Turkey Bombs Iraq PKK Bases

[High_Gravity]

Turkey Bombs Iraq PKK Bases

ANKARA, Turkey — Turkish jets launched air raids on suspected Kurdish rebel bases in northern Iraq on Wednesday, Turkish and Kurdish media reported, hours after eight soldiers and a village guard were killed in an ambush by the autonomy-seeking guerrillas.

Some 15 warplanes took off from a Turkish base to strike at bases which the rebels belonging to the Kurdistan Workers' Party, or PKK, use as a springboard to attack targets inside Turkey, according to a report on the NTV news channel. CNN-Turk television said Turkish F-16s were involved in the raids.

The Firat news agency, which is close to the rebels, said the Turkish jets were also targeting Qandil, a mountain on the Iraqi-Iranian border, where the rebels' leaders are believed to be hiding.

The Turkish reports were based on unidentified sources and there was no immediate official confirmation of the strikes.

If confirmed, the raids would be Turkey's first cross border offensive since last summer, when Turkish warplanes carried out a series of retaliatory air raids on suspected rebel hideouts across the border.

Turkish officials warned of a major offensive against the rebels following the ambush on a military convoy near the border with Iraq, that killed eight soldiers and a village guard working with them. Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said armored personnel carriers in the convoy came under rocket fire after being attacked with roadside bombs.

Defense Minister Ismet Yilmaz vowed tough response immediately after the attack, as the military launched an air and ground offensive in the largely Kurdish Hakkari province where the attack happened, Turkey's state television reported.

"The retaliation they will find will be manifold stronger," Yilmaz said.

More than 30 Turkish soldiers have died in intensified rebel attacks since July, including one that killed 13 service members in July, leading to a major military offensive in southeastern Turkey.

Earlier this week, Erdogan said Turkey is at the end of its tether and hinted toward a strong offensive after the end of the holy month of Ramadan.

But Wednesday's attack appears to have forced Turkey to bring plans forward.

Turkey Bombs Iraq PKK Bases: Reports

 

[ekrem]

Turkish warplanes have hit rebel Kurdish bases in northern Iraq for the second night, the separatists and Turkish media say.
BBC News - Turkish jets hit Kurdish rebels again in northern Iraq

 

[Sallow]

Go Turkey.

Fuck up those terrorists!

 

[Intense]

Turkish Planes Again Bomb Kurdish Rebels in Iraq
Thursday, August 18th, 2011 at 10:06 pm UTC
Posted 53 seconds ago

Turkish warplanes have attacked separatist Kurdistan Workers' Party positions in northern Iraq for the second straight night.

The latest strikes, carried out late Thursday, again targeted areas in Iraq's Kandil region near the Iranian border. PKK forces use the mountains of northern Iraq as a sanctuary to launch attacks in southeastern Turkey.

Ankara launched the air raids after PKK rebels ambushed a military convoy in Turkey, killing at least eight Turkish soldiers near the border with Iraq.

Also Thursday, Turkey's National Security Council met to discuss the situation, saying it would adopt a “more effective and decisive stance” in the fight against terrorism. It did not elaborate on what those measures would be.

Turkey, the United States, and the European Union consider the PKK a terrorist group.

A rebel spokesperson told VOA that Turkey's offensive the previous night failed to inflict any casualties on PKK forces. He said the strikes destroyed only one home and damaged a power distribution unit.

The PKK's response follows confirmation from the Turkish military that it launched artillery strikes and sent its warplanes across the border with Iraq late Wednesday as part of an attack on 60 PKK targets. The military said it would continue such operations until the PKK is “rendered ineffective” but that it was showing “necessary sensitivity” to avoid harming civilians.

The raids on the Kandil and Zap regions, among others, mark Turkey's first cross-border offensive in a year. Iraqi government officials Thursday objected to the raid as a violation of Iraq's sovereignty.

The renewed violence comes days after Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said Ankara's “patience is running out” with the rebels, who have waged a campaign for autonomy in the country's largely Kurdish southeast since 1984. The conflict has killed more than 40,000 people.

Turkish Planes Again Bomb Kurdish Rebels in Iraq « VOA Breaking News

 

[ekrem]

Go Turkey.

Fuck up those terrorists!

It's a good journalist.
He says, USA has delivered thermobaric bombs it used in Afghanistan
Harekatinn ayrintilari - Yigit Bulut aktardi - HABERTÜRK

Rest of bombardment is with Mark-82/-84 bombs.

After yesterday's Air-bombardment the Army also said, that the Artillery fired on 168 locations. But it didn't say what type of Artillery was used.
Turkish General Staff Official Web Site - Main Page

 

[Intense]

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FUTURE WEPONS air fuel bomb THERMOBARIQUE

 

[zzzz]

Must be this one, it destroys targets buried in bunkers or caves and that is where the Kurd leaders are located.

The BLU-118/B is a penetrating warhead filled with an advanced thermobaric explosive that, when detonated, generates higher sustained blast pressures in confined spaces such as tunnels and underground facilities. The BLU-118/B uses the same penetrator body as the standard BLU-109 weapon. The significant difference is the replacement of the high explosive fill with a new thermobaric explosive that provides increased lethality in confined spaces.

BLU-118/B Thermobaric Weapon Demonstration / Hard Target Defeat Program

 

[ekrem]

Must be this one, it destroys targets buried in bunkers or caves and that is where the Kurd leaders are located.

The BLU-118/B is a penetrating warhead filled with an advanced thermobaric explosive that, when detonated, generates higher sustained blast pressures in confined spaces such as tunnels and underground facilities. The BLU-118/B uses the same penetrator body as the standard BLU-109 weapon. The significant difference is the replacement of the high explosive fill with a new thermobaric explosive that provides increased lethality in confined spaces.

BLU-118/B Thermobaric Weapon Demonstration / Hard Target Defeat Program

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Yes, terrain is very differently than the desert/flat-lands of Iraq you see on American TV.
The terrain is more like Pakistan-Afghanistan border.

Their main camp is a mountain-range of about 80 KM which stretches both into Iraq and Iran

The Iraqi-Turkish border where they have smaller camps looks like this. That's also the reason why we have so much problems with their infiltration. They come in 2-3 people groups and plant mines:

Our only border-gate with Iraq is Habur.
Everything west of it is practically PKK operation area.

 

[ekrem]

A better map of the area

 

[ekrem]

Giving freely Interviews with "Operation Iraqi Freedom"

 

[ekrem]

Charm offensive with Washington-Post
If US Soldiers couldn't reach that area at least US journalists did

A Kurdish Society of Soldiers - washingtonpost.com

 

[GHook93]

Go Turkey.

Fuck up those terrorists!

LOL you support Al Qaeda and the Taliban, you support Hamas, but the Kurds who have a legitimate crip and Turks who are in the wrong you support. Man you really are a fool!

 

[ekrem]

Go Turkey.

Fuck up those terrorists!

LOL you support Al Qaeda and the Taliban, you support Hamas, but the Kurds who have a legitimate crip and Turks who are in the wrong you support. Man you really are a fool!

So you think these guys represent Kurds in Turkey?
How much schools, roads and hospitals did they built for Kurds in Turkey?

Southeast-Turkey is getting additional 40 Billion $ in infrastructure investment between 2008-2012 from the Central government budget.
Fighting regional disparities after PKK-terror hindered region's natural economical development.

The government will invest 14.55 billion YTL ($11.6 billion) from its budget between 2008 and 2012, improving the region’s infrastructure and irrigation systems, and boosting employment. Another 12.2 billion YTL will be spent from off-budget sources. The largest allocation, up to 20 billion dollars, will be spent on the infrastructural works. The government will also spend 1 billion dollars for economic development and 4.08 billion dollars for social development. The additional financing required for economic development is .9 billion dollars, with 2.16 billion allocated to social development, and 12.3 billion for development of infrastructure.

http://www.setadc.org/pdfs/SETA_Policy_Brief_No_18_Taha_Ozhan.pdf


Turkish general election, 2011 - google.com.tr

 

[CitizenPained]

I love how Turks blame everything on Israel and decry Israel's policies with Palestinians, but they (and Europe and the US) don't mind Turkey's crushing of Cyprus or the treatment of Kurds in Iraq. Apparently people are only qualified for self-determination when it's politically expedient.

 

[Synthaholic]

Since these three are sitting in front of a flag of a pig, they must be pigs.

I hope that every day, a Turkish prison guard on İmralı makes his life miserable in some way.

 

[ekrem]

I love how Turks blame everything on Israel and decry Israel's policies with Palestinians, but they (and Europe and the US) don't mind Turkey's crushing of Cyprus or the treatment of Kurds in Iraq. Apparently people are only qualified for self-determination when it's politically expedient.

The regions in Iraq which we bomb are regions with no Civilian population.
It's mountainous no man's land. If it would be someone's land there would be order and the region would not be controlled by a terrorist non-state entity.

As long as we don't bomb civilian centers everything's fine.
You can let me know, once we drop bombs on Erbil or Sulaymaniyah. Obviously that's not the case.

 

[CitizenPained]

PEE ESS: This is also Turkey's way of sending another message to Syria, which has historically been linked to the PKK.

It isn't that I support the bombing of citizen areas or anything or I'm a pinko sympathizer. It's just that Turkey has a horrible history in its short life of unleashing the most inhumane acts against ethnic minorities. Hell, Turkey has created more refugees than the Israeli-Arab wars have, but in the Arab world, Turkey is considered 'moderate'. Turkey's infractions against the Kurds is a huge point of contention in regards to its applications to be part of the EU Commission.

 

[CitizenPained]

I love how Turks blame everything on Israel and decry Israel's policies with Palestinians, but they (and Europe and the US) don't mind Turkey's crushing of Cyprus or the treatment of Kurds in Iraq. Apparently people are only qualified for self-determination when it's politically expedient.

The regions in Iraq which we bomb are regions with no Civilian population.
It's mountainous no man's land. If it would be someone's land there would be order and the region would not be controlled by a terrorist non-state entity.

As long as we don't bomb civilian centers everything's fine.
You can let me know, once we drop bombs on Erbil or Sulaymaniyah. Obviously that's not the case.

I'm sorry; are you trying to make sense?

 

[Synthaholic]

If you are a Kurd in power, either in N. Iraq or small sections of far-eastern Türkiye, then you have ties to the PKK, or have somehow met their approval.

Türkiye has every right to protect itself from terrorists at their doorstep and in their foyer.

 

[CitizenPained]

So you think that Turkey's genocidal acts against the Armenians or Kurds or its policies with Cyprus is largely of the Western imagination or it's just OK because it's politically expedient for your party?



The main reasons why we never put support behind Kurdish rebels in any country (with the exception of Iraq recently, but of another kind) was because one) oil and two) their left-leaning Marxist ways (oh egads nooo!! ! !! Marxism ! ! )