There Should be a Wealth Cap

[RDD_1210]

This thread is a perfect example of "when your arguments don't make sense in the real world, it's best to make up an extreme strawman to get your point across"

 

[liarintheWH]

You are not good at this kind of thing, stick to reactionary knee-jerk attack.

Shouldnt you be squatting in a park somewhere begging for handouts ???

You even suck at the knee-jerk attack.

You're wrong. That was funny.

 

[occupied]

Shouldnt you be squatting in a park somewhere begging for handouts ???

You even suck at the knee-jerk attack.

You're wrong. That was funny.

Funny like this is funny.

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[regent]

I don't know about 3 million but what about 300 milliion, 3 billion 300 billion? I'm always amazed that people with billions continue to try and earn more billions? Why? Perhaps that's where the greed kicks in, people want money not because it's needed for life but it is their life. Bill Gates, despite his billions, I don't believe is greedy perhaps, he had little choice, the money just rolled in, but others with billions spend their lives trying to make more.
On the other side of the coin there are the ones that just want to have a job, pay their taxes, raise a family and seem to be just as happy. The problem may be that one is good for America and one not so good.

So those people that DO strive to build great companies...companies that hire tens of thousands of those that just want to have a job, pay their taxes and raise a family...are not good for America? Gotta be honest with you, Regent...I don't know where you're coming from with this whole idea that people who are driven to be successful are a drain on society. It's actually the other way around. Our problem in America is that there aren't enough of those people anymore not too many.

I think we can rest easy that there are plenty around that would like to become rich. The
problem is those that have billions then use those billions to buy legislators; they take their money overseas and bend the tax code so they can keep those billions from going to the government. Once a person has billions it is hard for government to touch those billions, it is much easier for the government to put the squeeze on those that make thousands, the little guy. If those with billions would say, I have enough money to last me for the next thousand years I guess I'll let some others try their luck, but many do not think that way, they only want more. They use their billions keeping the government out of it and keeping others waiting to try their luck. Why? Friedman may have been wrong with his, capitalism is based on greed, because not all capitalists are greedy, but some are.

 

[Oldstyle]

You're rambling, Regent...

If the billionaires have bought off all the politicians as you say they have, then why would they "need" to take their money overseas?

The government doesn't take anything from the guy who makes thousands. He actually gets money FROM the government.

And contrary to what you progressives seem to believe? Most billionaires are tickled pink when someone else becomes successful because they grasp that there isn't a "finite" amount of wealth that has to be divvied up. They understand that just because someone else might become successful it won't detract from their own wealth.

 

[tjvh]

Perhaps 3 Million in assets..................

The rest should be confiscated by progressive bureaucrats to redistribute to those deemed worthy. Too be "fair"..........

Yup... To hell with the American dream... It's only fair.

 

[Politico]

Perhaps 3 Million in assets..................

The rest should be confiscated by progressive bureaucrats to redistribute to those deemed worthy. Too be "fair"..........

You are not good at this kind of thing, stick to reactionary knee-jerk attack.

Shouldnt you be squatting in a park somewhere begging for handouts ???

Spoken like a true occupier hippie. By the way. Did that tear gas hurt a lot?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

obama just killed the American dream

 

[auditor0007]

Perhaps 3 Million in assets..................

The rest should be confiscated by progressive bureaucrats to redistribute to those deemed worthy. Too be "fair"..........

Yea, we know it's sarcasm. Unfortunately, it's stupid sarcasm, because there are only a few truly socialist kooks who would support that. The problem with people like you is that you just don't understand Democrats. Most are not flaming liberals and they are definitely not socialists by any means. Supporting the idea that everyone should have a fair shake at getting ahead does not mean being against people accumulating great wealth. That only becomes a problem if it comes at the expense of the vast majority, where the vast majority does not get a fair shake at getting ahead while the very few increase their wealth dramatically.

You really need to take off the blinders.

 

[Cowman]

Perhaps 3 Million in assets..................

The rest should be confiscated by progressive bureaucrats to redistribute to those deemed worthy. Too be "fair"..........

God, you make the dumbest fucking hyperbolic threads.

 

[Lakhota]

There Should be a Wealth Cap

No, just cut the greedy corporate welfare queens off the government tit. Government should not have to subsidize Walmart by providing food stamps and Medicaid to its employees.

 

[squeeze berry]

Perhaps 3 Million in assets..................

The rest should be confiscated by progressive bureaucrats to redistribute to those deemed worthy. Too be "fair"..........

What there should be is a Maximum wage.

You can accumulate as much wealth as you want..but everyone in this wealthy land should be able to live at a base line standard.

And if business leaders are so greedy..they can't see that..perhaps it needs to be a law.

what is the baseline standard of living?

What would be the baseline standard for work?

PS what about the baseline for paying taxes?

 

[Lakhota]

Here's another government moocher...

 

[gallantwarrior]

Everyone should work for the government at the same rate. No matter what you're doing. All business should be nationalized and run directly by bureaucrats. It's the "fair" thing to do. it will also eliminate pesky competition and allow for maximum govt. revenues. This should go toward those in poverty.

Under your proposal, we will all be equally impoverished.

 

[Rozman]

Perhaps 3 Million in assets..................

The rest should be confiscated by progressive bureaucrats to redistribute to those deemed worthy. Too be "fair"..........

What there should be is a Maximum wage.

You can accumulate as much wealth as you want..but everyone in this wealthy land should be able to live at a base line standard.

And if business leaders are so greedy..they can't see that..perhaps it needs to be a law.

Maybe the Libs can decide how many cars we are "allowed" to have or how big our house should be?...how much land we can own...If we exceed their definition of what's "fair" then that will be confiscated by the State....

What a bunch of ass wipes.

 

[squeeze berry]

Perhaps 3 Million in assets..................

The rest should be confiscated by progressive bureaucrats to redistribute to those deemed worthy. Too be "fair"..........

What there should be is a Maximum wage.

You can accumulate as much wealth as you want..but everyone in this wealthy land should be able to live at a base line standard.

And if business leaders are so greedy..they can't see that..perhaps it needs to be a law.

Maybe the Libs can decide how many cars we are "allowed" to have or how big our house should be?...how much land we can own...If we exceed their definition of what's "fair" then that will be confiscated by the State....

What a bunch of ass wipes.

we "own" three 1/2 acre lots side by side

What will happen?

They confiscate two lots and pull in two FEMA trailers for the "poor"?

Will I need to mow their grass too? Supply water, sewer and electricity?

 

[ScienceRocks]

NO,

You'd have to be insane to want to limit one's ability to create self worth. WTF is wrong with you people???

 

[KissMy]

Which world?

I've never seen the sort of poverty in Europe I see here.

I do see it in places like Thailand and Haiti.

That would be earth...

Are you saying those statistics are not correct? America's poor are in 84th percentile of world wealth. That's a fact. That you, ONE INDIVIDUAL, hasn't experienced poverty in every country of the world does not change that fact. So I ask again, exactly what should be the base line standard of which you speak? Exactly how much higher up the ladder of wealth should America's poor be? Identify the percentile please that you would find acceptable.

He thinks food, shelter, education, healthcare...are all rights and should be provided free to all in America.

I thought those things were already free to all here.

- We have EMTLA so health-care is free.
- Government paid section 8 rent, so shelter is free.
- Public schools & college grants that are free.
- Food Stamps, WIC & SNAP food is free.

All of it paid for by the middle class tax payer who is even forced to subsidize the rich.

 

[KissMy]

Everyone should work for the government at the same rate. No matter what you're doing. All business should be nationalized and run directly by bureaucrats. It's the "fair" thing to do. it will also eliminate pesky competition and allow for maximum govt. revenues. This should go toward those in poverty.

Under your proposal, we will all be equally impoverished.

He is just talking about all the current government workers that make double the average workers income who actually pays their income. Cut their pay & use that to increase the poor's living standard.

 

[KissMy]

...everyone in this wealthy land should be able to live at a base line standard.

And they do.

The fact our poor are considered rich around the world...in the 84th percentile of worldwide wealth...isn't good enough for you? And the fact our "poor" possess items considered luxuries less than a generation ago...that isn't good enough for you either?

Just what do you consider a reasonable "base line standard" for everyone in America? 90th percentile of wealth? 95th?

Which world?

I've never seen the sort of poverty in Europe I see here.

I do see it in places like Thailand and Haiti.

You were not looking very hard. You won't see that in tourist areas. My Mom went to France while the poverty riots were going on & she did not see anything about it. It was on TV here every day.