Trump should be willing to shut down the government to fund the border wall...

You pretending to not know that the GOP establishment is opposed to him on this?

Everybody opposes him on this. Seems like he would get the hint.


Doing the right thing is often unpopular, especially in a corrupt environment.

Being unpopular doesn't mean it's the right thing.


You are the one implying that it being unpopular means that it is the wrong thing.


I pointed out, correctly, that that is not true.
Unpopular?

Trump is hated

In some circles. But, opinions vary. For example, I didn't vote for him, but I don't hate him.
 
...this is a make or break issue for Trump. He needs to stick to his guns.

But if Trump shuts down the government, he won't get his paycheck.

....oh, wait.

SHUT IT DOWN!!
Trump never collected it.

He collects it every time we have to pay his resort millions so he can play golf there.

$82 million dollars, last count. That pales in comparison to the money Barack and Michelle Obama spent on vacations, though. Look it up.

The Obama's travel costs alone for the 8 years they were in office, were over $100 million. Then there were the millions Michelle Obama spent that weren't travel costs, and the hundreds of millions of taxpayer money. She gave away $100 million in one stop in Morocco, and subsequently another $350 million, so girls could "go to school."

Michelle Obama’s African Vacation Just Cost Us $100 Million
https://downtrend.com/71superb/michelle-obamas-african-vacation-just-cost-us-100-million/
 
...this is a make or break issue for Trump. He needs to stick to his guns.
Trump is shooting blanks
Stormy has drained his swamp.
/——/ Oh really?
Adult film star Stormy Daniels must pay President Trump $293,000 in legal fees, a judge ruled on Tuesday.

I see a certain person doing a job transition from "porn star" to "crack whore" in her immediate future.

You'll soon be able to buy her for a whole night for $20. :laughing0301:
 
...this is a make or break issue for Trump. He needs to stick to his guns.
Trump is shooting blanks
Stormy has drained his swamp.
/——/ Oh really?
Adult film star Stormy Daniels must pay President Trump $293,000 in legal fees, a judge ruled on Tuesday.
That was for a defamation case she brought against him regarding him accusing her of lying about being physically threatened prior to a 2011 tv interview.
Nothing to do with whether the affair occurred or not.
 
Immigrants give employers a large supply of labor. That drives down prices, ie wages.


And yes, we should be going after employers. I've heard some of that being done. I don't know how much is being done, because the lib media would not report it, if it was happening.
Wages are stagnant for those making well above immigrant wages. Our rich monopolies are holding down wages. Immigrants or not nothing will change.

I'm pretty sure Fox news and Breitbart would be happy to report it.


Wages have been stagnant across the board.


Are you pretending that immigrants are all picking fruit?
We've been a country of immigrants our entire existence. If that made for stagnant wages they would have always been stagnant. It's our rich monopolies holding down wages....
Legal immigrants. Why do you libs always group them togeather. Legal immigrants have helped our nation grow since its founding. With 63% of illegals on government assistance it’s clear they are not here to benefit America, they’re here for the freebes. Build the wall, deport EVERY ILLEGAL ON GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE. Make sure every legal immigrant will come here to benefit America.
Mexicans used to be legal immigrants until we changed immigration laws to make it more difficult for brown people to get in
Dude, we want immigrants who will help America, not immigrates who need Government hand outs. Nobody changed shit. These people from third lvl countries have no job skills.
 
...this is a make or break issue for Trump. He needs to stick to his guns.
Trump is shooting blanks
Stormy has drained his swamp.
/——/ Oh really?
Adult film star Stormy Daniels must pay President Trump $293,000 in legal fees, a judge ruled on Tuesday.
That was for a defamation case she brought against him regarding him accusing her of lying about being physically threatened prior to a 2011 tv interview.
Nothing to do with whether the affair occurred or not.
/——/ I guess that makes the $293k less painful for Stormy.
 
OK

Let’s open a bank account to put all that new revenue from Mexico
When we have enough we can build a wall
Tax eft transfers to Mexico.
Ok

Do that first, accumulate enough money and then build your wall

Don’t ask me as a taxpayer to pay for it and trust that the money will come later
Yet, you have no qualms as a taxpayer to pay the billions of dollars for the refugees and illegals.
I don't understand that mindset.
I believe those immigrants supply low cost labor that adds billions to our economy.

Why not just give them work visas and let them pay taxes
Oh for Christ sake... why do even spew such HORSE SHIT, when it's COMMON KNOWLEDGE that illegal aliens are a DRAIN our economy? Do you just LIKE to sound STUPID? Or you do just LIKE to LIE? Either way, you look like an ignorant DUMBASS...

The Cost of Illegal Immigration to US Taxpayers | FAIR
That report ignores the economic contributions of immigrants
 
Wages are stagnant for those making well above immigrant wages. Our rich monopolies are holding down wages. Immigrants or not nothing will change.

I'm pretty sure Fox news and Breitbart would be happy to report it.


Wages have been stagnant across the board.


Are you pretending that immigrants are all picking fruit?
We've been a country of immigrants our entire existence. If that made for stagnant wages they would have always been stagnant. It's our rich monopolies holding down wages....
Legal immigrants. Why do you libs always group them togeather. Legal immigrants have helped our nation grow since its founding. With 63% of illegals on government assistance it’s clear they are not here to benefit America, they’re here for the freebes. Build the wall, deport EVERY ILLEGAL ON GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE. Make sure every legal immigrant will come here to benefit America.
Mexicans used to be legal immigrants until we changed immigration laws to make it more difficult for brown people to get in
Dude, we want immigrants who will help America, not immigrates who need Government hand outs. Nobody changed shit. These people from third lvl countries have no job skills.
They have many skills as laborers
Our economy needs laborers
 
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The Ted Cruz shutdown cost the Government $26 billion

Five times more than Trump is asking for a wall
 
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some on the left believe believe we should be grateful for our doctrine of separation powers, more than we currently are.

This is the expressly delegated issue:

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;
 
...this is a make or break issue for Trump. He needs to stick to his guns.

But if Trump shuts down the government, he won't get his paycheck.

....oh, wait.

SHUT IT DOWN!!
Trump never collected it.

He collects it every time we have to pay his resort millions so he can play golf there.

$82 million dollars, last count. That pales in comparison to the money Barack and Michelle Obama spent on vacations, though. Look it up.

The Obama's travel costs alone for the 8 years they were in office, were over $100 million. Then there were the millions Michelle Obama spent that weren't travel costs, and the hundreds of millions of taxpayer money. She gave away $100 million in one stop in Morocco, and subsequently another $350 million, so girls could "go to school."

Michelle Obama’s African Vacation Just Cost Us $100 Million
$4,200,000,000.00 to take care of the Obamas their first couple of years.
 
...this is a make or break issue for Trump. He needs to stick to his guns.

But if Trump shuts down the government, he won't get his paycheck.

....oh, wait.

SHUT IT DOWN!!
Trump never collected it.

He collects it every time we have to pay his resort millions so he can play golf there.

$82 million dollars, last count. That pales in comparison to the money Barack and Michelle Obama spent on vacations, though. Look it up.

The Obama's travel costs alone for the 8 years they were in office, were over $100 million. Then there were the millions Michelle Obama spent that weren't travel costs, and the hundreds of millions of taxpayer money. She gave away $100 million in one stop in Morocco, and subsequently another $350 million, so girls could "go to school."

Michelle Obama’s African Vacation Just Cost Us $100 Million
$4,200,000,000.00 to take care of the Obamas their first couple of years.
link
 
But if Trump shuts down the government, he won't get his paycheck.

....oh, wait.

SHUT IT DOWN!!
Trump never collected it.

He collects it every time we have to pay his resort millions so he can play golf there.

$82 million dollars, last count. That pales in comparison to the money Barack and Michelle Obama spent on vacations, though. Look it up.

The Obama's travel costs alone for the 8 years they were in office, were over $100 million. Then there were the millions Michelle Obama spent that weren't travel costs, and the hundreds of millions of taxpayer money. She gave away $100 million in one stop in Morocco, and subsequently another $350 million, so girls could "go to school."

Michelle Obama’s African Vacation Just Cost Us $100 Million
$4,200,000,000.00 to take care of the Obamas their first couple of years.
link
Try Google, dumbass.
This was well known during his first term.
$585 million to take care of the entire British Royal Family.
$4.2 billion to take care of 4 people in the White House.
 
...this is a make or break issue for Trump. He needs to stick to his guns.

But if Trump shuts down the government, he won't get his paycheck.

....oh, wait.

SHUT IT DOWN!!

Not only that, but if he shuts down the government thinking he can just go play golf and charge the government for all the SS and others that are there as well.

But, if the government is shut down, they can't pay him for his golf fees. He ought to think about that.
 

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