Trump's solution: Arm Teachers = More Guns on campus

[airplanemechanic]

Thank God not many of us. But when you find yourself in one, your chances of survival are a lot more if bullets are flying in BOTH directions.

 

[BS Filter]

And the far left drone religious narratives come out in force.

That did not take long, so much for "discussion" as the far left drone claimed they wanted.

Again this is another bash thread not meant for discussion, just pushing the far left debunked religious agenda.

Then again they became an epidemic under their god, Obama.

The far left did nothing for 8 years under Obama and will not do anything now, except just shout religious dogma.

His plan to reduce gun violence included a focus on mental health treatment, limiting magazine sizes, strengthening background checks and restarting federal gun research that had been frozen for years. Obama issued further actions on medical histories in background checks in 2014.

Yet, Obungo never thought of giving the right to self defense to the students and teachers. Typical leftist. Lots of talk and stuff that is meaningless.

So you are saying that the students should have guns..moron there was a guard with a gun on the school property where the shooter was killing the children . He wimped out.

You're an idiot. Any student or teacher that's fully trained and qualified should be armed. Dumb ass.

By "qualified" do you mean able to make a life or death decision on a moments notice, and shifting from lecturing to engaging a killer? Able to kill a student she/he has been hired to teach/mentor when an attack begins?

Have you considered the sounds of gunshots, screams and cry's for help? Along with the cacophony of sounds the smell and all around chaos would confuse a seasoned infantryman. And what if the shooter were not a child, and the teacher recognized the shooter as a fellow instructor? Shoot or not, was he engaging the killer, or the killer him/her self.

Oh, you poor nervous Nellie. Quick, hop into bed before I turn out the lights. Lol.

 

[Eaglewings]

His plan to reduce gun violence included a focus on mental health treatment, limiting magazine sizes, strengthening background checks and restarting federal gun research that had been frozen for years. Obama issued further actions on medical histories in background checks in 2014.

Yet, Obungo never thought of giving the right to self defense to the students and teachers. Typical leftist. Lots of talk and stuff that is meaningless.

So you are saying that the students should have guns..moron there was a guard with a gun on the school property where the shooter was killing the children . He wimped out.

You're an idiot. Any student or teacher that's fully trained and qualified should be armed. Dumb ass.

By "qualified" do you mean able to make a life or death decision on a moments notice, and shifting from lecturing to engaging a killer? Able to kill a student she/he has been hired to teach/mentor when an attack begins?

Have you considered the sounds of gunshots, screams and cry's for help? Along with the cacophony of sounds the smell and all around chaos would confuse a seasoned infantryman. And what if the shooter were not a child, and the teacher recognized the shooter as a fellow instructor? Shoot or not, was he engaging the killer, or the killer him/her self.

Oh, you poor nervous Nellie. Quick, hop into bed before I turn out the lights. Lol.

And the teacher would be seen with a gun by law enforcement.. if someone with a uniform they would be recognized..

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

someone with a uniform they would be recognized

Said the crazy kid walking into a school to shoot it up

 

[Wry Catcher]

His plan to reduce gun violence included a focus on mental health treatment, limiting magazine sizes, strengthening background checks and restarting federal gun research that had been frozen for years. Obama issued further actions on medical histories in background checks in 2014.

Yet, Obungo never thought of giving the right to self defense to the students and teachers. Typical leftist. Lots of talk and stuff that is meaningless.

So you are saying that the students should have guns..moron there was a guard with a gun on the school property where the shooter was killing the children . He wimped out.

You're an idiot. Any student or teacher that's fully trained and qualified should be armed. Dumb ass.

By "qualified" do you mean able to make a life or death decision on a moments notice, and shifting from lecturing to engaging a killer? Able to kill a student she/he has been hired to teach/mentor when an attack begins?

Have you considered the sounds of gunshots, screams and cry's for help? Along with the cacophony of sounds the smell and all around chaos would confuse a seasoned infantryman. And what if the shooter were not a child, and the teacher recognized the shooter as a fellow instructor? Shoot or not, was he engaging the killer, or the killer him/her self.

Oh, you poor nervous Nellie. Quick, hop into bed before I turn out the lights. Lol.

You're not very intelligent, are you? Making policy changes requires sagacious thinking, considering the cost-benefits and the cost-deficits, as well as the desired consequences and potential unexpected consequences / events which most changes present.

 

[BS Filter]

Yet, Obungo never thought of giving the right to self defense to the students and teachers. Typical leftist. Lots of talk and stuff that is meaningless.

So you are saying that the students should have guns..moron there was a guard with a gun on the school property where the shooter was killing the children . He wimped out.

You're an idiot. Any student or teacher that's fully trained and qualified should be armed. Dumb ass.

By "qualified" do you mean able to make a life or death decision on a moments notice, and shifting from lecturing to engaging a killer? Able to kill a student she/he has been hired to teach/mentor when an attack begins?

Have you considered the sounds of gunshots, screams and cry's for help? Along with the cacophony of sounds the smell and all around chaos would confuse a seasoned infantryman. And what if the shooter were not a child, and the teacher recognized the shooter as a fellow instructor? Shoot or not, was he engaging the killer, or the killer him/her self.

Oh, you poor nervous Nellie. Quick, hop into bed before I turn out the lights. Lol.

You're not very intelligent, are you? Making policy changes requires sagacious thinking, considering the cost-benefits and the cost-deficits, as well as the desired consequences and potential unexpected consequences / events which most changes present.

Oh, yes. None of us are very intelligent that expect citizens to use their God given right to self defense. Arrogant snip. You're a nervous Nellie, and all you have is negative pouring on any solutions. You don't have any, and you're gonna poo poo anything and anyone that does.

 

[BS Filter]

Food for thought: FRIENDLY FIRE

Trained and combat seasoned military veterans can make mistakes.

Veterans can make mistakes? So we should just let gunmen kill as many kids as they can without any resistance?

My God you people are sick.

This one is classic sick. This one is prepared to sacrifice our children as long as we keep guns away from qualified citizens and the right to self defense. Truly sick.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Listen you brainwashed baboon.. there was a ban on the type of gun that was used in this last shooting and expired in 2002.
But the NRA made sure that wouldn't be a ban anymore

this is when the massive shooting in schools started happening as an epidemic..

Our kids deserve an education , more than the stupid NRA corrupt trying to make more money on mass shooting machines.

Grow up Kosh

And the far left drone religious narratives come out in force.

That did not take long, so much for "discussion" as the far left drone claimed they wanted.

Again this is another bash thread not meant for discussion, just pushing the far left debunked religious agenda.

Then again they became an epidemic under their god, Obama.

The far left did nothing for 8 years under Obama and will not do anything now, except just shout religious dogma.

His plan to reduce gun violence included a focus on mental health treatment, limiting magazine sizes, strengthening background checks and restarting federal gun research that had been frozen for years. Obama issued further actions on medical histories in background checks in 2014.

Yet, Obungo never thought of giving the right to self defense to the students and teachers. Typical leftist. Lots of talk and stuff that is meaningless.

So you are saying that the students should have guns..moron there was a guard with a gun on the school property where the shooter was killing the children . He wimped out.

You're an idiot. Any student or teacher that's fully trained and qualified should be armed. Dumb ass.

What constitutes as ‘qualified.’

How many teachers would meet the ‘qualified’ criteria.

The fact is that there would be far too few ‘qualified’ teachers in a given school district or system to adequately staff schools; indeed, there are likely no such ‘qualified’ teachers at all in many school districts or systems.

The notion of ‘armed teachers’ is idiocy on many levels.

 

[BS Filter]

And the far left drone religious narratives come out in force.

That did not take long, so much for "discussion" as the far left drone claimed they wanted.

Again this is another bash thread not meant for discussion, just pushing the far left debunked religious agenda.

Then again they became an epidemic under their god, Obama.

The far left did nothing for 8 years under Obama and will not do anything now, except just shout religious dogma.

His plan to reduce gun violence included a focus on mental health treatment, limiting magazine sizes, strengthening background checks and restarting federal gun research that had been frozen for years. Obama issued further actions on medical histories in background checks in 2014.

Yet, Obungo never thought of giving the right to self defense to the students and teachers. Typical leftist. Lots of talk and stuff that is meaningless.

So you are saying that the students should have guns..moron there was a guard with a gun on the school property where the shooter was killing the children . He wimped out.

You're an idiot. Any student or teacher that's fully trained and qualified should be armed. Dumb ass.

What constitutes as ‘qualified.’

How many teachers would meet the ‘qualified’ criteria.

The fact is that there would be far too few ‘qualified’ teachers in a given school district or system to adequately staff schools; indeed, there are likely no such ‘qualified’ teachers at all in many school districts or systems.

The notion of ‘armed teachers’ is idiocy on many levels.

How many teachers are ex military or already have the experience and knowledge of how to use firearms? It is NOT a fact that there would be far to few "qualified" teachers in a given school district to adequately staff schools. That's just your highly emotional uninformed ignorant opinion.

 

[jon_berzerk]

Trump's solution: Arm Teachers = More Guns on campus

good

 

[Wry Catcher]

His plan to reduce gun violence included a focus on mental health treatment, limiting magazine sizes, strengthening background checks and restarting federal gun research that had been frozen for years. Obama issued further actions on medical histories in background checks in 2014.

Yet, Obungo never thought of giving the right to self defense to the students and teachers. Typical leftist. Lots of talk and stuff that is meaningless.

So you are saying that the students should have guns..moron there was a guard with a gun on the school property where the shooter was killing the children . He wimped out.

You're an idiot. Any student or teacher that's fully trained and qualified should be armed. Dumb ass.

What constitutes as ‘qualified.’

How many teachers would meet the ‘qualified’ criteria.

The fact is that there would be far too few ‘qualified’ teachers in a given school district or system to adequately staff schools; indeed, there are likely no such ‘qualified’ teachers at all in many school districts or systems.

The notion of ‘armed teachers’ is idiocy on many levels.

How many teachers are ex military or already have the experience and knowledge of how to use firearms? It is NOT a fact that there would be far to few "qualified" teachers in a given school district to adequately staff schools. That's just your highly emotional uninformed ignorant opinion.

Need I remind you that the facts you claim have been manufactured by those who profit from the sale of guns, ammo and accessories, i.e. large capacity magazines. In the future, try to post something you've researched and not simply echoed others with a conflict of interest (money!) and a callous disregard for the innocent victims of gun violence.

 

[Wry Catcher]

So you are saying that the students should have guns..moron there was a guard with a gun on the school property where the shooter was killing the children . He wimped out.

You're an idiot. Any student or teacher that's fully trained and qualified should be armed. Dumb ass.

By "qualified" do you mean able to make a life or death decision on a moments notice, and shifting from lecturing to engaging a killer? Able to kill a student she/he has been hired to teach/mentor when an attack begins?

Have you considered the sounds of gunshots, screams and cry's for help? Along with the cacophony of sounds the smell and all around chaos would confuse a seasoned infantryman. And what if the shooter were not a child, and the teacher recognized the shooter as a fellow instructor? Shoot or not, was he engaging the killer, or the killer him/her self.

Oh, you poor nervous Nellie. Quick, hop into bed before I turn out the lights. Lol.

You're not very intelligent, are you? Making policy changes requires sagacious thinking, considering the cost-benefits and the cost-deficits, as well as the desired consequences and potential unexpected consequences / events which most changes present.

Oh, yes. None of us are very intelligent that expect citizens to use their God given right to self defense. Arrogant snip. You're a nervous Nellie, and all you have is negative pouring on any solutions. You don't have any, and you're gonna poo poo anything and anyone that does.

I was being kind, in fact your posts strongly suggest you are a dimwit. Which, BTW, is half a wit less then a halfwit, known also as a biddable fool.

 

[OldLady]

When a hijacker on a plane jumps up and hollers "I've got a bomb," the air marshall doesn't radio air traffic control and hit the hijacker with harsh language. It's a tap between the eyes with a special bullet that won't quite pierce the walls of the plane.

No trained LEO would aim for the top of the head. You aim for center mass. You obviously never had weapons training before.

Heart and head. Flak jackets protect the heart. I watch tv

And besides that, I was supporting your argument. So keep it up. Shoot yourself in the foot.

No, not heart and head. The fact that you said "you watch TV" and that makes you think you know what the fuck you're talking about says a lot. You shoot for one place, CENTER MASS. That is where anyone is taught to aim. Never the head. It's too mobile and almost impossible to hit. It's not steady. Aiming for the heart means aiming to the right of center mass, increasing the chance of a miss.

I know you were supporting my view, but I was correcting you saying they would "tap between the eyes." It SOUNDS all Rambo, but it's highly unlikely. The guy won't be standing there with his head in plain view keeping steady for you to hit that spot.

Like I said, you've never taken firearms training, I can tell.

You believe in arming teachers and turning our schools in to armed camps. So whatever "expertise" you've got is highly suspect in my book. I agreed you had a point, but you have taken it way past the point of reasonable. And the news we now know, that four deputies arrived during the shooting and took up defensive positions outside the school WITHOUT going in to stop the shooting show me how much this "Good guy with a gun" concept is worth.
Nada.

 

[BS Filter]

Yet, Obungo never thought of giving the right to self defense to the students and teachers. Typical leftist. Lots of talk and stuff that is meaningless.

So you are saying that the students should have guns..moron there was a guard with a gun on the school property where the shooter was killing the children . He wimped out.

You're an idiot. Any student or teacher that's fully trained and qualified should be armed. Dumb ass.

What constitutes as ‘qualified.’

How many teachers would meet the ‘qualified’ criteria.

The fact is that there would be far too few ‘qualified’ teachers in a given school district or system to adequately staff schools; indeed, there are likely no such ‘qualified’ teachers at all in many school districts or systems.

The notion of ‘armed teachers’ is idiocy on many levels.

How many teachers are ex military or already have the experience and knowledge of how to use firearms? It is NOT a fact that there would be far to few "qualified" teachers in a given school district to adequately staff schools. That's just your highly emotional uninformed ignorant opinion.

Need I remind you that the facts you claim have been manufactured by those who profit from the sale of guns, ammo and accessories, i.e. large capacity magazines. In the future, try to post something you've researched and not simply echoed others with a conflict of interest (money!) and a callous disregard for the innocent victims of gun violence.

Bullcorn. You don't care about victims of gun violence. If you did, you'd support self defense. Go sell your crap to some naïve college kids.

 

[OldLady]

His plan to reduce gun violence included a focus on mental health treatment, limiting magazine sizes, strengthening background checks and restarting federal gun research that had been frozen for years. Obama issued further actions on medical histories in background checks in 2014.

Yet, Obungo never thought of giving the right to self defense to the students and teachers. Typical leftist. Lots of talk and stuff that is meaningless.

So you are saying that the students should have guns..moron there was a guard with a gun on the school property where the shooter was killing the children . He wimped out.

You're an idiot. Any student or teacher that's fully trained and qualified should be armed. Dumb ass.

What constitutes as ‘qualified.’

How many teachers would meet the ‘qualified’ criteria.

The fact is that there would be far too few ‘qualified’ teachers in a given school district or system to adequately staff schools; indeed, there are likely no such ‘qualified’ teachers at all in many school districts or systems.

The notion of ‘armed teachers’ is idiocy on many levels.

How many teachers are ex military or already have the experience and knowledge of how to use firearms? It is NOT a fact that there would be far to few "qualified" teachers in a given school district to adequately staff schools. That's just your highly emotional uninformed ignorant opinion.

Okay, Mr. Information. How many teachers today, right this minute, ARE ex military or have the experience and knowledge to use firearms? You should know, since it would be highly emotional, uninformed and ignorant to say there aren't enough to adequately staff schools.

 

[BS Filter]

Yet, Obungo never thought of giving the right to self defense to the students and teachers. Typical leftist. Lots of talk and stuff that is meaningless.

So you are saying that the students should have guns..moron there was a guard with a gun on the school property where the shooter was killing the children . He wimped out.

You're an idiot. Any student or teacher that's fully trained and qualified should be armed. Dumb ass.

What constitutes as ‘qualified.’

How many teachers would meet the ‘qualified’ criteria.

The fact is that there would be far too few ‘qualified’ teachers in a given school district or system to adequately staff schools; indeed, there are likely no such ‘qualified’ teachers at all in many school districts or systems.

The notion of ‘armed teachers’ is idiocy on many levels.

How many teachers are ex military or already have the experience and knowledge of how to use firearms? It is NOT a fact that there would be far to few "qualified" teachers in a given school district to adequately staff schools. That's just your highly emotional uninformed ignorant opinion.

Okay, Mr. Information. How many teachers today, right this minute, ARE ex military or have the experience and knowledge to use firearms? You should know, since it would be highly emotional, uninformed and ignorant to say there aren't enough to adequately staff schools.

What an ignorant question. There are ex military everywhere in our schools. Are you really that uninformed and out of touch with reality? We've only been at war for the last 18 years. Duh!!

 

[BS Filter]

You're an idiot. Any student or teacher that's fully trained and qualified should be armed. Dumb ass.

By "qualified" do you mean able to make a life or death decision on a moments notice, and shifting from lecturing to engaging a killer? Able to kill a student she/he has been hired to teach/mentor when an attack begins?

Have you considered the sounds of gunshots, screams and cry's for help? Along with the cacophony of sounds the smell and all around chaos would confuse a seasoned infantryman. And what if the shooter were not a child, and the teacher recognized the shooter as a fellow instructor? Shoot or not, was he engaging the killer, or the killer him/her self.

Oh, you poor nervous Nellie. Quick, hop into bed before I turn out the lights. Lol.

You're not very intelligent, are you? Making policy changes requires sagacious thinking, considering the cost-benefits and the cost-deficits, as well as the desired consequences and potential unexpected consequences / events which most changes present.

Oh, yes. None of us are very intelligent that expect citizens to use their God given right to self defense. Arrogant snip. You're a nervous Nellie, and all you have is negative pouring on any solutions. You don't have any, and you're gonna poo poo anything and anyone that does.

I was being kind, in fact your posts strongly suggest you are a dimwit. Which, BTW, is half a wit less then a halfwit, known also as a biddable fool.

Oh, my, yes. Ha ha. You're way too smart for me. Go play with someone your own speed, pusillanimous pissant.

 

[OldLady]

So you are saying that the students should have guns..moron there was a guard with a gun on the school property where the shooter was killing the children . He wimped out.

You're an idiot. Any student or teacher that's fully trained and qualified should be armed. Dumb ass.

What constitutes as ‘qualified.’

How many teachers would meet the ‘qualified’ criteria.

The fact is that there would be far too few ‘qualified’ teachers in a given school district or system to adequately staff schools; indeed, there are likely no such ‘qualified’ teachers at all in many school districts or systems.

The notion of ‘armed teachers’ is idiocy on many levels.

How many teachers are ex military or already have the experience and knowledge of how to use firearms? It is NOT a fact that there would be far to few "qualified" teachers in a given school district to adequately staff schools. That's just your highly emotional uninformed ignorant opinion.

Okay, Mr. Information. How many teachers today, right this minute, ARE ex military or have the experience and knowledge to use firearms? You should know, since it would be highly emotional, uninformed and ignorant to say there aren't enough to adequately staff schools.

What an ignorant question. There are ex military everywhere in our schools. Are you really that uninformed and out of touch with reality? We've only been at war for the last 18 years. Duh!!

Answer the question or admit you haven't got a clue.

 

[Wry Catcher]

His plan to reduce gun violence included a focus on mental health treatment, limiting magazine sizes, strengthening background checks and restarting federal gun research that had been frozen for years. Obama issued further actions on medical histories in background checks in 2014.

Yet, Obungo never thought of giving the right to self defense to the students and teachers. Typical leftist. Lots of talk and stuff that is meaningless.

So you are saying that the students should have guns..moron there was a guard with a gun on the school property where the shooter was killing the children . He wimped out.

You're an idiot. Any student or teacher that's fully trained and qualified should be armed. Dumb ass.

What constitutes as ‘qualified.’

How many teachers would meet the ‘qualified’ criteria.

The fact is that there would be far too few ‘qualified’ teachers in a given school district or system to adequately staff schools; indeed, there are likely no such ‘qualified’ teachers at all in many school districts or systems.

The notion of ‘armed teachers’ is idiocy on many levels.

How many teachers are ex military or already have the experience and knowledge of how to use firearms? It is NOT a fact that there would be far to few "qualified" teachers in a given school district to adequately staff schools. That's just your highly emotional uninformed ignorant opinion.

Q. How many vets are teachers (you made a claim, give the reader a number. And, tell us how many were engaged in a small arms firefight, and observed a member of their squad killed or dying?)?

I served (1967 -1969) and never saw any live action. In fact I only fired the .45 in boot camp, and an old BAR off the fantail at an empty drum a couple of times.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Food for thought: FRIENDLY FIRE

Trained and combat seasoned military veterans can make mistakes.

Didn’t you see how many guns were there last week in response and how much safer everyone felt as a result?

LOL I assure you, no one felt safer, every officer and deputy had a rush of Adrenalin on arrival.