The Second Greatest Political Lie

[PoliticalChic]

In political parlance, a lie is not just something that is not true, but something that is untrue, but serves the purpose of advancing a political agenda.


1. Georges Eugène Sorel (2 November 1847 in Cherbourg – 29 August 1922 in Boulogne-sur-Seine) was a French philosopher and theorist of revolutionary syndicalism. His notion of the power of myth in people's lives inspired Marxists and Fascists, it is, together with his defense of violence, the contribution for which he is most often remembered. Georges Sorel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

a. His identification of the need for a deliberately-conceived "myth" to sway crowds into concerted action was put to use by the Fascist and Communist movements of the 1920s and after. http://homepage.newschool.edu/het//profiles/sorel.htm

b. "For Sen. [Hillary] Clinton, something is true if it validates the myth of her striving and her "greatness" (her overweening ambition in other words) and only ceases to be true when it no longer serves that limitless purpose. "
The case against Hillary Clinton. - By Christopher Hitchens - Slate Magazine]




2. The 'Greatest Lie" is the one that the modern Liberals tell. They claim that those called Liberals today are the liberals who founded this great nation. Nothing could be further from the truth. The Founders were 'classical liberals,' whose vision included . individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government. That's why they wrote out a detailed Constitution.

a. Communist John Dewey, the one who corrupted education in this country, convinced the Socialist Party to change its name to 'Liberal.' And it's values and doctrines formed those called Liberals today.


The benefit to them, of course, is that the uninformed attribute the greatness of the Founders, of America, to them.




3. The "Second Greatest Lie" is also designed to benefit Leftists. It is that the political spectrum has communists on the left, and the Nazis on the right. It is a conscious and carefully crafted lie. And it is because the Left controls the schools and the media that it has been allowed to survive.

This is what a careful study of history shows:
When the worldwide recession, known as the Great Depression, caused many to believe that capitalism had failed, big government command and control economies took control, promising solutions.

The economic plans of Mussolini, Adolph Hitler, Joseph Stalin and Franklin Roosevelt were all variations on the same theme.

a. Many government school grads have been trained to see FDR as a demigod.
"Comparisons of the New Deal with totalitarian ideologies were provided from all sides. A Republican senator described the NRA as having gone “too far in the Russian direction,” and a Democrat accused FDR of trying “to transplant Hitlerism to every corner of this country.” Wolfgang Schivelbusch, “Three New Deals,” p. 27.



This thread will expound on that "Second Greatest Lie."
By doing so, it will explain why Leftist government schools won't teach real history.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Pseudo-intellectualism.

Look it up.

 

[Pete7469]

In political parlance, a lie is not just something that is not true, but something that is untrue, but serves the purpose of advancing a political agenda.


1. Georges Eugène Sorel (2 November 1847 in Cherbourg – 29 August 1922 in Boulogne-sur-Seine) was a French philosopher and theorist of revolutionary syndicalism. His notion of the power of myth in people's lives inspired Marxists and Fascists, it is, together with his defense of violence, the contribution for which he is most often remembered. Georges Sorel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

a. His identification of the need for a deliberately-conceived "myth" to sway crowds into concerted action was put to use by the Fascist and Communist movements of the 1920s and after. http://homepage.newschool.edu/het//profiles/sorel.htm

b. "For Sen. [Hillary] Clinton, something is true if it validates the myth of her striving and her "greatness" (her overweening ambition in other words) and only ceases to be true when it no longer serves that limitless purpose. "
The case against Hillary Clinton. - By Christopher Hitchens - Slate Magazine]




2. The 'Greatest Lie" is the one that the modern Liberals tell. They claim that those called Liberals today are the liberals who founded this great nation. Nothing could be further from the truth. The Founders were 'classical liberals,' whose vision included . individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government. That's why they wrote out a detailed Constitution.

a. Communist John Dewey, the one who corrupted education in this country, convinced the Socialist Party to change its name to 'Liberal.' And it's values and doctrines formed those called Liberals today.


The benefit to them, of course, is that the uninformed attribute the greatness of the Founders, of America, to them.




3. The "Second Greatest Lie" is also designed to benefit Leftists. It is that the political spectrum has communists on the left, and the Nazis on the right. It is a conscious and carefully crafted lie. And it is because the Left controls the schools and the media that it has been allowed to survive.

This is what a careful study of history shows:
When the worldwide recession, known as the Great Depression, caused many to believe that capitalism had failed, big government command and control economies took control, promising solutions.

The economic plans of Mussolini, Adolph Hitler, Joseph Stalin and Franklin Roosevelt were all variations on the same theme.

a. Many government school grads have been trained to see FDR as a demigod.
"Comparisons of the New Deal with totalitarian ideologies were provided from all sides. A Republican senator described the NRA as having gone “too far in the Russian direction,” and a Democrat accused FDR of trying “to transplant Hitlerism to every corner of this country.” Wolfgang Schivelbusch, “Three New Deals,” p. 27.



This thread will expound on that "Second Greatest Lie."
By doing so, it will explain why Leftist government schools won't teach real history.

As usual Chick, you're right on the money, but you're preaching to the choir. Those of us on the board that know anything are aware of this. Leftwing philosophy is founded on a utopian fantasy, and built with dried up clumps of bullshit. That's why every time leftist despots acquire power they can never manage to create anything other than a dystopian hell of widespread poverty and oppression that ends in bloody conflict more often than not.

None of the bed wetters have the capacity to think. They won't read this and consider the possibility that they've been wrong. They're mindless zealots.

 

[Pete7469]

Pseudo-intellectualism.

Look it up.

Mindless zealots...

Case closed.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Pseudo-intellectualism.

Look it up.

So sorry to have misled you.
No doubt you saw the word "lie" in the title and thought it would be about you.

 

[eagle1462010]

The Moderate Repulicans, aka RINO's, are the JFK Liberals of yesterday............................

If you want to go back to before Wilson it was the Liberals of that time that fought against increased Tariffs of the Republicans for funding of the Gov't...............as until Wilson the major portion of funding was via Tariffs.............which happens to be another name for a Consumption tax..........................

Anyone who says we are the party to the same positions of well in the past has sniffed too much dang glue or used too much of their product........With the exception of the Libertarians...................who's foreign policy stinks...............

 

[NYcarbineer]

Pseudo-intellectualism.

Look it up.

Mindless zealots...

Case closed.

Do you want to take the position that the Nazis were liberals,

and debate that with me? Proceed.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Pseudo-intellectualism.

Look it up.

Mindless zealots...

Case closed.

Do you want to take the position that the Nazis were liberals,

and debate that with me? Proceed.

I will.

And I'll prove it.

Stay with the thread....if you dare.



Of course, defeating you has never proven much of a chore.....

 

[NYcarbineer]

Pseudo-intellectualism.

Look it up.

Mindless zealots...

Case closed.

Do you want to take the position that the Nazis were liberals,

and debate that with me? Proceed.

I will.

And I'll prove it.

Stay with the thread....if you dare.

Prove that Ronald Reagan, when he was an FDR Democrat, was a Nazi.

Prove that John F. Kennedy, a liberal Democrat, was a Nazi.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Pseudo-intellectualism.

Look it up.

Mindless zealots...

Case closed.

Do you want to take the position that the Nazis were liberals,

and debate that with me? Proceed.

I will.

And I'll prove it.

Stay with the thread....if you dare.



Of course, defeating you has never proven much of a chore.....

Prove that the policy of having a large strong military, is both a Nazi policy and a liberal policy,

and not a conservative policy.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Pseudo-intellectualism.

Look it up.

Mindless zealots...

Case closed.

Do you want to take the position that the Nazis were liberals,

and debate that with me? Proceed.

I will.

And I'll prove it.

Stay with the thread....if you dare.



Of course, defeating you has never proven much of a chore.....

Prove that being anti-gay rights, a Nazi policy, is also a liberal policy, and not a conservative policy.

 

[PoliticalChic]

This will be an orderly process....step by step.


4. First, let's identify the kinship of Mussolini, Hitler, Mussolini, and Roosevelt. You will never learn this in government school.

The Hitler's National Socialists claimed that they could have authored Roosevelt's programs:

a. May 11, 1933, the Nazi newspaper Volkischer Beobachter, (People’s Observer): “Roosevelt’s Dictatorial Recovery Measures.”And on January 17, 1934, “We, too, as German National Socialists are looking toward America…” and “Roosevelt’s adoption of National Socialist strains of thought in his economic and social policies” comparable to Hitler’s own dictatorial ‘Fuhrerprinzip.’

b. And “[Roosevelt], too demands that collective good be put before individual self-interest. Many passages in [FDR's] book ‘Looking Forward’ could have been written by a National Socialist….one can assume that he feels considerable affinity with the National Socialist philosophy.” The paper also refers to “…the fictional appearance of democracy.”



5. Mussolini wrote a book review of Roosevelt’s “Looking Forward,” in which he said “…[as] Roosevelt here calls his readers to battle, is reminiscent of the ways and means by which Fascism awakened the Italian people.” Popolo d’Italia, July 7, 1933.

a. In 1934, Mussolini wrote a review of “New Frontiers,” by FDR’s Sec’y of Agriculture, later Vice-President, Henry Wallace: “Wallace’s answer to what America wants is as follows: anything but a return tyo the free-market, i.e., anarchistic economy. Where is America headed? This book leaves no doubt that it is on the road to corporatism, the economic system of the current century.” Marco Sedda, Il politico, vol. 64, p. 263.


b. ".... Mussolini praised the New Deal as “boldly . . . interventionist in the field of economics,” and Roosevelt complimented Mussolini for his “honest purpose of restoring Italy” and acknowledged that he kept “in fairly close touch with that admirable Italian gentleman.” Also, Hugh Johnson, head of the National Recovery Administration, was known to carry a copy of Raffaello Viglione’s pro-Mussolini book,The Corporate State,with him, presented a copy to Labor Secretary Frances Perkins, and, on retirement, paid tribute to the Italian dictator." Fascism: The Concise Encyclopedia of Economics | Library of Economics and Liberty



A Republican senator described the NRA as having gone “too far in the Russian direction,” and a Democrat accused FDR of trying “to transplant Hitlerism to every corner of this country.”
Schivelbusch, “Three New Deals,” p. 27.

 

[tyroneweaver]

I once had a horse that was a sorel.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Pseudo-intellectualism.

Look it up.

Mindless zealots...

Case closed.

Do you want to take the position that the Nazis were liberals,

and debate that with me? Proceed.

I will.

And I'll prove it.

Stay with the thread....if you dare.



Of course, defeating you has never proven much of a chore.....

Prove that the policy of having a large strong military, is both a Nazi policy and a liberal policy,

and not a conservative policy.

Hmmmm......

...I sense a palpable fear on your part.


The outcome is well anticipated.
Good.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I once had a horse that was a sorel.

Did he teach you any tricks?

 

[NYcarbineer]

A Republican senator described the NRA as having gone “too far in the Russian direction,” and a Democrat accused FDR of trying “to transplant Hitlerism to every corner of this country.”
Schivelbusch, “Three New Deals,” p. 27.

Accusations are not arguments.

 

[tyroneweaver]

I once had a horse that was a sorel.

Did he teach you any tricks?

She always ran harder on the way back to the farm than away from it.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Pseudo-intellectualism.

Look it up.

Mindless zealots...

Case closed.

Do you want to take the position that the Nazis were liberals,

and debate that with me? Proceed.

I will.

And I'll prove it.

Stay with the thread....if you dare.



Of course, defeating you has never proven much of a chore.....

Prove that the policy of having a large strong military, is both a Nazi policy and a liberal policy,

and not a conservative policy.

Hmmmm......

...I sense a palpable fear on your part.


The outcome is well anticipated.
Good.

So you've given up already.

 

[NYcarbineer]

I once had a horse that was a sorel.

Did he teach you any tricks?

She always ran harder on the way back to the farm than away from it.

Are you talking about your horse now, or PoliticalChic?

 

[Arizona Willie]

In political parlance, a lie is not just something that is not true, but something that is untrue, but serves the purpose of advancing a political agenda.


1. Georges Eugène Sorel (2 November 1847 in Cherbourg – 29 August 1922 in Boulogne-sur-Seine) was a French philosopher and theorist of revolutionary syndicalism. His notion of the power of myth in people's lives inspired Marxists and Fascists, it is, together with his defense of violence, the contribution for which he is most often remembered. Georges Sorel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

a. His identification of the need for a deliberately-conceived "myth" to sway crowds into concerted action was put to use by the Fascist and Communist movements of the 1920s and after. http://homepage.newschool.edu/het//profiles/sorel.htm

b. "For Sen. [Hillary] Clinton, something is true if it validates the myth of her striving and her "greatness" (her overweening ambition in other words) and only ceases to be true when it no longer serves that limitless purpose. "
The case against Hillary Clinton. - By Christopher Hitchens - Slate Magazine]




2. The 'Greatest Lie" is the one that the modern Liberals tell. They claim that those called Liberals today are the liberals who founded this great nation. Nothing could be further from the truth. The Founders were 'classical liberals,' whose vision included . individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government. That's why they wrote out a detailed Constitution.

a. Communist John Dewey, the one who corrupted education in this country, convinced the Socialist Party to change its name to 'Liberal.' And it's values and doctrines formed those called Liberals today.


The benefit to them, of course, is that the uninformed attribute the greatness of the Founders, of America, to them.




3. The "Second Greatest Lie" is also designed to benefit Leftists. It is that the political spectrum has communists on the left, and the Nazis on the right. It is a conscious and carefully crafted lie. And it is because the Left controls the schools and the media that it has been allowed to survive.

This is what a careful study of history shows:
When the worldwide recession, known as the Great Depression, caused many to believe that capitalism had failed, big government command and control economies took control, promising solutions.

The economic plans of Mussolini, Adolph Hitler, Joseph Stalin and Franklin Roosevelt were all variations on the same theme.

a. Many government school grads have been trained to see FDR as a demigod.
"Comparisons of the New Deal with totalitarian ideologies were provided from all sides. A Republican senator described the NRA as having gone “too far in the Russian direction,” and a Democrat accused FDR of trying “to transplant Hitlerism to every corner of this country.” Wolfgang Schivelbusch, “Three New Deals,” p. 27.



This thread will expound on that "Second Greatest Lie."
By doing so, it will explain why Leftist government schools won't teach real history.

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The GREATEST LIE is the crap in your post.