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What's REALLY hilarious is that you believe that horseshit. And that you think you deserve anything but ridicule."All hail the Godking"
Nice touch of propaganda comrade.......which Alinsky method is that one Comrade Daveman?
I notice you are the only one posting propaganda on this thread.....The force of.Alinsky is strong within you comrade
Well done Comrade daveman..
As Alinsky would say......Rule 5: Ridicule is mans most potent weapon. Its hard to counterattack ridicule, and it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage.
You have learned well
He doesn't have to kiss your ass.It's far less complicated that that. Identity politics (belonging to a group) trumps self interest.
now STFU and stop trying to lecture people here. You need to earn your way here .. douchebagh.
No he doesn't, but like you he wants to.
Once again we have an argument supposing that republicans' economic theory is the same as democrats, but that they're either too stupid, too racist, or too socially uptight to do what's in their best interest. This argument is either ignorant or dishonest. Only you can say which.
It's far less complicated that that. Identity politics (belonging to a group) trumps self interest.
...is a question of morality in which we're, apparently, diametrically opposed.
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Sarajevo's 1984 Olympics: Sarajevo was famous for its diversity
Sarajevo 1992(?): then the propaganda started and a bloodbath ensued. People can easily be manipulated in actions against their best interests in support of group identity.
lesson over
Well okay, then. If it happened in Sarajevo, then that clearly proves that this is exactly what's going on with today's Republicans in America, because it's an inarguable fact that the Democrats are correct in their economic theory.
Gee your logic is tight.
Keynsian economics worked exceptionally well in Chile under Salvador Allende. The Chilean economy was ravaged in essentially the same manner as the U.S. economy has recently been ravaged, by precisely the same kind of Milton Friedman-style "supply side" policies imposed by the tyrant, Augusto Pinochet -- who assassinated Allende in a military coup.[...]
The use of Kenysian Economics a theory that has never worked any place in the world.
That is a deceptive distortion of the facts. Regulated wealth redistribution is neither communism nor purist socialism. It is a perfectly democratic form of achieving social balance and is every bit as Constitutional as is taxation with representation. Obama is doing things that FDR did to give rise to the middle class.His attempt to create Income Redistribution a tenant of Socialism/Communism is in this Country Unconstitutional.
Sarajevo's 1984 Olympics: Sarajevo was famous for its diversity
Sarajevo 1992(?): then the propaganda started and a bloodbath ensued. People can easily be manipulated in actions against their best interests in support of group identity.
lesson over
Well okay, then. If it happened in Sarajevo, then that clearly proves that this is exactly what's going on with today's Republicans in America, because it's an inarguable fact that the Democrats are correct in their economic theory.
Gee your logic is tight.
I have no idea what you mean here. A question of morality, economic theory?
What I was saying was that people aren't "too stupid, too racist, or too socially uptight to do what's in their best interest" --- people often do what is against their own self-interest because of identity/group politics
Well okay, then. If it happened in Sarajevo, then that clearly proves that this is exactly what's going on with today's Republicans in America, because it's an inarguable fact that the Democrats are correct in their economic theory.
Gee your logic is tight.
I have no idea what you mean here. A question of morality, economic theory?
What I was saying was that people aren't "too stupid, too racist, or too socially uptight to do what's in their best interest" --- people often do what is against their own self-interest because of identity/group politics
Yeah, the first time I replied I misinterpreted what you were getting at. I agree, identity politics factor in (on both sides of the isle, in fact). Politicians wouldn't use them if they didn't have some value.
My argument, which you were responding to, wasn't that there aren't any group politics in play on the Republican side.
1) My argument was that assuming that it was understood by all middle-class republicans that there were no logically self-interested reasons to vote for a republican in stead of a democrat, and it was purely identity politics pulling them in, 2) is willfully ignoring that not everyone agrees that the democrats are better for the middle class. 3) SOMETIMES identity politics trump self interest. Not universally.
And now Republicans are once again attacking Obama's religion and family. Sure, it has nothing to do with race.
Rev. says he wishes the right wing Christians would meet the "right" Christians.
I have no idea what you mean here. A question of morality, economic theory?
What I was saying was that people aren't "too stupid, too racist, or too socially uptight to do what's in their best interest" --- people often do what is against their own self-interest because of identity/group politics
Yeah, the first time I replied I misinterpreted what you were getting at. I agree, identity politics factor in (on both sides of the isle, in fact). Politicians wouldn't use them if they didn't have some value.
My argument, which you were responding to, wasn't that there aren't any group politics in play on the Republican side.
1) My argument was that assuming that it was understood by all middle-class republicans that there were no logically self-interested reasons to vote for a republican in stead of a democrat, and it was purely identity politics pulling them in, 2) is willfully ignoring that not everyone agrees that the democrats are better for the middle class. 3) SOMETIMES identity politics trump self interest. Not universally.
One inescapable observation is that many middle-class Republicans will ignore the appeals of Democrats when they propose things that are better for middle-class self interests, when the arguments get framed in ways that pit identity (belonging to a group) against self-interests.
During campaigns, dentity politics often trumps self-interests, and that is interesting to watch unfold.
And now Republicans are once again attacking Obama's religion and family. Sure, it has nothing to do with race.
Rev. says he wishes the right wing Christians would meet the "right" Christians.
rderp drools again. A COUPLE of Republicans express their religious views and rderp immediately jumps to the conclusion that ALL Republicans are on the "attack."
He can't be so stupid as to really believe his own obvious bullshit. Ergo, he has to be just a liar.
Or a lair.
And the Rev. Wright is a scumbag, so whatever he says is of no consequence.
Also -- and finally -- get the sand out of your vagina, rderp. Yes. Gov. Christie is fat.
And now Republicans are once again attacking Obama's religion and family. Sure, it has nothing to do with race.
Rev. says he wishes the right wing Christians would meet the "right" Christians.
rderp drools again. A COUPLE of Republicans express their religious views and rderp immediately jumps to the conclusion that ALL Republicans are on the "attack."
He can't be so stupid as to really believe his own obvious bullshit. Ergo, he has to be just a liar.
Or a lair.
And the Rev. Wright is a scumbag, so whatever he says is of no consequence.
Also -- and finally -- get the sand out of your vagina, rderp. Yes. Gov. Christie is fat.
No, not ALL Republicans. But there is a Christian fundamentalist base where those are the right buttons to push. "we are the true Americans". Any republican can't go wrong by playing that card
And now Republicans are once again attacking Obama's religion and family. Sure, it has nothing to do with race.
Rev. says he wishes the right wing Christians would meet the "right" Christians.
rderp drools again. A COUPLE of Republicans express their religious views and rderp immediately jumps to the conclusion that ALL Republicans are on the "attack."
He can't be so stupid as to really believe his own obvious bullshit. Ergo, he has to be just a liar.
Or a lair.
And the Rev. Wright is a scumbag, so whatever he says is of no consequence.
Also -- and finally -- get the sand out of your vagina, rderp. Yes. Gov. Christie is fat.
No, not ALL Republicans. But there is a Christian fundamentalist base where those are the right buttons to push. "we are the true Americans". Any republican can't go wrong by playing that card
he isnt?.....what State was he a part of then?.....Nagin was Mayor of the city of New Orleans. He was not part of the government of the state of Louisiana.
"Line of the day from WAPO's Dana Milbank: 'The chimichanga? It may be the only thing Republicans have left to offer Latinos,' -- Obama Campaign Manager
Absolutely wrong.
Republicans have nothing to offer Latinos. Well except for harrassment by local law enforcement for having nice tans and sexy accents. But other then that? Nadda.
in California if there is a Major Quake....we are told you may be on your own for maybe 2-3 days with the local responders......the State may show up in 3-4 Days the feds 5-6....Nagin was Mayor of the city of New Orleans. He was not part of the government of the state of Louisiana.
oh brother.
That's correct. Nagin was a Municipal official.
In any case..I pretty much think Louisiana contributes to federal coffers like every other state. It's not unreasonable to expect some federal help from time to time after a disaster.
No?
