The Simple Arithmetic of Republican Failure

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    David Fiderer: The Simple Arithmetic of Republican Failure

    Increases in Government Debt

    Growth In Debt Held By the Public [$US trillions]
    Jimmy Carter, 1977-1980: 0.2
    Bill Clinton, 1993-1996: 0.7
    Bill Clinton, 1997-2000: -0.3 (NOTE: minus means he actually "decreased" debt)
    Democratic Total: 0.6

    Ronald Reagan 1981-1984: 0.6
    Ronald Reagan 1985-1988: 0.7
    George H.W. Bush 1989-1992: 0.9
    George W. Bush 2001-2004: 0.9
    George W. Bush 2005-2007: 1.1
    Republican Total: 4.3

    ----------Since the Republicans didn't include the cost of either war in their budgets, do you think those numbers were included?

    "The Bush administration opposes including Social Security and Medicare in the audited deficit. Its reason: Congress can cancel or cut the retirement programs at any time, so they should not be considered a government liability for accounting purposes." USA Today, August 3, 2006

    Sources:
    Job Creation: Bureau of Labor Statistics Seasonally adjusted nonfarm payrolls, calculated on calendar years
    Government Spending: OMB, On-Budget Outlays divided by On-Budget Revenues
    Increases in Government Debt: OMB

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    I'm sure Republicans have "alternate" numbers. They usually "pull them" out of a place that is dark and damp. Some refer to that place as an "alternate universe". Others call that place by a different name.
     
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    And looking at the figures I linked to, we know why the enormous debt.

    You want a real hoot? Got to Fox News and read what they say about Bush's budget. They try to sugar coat it, but can't really.

    Bush didn't include the cost of either war in his budget. Bush included an estimated trillion dollar cut from Medicare and Medicaid that he had to know Congress would never approve. Bush didn't include the more than 700 billion stimulus package that he didn't keep any track of.

    What Obama did was include the cost of both wars. Include the cost of Bush's stimulus package. Take out the ridiculous cuts Bush put in as part of his "fiscal lie to the American People". Suddenly, Obama's budget was much larger than Bush's. Because Bush lied. The right has to know that but they will deny it. They are such a bunch of lemmings.

    FOXNews.com - Critics: Bush Budget Leaves Out Too Much - Politics | Republican Party | Democratic Party | Political Spectrum
     
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    You sound as if you think Obama is not spending like a drunken sailor. Bush is no longer President. It is Obama that should be stopped now.

    Get a fuckin' grip on reality. The Boy King is a Marxist...set about to bring Marxism/Socialism/Communism to the USA by way of economic control. Tax and spend, borrow and spend, spend, spend, spend. Pass laws that sound good but have to be paid for later...force our grandchildren to work for the government.

    You are BLIND, DEAF and DUMB!
     
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    The simple arithmatic of why rdean dropped out of school when he was 10.

    1993 Clinton took office with a 4.1 trillion dollar national debt.

    January of 2001 Clinton left office with a 5.27 trillion dollar national debt.

    5.27 - 4.1 = 1.17 trillion dollars.
    All figures can be found at treasurydirect.gov instead of a left wing loon website that appeals to the easily duped...such as rdean and his classmate edthedumbfuck for example...
    rdean and edthedumbfuck went to the same school....Shithead Elementary followed by Loser Junior High. Obviously rdean's strong suit isn't 1st grade math.

    and to add dishonesty to rdean's distorted sense of reality in bizzarro world would be a compliment but I must digress...ed thinks 5.27 - 4.1 = .6 :lol: :lol: :lol:

    Before you throw this red herring out there for other dupes like you let's get this out in the open....the BUDGET surplus doesn't have anything to do with the National Debt.
     
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    Government - Historical Debt Outstanding - Annual 2000 - 2009

    You might want to review that a little more.

    2000 when Bush took office:

    09/30/2000 5,674,178,209,886.86

    2008 when Bush left office:

    09/30/2008 10,024,724,896,912.49

    2009 since Obama has been President:

    09/30/2009 11,909,829,003,511.75

    Hardly looks like 4 times greater. We also know that the Republicans didn't include the cost of either war in the budget and included a trillion dollars in Medicare and Medicaid cuts that were never going to happen to lower the budget figure. In effect, to "lie" to the American people. Wow, it's not like they have never done THAT before.

    Now the question becomes, "During the 8 years Republicans were in charge of American wealth, what did they spend it on?" They didn't clean up New Orleans. They didn't work on America's infra structure. They didn't reform health care. They didn't win two wars. They didn't get Bin Laden. Where did the money go?

    AND,

    They accuse Obama of spending like a drunken sailor. ON WHAT? What has he spent money on? He kept us from having a financial meltdown (uh, caused by the way, by Republican fiscal polices) and he did it only raising the debt by between 10 and 20%.

    Just one question, "What the hell IS a Republcian fiscal policy?" I think I know. Isn't it tax cuts for the rich and screw everyone else?

    What is wrong with you guys. Republicans stripped this country of it's wealth and tried desperately to flush the world economy down the drain, and they feel the job is NOT DONE.
     
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    Have you done the math on your own figures here? Rounding things off to the nearest million. Gives Obama 1 trillion, 885 Billion, 105 million in debt. That would be nearly 2 trillion dollars And you don't even have a clue what he has spent it on? 2 Trillion dollars? What the hell..........

    And that may or may not include the nearly trillion that we have collected back from the Bush bank bailouts. If it does that's nearly 3 trillion spent in debt.
     
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    You HAD to muddy the waters, didn't you.
     
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    Huffington? :lol:


    Fucking libs are desperate these days.

    I would be too if my messiah's numbers were on a one way freight train going down. :lol:
     

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