The Second Greatest Political Lie

[NYcarbineer]

You need a government to protect private property, so you can't be both.

Do ya? Now you're basing this upon what Gilligan?

I'm basing it on common sense logic and reason that are concepts alien to the humanoids on your planet.

OH! So you have absolutely no basis for your assertion... .

LOL!

Color me SHOCKED!

Gilligan you're helpless.

So you think the right to claim ownership of private property has no need of government enforcement?

 

[Wry Catcher]

In political parlance, a lie is not just something that is not true, but something that is untrue, but serves the purpose of advancing a political agenda.


1. Georges Eugène Sorel (2 November 1847 in Cherbourg – 29 August 1922 in Boulogne-sur-Seine) was a French philosopher and theorist of revolutionary syndicalism. His notion of the power of myth in people's lives inspired Marxists and Fascists, it is, together with his defense of violence, the contribution for which he is most often remembered. Georges Sorel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

a. His identification of the need for a deliberately-conceived "myth" to sway crowds into concerted action was put to use by the Fascist and Communist movements of the 1920s and after. http://homepage.newschool.edu/het//profiles/sorel.htm

b. "For Sen. [Hillary] Clinton, something is true if it validates the myth of her striving and her "greatness" (her overweening ambition in other words) and only ceases to be true when it no longer serves that limitless purpose. "
The case against Hillary Clinton. - By Christopher Hitchens - Slate Magazine]




2. The 'Greatest Lie" is the one that the modern Liberals tell. They claim that those called Liberals today are the liberals who founded this great nation. Nothing could be further from the truth. The Founders were 'classical liberals,' whose vision included . individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government. That's why they wrote out a detailed Constitution.

a. Communist John Dewey, the one who corrupted education in this country, convinced the Socialist Party to change its name to 'Liberal.' And it's values and doctrines formed those called Liberals today.


The benefit to them, of course, is that the uninformed attribute the greatness of the Founders, of America, to them.




3. The "Second Greatest Lie" is also designed to benefit Leftists. It is that the political spectrum has communists on the left, and the Nazis on the right. It is a conscious and carefully crafted lie. And it is because the Left controls the schools and the media that it has been allowed to survive.

This is what a careful study of history shows:
When the worldwide recession, known as the Great Depression, caused many to believe that capitalism had failed, big government command and control economies took control, promising solutions.

The economic plans of Mussolini, Adolph Hitler, Joseph Stalin and Franklin Roosevelt were all variations on the same theme.

a. Many government school grads have been trained to see FDR as a demigod.
"Comparisons of the New Deal with totalitarian ideologies were provided from all sides. A Republican senator described the NRA as having gone “too far in the Russian direction,” and a Democrat accused FDR of trying “to transplant Hitlerism to every corner of this country.” Wolfgang Schivelbusch, “Three New Deals,” p. 27.



This thread will expound on that "Second Greatest Lie."
By doing so, it will explain why Leftist government schools won't teach real history.

#2 is a LIE of Omission:

See: Liberalism (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)

It is a marvel to behold how PC constantly and consistently destroys you in this thread.

You call #2 a "lie of omission" but can't present her with whatever presumed fact or truth she omitted. That is quite clear by your name calling and random citations of argumentative fallacies.

Hey, did you read the articles on Liberalism and Conservatism? Did you note the annotation and bibliography? PC is a dilettante and a troll; Keys is simply a moron.

 

[Ame®icano]

In political parlance, a lie is not just something that is not true, but something that is untrue, but serves the purpose of advancing a political agenda.


1. Georges Eugène Sorel (2 November 1847 in Cherbourg – 29 August 1922 in Boulogne-sur-Seine) was a French philosopher and theorist of revolutionary syndicalism. His notion of the power of myth in people's lives inspired Marxists and Fascists, it is, together with his defense of violence, the contribution for which he is most often remembered. Georges Sorel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

a. His identification of the need for a deliberately-conceived "myth" to sway crowds into concerted action was put to use by the Fascist and Communist movements of the 1920s and after. http://homepage.newschool.edu/het//profiles/sorel.htm

b. "For Sen. [Hillary] Clinton, something is true if it validates the myth of her striving and her "greatness" (her overweening ambition in other words) and only ceases to be true when it no longer serves that limitless purpose. "
The case against Hillary Clinton. - By Christopher Hitchens - Slate Magazine]




2. The 'Greatest Lie" is the one that the modern Liberals tell. They claim that those called Liberals today are the liberals who founded this great nation. Nothing could be further from the truth. The Founders were 'classical liberals,' whose vision included . individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government. That's why they wrote out a detailed Constitution.

a. Communist John Dewey, the one who corrupted education in this country, convinced the Socialist Party to change its name to 'Liberal.' And it's values and doctrines formed those called Liberals today.


The benefit to them, of course, is that the uninformed attribute the greatness of the Founders, of America, to them.




3. The "Second Greatest Lie" is also designed to benefit Leftists. It is that the political spectrum has communists on the left, and the Nazis on the right. It is a conscious and carefully crafted lie. And it is because the Left controls the schools and the media that it has been allowed to survive.

This is what a careful study of history shows:
When the worldwide recession, known as the Great Depression, caused many to believe that capitalism had failed, big government command and control economies took control, promising solutions.

The economic plans of Mussolini, Adolph Hitler, Joseph Stalin and Franklin Roosevelt were all variations on the same theme.

a. Many government school grads have been trained to see FDR as a demigod.
"Comparisons of the New Deal with totalitarian ideologies were provided from all sides. A Republican senator described the NRA as having gone “too far in the Russian direction,” and a Democrat accused FDR of trying “to transplant Hitlerism to every corner of this country.” Wolfgang Schivelbusch, “Three New Deals,” p. 27.



This thread will expound on that "Second Greatest Lie."
By doing so, it will explain why Leftist government schools won't teach real history.

Right on PC.

I've been saying pretty much the same, we had discussion about it few years back.

What is the biggest Liberal myth for political gain?

 

[TemplarKormac]

In political parlance, a lie is not just something that is not true, but something that is untrue, but serves the purpose of advancing a political agenda.


1. Georges Eugène Sorel (2 November 1847 in Cherbourg – 29 August 1922 in Boulogne-sur-Seine) was a French philosopher and theorist of revolutionary syndicalism. His notion of the power of myth in people's lives inspired Marxists and Fascists, it is, together with his defense of violence, the contribution for which he is most often remembered. Georges Sorel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

a. His identification of the need for a deliberately-conceived "myth" to sway crowds into concerted action was put to use by the Fascist and Communist movements of the 1920s and after. http://homepage.newschool.edu/het//profiles/sorel.htm

b. "For Sen. [Hillary] Clinton, something is true if it validates the myth of her striving and her "greatness" (her overweening ambition in other words) and only ceases to be true when it no longer serves that limitless purpose. "
The case against Hillary Clinton. - By Christopher Hitchens - Slate Magazine]




2. The 'Greatest Lie" is the one that the modern Liberals tell. They claim that those called Liberals today are the liberals who founded this great nation. Nothing could be further from the truth. The Founders were 'classical liberals,' whose vision included . individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government. That's why they wrote out a detailed Constitution.

a. Communist John Dewey, the one who corrupted education in this country, convinced the Socialist Party to change its name to 'Liberal.' And it's values and doctrines formed those called Liberals today.


The benefit to them, of course, is that the uninformed attribute the greatness of the Founders, of America, to them.




3. The "Second Greatest Lie" is also designed to benefit Leftists. It is that the political spectrum has communists on the left, and the Nazis on the right. It is a conscious and carefully crafted lie. And it is because the Left controls the schools and the media that it has been allowed to survive.

This is what a careful study of history shows:
When the worldwide recession, known as the Great Depression, caused many to believe that capitalism had failed, big government command and control economies took control, promising solutions.

The economic plans of Mussolini, Adolph Hitler, Joseph Stalin and Franklin Roosevelt were all variations on the same theme.

a. Many government school grads have been trained to see FDR as a demigod.
"Comparisons of the New Deal with totalitarian ideologies were provided from all sides. A Republican senator described the NRA as having gone “too far in the Russian direction,” and a Democrat accused FDR of trying “to transplant Hitlerism to every corner of this country.” Wolfgang Schivelbusch, “Three New Deals,” p. 27.



This thread will expound on that "Second Greatest Lie."
By doing so, it will explain why Leftist government schools won't teach real history.

#2 is a LIE of Omission:

See: Liberalism (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)

It is a marvel to behold how PC constantly and consistently destroys you in this thread.

You call #2 a "lie of omission" but can't present her with whatever presumed fact or truth she omitted. That is quite clear by your name calling and random citations of argumentative fallacies.

Hey, did you read the articles on Liberalism and Conservatism? Did you note the annotation and bibliography? PC is a dilettante and a troll; Keys is simply a moron.

Do you read your own links? Or do you post things from Stanford to make yourself look smart?

Your Stanford article, especially the part on "new liberalism" only did more to prove her case than yours. It describes essentially communism and fascism, without actually calling it that.

For your edification:

"The third factor underlying the development of the new liberalism was probably the most fundamental: a growing conviction that, so far from being ‘the guardian of every other right’ (Ely, 1992: 26), property rights generated an unjust inequality of power that led to a less-than-equal liberty (typically, ‘positive liberty’) for the working class. This theme is central to what is usually called ‘liberalism’ in American politics, combining a strong endorsement of civil and personal liberties with, at best, an indifference, and often enough an antipathy, to private ownership

Now, this is more similar to Socialism, Fascism or Communism. Not conservatism. Go on now, I know for a fact now there will be two turkeys at your dinner table tomorrow: one carving the other. Happy Thanksgiving!

 

[ThoughtCrimes]

You err! Chica's entire BS line is a comparison in philosophies.

I KNOW Thoreau's philosophy was NOT that of Chica's dream "conservative"! Thoreau was a fucking ANARCHRIST...

Anarchy is a function of the individual... not states. Thoreau, not being an idiot... understood that.

Americans are ALL anarchist. We are sovereigns unto ourselves... we govern ourselves, sustain ourselves and our families, and we do so despite government, not as a consequence of it.

That you feel Thoreau was something he was not... says far more about you and your limitations, than it does about Chic and her thesis.

The political philosophies of a Democrat, a Republican, a Communist, a Fascist, a Liberal, a Conservative or an Anarchist are all personally held as well as collectively as a member of the particular identified/classified group, tribe, herd, flock or gaggle. Are you capable of encompassing that concept in those terms? Don't confuse the individual within the labeled group with a structured form of "governance"...the State. Of course Thoreau understood that.

I cannot believe you claimed, "Americans are ALL anarchist." That claim is abjectly stupid! Anarchy can be defined as a condition of disruption of order due to the absence or non-recognition of lawful authority.

How many banks have you held up? Do you openly refuse to pay your income taxes? When did you last steal a car or kill someone? You most likely did none of those things because you willingly obey the laws of the various jurisdictions enforcing same. No, you are either not an anarchist or you are not true to your professed conviction; a show pony. I am not moved.

Thoreau was who he said he was; ""That government is best which governs not at all"; and when men are prepared for it, that will be the kind of government which they will have."

 

[KevinMcCarthyToo]

Pseudo-intellectualism.

Look it up.

She is the biggest gas bag on this site.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

The political philosophies of a Democrat, ...

Sweet Mother... The Democrats are Leftists, and Left-think is an ideology, not a philosophy Dexter.

What's more is that Anarchy is the absence of government... PERIOD.

Where two people gather... there comes a necessity to establish rules.

The moment that rules are established, a governing construct comes into play and Anarchy is gone.

Therefore, Anarchy is only possible within an individual. An Anarchist is one who governs himself... bearing the full weight of the responsibilities to sustain his means to govern himself; OKA his freedom.

You're conflating outlaw with anarchy. Like most idiots, you believe that being an anarchist is living without law. When there is no existence possible absent law... as the universe you exist in is bound by laws.

As anarchist you may remain such only by bearing the RESPONSIBILITIES that sustain such. And part and parcel of those responsibilities is to either go find a place where you are by yourself, or to obey the laws where you choose to live. Now, this assumes that the laws are objectively valid... thus not the consequence of some addled collective, founded upon the subjective corruption typical of liberalism, progressivism (fascism), socialism and of course the farcical notions of communism.

This is VERY easy... fundamental stuff here Scooter. Bank robbers, armed robbers, thugs of all stripes... are idiots, who die young and usually bloody and who are not missed.

Anarchists who live their lives in adherence to the laws of nature live free, usually long term and are usually indispensable to those around them... .

But... if it helps, you and clowns like you are the reason that anarchy has such a shitty rep... . But you're also the reason that liberalism, progressivism, socialism and communism has such a shitty rep, you're idiots. You talk a ton of shit about your rights, you reject anything approaching responsibility and you make everyone around you miserable... because you're dead fucking weight.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Pseudo-intellectualism.

Look it up.

She is the biggest gas bag on this site.

ROFL!

 

[ThoughtCrimes]

The political philosophies of a Democrat, ...

Sweet Mother... The Democrats are Leftists, and Left-think is an ideology, not a philosophy Dexter.

What's more is that Anarchy is the absence of government... PERIOD.

Where two people gather... there comes a necessity to establish rules.

The moment that rules are established, a governing construct comes into play and Anarchy is gone.

Therefore, Anarchy is only possible within an individual. An Anarchist is one who governs himself... bearing the full weight of the responsibilities to sustain his means to govern himself; OKA his freedom.

You're conflating outlaw with anarchy. Like most idiots, you believe that being an anarchist is living without law. When there is no existence possible absent law... as the universe you exist in is bound by laws.

As anarchist you may remain such only by bearing the RESPONSIBILITIES that sustain such. And part and parcel of those responsibilities is to either go find a place where you are by yourself, or to obey the laws where you choose to live. Now, this assumes that the laws are objectively valid... thus not the consequence of some addled collective, founded upon the subjective corruption typical of liberalism, progressivism (fascism), socialism and of course the farcical notions of communism.

This is VERY easy... fundamental stuff here Scooter. Bank robbers, armed robbers, thugs of all stripes... are idiots, who die young and usually bloody and who are not missed.

Anarchists who live their lives in adherence to the laws of nature live free, usually long term and are usually indispensable to those around them... .

But... if it helps, you and clowns like you are the reason that anarchy has such a shitty rep... . But you're also the reason that liberalism, progressivism, socialism and communism has such a shitty rep, you're idiots. You talk a ton of shit about your rights, you reject anything approaching responsibility and you make everyone around you miserable... because you're dead fucking weight.

I can do ad hominem too, ass wipe! That whole fucking diatribe is so full of holes, as to not to be worthy of note, shit for brains, save this to which I will make comment!

Your claim implying anarchists are totally something other than the wildly understood definition is pure bullshit and your fucked attempt to change the narrative is duly noted! I never conflated anarchy and outlawry as there was no need to do so, dummy. Violating the law is a facet of anarchic behavior and well documented, idiot! Shit, Thoreau was even jailed for non payment of taxes for six years and refusing to pay a fine; the actions of an ANARCHIST!

I give a rats ass for your Randian concept of individual sovereignty! I belong to no fucking clan of fools!

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

I can do ad hominem too, ass wipe!

Asserting that I wipe my ass isn't an attack on the individual... But I can see that you're trying and THAT is just ADORABLE!

That whole fucking diatribe is so full of holes, as to not to be worthy of note...![/QUOTE]

Well... I want you to know that it is clear to me, that you did the VERY BEST you could.

And your concession is duly noted and summarily accepted.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

In political parlance, a lie is not just something that is not true, but something that is untrue, but serves the purpose of advancing a political agenda.


1. Georges Eugène Sorel (2 November 1847 in Cherbourg – 29 August 1922 in Boulogne-sur-Seine) was a French philosopher and theorist of revolutionary syndicalism. His notion of the power of myth in people's lives inspired Marxists and Fascists, it is, together with his defense of violence, the contribution for which he is most often remembered. Georges Sorel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

a. His identification of the need for a deliberately-conceived "myth" to sway crowds into concerted action was put to use by the Fascist and Communist movements of the 1920s and after. http://homepage.newschool.edu/het//profiles/sorel.htm

b. "For Sen. [Hillary] Clinton, something is true if it validates the myth of her striving and her "greatness" (her overweening ambition in other words) and only ceases to be true when it no longer serves that limitless purpose. "
The case against Hillary Clinton. - By Christopher Hitchens - Slate Magazine]




2. The 'Greatest Lie" is the one that the modern Liberals tell. They claim that those called Liberals today are the liberals who founded this great nation. Nothing could be further from the truth. The Founders were 'classical liberals,' whose vision included . individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government. That's why they wrote out a detailed Constitution.

a. Communist John Dewey, the one who corrupted education in this country, convinced the Socialist Party to change its name to 'Liberal.' And it's values and doctrines formed those called Liberals today.


The benefit to them, of course, is that the uninformed attribute the greatness of the Founders, of America, to them.




3. The "Second Greatest Lie" is also designed to benefit Leftists. It is that the political spectrum has communists on the left, and the Nazis on the right. It is a conscious and carefully crafted lie. And it is because the Left controls the schools and the media that it has been allowed to survive.

This is what a careful study of history shows:
When the worldwide recession, known as the Great Depression, caused many to believe that capitalism had failed, big government command and control economies took control, promising solutions.

The economic plans of Mussolini, Adolph Hitler, Joseph Stalin and Franklin Roosevelt were all variations on the same theme.

a. Many government school grads have been trained to see FDR as a demigod.
"Comparisons of the New Deal with totalitarian ideologies were provided from all sides. A Republican senator described the NRA as having gone “too far in the Russian direction,” and a Democrat accused FDR of trying “to transplant Hitlerism to every corner of this country.” Wolfgang Schivelbusch, “Three New Deals,” p. 27.



This thread will expound on that "Second Greatest Lie."
By doing so, it will explain why Leftist government schools won't teach real history.

#2 is a LIE of Omission:

See: Liberalism (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)

It is a marvel to behold how PC constantly and consistently destroys you in this thread.

You call #2 a "lie of omission" but can't present her with whatever presumed fact or truth she omitted. That is quite clear by your name calling and random citations of argumentative fallacies.

Hey, did you read the articles on Liberalism and Conservatism? Did you note the annotation and bibliography? PC is a dilettante and a troll; Keys is simply a moron.

Ahh... she's tryin' SO HARD!

LOL! ... Now how PRECIOUS is that? Huh?

All that noise from both of these cranks and not a scintilla of argument to be found in the entire screed.

 

[Mustang]

In political parlance, a lie is not just something that is not true, but something that is untrue, but serves the purpose of advancing a political agenda.


1. Georges Eugène Sorel (2 November 1847 in Cherbourg – 29 August 1922 in Boulogne-sur-Seine) was a French philosopher and theorist of revolutionary syndicalism. His notion of the power of myth in people's lives inspired Marxists and Fascists, it is, together with his defense of violence, the contribution for which he is most often remembered. Georges Sorel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

a. His identification of the need for a deliberately-conceived "myth" to sway crowds into concerted action was put to use by the Fascist and Communist movements of the 1920s and after. http://homepage.newschool.edu/het//profiles/sorel.htm

b. "For Sen. [Hillary] Clinton, something is true if it validates the myth of her striving and her "greatness" (her overweening ambition in other words) and only ceases to be true when it no longer serves that limitless purpose. "
The case against Hillary Clinton. - By Christopher Hitchens - Slate Magazine]




2. The 'Greatest Lie" is the one that the modern Liberals tell. They claim that those called Liberals today are the liberals who founded this great nation. Nothing could be further from the truth. The Founders were 'classical liberals,' whose vision included . individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government. That's why they wrote out a detailed Constitution.

a. Communist John Dewey, the one who corrupted education in this country, convinced the Socialist Party to change its name to 'Liberal.' And it's values and doctrines formed those called Liberals today.


The benefit to them, of course, is that the uninformed attribute the greatness of the Founders, of America, to them.




3. The "Second Greatest Lie" is also designed to benefit Leftists. It is that the political spectrum has communists on the left, and the Nazis on the right. It is a conscious and carefully crafted lie. And it is because the Left controls the schools and the media that it has been allowed to survive.

This is what a careful study of history shows:
When the worldwide recession, known as the Great Depression, caused many to believe that capitalism had failed, big government command and control economies took control, promising solutions.

The economic plans of Mussolini, Adolph Hitler, Joseph Stalin and Franklin Roosevelt were all variations on the same theme.

a. Many government school grads have been trained to see FDR as a demigod.
"Comparisons of the New Deal with totalitarian ideologies were provided from all sides. A Republican senator described the NRA as having gone “too far in the Russian direction,” and a Democrat accused FDR of trying “to transplant Hitlerism to every corner of this country.” Wolfgang Schivelbusch, “Three New Deals,” p. 27.



This thread will expound on that "Second Greatest Lie."
By doing so, it will explain why Leftist government schools won't teach real history.

He certainly didn't invent lying. Hell, I dare to say that lying has been around as long as people have possessed the power of speech. Now, if you want to hear nonstop lying, listen to talk radio! What am I saying? That's undoubtedly where you get most of your indoctrination.

By the way, do you recall the name of the person who is attributed to the following statement about a certain cherry tree when, at the age of 6, he was asked by his father what had become of the cherry tree?

"I cannot tell a lie, father, you know I cannot tell a lie! I did cut it with my little hatchet.''

Of course it was George Washington.

Politics has many definitions. I believe one of them is the art of lying. Now, to think that the American revolution was solely a noble cause pushed by people who only possessed the noblest of intentions is a lie in and of itself. But it's a good'un which is one of the reasons that all portraits and statues from the period make all those men look so damn noble and holy. Some of them, quite frankly, were scoundrels.

It is as it's always been.

 

[Searcher44]

In political parlance, a lie is not just something that is not true, but something that is untrue, but serves the purpose of advancing a political agenda.


1. Georges Eugène Sorel (2 November 1847 in Cherbourg – 29 August 1922 in Boulogne-sur-Seine) was a French philosopher and theorist of revolutionary syndicalism. His notion of the power of myth in people's lives inspired Marxists and Fascists, it is, together with his defense of violence, the contribution for which he is most often remembered. Georges Sorel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

a. His identification of the need for a deliberately-conceived "myth" to sway crowds into concerted action was put to use by the Fascist and Communist movements of the 1920s and after. http://homepage.newschool.edu/het//profiles/sorel.htm

b. "For Sen. [Hillary] Clinton, something is true if it validates the myth of her striving and her "greatness" (her overweening ambition in other words) and only ceases to be true when it no longer serves that limitless purpose. "
The case against Hillary Clinton. - By Christopher Hitchens - Slate Magazine]




2. The 'Greatest Lie" is the one that the modern Liberals tell. They claim that those called Liberals today are the liberals who founded this great nation. Nothing could be further from the truth. The Founders were 'classical liberals,' whose vision included . individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government. That's why they wrote out a detailed Constitution.

a. Communist John Dewey, the one who corrupted education in this country, convinced the Socialist Party to change its name to 'Liberal.' And it's values and doctrines formed those called Liberals today.


The benefit to them, of course, is that the uninformed attribute the greatness of the Founders, of America, to them.




3. The "Second Greatest Lie" is also designed to benefit Leftists. It is that the political spectrum has communists on the left, and the Nazis on the right. It is a conscious and carefully crafted lie. And it is because the Left controls the schools and the media that it has been allowed to survive.

This is what a careful study of history shows:
When the worldwide recession, known as the Great Depression, caused many to believe that capitalism had failed, big government command and control economies took control, promising solutions.

The economic plans of Mussolini, Adolph Hitler, Joseph Stalin and Franklin Roosevelt were all variations on the same theme.

a. Many government school grads have been trained to see FDR as a demigod.
"Comparisons of the New Deal with totalitarian ideologies were provided from all sides. A Republican senator described the NRA as having gone “too far in the Russian direction,” and a Democrat accused FDR of trying “to transplant Hitlerism to every corner of this country.” Wolfgang Schivelbusch, “Three New Deals,” p. 27.



This thread will expound on that "Second Greatest Lie."
By doing so, it will explain why Leftist government schools won't teach real history.

You need an editor. You should have said "Leftist government schools abjure real history".
Yeah. See? That's better. You should use that word more. Really.

 

[candycorn]

Sheesh, PC is at it again but this time pushing her gross ignorance. If Nazism is leftist then PC will have to concede that North Korea is both a Democracy and a Republic since the name is the Democratic People's Republic of North Korea. Fortunately, we both know that's ridiculous. Claiming the Nazi's were Socialist is more ridiculous. Hitler used that word for the resonance it had with the workers he needed to attract to build a war machine, but make no mistake, his ideology in both fact and theory are as far as the definition from Liberalism as it is possible to get.

The truth is that conservatives are much more like Facist regimes than the Liberals, who are naturally receptive to other ideas. It is the Conservatives who want to tell you what you can do in the bedroom, whom you can marry, and make Christianity the state religion influencing government policy, our legal system and the science we teach in schools. This philosophy if taken to extremes can very easily become Fascism. Considering their intolerance of other people and their ideas, their suppression of votes, their hostility to science, their Orwellian manipulation of the language etc, it is conceivable that the leap to true Fascism would come to us in the hands of Conservatism.

I have a dozen links in my posts....none of which you have been able to dispute, confront, nor deny.


Nazis are as much of the Left as communists, socialists, Liberals, Fascists and Progressives.

As are you.

The explanation for your post is how deeply wounded you are by the truth.

And....more coming.

I don't quote or read your links simply because every single time they are disproved and are shown to be fallacies. You've have yet to win an argument here despite tons of trash that you fill your posts with. That's a fact and a very sad one indeed.

"I don't quote or read your links simply because every single time they are disproved and are shown to be fallacies."

1. They're never disproved.

2. You're lying: you read them, that's why you're here.
You simply have neither the knowledge nor ability to deal with them...and now,you've been shown to lack character as well.

Silly girl, every time you come here you go home with your tail between your legs. I'm surprised you stick around with the number of times you've been kicked to the curb.

Basically, she was doing the Trump before Donald did it.

No matter what overwhelming evidence you present to show that she is wrong, she just continues to claim she is right. Those that agree with her (nobody actually reads her posts) enable her the same way the crowd enables Trump.

She is the one who predicted a Romney victory--didn't happen. Civil war if Obama was re-elected. Not going to happen. Unemployment up around 15 percent if I recall. The list goes on and on. If you show her the posts...they are just ignored.

Lying About The Nuclear Deal | Page 2 | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

Watch.

 

[NYcarbineer]

2. The 'Greatest Lie" is the one that the modern Liberals tell. They claim that those called Liberals today are the liberals who founded this great nation. Nothing could be further from the truth. The Founders were 'classical liberals,' whose vision included . individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government. That's why they wrote out a detailed Constitution.

.

You post THAT lie over and over. The founders did not support free markets. They were protectionist.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Here, summarized, is PoliticalChic's style of argument:

Hitler was a Nazi. Hitler loved dogs.

FDR loved dogs.

Therefore, FDR was a Nazi.

 

[candycorn]

Here, summarized, is PoliticalChic's style of argument:

Hitler was a Nazi. Hitler loved dogs.

FDR loved dogs.

Therefore, FDR was a Nazi.

It always is....

I challenged her to put some totally unrelated song lyrics in the middle of one of her marathon OPs just once and see if any of her "followers" notice it. She's not brave enough to do it.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Here, summarized, is PoliticalChic's style of argument:

Hitler was a Nazi. Hitler loved dogs.

FDR loved dogs.

Therefore, FDR was a Nazi.

It always is....

I challenged her to put some totally unrelated song lyrics in the middle of one of her marathon OPs just once and see if any of her "followers" notice it. She's not brave enough to do it.

The perfect lyrics to sum up her 'reasoning', from Tori Amos...

"...By the way I don't believe you're leaving
Cause me and Charles Manson like the same ice cream..."

 

[gipper]

Socialism and democracy are irreconcilable.

Every socialist is a disguised dictator.

From the great Dr. Mises...

Some of us instinctively know these quotes are true. Others of us are not capable of recognizing truth.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Socialism and democracy are irreconcilable.

Every socialist is a disguised dictator.

From the great Dr. Mises...

Some of us instinctively know these quotes are true. Others of us are not capable of recognizing truth.

The quote is nonsense. Some people instinctively believe nonsense is the truth when it makes them feel good.