Trump should be willing to shut down the government to fund the border wall...

[Slyhunter]

...this is a make or break issue for Trump. He needs to stick to his guns.

What was that?

That was a reality show. Trump still thinks he is the host of a reality T.V show and the setting was the Oval Office. What could be more embarrassing for Americans than to have the President of the United States get in a shouting match with the future Speaker of the House and the Senate Minority Leader on a daytime television drama.

Trump put himself in a position where he was outnumbered two to one and the two teed off on him, even questioning the validity of his statements ... all for the world to see. That alone tells you how dumb the President is.

Pence was in the room and, characteristically, he put on his best rendition of a sphinx. Throughout the whole miserable drama he didn't say a thing.

Schumer made Trump admit that he would be responsible for shutting down the government a few days before Christmas over his border wall. Trump had to admit as well, that his party does not have enough votes to approve the wall in the Senate. He said he had the votes in the House, but that, too, is in serious question because of House Republicans who oppose it. When asked by the USA TODAY Network whether they support the President’s initial $1.6 billion budget request to begin construction, only 69 of the 292 Republicans on Capitol Hill said "yes."

Apparently, Trump doesn't know this.

In other words, on daytime television, Trump admitted that he, and he alone, would shut down the government over his wall.

Honestly, how dumb can you be? Between the President and the vice-president, this was a classic example of how not to be the two leaders of a country.

And that country is ours.

You must have seen a different meeting than I did.
I saw two Democrats attacking the president and a president trying to get them to be responsible.
The Democrats came into the meeting with a chip on their shoulders and Trump was there to protect us from the Democrat's destructive actions.
The Democrats tried to get the cameras turned off and Trump said what's the difference, if we negotiate here or when the cameras are off.
Trump is trying to do everything out in the open for the American public to see, but the Democrats were trying to hide the discussion from us.
This is how Trump operates. He's not afraid of being transparent. He just wants to get the job done, whatever it takes.
Now you know why millions of Americans support him.
It's not because we're racists.
It's because Trump is the only person in Washington we feel we can trust.

It's called Transparency

 

[Toro]

...this is a make or break issue for Trump. He needs to stick to his guns.

So Trump’s elderly base would be willing to forego their SS checks?

 

[Dale Smith]

...this is a make or break issue for Trump. He needs to stick to his guns.

So Trump’s elderly base would be willing to forego their SS checks?

Never any talk about not having enough money for welfare programs.....but S.S? A system where an employee and their employer equally contribute to this "forced upon us" program? Well, gotta take a look at that because the excess was spent and put in the general fund by the owners of USA.INC, so now? It's just a Ponzi scheme....but leftards believe that those that never invested a dime are eligible (i.e illegals and their anchor babies) and those that had 15 percent of their FRNs taken from them by literally gun point should just "suck it up". The wall will pay for itself in a year. Mexico will end up paying for the wall by losing remittances and having to deal with their own poorly skilled and poorly educated citizens instead of pawning them off on us.

 

[Lesh]

Wait...what?

If Trump has a hissy fit and shuts down the government....Social Security checks don't go out?

 

[ColonelAngus]

Wait...what?

If Trump has a hissy fit and shuts down the government....Social Security checks don't go out?

It’ll be the same as it was for the Schumer shut down. What happened when Schumer shut down the government?

 

[mudwhistle]

...this is a make or break issue for Trump. He needs to stick to his guns.

What was that?

That was a reality show. Trump still thinks he is the host of a reality T.V show and the setting was the Oval Office. What could be more embarrassing for Americans than to have the President of the United States get in a shouting match with the future Speaker of the House and the Senate Minority Leader on a daytime television drama.

Trump put himself in a position where he was outnumbered two to one and the two teed off on him, even questioning the validity of his statements ... all for the world to see. That alone tells you how dumb the President is.

Pence was in the room and, characteristically, he put on his best rendition of a sphinx. Throughout the whole miserable drama he didn't say a thing.

Schumer made Trump admit that he would be responsible for shutting down the government a few days before Christmas over his border wall. Trump had to admit as well, that his party does not have enough votes to approve the wall in the Senate. He said he had the votes in the House, but that, too, is in serious question because of House Republicans who oppose it. When asked by the USA TODAY Network whether they support the President’s initial $1.6 billion budget request to begin construction, only 69 of the 292 Republicans on Capitol Hill said "yes."

Apparently, Trump doesn't know this.

In other words, on daytime television, Trump admitted that he, and he alone, would shut down the government over his wall.

Honestly, how dumb can you be? Between the President and the vice-president, this was a classic example of how not to be the two leaders of a country.

And that country is ours.

You must have seen a different meeting than I did.
I saw two Democrats attacking the president and a president trying to get them to be responsible.
The Democrats came into the meeting with a chip on their shoulders and Trump was there to protect us from the Democrat's destructive actions.
The Democrats tried to get the cameras turned off and Trump said what's the difference, if we negotiate here or when the cameras are off.
Trump is trying to do everything out in the open for the American public to see, but the Democrats were trying to hide the discussion from us.
This is how Trump operates. He's not afraid of being transparent. He just wants to get the job done, whatever it takes.
Now you know why millions of Americans support him.
It's not because we're racists.
It's because Trump is the only person in Washington we feel we can trust.

It's called Transparency

Gee, thanks for pointing that out. *rolls eyes*

 

[danielpalos]

We don't have a common defense issue on our southern border, it is a refugee issue. this is the federal power that is actually delegated to Congress: To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization.

 

[bodecea]

Wait...what?

If Trump has a hissy fit and shuts down the government....Social Security checks don't go out?

It’ll be the same as it was for the Schumer shut down. What happened when Schumer shut down the government?

He never did...the GOP did...remember Cruz reading "Green Eggs & Ham" to filibuster?

 

[danielpalos]

there can be no invasion with actual refugees on our border.

 

[rightwinger]

Government shutdown does not have the impact it did ten years ago

Nobody cares

Workers sit home and get paid
Essential functions are still performed
Republicans will even keep the parks open

 

[danielpalos]

We have a general welfare clause not a general warfare clause.

this is the federal power that is actually delegated to Congress: To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

...this is a make or break issue for Trump. He needs to stick to his guns.

What was that?

That was a reality show. Trump still thinks he is the host of a reality T.V show and the setting was the Oval Office. What could be more embarrassing for Americans than to have the President of the United States get in a shouting match with the future Speaker of the House and the Senate Minority Leader on a daytime television drama.

Trump put himself in a position where he was outnumbered two to one and the two teed off on him, even questioning the validity of his statements ... all for the world to see. That alone tells you how dumb the President is.

Pence was in the room and, characteristically, he put on his best rendition of a sphinx. Throughout the whole miserable drama he didn't say a thing.

Schumer made Trump admit that he would be responsible for shutting down the government a few days before Christmas over his border wall. Trump had to admit as well, that his party does not have enough votes to approve the wall in the Senate. He said he had the votes in the House, but that, too, is in serious question because of House Republicans who oppose it. When asked by the USA TODAY Network whether they support the President’s initial $1.6 billion budget request to begin construction, only 69 of the 292 Republicans on Capitol Hill said "yes."

Apparently, Trump doesn't know this.

In other words, on daytime television, Trump admitted that he, and he alone, would shut down the government over his wall.

Honestly, how dumb can you be? Between the President and the vice-president, this was a classic example of how not to be the two leaders of a country.

And that country is ours.

I heard the tape of the meeting. Trump seriously schooled Schumer and Pelosi. The funniest part was when Pelosi objected to the meeting being recorded by the press. Obviously she'd rather conduct her business in some smoke-filled room hidden from view of the American voters, and without all the transparency. Trump did a good job of tattooing the prospective government shutdown to Schumer's and Pelosi's foreheads. It's on them now, if it happens.

This is a fascinating insight from a deplorable. You people don't seem to know which way is up these days. The Orange Virus got his fat ass kicked yesterday on live TV. It's more likely Pelosi asked to continue in private to avoid Orange's further embarrassment. Pence rightfully did his best impression of a potted plant for the duration of the meeting. Schumer got Orange to lay his cards down by getting him to say he will 'proudly' shut down the government if he doesn't get the wall. So Orange will take full responsibility for a shut down, not Schumer or Pelosi. You are mistaken.

The best part is Orange's tantrum afterwards, him throwing a stack of briefing papers around the room in frustration. Sounds like a winner to me!

 

[Slyhunter]

...this is a make or break issue for Trump. He needs to stick to his guns.

What was that?

That was a reality show. Trump still thinks he is the host of a reality T.V show and the setting was the Oval Office. What could be more embarrassing for Americans than to have the President of the United States get in a shouting match with the future Speaker of the House and the Senate Minority Leader on a daytime television drama.

Trump put himself in a position where he was outnumbered two to one and the two teed off on him, even questioning the validity of his statements ... all for the world to see. That alone tells you how dumb the President is.

Pence was in the room and, characteristically, he put on his best rendition of a sphinx. Throughout the whole miserable drama he didn't say a thing.

Schumer made Trump admit that he would be responsible for shutting down the government a few days before Christmas over his border wall. Trump had to admit as well, that his party does not have enough votes to approve the wall in the Senate. He said he had the votes in the House, but that, too, is in serious question because of House Republicans who oppose it. When asked by the USA TODAY Network whether they support the President’s initial $1.6 billion budget request to begin construction, only 69 of the 292 Republicans on Capitol Hill said "yes."

Apparently, Trump doesn't know this.

In other words, on daytime television, Trump admitted that he, and he alone, would shut down the government over his wall.

Honestly, how dumb can you be? Between the President and the vice-president, this was a classic example of how not to be the two leaders of a country.

And that country is ours.

I heard the tape of the meeting. Trump seriously schooled Schumer and Pelosi. The funniest part was when Pelosi objected to the meeting being recorded by the press. Obviously she'd rather conduct her business in some smoke-filled room hidden from view of the American voters, and without all the transparency. Trump did a good job of tattooing the prospective government shutdown to Schumer's and Pelosi's foreheads. It's on them now, if it happens.

This is a fascinating insight from a deplorable. You people don't seem to know which way is up these days. The Orange Virus got his fat ass kicked yesterday on live TV. It's more likely Pelosi asked to continue in private to avoid Orange's further embarrassment. Pence rightfully did his best impression of a potted plant for the duration of the meeting. Schumer got Orange to lay his cards down by getting him to say he will 'proudly' shut down the government if he doesn't get the wall. So Orange will take full responsibility for a shut down, not Schumer or Pelosi. You are mistaken.

The best part is Orange's tantrum afterwards, him throwing a stack of briefing papers around the room in frustration. Sounds like a winner to me!

Border security is worth fighting for. If he wasn't willing to shut the government down over it he wouldn't be the man we voted for.

 

[danielpalos]

...this is a make or break issue for Trump. He needs to stick to his guns.

What was that?

That was a reality show. Trump still thinks he is the host of a reality T.V show and the setting was the Oval Office. What could be more embarrassing for Americans than to have the President of the United States get in a shouting match with the future Speaker of the House and the Senate Minority Leader on a daytime television drama.

Trump put himself in a position where he was outnumbered two to one and the two teed off on him, even questioning the validity of his statements ... all for the world to see. That alone tells you how dumb the President is.

Pence was in the room and, characteristically, he put on his best rendition of a sphinx. Throughout the whole miserable drama he didn't say a thing.

Schumer made Trump admit that he would be responsible for shutting down the government a few days before Christmas over his border wall. Trump had to admit as well, that his party does not have enough votes to approve the wall in the Senate. He said he had the votes in the House, but that, too, is in serious question because of House Republicans who oppose it. When asked by the USA TODAY Network whether they support the President’s initial $1.6 billion budget request to begin construction, only 69 of the 292 Republicans on Capitol Hill said "yes."

Apparently, Trump doesn't know this.

In other words, on daytime television, Trump admitted that he, and he alone, would shut down the government over his wall.

Honestly, how dumb can you be? Between the President and the vice-president, this was a classic example of how not to be the two leaders of a country.

And that country is ours.

I heard the tape of the meeting. Trump seriously schooled Schumer and Pelosi. The funniest part was when Pelosi objected to the meeting being recorded by the press. Obviously she'd rather conduct her business in some smoke-filled room hidden from view of the American voters, and without all the transparency. Trump did a good job of tattooing the prospective government shutdown to Schumer's and Pelosi's foreheads. It's on them now, if it happens.

This is a fascinating insight from a deplorable. You people don't seem to know which way is up these days. The Orange Virus got his fat ass kicked yesterday on live TV. It's more likely Pelosi asked to continue in private to avoid Orange's further embarrassment. Pence rightfully did his best impression of a potted plant for the duration of the meeting. Schumer got Orange to lay his cards down by getting him to say he will 'proudly' shut down the government if he doesn't get the wall. So Orange will take full responsibility for a shut down, not Schumer or Pelosi. You are mistaken.

The best part is Orange's tantrum afterwards, him throwing a stack of briefing papers around the room in frustration. Sounds like a winner to me!

Border security is worth fighting for. If he wasn't willing to shut the government down over it he wouldn't be the man we voted for.

it is a humanitarian issue not a common defense issue.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

...this is a make or break issue for Trump. He needs to stick to his guns.

What was that?

That was a reality show. Trump still thinks he is the host of a reality T.V show and the setting was the Oval Office. What could be more embarrassing for Americans than to have the President of the United States get in a shouting match with the future Speaker of the House and the Senate Minority Leader on a daytime television drama.

Trump put himself in a position where he was outnumbered two to one and the two teed off on him, even questioning the validity of his statements ... all for the world to see. That alone tells you how dumb the President is.

Pence was in the room and, characteristically, he put on his best rendition of a sphinx. Throughout the whole miserable drama he didn't say a thing.

Schumer made Trump admit that he would be responsible for shutting down the government a few days before Christmas over his border wall. Trump had to admit as well, that his party does not have enough votes to approve the wall in the Senate. He said he had the votes in the House, but that, too, is in serious question because of House Republicans who oppose it. When asked by the USA TODAY Network whether they support the President’s initial $1.6 billion budget request to begin construction, only 69 of the 292 Republicans on Capitol Hill said "yes."

Apparently, Trump doesn't know this.

In other words, on daytime television, Trump admitted that he, and he alone, would shut down the government over his wall.

Honestly, how dumb can you be? Between the President and the vice-president, this was a classic example of how not to be the two leaders of a country.

And that country is ours.

I heard the tape of the meeting. Trump seriously schooled Schumer and Pelosi. The funniest part was when Pelosi objected to the meeting being recorded by the press. Obviously she'd rather conduct her business in some smoke-filled room hidden from view of the American voters, and without all the transparency. Trump did a good job of tattooing the prospective government shutdown to Schumer's and Pelosi's foreheads. It's on them now, if it happens.

This is a fascinating insight from a deplorable. You people don't seem to know which way is up these days. The Orange Virus got his fat ass kicked yesterday on live TV. It's more likely Pelosi asked to continue in private to avoid Orange's further embarrassment. Pence rightfully did his best impression of a potted plant for the duration of the meeting. Schumer got Orange to lay his cards down by getting him to say he will 'proudly' shut down the government if he doesn't get the wall. So Orange will take full responsibility for a shut down, not Schumer or Pelosi. You are mistaken.

The best part is Orange's tantrum afterwards, him throwing a stack of briefing papers around the room in frustration. Sounds like a winner to me!

Border security is worth fighting for. If he wasn't willing to shut the government down over it he wouldn't be the man we voted for.

Border security is worth fighting for, but a wall is not a great solution, IMHO.

 

[rightwinger]

Trump will waste $20 billion on a shutdown over $5 billion of funding

 

[danielpalos]

why are we losing money on border policy when we could be generating revenue to pay for the infrastructure upgrade?

 

[ABikerSailor]

...this is a make or break issue for Trump. He needs to stick to his guns.

What was that?

That was a reality show. Trump still thinks he is the host of a reality T.V show and the setting was the Oval Office. What could be more embarrassing for Americans than to have the President of the United States get in a shouting match with the future Speaker of the House and the Senate Minority Leader on a daytime television drama.

Trump put himself in a position where he was outnumbered two to one and the two teed off on him, even questioning the validity of his statements ... all for the world to see. That alone tells you how dumb the President is.

Pence was in the room and, characteristically, he put on his best rendition of a sphinx. Throughout the whole miserable drama he didn't say a thing.

Schumer made Trump admit that he would be responsible for shutting down the government a few days before Christmas over his border wall. Trump had to admit as well, that his party does not have enough votes to approve the wall in the Senate. He said he had the votes in the House, but that, too, is in serious question because of House Republicans who oppose it. When asked by the USA TODAY Network whether they support the President’s initial $1.6 billion budget request to begin construction, only 69 of the 292 Republicans on Capitol Hill said "yes."

Apparently, Trump doesn't know this.

In other words, on daytime television, Trump admitted that he, and he alone, would shut down the government over his wall.

Honestly, how dumb can you be? Between the President and the vice-president, this was a classic example of how not to be the two leaders of a country.

And that country is ours.

I heard the tape of the meeting. Trump seriously schooled Schumer and Pelosi. The funniest part was when Pelosi objected to the meeting being recorded by the press. Obviously she'd rather conduct her business in some smoke-filled room hidden from view of the American voters, and without all the transparency. Trump did a good job of tattooing the prospective government shutdown to Schumer's and Pelosi's foreheads. It's on them now, if it happens.

This is a fascinating insight from a deplorable. You people don't seem to know which way is up these days. The Orange Virus got his fat ass kicked yesterday on live TV. It's more likely Pelosi asked to continue in private to avoid Orange's further embarrassment. Pence rightfully did his best impression of a potted plant for the duration of the meeting. Schumer got Orange to lay his cards down by getting him to say he will 'proudly' shut down the government if he doesn't get the wall. So Orange will take full responsibility for a shut down, not Schumer or Pelosi. You are mistaken.

The best part is Orange's tantrum afterwards, him throwing a stack of briefing papers around the room in frustration. Sounds like a winner to me!

Yep. I find it very interesting that Trump supporters somehow think that he "won" during the meeting. Schumer got him to take full responsibility, and Pelosi, when she saw the kind of tantrum Trump was starting to throw, suggested that they debate this in private. She didn't want our country to be seen being represented by a child.

And......................for all you Trumpettes who think that Trump wanted to keep the cameras rolling because he's so "transparent" and likes "transparency", just one question...............................

When Trump met with the Russians in the Oval Office, how come he kicked out all the American media?

 

[JGalt]

...this is a make or break issue for Trump. He needs to stick to his guns.

What was that?

That was a reality show. Trump still thinks he is the host of a reality T.V show and the setting was the Oval Office. What could be more embarrassing for Americans than to have the President of the United States get in a shouting match with the future Speaker of the House and the Senate Minority Leader on a daytime television drama.

Trump put himself in a position where he was outnumbered two to one and the two teed off on him, even questioning the validity of his statements ... all for the world to see. That alone tells you how dumb the President is.

Pence was in the room and, characteristically, he put on his best rendition of a sphinx. Throughout the whole miserable drama he didn't say a thing.

Schumer made Trump admit that he would be responsible for shutting down the government a few days before Christmas over his border wall. Trump had to admit as well, that his party does not have enough votes to approve the wall in the Senate. He said he had the votes in the House, but that, too, is in serious question because of House Republicans who oppose it. When asked by the USA TODAY Network whether they support the President’s initial $1.6 billion budget request to begin construction, only 69 of the 292 Republicans on Capitol Hill said "yes."

Apparently, Trump doesn't know this.

In other words, on daytime television, Trump admitted that he, and he alone, would shut down the government over his wall.

Honestly, how dumb can you be? Between the President and the vice-president, this was a classic example of how not to be the two leaders of a country.

And that country is ours.

I heard the tape of the meeting. Trump seriously schooled Schumer and Pelosi. The funniest part was when Pelosi objected to the meeting being recorded by the press. Obviously she'd rather conduct her business in some smoke-filled room hidden from view of the American voters, and without all the transparency. Trump did a good job of tattooing the prospective government shutdown to Schumer's and Pelosi's foreheads. It's on them now, if it happens.

This is a fascinating insight from a deplorable. You people don't seem to know which way is up these days. The Orange Virus got his fat ass kicked yesterday on live TV. It's more likely Pelosi asked to continue in private to avoid Orange's further embarrassment. Pence rightfully did his best impression of a potted plant for the duration of the meeting. Schumer got Orange to lay his cards down by getting him to say he will 'proudly' shut down the government if he doesn't get the wall. So Orange will take full responsibility for a shut down, not Schumer or Pelosi. You are mistaken.

The best part is Orange's tantrum afterwards, him throwing a stack of briefing papers around the room in frustration. Sounds like a winner to me!

Yep. I find it very interesting that Trump supporters somehow think that he "won" during the meeting. Schumer got him to take full responsibility, and Pelosi, when she saw the kind of tantrum Trump was starting to throw, suggested that they debate this in private. She didn't want our country to be seen being represented by a child.

And......................for all you Trumpettes who think that Trump wanted to keep the cameras rolling because he's so "transparent" and likes "transparency", just one question...............................

When Trump met with the Russians in the Oval Office, how come he kicked out all the American media?

Your powers of perception are minimal. Schumer was actually so taken aback when Trump, the most responsible person that he is, told him that he would take full responsibility for shutting down the government.

Schumer was so pussy-whipped by Trump, that he couldn't even look him in the eye. Real men look each other in the eyes. Obviously Chucky isn't a real man.

Pelosi like the little cockroach she is, took umbrage several times because of the fact that Trump was having the meeting out in the open, with the news media present. She is so used to doing her shady deals in some smoke-filled back room where nobody can see just how much of a cockroach she really is.

Kudos to President Trump for being the most transparent and open leader this country has seen in decades.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Again JGalt..................if Trump is so interested in transparency, how come he had all the American media kicked out when he had the Russians in the Oval Office?