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I like your way of thinking. Anyone who disagrees with you is dishonest and anyone who agrees with you is honest. People like you were saying the same thing when Columbus said he would sail the world. If the science is not with you then the scientists are the crooks and you are not.
The fact is that there is no scientific evidence as to when a life officially begins. A fetal heartbeat is evidence of nothing. There is no evidence it is murder. This is based on theology not science. People like you want to create a theology just like the mullahs have in Iran. The US is not a country where Christianity and the Bible determines the law.
The fact is that abortions are not taken lightly by a woman. Asking people to tell their stories is not bragging about abortions. It is worth noting that the number of abortions have tumbled even though abortion has been legal.
The issues surrounding abortion are scientific.. It is people like you who make the issue political because you cannot prove that it is not a life. Yet you use the power of the state to force your religious beliefs on others.
A zygote is not a person. A woman has the right to have a say to the decision.
1. "I like your way of thinking. Anyone who disagrees with you is dishonest and anyone who agrees with you is honest."
Pretty much....You're on the right track.
After all, I am never wrong.
2. "If the science is not with you then the scientists are the crooks and you are not."
Science is 'with me.'
“The formation, maturation and meeting of a male and female sex cell are all preliminary to their actual union into a combined cell, or zygote, which definitely marks the beginning of a new individual. The penetration of the ovum by the spermatozoon, and the coming together and pooling of their respective nuclei, constitutes the process of fertilization.”
Ronan O’Rahilly and Fabiola Miller, Human Embryology and Teratology, 3rd edition. New York: Wiley-Liss, 2001. p. 8.
“Although life is a continuous process, fertilization… is a critical landmark because, under ordinary circumstances, a new genetically distinct human organism is formed when the chromosomes of the male and female pronuclei blend in the oocyte.”
“[All] organisms, however large and complex they might be as full grown, begin life as a single cell. This is true for the human being, for instance, who begins life as a fertilized ovum.”
"After fertilization has taken place a new human being has come into being...[this] is no longer a matter of taste or opinion, it is not a metaphysical contention, it is plain experimental evidence...." - Dr Jerome LeJeune, Professor of Genetics at the University of Descartes, Paris, discoverer of the chromosome pattern of Down's Syndrome, and Nobel Prize Winner
"An individual human life begins at conception when a sperm cell from the father fuses with an egg cell from the mother, to form a new cell, the zygote, the first embryonic stage. The zygote grows and divides into two daughter cells, each of which grows and divides into two grand-daughter cells, and this cell growth/division process continues on, over and over again. The zygote is the start of a biological continuum that automatically grows and develops, passing gradually and sequentially through the stages we call foetus, baby, child, adult, old person and ending eventually in death. The full genetic instructions to guide the development of the continuum, in interaction with its environment, are present in the zygote. Every stage along the continuum is biologically human and each point along the continuum has the full human properties appropriate to that point." - Dr. William Reville, University College Cork, Ireland
See what I've taught you today?
3. "The fact is that there is no scientific evidence as to when a life officially begins."
Au contraire.
Shettles, Landrum, M.D., Rorvik, David, Rites of Life: The Scientific Evidence for Life Before Birth, page 36, Zondervan Publishing House, Grand Rapids, Michigan, 1983
“… Conception confers life and makes you one of a kind. Unless you have an identical twin, there is virtually no chance, in the natural course of things, that there will be “another you” – not even if mankind were to persist for billions of years.”
Dr. Jasper Williams, Former President of the National Medical Association (p 74)
4. "A fetal heartbeat is evidence of nothing."
Sometimes I can't believe dolts write stuff like this.
Does your heartbeat prove something? What?
“Times are changing in this country,” Hill said. “We can see more of what’s happening in the womb… We can see that heart beating with those tests and I’ve had those tests and they’re not so bad.”
Hill talked about how happy she was when she heard the fetal heartbeat of her own children.
“I see in this country that we protect sea turtle eggs and we protect other endangered species of animals with a greater degree of scrutiny and zealousness than we protect a child in the womb that has a beating heart,” Hill said. “The womb should be the safest place in the world for an unborn child. I’m asking Mississippi to be different.”
… T]he heart is pumping the embryo’s own blood to his or her brain and body.16 All four chambers of the heart are present17 and more than 1 million heartbeats have occurred.18 The head, as well as the chest and abdominal cavities have formed19and the beginnings of the arms and legs are easily seen.20“
This child, shown in the video below, is just seven weeks and three days old.
7 Weeks Pregnant -- Hiccups & Startle Response
Mississippi Legislature passes bills banning abortion after detectable heartbeat
5. "This is based on theology not science. People like you want to create a theology just like the mullahs have in Iran."
My argument is political not theological.
Are you an American?
Let's check:
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.” Thomas Jefferson.
That is a basic and fundamental American view.
Your side:
"We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life." Leon Trotsky
Our nation was founded on the premise that each individual has the unalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. But they don’t become rights by virtue of birth…we are endowed with these rights by our Creator, at the moment of creation.
This is a political argument: the form of the Creator invoked by the Founders is irrelevant to the debate. Morality is not a consideration here, so there is no mention of contraception as being right or wrong; one’s use of contraceptives does not infringe on anyone else’s rights.
The fact is that our nation, at its very founding, acknowledged that, by virtue of being created, of being conceived, the unborn child, has a right to live. It is not a right that is alienable….even by the child’s mother.
6. "The fact is that abortions are not taken lightly by a woman."
Wrong.
Nearly every abortion is for nothing more than convenience.
The vast majority of abortion performed in the United States are carried out for reasons that can be broadly categorized as “matters of convenience.”
Nearly every abortion is based on convenience.....Convenience, as in having your groceries delivered rather than having to walk across the street to pick them up.....this level of consideration in deciding to execute the child you've created.
In a study of 27 nations, reasons for abortion services were found to be the following:
a. “Worldwide, the most commonly reported reason women cite for having an abortion is to postpone or stop childbearing. The second most common reason—socioeconomic concerns—includes disruption of education or employment; lack of support from the father; desire to provide schooling for existing children; and poverty, unemployment or inability to afford additional children. In addition, relationship problems with a husband or partner and a woman's perception that she is too young constitute other important categories of reasons.” Reasons Why Women Have Induced Abortions: Evidence from 27 Countries
b. A 2004 study of American women yielded similar results: “The reasons most frequently cited were that having a child would interfere with a woman’s education, work or ability to care for dependents (74%); that she could not afford a baby now (73%); and that she did not want to be a single mother or was having relationship problems (48%). Nearly four in 10 women said they had completed their childbearing, and almost one-third were not ready to have a child. Fewer than 1% said their parents’ or partners’ desire for them to have an abortion was the most important reason. Younger women often reported that they were unprepared for the transition to motherhood, while older women regularly cited their responsibility to dependents.”
http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/psrh/full/3711005.pdf
["A study published in Guttmacher's International Family Planning Perspectives in 1998 said risk to a woman's health was the main reason for 2.8% of U.S. abortions in 1987-88."]
c. We must reject the view that inconvenience of a mother’s informed choice outweighs the unalienable right to life of the child she bears by virtue of that choice.
7. "A zygote is not a person."
Actually, it is. It is a human being from the instant the two strands of DNA unite.
I believe I just aborted your entire post.
Hope you learned something.
1. You are never right about anything. You are a fascist pig and nothing more.
She's usually right. You're just an ignorant partisan fanatic who wouldn't recognize facts if they crawled up your muu-muu and bit you on the ass.
2. The fact is a human being can exist outside of the womb. Since this entity cannot then it cannot be classified as a human being.
The fact is, you're defining "human being" and "fact" according to your own high school-dropout perceptions and biases, and then trying to tell the rest of the world that's it's "science" that the sun goes around the Earth because your primitive ass sees it that way. Your 10th-century village called and wants its idiot back.
3. Au contraire. There are scientists on both sides of the issue. There is no scientific consensus on this issue.
There is very much a scientific consensus on the biological facts. What there isn't is a scientific consensus on whether or not to behaving morally about those facts, or to profit off the ignorance of fools like you. Or did you really think that doctors and scientists are incapable of being greedy, soulless, and dishonest?
4. The trouble is a person can exist outside of a woman's womb. A heartbeat alone does not denote life.
The trouble is you are again demanding that everyone else accept your appalling lack of modern education as fact. While a heartbeat is not the only sign of life, it DOES always signify life when present.
5. Cite the evidence that Jefferson was talking about abortion. Jefferson was talking about a smaller government. Pigs like you refuse to accept that anyone can disagree with them without smearing them. You have more in common with the mullahs in Iran. You want to use the power of the state to enforce your religious beliefs. That is something the founding fathers rejected.
Cite the point where anyone said he WAS talking about abortion.
If you have a problem with being called out for being heinously amoral, either stop doing it, or butch up. You're in the wrong place and the wrong debate if you expect anyone to care about your hurt feelings, your criticisms, or your hypocritical demands for respect which you have no intention of returning.
And YOU are the only one mentioning religion, which tells me that you aren't capable of formulating any kind of coherent argument for your point beyond screeching, "You CHRISTIAN, you!" as though someone's supposed to be ashamed and offended by that word because gutter scum like you doesn't approve of it.
6. That is typical far right wing views. A poll tells you nothing about a woman's feelings on the situation. What you cite as convenience can be far more than that. If a woman feels she is not ready, that does not mean that she is happy about it.
Yeah, well, you leftist pro-abort dimwits stop citing polls to try to shore up YOUR arguments, and then we'll talk.
7. It is not a human being. It is a zygote. You are projecting your religious beliefs.
You have aborted nothing. I agree with the majority of voters in this country. Abortion should be available in the first and second trimesters. Abortions have gone down over the years because women have decided against abortion. We should focus on convincing women not to have abortions and not using the power of the state to make it illegal.
"It's not a human being, it's some scientific word I don't know the meaning of because I'm an illiterate dipshit, but I'm SURE it means 'not human' because IT'S A DIFFERENT WORD!"
You are projecting your lack of argument. "Well, well, well . . . RELIGIOUS! The only reason to dislike abortion is RELIGION, because the people who tell me what to think said so!"
You apparently aborted your brain. I would be embarrassed to talk in front of people if I were as pig-stupid about basic human anatomy as you are . . . but then, embarrassment requires a sense of shame, which we all know leftists lack.
What would we do for entertainment without piñatas like that one?
I doubt we'll ever find out, since rampant stupidity appears to be an epidemic which will never be cured.
2020 CANDIDATE Kirsten Gillibrand compared pro-life beliefs to racism and suggested the pro-life viewpoint is "not acceptable" during an interview with the Des Moines Register
You remain further to the Left than the salad fork.
1. "I like your way of thinking. Anyone who disagrees with you is dishonest and anyone who agrees with you is honest."
Pretty much....You're on the right track.
After all, I am never wrong.
2. "If the science is not with you then the scientists are the crooks and you are not."
Science is 'with me.'
“The formation, maturation and meeting of a male and female sex cell are all preliminary to their actual union into a combined cell, or zygote, which definitely marks the beginning of a new individual. The penetration of the ovum by the spermatozoon, and the coming together and pooling of their respective nuclei, constitutes the process of fertilization.”
Ronan O’Rahilly and Fabiola Miller, Human Embryology and Teratology, 3rd edition. New York: Wiley-Liss, 2001. p. 8.
“Although life is a continuous process, fertilization… is a critical landmark because, under ordinary circumstances, a new genetically distinct human organism is formed when the chromosomes of the male and female pronuclei blend in the oocyte.”
“[All] organisms, however large and complex they might be as full grown, begin life as a single cell. This is true for the human being, for instance, who begins life as a fertilized ovum.”
"After fertilization has taken place a new human being has come into being...[this] is no longer a matter of taste or opinion, it is not a metaphysical contention, it is plain experimental evidence...." - Dr Jerome LeJeune, Professor of Genetics at the University of Descartes, Paris, discoverer of the chromosome pattern of Down's Syndrome, and Nobel Prize Winner
"An individual human life begins at conception when a sperm cell from the father fuses with an egg cell from the mother, to form a new cell, the zygote, the first embryonic stage. The zygote grows and divides into two daughter cells, each of which grows and divides into two grand-daughter cells, and this cell growth/division process continues on, over and over again. The zygote is the start of a biological continuum that automatically grows and develops, passing gradually and sequentially through the stages we call foetus, baby, child, adult, old person and ending eventually in death. The full genetic instructions to guide the development of the continuum, in interaction with its environment, are present in the zygote. Every stage along the continuum is biologically human and each point along the continuum has the full human properties appropriate to that point." - Dr. William Reville, University College Cork, Ireland
See what I've taught you today?
3. "The fact is that there is no scientific evidence as to when a life officially begins."
Au contraire.
Shettles, Landrum, M.D., Rorvik, David, Rites of Life: The Scientific Evidence for Life Before Birth, page 36, Zondervan Publishing House, Grand Rapids, Michigan, 1983
“… Conception confers life and makes you one of a kind. Unless you have an identical twin, there is virtually no chance, in the natural course of things, that there will be “another you” – not even if mankind were to persist for billions of years.”
Dr. Jasper Williams, Former President of the National Medical Association (p 74)
4. "A fetal heartbeat is evidence of nothing."
Sometimes I can't believe dolts write stuff like this.
Does your heartbeat prove something? What?
“Times are changing in this country,” Hill said. “We can see more of what’s happening in the womb… We can see that heart beating with those tests and I’ve had those tests and they’re not so bad.”
Hill talked about how happy she was when she heard the fetal heartbeat of her own children.
“I see in this country that we protect sea turtle eggs and we protect other endangered species of animals with a greater degree of scrutiny and zealousness than we protect a child in the womb that has a beating heart,” Hill said. “The womb should be the safest place in the world for an unborn child. I’m asking Mississippi to be different.”
… T]he heart is pumping the embryo’s own blood to his or her brain and body.16 All four chambers of the heart are present17 and more than 1 million heartbeats have occurred.18 The head, as well as the chest and abdominal cavities have formed19and the beginnings of the arms and legs are easily seen.20“
This child, shown in the video below, is just seven weeks and three days old.
7 Weeks Pregnant -- Hiccups & Startle Response
Mississippi Legislature passes bills banning abortion after detectable heartbeat
5. "This is based on theology not science. People like you want to create a theology just like the mullahs have in Iran."
My argument is political not theological.
Are you an American?
Let's check:
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.” Thomas Jefferson.
That is a basic and fundamental American view.
Your side:
"We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life." Leon Trotsky
Our nation was founded on the premise that each individual has the unalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. But they don’t become rights by virtue of birth…we are endowed with these rights by our Creator, at the moment of creation.
This is a political argument: the form of the Creator invoked by the Founders is irrelevant to the debate. Morality is not a consideration here, so there is no mention of contraception as being right or wrong; one’s use of contraceptives does not infringe on anyone else’s rights.
The fact is that our nation, at its very founding, acknowledged that, by virtue of being created, of being conceived, the unborn child, has a right to live. It is not a right that is alienable….even by the child’s mother.
6. "The fact is that abortions are not taken lightly by a woman."
Wrong.
Nearly every abortion is for nothing more than convenience.
The vast majority of abortion performed in the United States are carried out for reasons that can be broadly categorized as “matters of convenience.”
Nearly every abortion is based on convenience.....Convenience, as in having your groceries delivered rather than having to walk across the street to pick them up.....this level of consideration in deciding to execute the child you've created.
In a study of 27 nations, reasons for abortion services were found to be the following:
a. “Worldwide, the most commonly reported reason women cite for having an abortion is to postpone or stop childbearing. The second most common reason—socioeconomic concerns—includes disruption of education or employment; lack of support from the father; desire to provide schooling for existing children; and poverty, unemployment or inability to afford additional children. In addition, relationship problems with a husband or partner and a woman's perception that she is too young constitute other important categories of reasons.” Reasons Why Women Have Induced Abortions: Evidence from 27 Countries
b. A 2004 study of American women yielded similar results: “The reasons most frequently cited were that having a child would interfere with a woman’s education, work or ability to care for dependents (74%); that she could not afford a baby now (73%); and that she did not want to be a single mother or was having relationship problems (48%). Nearly four in 10 women said they had completed their childbearing, and almost one-third were not ready to have a child. Fewer than 1% said their parents’ or partners’ desire for them to have an abortion was the most important reason. Younger women often reported that they were unprepared for the transition to motherhood, while older women regularly cited their responsibility to dependents.”
http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/psrh/full/3711005.pdf
["A study published in Guttmacher's International Family Planning Perspectives in 1998 said risk to a woman's health was the main reason for 2.8% of U.S. abortions in 1987-88."]
c. We must reject the view that inconvenience of a mother’s informed choice outweighs the unalienable right to life of the child she bears by virtue of that choice.
7. "A zygote is not a person."
Actually, it is. It is a human being from the instant the two strands of DNA unite.
I believe I just aborted your entire post.
Hope you learned something.
1. You are never right about anything. You are a fascist pig and nothing more.
She's usually right. You're just an ignorant partisan fanatic who wouldn't recognize facts if they crawled up your muu-muu and bit you on the ass.
2. The fact is a human being can exist outside of the womb. Since this entity cannot then it cannot be classified as a human being.
The fact is, you're defining "human being" and "fact" according to your own high school-dropout perceptions and biases, and then trying to tell the rest of the world that's it's "science" that the sun goes around the Earth because your primitive ass sees it that way. Your 10th-century village called and wants its idiot back.
3. Au contraire. There are scientists on both sides of the issue. There is no scientific consensus on this issue.
There is very much a scientific consensus on the biological facts. What there isn't is a scientific consensus on whether or not to behaving morally about those facts, or to profit off the ignorance of fools like you. Or did you really think that doctors and scientists are incapable of being greedy, soulless, and dishonest?
4. The trouble is a person can exist outside of a woman's womb. A heartbeat alone does not denote life.
The trouble is you are again demanding that everyone else accept your appalling lack of modern education as fact. While a heartbeat is not the only sign of life, it DOES always signify life when present.
5. Cite the evidence that Jefferson was talking about abortion. Jefferson was talking about a smaller government. Pigs like you refuse to accept that anyone can disagree with them without smearing them. You have more in common with the mullahs in Iran. You want to use the power of the state to enforce your religious beliefs. That is something the founding fathers rejected.
Cite the point where anyone said he WAS talking about abortion.
If you have a problem with being called out for being heinously amoral, either stop doing it, or butch up. You're in the wrong place and the wrong debate if you expect anyone to care about your hurt feelings, your criticisms, or your hypocritical demands for respect which you have no intention of returning.
And YOU are the only one mentioning religion, which tells me that you aren't capable of formulating any kind of coherent argument for your point beyond screeching, "You CHRISTIAN, you!" as though someone's supposed to be ashamed and offended by that word because gutter scum like you doesn't approve of it.
6. That is typical far right wing views. A poll tells you nothing about a woman's feelings on the situation. What you cite as convenience can be far more than that. If a woman feels she is not ready, that does not mean that she is happy about it.
Yeah, well, you leftist pro-abort dimwits stop citing polls to try to shore up YOUR arguments, and then we'll talk.
7. It is not a human being. It is a zygote. You are projecting your religious beliefs.
You have aborted nothing. I agree with the majority of voters in this country. Abortion should be available in the first and second trimesters. Abortions have gone down over the years because women have decided against abortion. We should focus on convincing women not to have abortions and not using the power of the state to make it illegal.
"It's not a human being, it's some scientific word I don't know the meaning of because I'm an illiterate dipshit, but I'm SURE it means 'not human' because IT'S A DIFFERENT WORD!"
You are projecting your lack of argument. "Well, well, well . . . RELIGIOUS! The only reason to dislike abortion is RELIGION, because the people who tell me what to think said so!"
You apparently aborted your brain. I would be embarrassed to talk in front of people if I were as pig-stupid about basic human anatomy as you are . . . but then, embarrassment requires a sense of shame, which we all know leftists lack.
What would we do for entertainment without piñatas like that one?
I doubt we'll ever find out, since rampant stupidity appears to be an epidemic which will never be cured.
As I suggested.....this is a plus for us: skeet shooting took so much more time and effort.....
You remain further to the Left than the salad fork.
Prove it. You won't. Because you can't. You don't know your left from your right.
1. You are never right about anything. You are a fascist pig and nothing more.
She's usually right. You're just an ignorant partisan fanatic who wouldn't recognize facts if they crawled up your muu-muu and bit you on the ass.
2. The fact is a human being can exist outside of the womb. Since this entity cannot then it cannot be classified as a human being.
The fact is, you're defining "human being" and "fact" according to your own high school-dropout perceptions and biases, and then trying to tell the rest of the world that's it's "science" that the sun goes around the Earth because your primitive ass sees it that way. Your 10th-century village called and wants its idiot back.
3. Au contraire. There are scientists on both sides of the issue. There is no scientific consensus on this issue.
There is very much a scientific consensus on the biological facts. What there isn't is a scientific consensus on whether or not to behaving morally about those facts, or to profit off the ignorance of fools like you. Or did you really think that doctors and scientists are incapable of being greedy, soulless, and dishonest?
4. The trouble is a person can exist outside of a woman's womb. A heartbeat alone does not denote life.
The trouble is you are again demanding that everyone else accept your appalling lack of modern education as fact. While a heartbeat is not the only sign of life, it DOES always signify life when present.
5. Cite the evidence that Jefferson was talking about abortion. Jefferson was talking about a smaller government. Pigs like you refuse to accept that anyone can disagree with them without smearing them. You have more in common with the mullahs in Iran. You want to use the power of the state to enforce your religious beliefs. That is something the founding fathers rejected.
Cite the point where anyone said he WAS talking about abortion.
If you have a problem with being called out for being heinously amoral, either stop doing it, or butch up. You're in the wrong place and the wrong debate if you expect anyone to care about your hurt feelings, your criticisms, or your hypocritical demands for respect which you have no intention of returning.
And YOU are the only one mentioning religion, which tells me that you aren't capable of formulating any kind of coherent argument for your point beyond screeching, "You CHRISTIAN, you!" as though someone's supposed to be ashamed and offended by that word because gutter scum like you doesn't approve of it.
6. That is typical far right wing views. A poll tells you nothing about a woman's feelings on the situation. What you cite as convenience can be far more than that. If a woman feels she is not ready, that does not mean that she is happy about it.
Yeah, well, you leftist pro-abort dimwits stop citing polls to try to shore up YOUR arguments, and then we'll talk.
7. It is not a human being. It is a zygote. You are projecting your religious beliefs.
You have aborted nothing. I agree with the majority of voters in this country. Abortion should be available in the first and second trimesters. Abortions have gone down over the years because women have decided against abortion. We should focus on convincing women not to have abortions and not using the power of the state to make it illegal.
"It's not a human being, it's some scientific word I don't know the meaning of because I'm an illiterate dipshit, but I'm SURE it means 'not human' because IT'S A DIFFERENT WORD!"
You are projecting your lack of argument. "Well, well, well . . . RELIGIOUS! The only reason to dislike abortion is RELIGION, because the people who tell me what to think said so!"
You apparently aborted your brain. I would be embarrassed to talk in front of people if I were as pig-stupid about basic human anatomy as you are . . . but then, embarrassment requires a sense of shame, which we all know leftists lack.
What would we do for entertainment without piñatas like that one?
I doubt we'll ever find out, since rampant stupidity appears to be an epidemic which will never be cured.
As I suggested.....this is a plus for us: skeet shooting took so much more time and effort.....
I suppose, but one does occasionally wish for a challenge, something never provided by leftists.
She's usually right. You're just an ignorant partisan fanatic who wouldn't recognize facts if they crawled up your muu-muu and bit you on the ass.
The fact is, you're defining "human being" and "fact" according to your own high school-dropout perceptions and biases, and then trying to tell the rest of the world that's it's "science" that the sun goes around the Earth because your primitive ass sees it that way. Your 10th-century village called and wants its idiot back.
There is very much a scientific consensus on the biological facts. What there isn't is a scientific consensus on whether or not to behaving morally about those facts, or to profit off the ignorance of fools like you. Or did you really think that doctors and scientists are incapable of being greedy, soulless, and dishonest?
The trouble is you are again demanding that everyone else accept your appalling lack of modern education as fact. While a heartbeat is not the only sign of life, it DOES always signify life when present.
Cite the point where anyone said he WAS talking about abortion.
If you have a problem with being called out for being heinously amoral, either stop doing it, or butch up. You're in the wrong place and the wrong debate if you expect anyone to care about your hurt feelings, your criticisms, or your hypocritical demands for respect which you have no intention of returning.
And YOU are the only one mentioning religion, which tells me that you aren't capable of formulating any kind of coherent argument for your point beyond screeching, "You CHRISTIAN, you!" as though someone's supposed to be ashamed and offended by that word because gutter scum like you doesn't approve of it.
Yeah, well, you leftist pro-abort dimwits stop citing polls to try to shore up YOUR arguments, and then we'll talk.
"It's not a human being, it's some scientific word I don't know the meaning of because I'm an illiterate dipshit, but I'm SURE it means 'not human' because IT'S A DIFFERENT WORD!"
You are projecting your lack of argument. "Well, well, well . . . RELIGIOUS! The only reason to dislike abortion is RELIGION, because the people who tell me what to think said so!"
You apparently aborted your brain. I would be embarrassed to talk in front of people if I were as pig-stupid about basic human anatomy as you are . . . but then, embarrassment requires a sense of shame, which we all know leftists lack.
What would we do for entertainment without piñatas like that one?
I doubt we'll ever find out, since rampant stupidity appears to be an epidemic which will never be cured.
As I suggested.....this is a plus for us: skeet shooting took so much more time and effort.....
I suppose, but one does occasionally wish for a challenge, something never provided by leftists.
That must be what Christmas is for.
"One can have an opinion but is that enough to terminate a life that will enter the world after nine months? Christians and others say no. Secularists say no problem (aborting a fetus).
Doctors in America are apparently siding with the life movement. According to the Guttmacher Institute, which studies abortion in the USA, only seven percent of Obstetricians and Gynecologists will perform abortions.
However, you will not hear that statistic much from the American media which has succeeded in framing the abortion-life debate as good versus evil. But, incredibly, the evil is on the pro-life side.
In New York, where there once were limits on abortion, now there are none.
A humane society should be able to limit abortion while protecting mothers in dangerous circumstances. Abortion should not be a political issue, used to demonize. Yes, American women have rights. But so, too, do developing cells that will shortly become human beings."
Bill O'Reilly: Bill's Weekly Column - Life as We Know It
So that's a reason to kill it?Yet the child can't survive out of the womb until labor is triggered and then the child has to be taken care of to survive. You people are trying to claim there is no need for support during development..
That's why I'm here.
That's why I'm here.
It would seem thay you're here to throw around empty insults and baseless accusations. The reason you're having such a hard time finding "leftist" posts from me is that they don't exist. In point of fact, I argue against leftist positions more consistently, and more persuasively, than you ever could. I'm sorry. Given your inability to tell left from right, that must gnaw at you.
It would seem thay you're here to throw around empty insults and baseless accusations. The reason you're having such a hard time finding "leftist" posts from me is that they don't exist. In point of fact, I argue against leftist positions more consistently, and more persuasively, than you ever could. I'm sorry. Given your inability to tell left from right, that must gnaw at you.That's why I'm here.
Wow....exposing you for what you are really hurt, huh?
Excellent.
2020 CANDIDATE Kirsten Gillibrand compared pro-life beliefs to racism and suggested the pro-life viewpoint is "not acceptable" during an interview with the Des Moines Register
And, as we have learned in recent weeks, Democrat controlled legislative bodies have determined that not only is said murder a ‘right,’ but should the baby actually be born, it can be set aside and be allowed, if they so consider, to pass away.
You know this is not true, even Republicans take life support off of an infant. When a fetus in born, there is not an abortion, and murdering an infant is against the law in the US.
A human fetus is a human being.
That is a religious belief not a scientific fact.
THAT is a talking point, not a reality.
You know this is not true, even Republicans take life support off of an infant. When a fetus in born, there is not an abortion, and murdering an infant is against the law in the US.
A human fetus is a human being.
That is a religious belief not a scientific fact.
That is scientific fact. I'll not argue with your delusional absurdity and stupidity.
It is not a life as it cannot survive outside of the womb. That is a scientific fact.
Really? Please cite the scientific source for this "fact".
You know this is not true, even Republicans take life support off of an infant. When a fetus in born, there is not an abortion, and murdering an infant is against the law in the US.
A human fetus is a human being.
That is a religious belief not a scientific fact.
That is scientific fact. I'll not argue with your delusional absurdity and stupidity.
It is not a life as it cannot survive outside of the womb. That is a scientific fact.You know this is not true, even Republicans take life support off of an infant. When a fetus in born, there is not an abortion, and murdering an infant is against the law in the US.
A human fetus is a human being.
That is a religious belief not a scientific fact.
That is scientific fact. I'll not argue with your delusional absurdity and stupidity.
It is not a life as it cannot survive outside of the womb. That is a scientific fact.
I've got truth so its easy to debunk your lies. If you were taken off this planet and placed on uranus, you wouldn't survive.......but you're still life.
And, as we have learned in recent weeks, Democrat controlled legislative bodies have determined that not only is said murder a ‘right,’ but should the baby actually be born, it can be set aside and be allowed, if they so consider, to pass away.
You know this is not true, even Republicans take life support off of an infant. When a fetus in born, there is not an abortion, and murdering an infant is against the law in the US.
"...there is not an abortion, and murdering an infant is against the law in the US."
"Alabama State Rep. John Rogers (D) on abortion: “Some kids are unwanted, so you kill them now or you kill them later. You bring them in the world unwanted, unloved, you send them to the electric chair. So, you kill them now or you kill them later” pic.twitter.com/dxPg6X759h
— Ryan Saavedra (@RealSaavedra) May 1, 2019
"This is stomach curling and makes Ralph Northam look like a moderate on abortion," Trump Jr tweeted in response. "Every Democrat running for President needs to be asked where they stand on this. The extreme turn we've seen from Dems on abortion recently is truly sickening."
WATCH: Democrat says, Donald Trump Jr's "mother should have aborted him... because he's retarded" · Caldron Pool
So a politician made a really dumb remark. A dumb remark doesn't make it the law.
It would seem thay you're here to throw around empty insults and baseless accusations. The reason you're having such a hard time finding "leftist" posts from me is that they don't exist. In point of fact, I argue against leftist positions more consistently, and more persuasively, than you ever could. I'm sorry. Given your inability to tell left from right, that must gnaw at you.That's why I'm here.
Wow....exposing you for what you are really hurt, huh?
Excellent.
Being accused of being something I'm not isn't much fun, but your silly nonsense doesn't hurt. I do think tools like you are really dangerous to our society though, so I'm happy to point out how bankrupt your opinions really are.
Prove I'm a leftist or shut the fuck up. Show me one post where I've argued in favor of "the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech." I've consistently argued against all of those things (and I think you know it at this point) but you are just too chickenshit to admit you were wrong.
