedfellows...