A Handy Source of Fiscal Data, or "How Their Naked Ears Were Tortured By The Horseman's Ruthless Cipherin"

[The5thHorseman]

3.25 what?
Post your ESA evidence and we can look at how bad your original numbers were.

Toddster,

When you do what you've been asked to do, I will post that link.

And FOR FUCK'S SAKE, I haven't made up any numbers....you have.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Toddster,

When you do what you've been asked to do, I will post that link.

And FOR FUCK'S SAKE, I haven't made up any numbers....you have.

Let me know if you ever come up with an honest ending number for Bush.

Then we can get a real comparison between Bush and Obama spending growth.

Then we can discuss your fantasy that only the president is responsible.

I haven't made up any numbers....you have.

The TARP numbers aren't made up. Even someone as dim as you could examine them.

 

[The5thHorseman]

Let me know if you ever come up with an honest ending number for Bush.

Then we can get a real comparison between Bush and Obama spending growth.

Then we can discuss your fantasy that only the president is responsible.

I haven't made up any numbers....you have.

The TARP numbers aren't made up. Even someone as dim as you could examine them.

Toddy,

I must conclude from your refusal to acknowledge the truth of the math that you know you've lost.

But that isn't what should bother you the most.

You're a fraud. Your "analytical skills" suck. You're a smile&dial guy. You're given a pitch and you deliver it....you are why "the Stupid Money" is "the Stupid Money".

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Toddy,

I must conclude from your refusal to acknowledge the truth of the math that you know you've lost.

But that isn't what should bother you the most.

You're a fraud. Your "analytical skills" suck. You're a smile&dial guy. You're given a pitch and you deliver it....you are why "the Stupid Money" is "the Stupid Money".

Keep believing the Bush's 2009 FY spending was $3.517 trillion and
that Obama and Clinton were budget hawks. It's cute.

 

[The5thHorseman]

Keep believing the Bush's 2009 FY spending was $3.517 trillion and
that Obama and Clinton were budget hawks. It's cute.

and
that Obama and Clinton were budget hawks. It's cute.

Given the respective growth rates in outlays and revenues, after 16 years the Clinton/Obama paradigm would leave Outlays at 1.48 and Revenues at 2.71 , with a Surplus of 1.23.


That looks pretty Hawkey to me.

The Bush/Bush/Trump option would have Outlays at 2.68 with Revenues of 1.92, for Deficit of 0.76.

Not quite so Hawkey.

Clear?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Given the respective growth rates in outlays and revenues, after 16 years the Clinton/Obama paradigm would leave Outlays at 1.48 and Revenues at 2.71 , with a Surplus of 1.23.


That looks pretty Hawkey to me.

The Bush/Bush/Trump option would have Outlays at 2.68 with Revenues of 1.92, for Deficit of 0.76.

Not quite so Hawkey.

Clear?

What was your budget baseline at the start of Obama's amazing budget hawkiness?

It wasn't $3.517 trillion, was it?

 

[The5thHorseman]

What was your budget baseline at the start of Obama's amazing budget hawkiness?

It wasn't $3.517 trillion, was it?

Take it down to his request plus ESAs, absolve him of all responsibility for the Wages of Supply Side Idiocy, then recalculate his growth rate and Obama's.

Get back to me.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Take it down to his request plus ESAs, absolve him of all responsibility for the Wages of Supply Side Idiocy, then recalculate his growth rate and Obama's.

Get back to me.

Bush's requests don't matter. Proposed ESAs don't matter.
Spending approved by Congress and then spent in FY2009 is the only thing
that matters for Obama's starting point.

What's Obama's starting number? (hint: it's not $3.517 trillion)

 

[The5thHorseman]

Bush's requests don't matter. Proposed ESAs don't matter.
Spending approved by Congress and then spent in FY2009 is the only thing
that matters for Obama's starting point.

What's Obama's starting number? (hint: it's not $3.517 trillion)

I don't want to hear any more of your uninformed shit.

I want to see your math.

Being extremely generout to you, I'll let you start at 3.25 trillion.


Now show me some math.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I don't want to hear any more of your uninformed shit.

I want to see your math.

Being extremely generout to you, I'll let you start at 3.25 trillion.


Now show me some math.

Why $3.25 trillion?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I don't want to hear any more of your uninformed shit.

I want to see your math.

Being extremely generout to you, I'll let you start at 3.25 trillion.


Now show me some math.

Bailout Tracker

ProPublica is still tracking where every dollar of taxpayer money from the 2008 bailout of the financial system has gone. See for yourself.

projects.propublica.org

You'll have to do some actual work to find outstanding loans at the end of FY 2009.

I'm not hopeful that you can do it.

 

[The5thHorseman]

Why $3.25 trillion?

I have explained that.

 

[The5thHorseman]

Bailout Tracker

ProPublica is still tracking where every dollar of taxpayer money from the 2008 bailout of the financial system has gone. See for yourself.

projects.propublica.org

You'll have to do some actual work to find outstanding loans at the end of FY 2009.

I'm not hopeful that you can do it.

I don't have to do shit.

If you have some discounting you want to do, the responsibility for doing the works is ENTIRELY yours.

What's my incentive to do more given you haven't acknowledged xit to date?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I have explained that.

Break it out again.

 

[The5thHorseman]

Break it out again.

Scroll up.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I don't have to do shit.

If you have some discounting you want to do, the responsibility for doing the works is ENTIRELY yours.

What's my incentive to do more given you haven't acknowledged xit to date?

Obviously, you didn't do anything, because you used $3.517 trillion in the OP.

End Bush with a garbage number, your compounding calcs are useless.

What's my incentive to do more

You have no incentive to acknowledge your huge errors.
What's $712 billion between friends?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Scroll up.

You didn't break out $267 billion above.

 

[The5thHorseman]

Obviously, you didn't do anything, because you used $3.517 trillion in the OP.

End Bush with a garbage number, your compounding calcs are useless.

What's my incentive to do more

You have no incentive to acknowledge your huge errors.
What's $712 billion between friends?

Toddy,

Find a credible source with a different number, or stop mewling.

You have no incentive to acknowledge your huge errors.
What's $712 billion between friends?

Your number jumps around a lot....the final AUTHORIZATION for TARP was about 470 billion.

You didn't break out $267 billion above.

I have nothing else to break out.

His request plus ESAs.

3.1 + 0.15

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Toddy,

Find a credible source with a different number, or stop mewling.




Your number jumps around a lot....the final AUTHORIZATION for TARP was about 470 billion.


I have nothing else to break out.

His request plus ESAs.

3.1 + 0.15

Your number jumps around a lot....the final AUTHORIZATION for TARP was about 470 billion.

The outstanding TARP loans plus the Fannie and Freddie money.

His request plus ESAs.

When Congress is controlled by the opposing party, a request isn't worth
the toilet paper it is printed on.

You can do it, work up an honest ending point for Bush FY 2009 spending.

 

[The5thHorseman]

Your number jumps around a lot....the final AUTHORIZATION for TARP was about 470 billion.

The outstanding TARP loans plus the Fannie and Freddie money.

His request plus ESAs.

When Congress is controlled by the opposing party, a request isn't worth
the toilet paper it is printed on.

You can do it, work up an honest ending point for Bush FY 2009 spending.

Toddy,

You aren't free to litter this place with assertions. Your refusal to accept isn't my burden.

Either come up with sources or take your whipping curled up in the fetal position.