The Politics of Pregnancy.

[PoliticalChic]

A human fetus is a human being.

That is a religious belief not a scientific fact.

That is scientific fact. I'll not argue with your delusional absurdity and stupidity.

It is not a life as it cannot survive outside of the womb. That is a scientific fact.

Really? Please cite the scientific source for this "fact".

We don't need science. Take a 8 week old fetus out of a woman's body and it will not survive.

"We don't need science."


And here we have the mantra of the blood-thirsty Left abortionist.

 

[PoliticalChic]

A human fetus is a human being.

That is a religious belief not a scientific fact.

That is scientific fact. I'll not argue with your delusional absurdity and stupidity.

It is not a life as it cannot survive outside of the womb. That is a scientific fact.

A human fetus is a human being.

That is a religious belief not a scientific fact.

That is scientific fact. I'll not argue with your delusional absurdity and stupidity.

It is not a life as it cannot survive outside of the womb. That is a scientific fact.

I've got truth so its easy to debunk your lies. If you were taken off this planet and placed on uranus, you wouldn't survive.......but you're still life.

What you have is your religious beliefs. You are another one who wouldn't know the truth if it hit you in the face. Name a scientist who thinks a fetus can survive outside of the woman's body.

Democrats support abortion......and infanticide.
Just as you do.


Every Democrat who voted for laws that allow children born due to a botched abortion favors killing children.....as you do.


Every state that allows abortion up to birth allows infanticide:

a. It would allow the slaughter as the child is partially out of the birth canal

b."The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that's what the mother and the family desired. And then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother."
Virginia governor faces backlash over comments supporting late-term abortion bill - CNNPolitics
...allowed to quietly die: infanticide.

 

[PoliticalChic]

That's why I'm here.

It would seem thay you're here to throw around empty insults and baseless accusations. The reason you're having such a hard time finding "leftist" posts from me is that they don't exist. In point of fact, I argue against leftist positions more consistently, and more persuasively, than you ever could. I'm sorry. Given your inability to tell left from right, that must gnaw at you.

If it wasn't the truth you wouldn't be back a dozen times screaming vulgarity.

 

[Penelope]

I like your way of thinking. Anyone who disagrees with you is dishonest and anyone who agrees with you is honest. People like you were saying the same thing when Columbus said he would sail the world. If the science is not with you then the scientists are the crooks and you are not.

The fact is that there is no scientific evidence as to when a life officially begins. A fetal heartbeat is evidence of nothing. There is no evidence it is murder. This is based on theology not science. People like you want to create a theology just like the mullahs have in Iran. The US is not a country where Christianity and the Bible determines the law.

The fact is that abortions are not taken lightly by a woman. Asking people to tell their stories is not bragging about abortions. It is worth noting that the number of abortions have tumbled even though abortion has been legal.

The issues surrounding abortion are scientific.. It is people like you who make the issue political because you cannot prove that it is not a life. Yet you use the power of the state to force your religious beliefs on others.

A zygote is not a person. A woman has the right to have a say to the decision.

1. "I like your way of thinking. Anyone who disagrees with you is dishonest and anyone who agrees with you is honest."
Pretty much....You're on the right track.
After all, I am never wrong.


2. "If the science is not with you then the scientists are the crooks and you are not."
Science is 'with me.'

“The formation, maturation and meeting of a male and female sex cell are all preliminary to their actual union into a combined cell, or zygote, which definitely marks the beginning of a new individual. The penetration of the ovum by the spermatozoon, and the coming together and pooling of their respective nuclei, constitutes the process of fertilization.”
Ronan O’Rahilly and Fabiola Miller, Human Embryology and Teratology, 3rd edition. New York: Wiley-Liss, 2001. p. 8.



“Although life is a continuous process, fertilization… is a critical landmark because, under ordinary circumstances, a new genetically distinct human organism is formed when the chromosomes of the male and female pronuclei blend in the oocyte.”

“[All] organisms, however large and complex they might be as full grown, begin life as a single cell. This is true for the human being, for instance, who begins life as a fertilized ovum.”

"After fertilization has taken place a new human being has come into being...[this] is no longer a matter of taste or opinion, it is not a metaphysical contention, it is plain experimental evidence...." - Dr Jerome LeJeune, Professor of Genetics at the University of Descartes, Paris, discoverer of the chromosome pattern of Down's Syndrome, and Nobel Prize Winner


"An individual human life begins at conception when a sperm cell from the father fuses with an egg cell from the mother, to form a new cell, the zygote, the first embryonic stage. The zygote grows and divides into two daughter cells, each of which grows and divides into two grand-daughter cells, and this cell growth/division process continues on, over and over again. The zygote is the start of a biological continuum that automatically grows and develops, passing gradually and sequentially through the stages we call foetus, baby, child, adult, old person and ending eventually in death. The full genetic instructions to guide the development of the continuum, in interaction with its environment, are present in the zygote. Every stage along the continuum is biologically human and each point along the continuum has the full human properties appropriate to that point." - Dr. William Reville, University College Cork, Ireland


See what I've taught you today?



3. "The fact is that there is no scientific evidence as to when a life officially begins."
Au contraire.

Shettles, Landrum, M.D., Rorvik, David, Rites of Life: The Scientific Evidence for Life Before Birth, page 36, Zondervan Publishing House, Grand Rapids, Michigan, 1983

“… Conception confers life and makes you one of a kind. Unless you have an identical twin, there is virtually no chance, in the natural course of things, that there will be “another you” – not even if mankind were to persist for billions of years.”



Dr. Jasper Williams, Former President of the National Medical Association (p 74)


4. "A fetal heartbeat is evidence of nothing."
Sometimes I can't believe dolts write stuff like this.
Does your heartbeat prove something? What?


“Times are changing in this country,” Hill said. “We can see more of what’s happening in the womb… We can see that heart beating with those tests and I’ve had those tests and they’re not so bad.”

Hill talked about how happy she was when she heard the fetal heartbeat of her own children.

“I see in this country that we protect sea turtle eggs and we protect other endangered species of animals with a greater degree of scrutiny and zealousness than we protect a child in the womb that has a beating heart,” Hill said. “The womb should be the safest place in the world for an unborn child. I’m asking Mississippi to be different.”




… T]he heart is pumping the embryo’s own blood to his or her brain and body.16 All four chambers of the heart are present17 and more than 1 million heartbeats have occurred.18 The head, as well as the chest and abdominal cavities have formed19and the beginnings of the arms and legs are easily seen.20“




This child, shown in the video below, is just seven weeks and three days old.


7 Weeks Pregnant -- Hiccups & Startle Response


Mississippi Legislature passes bills banning abortion after detectable heartbeat


5. "This is based on theology not science. People like you want to create a theology just like the mullahs have in Iran."
My argument is political not theological.
Are you an American?

Let's check:

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.” Thomas Jefferson.
That is a basic and fundamental American view.


Your side:

"We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life." Leon Trotsky

Our nation was founded on the premise that each individual has the unalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. But they don’t become rights by virtue of birth…we are endowed with these rights by our Creator, at the moment of creation.
This is a political argument: the form of the Creator invoked by the Founders is irrelevant to the debate. Morality is not a consideration here, so there is no mention of contraception as being right or wrong; one’s use of contraceptives does not infringe on anyone else’s rights.


The fact is that our nation, at its very founding, acknowledged that, by virtue of being created, of being conceived, the unborn child, has a right to live. It is not a right that is alienable….even by the child’s mother.



6. "The fact is that abortions are not taken lightly by a woman."

Wrong.

Nearly every abortion is for nothing more than convenience.

The vast majority of abortion performed in the United States are carried out for reasons that can be broadly categorized as “matters of convenience.”

Nearly every abortion is based on convenience.....Convenience, as in having your groceries delivered rather than having to walk across the street to pick them up.....this level of consideration in deciding to execute the child you've created.



In a study of 27 nations, reasons for abortion services were found to be the following:

a. “Worldwide, the most commonly reported reason women cite for having an abortion is to postpone or stop childbearing. The second most common reason—socioeconomic concerns—includes disruption of education or employment; lack of support from the father; desire to provide schooling for existing children; and poverty, unemployment or inability to afford additional children. In addition, relationship problems with a husband or partner and a woman's perception that she is too young constitute other important categories of reasons.” Reasons Why Women Have Induced Abortions: Evidence from 27 Countries


b. A 2004 study of American women yielded similar results: “The reasons most frequently cited were that having a child would interfere with a woman’s education, work or ability to care for dependents (74%); that she could not afford a baby now (73%); and that she did not want to be a single mother or was having relationship problems (48%). Nearly four in 10 women said they had completed their childbearing, and almost one-third were not ready to have a child. Fewer than 1% said their parents’ or partners’ desire for them to have an abortion was the most important reason. Younger women often reported that they were unprepared for the transition to motherhood, while older women regularly cited their responsibility to dependents.”
http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/psrh/full/3711005.pdf



["A study published in Guttmacher's International Family Planning Perspectives in 1998 said risk to a woman's health was the main reason for 2.8% of U.S. abortions in 1987-88."]

c. We must reject the view that inconvenience of a mother’s informed choice outweighs the unalienable right to life of the child she bears by virtue of that choice.




7. "A zygote is not a person."

Actually, it is. It is a human being from the instant the two strands of DNA unite.




I believe I just aborted your entire post.


Hope you learned something.

1. You are never right about anything. You are a fascist pig and nothing more.

2. The fact is a human being can exist outside of the womb. Since this entity cannot then it cannot be classified as a human being.

3. Au contraire. There are scientists on both sides of the issue. There is no scientific consensus on this issue.

4. The trouble is a person can exist outside of a woman's womb. A heartbeat alone does not denote life.

5. Cite the evidence that Jefferson was talking about abortion. Jefferson was talking about a smaller government. Pigs like you refuse to accept that anyone can disagree with them without smearing them. You have more in common with the mullahs in Iran. You want to use the power of the state to enforce your religious beliefs. That is something the founding fathers rejected.

6. That is typical far right wing views. A poll tells you nothing about a woman's feelings on the situation. What you cite as convenience can be far more than that. If a woman feels she is not ready, that does not mean that she is happy about it.

7. It is not a human being. I

"You are never right about anything. You are a fascist pig and nothing more."

Herein we see the only sort of post possible from a victim that I have eviscerated.


Truth, in your posts, is harder to find than a snow snake.

Clearly, you are a person of low self esteem, and I'm here to see that it goes even lower.

Count on it.

Fascists believe in the power of the state to enforce their views. You want extremist abortion laws so you are indeed a fascist.

You wouldn't know the truth if it hit you in the face. Clearly you are a weak minded cult member. All you are proving is you are a far right extremist.

Count on it.

I spend a great deal of time trying to educate Leftists....Fascists.....like you, who would like to make murder a tradition.

But...a conservative is never so tall as when she stoops to educate a Leftist.....


Being opposed to the murder of another human being is a value.
Opposing murder is a society value that goes back prior to the Bible, and prior to our civilization. Values are eternal, as opposed to customs or traditions, such as society acceptance of the slaughter of the unborn, or recently born.


The Democrat Party is now running on full-blown anti-white racism, socialism, infanticide, opposition to free speech, substituting illegal alien voters for the American citizenry, and anti-Semitism… the knuckle-dragging, atavistic pagan party.

See if you recognize the similarity in this Margaret Mead, anthropologist, quote: The natives are superficially agreeable, but they go in for cannibalism, headhunting, infanticide, incest, avoidance and joking relationships, and biting lice in half with their teeth.

One wonders, if she were still alive, what her views of this Democrat Party would be.



Soooo.....how many years did you spend in government school?

I can't let you spread the lie of infanticide, why not try it and go to prison. Killing a newborn is illegal in all states and always have been. Here read the bill here: New York Abortion Laws - FindLaw

You talk about socialism as if its a bad word, when you are pro life let us know. All life is being pro life, even the meat you eat or the illegal children that we treat like crap.

Are you pro everyone gets healthcare? or food stamps or subsidized child care?? What are you pro, sounds like you are not pro nothing.

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. "I like your way of thinking. Anyone who disagrees with you is dishonest and anyone who agrees with you is honest."
Pretty much....You're on the right track.
After all, I am never wrong.


2. "If the science is not with you then the scientists are the crooks and you are not."
Science is 'with me.'

“The formation, maturation and meeting of a male and female sex cell are all preliminary to their actual union into a combined cell, or zygote, which definitely marks the beginning of a new individual. The penetration of the ovum by the spermatozoon, and the coming together and pooling of their respective nuclei, constitutes the process of fertilization.”
Ronan O’Rahilly and Fabiola Miller, Human Embryology and Teratology, 3rd edition. New York: Wiley-Liss, 2001. p. 8.



“Although life is a continuous process, fertilization… is a critical landmark because, under ordinary circumstances, a new genetically distinct human organism is formed when the chromosomes of the male and female pronuclei blend in the oocyte.”

“[All] organisms, however large and complex they might be as full grown, begin life as a single cell. This is true for the human being, for instance, who begins life as a fertilized ovum.”

"After fertilization has taken place a new human being has come into being...[this] is no longer a matter of taste or opinion, it is not a metaphysical contention, it is plain experimental evidence...." - Dr Jerome LeJeune, Professor of Genetics at the University of Descartes, Paris, discoverer of the chromosome pattern of Down's Syndrome, and Nobel Prize Winner


"An individual human life begins at conception when a sperm cell from the father fuses with an egg cell from the mother, to form a new cell, the zygote, the first embryonic stage. The zygote grows and divides into two daughter cells, each of which grows and divides into two grand-daughter cells, and this cell growth/division process continues on, over and over again. The zygote is the start of a biological continuum that automatically grows and develops, passing gradually and sequentially through the stages we call foetus, baby, child, adult, old person and ending eventually in death. The full genetic instructions to guide the development of the continuum, in interaction with its environment, are present in the zygote. Every stage along the continuum is biologically human and each point along the continuum has the full human properties appropriate to that point." - Dr. William Reville, University College Cork, Ireland


See what I've taught you today?



3. "The fact is that there is no scientific evidence as to when a life officially begins."
Au contraire.

Shettles, Landrum, M.D., Rorvik, David, Rites of Life: The Scientific Evidence for Life Before Birth, page 36, Zondervan Publishing House, Grand Rapids, Michigan, 1983

“… Conception confers life and makes you one of a kind. Unless you have an identical twin, there is virtually no chance, in the natural course of things, that there will be “another you” – not even if mankind were to persist for billions of years.”



Dr. Jasper Williams, Former President of the National Medical Association (p 74)


4. "A fetal heartbeat is evidence of nothing."
Sometimes I can't believe dolts write stuff like this.
Does your heartbeat prove something? What?


“Times are changing in this country,” Hill said. “We can see more of what’s happening in the womb… We can see that heart beating with those tests and I’ve had those tests and they’re not so bad.”

Hill talked about how happy she was when she heard the fetal heartbeat of her own children.

“I see in this country that we protect sea turtle eggs and we protect other endangered species of animals with a greater degree of scrutiny and zealousness than we protect a child in the womb that has a beating heart,” Hill said. “The womb should be the safest place in the world for an unborn child. I’m asking Mississippi to be different.”




… T]he heart is pumping the embryo’s own blood to his or her brain and body.16 All four chambers of the heart are present17 and more than 1 million heartbeats have occurred.18 The head, as well as the chest and abdominal cavities have formed19and the beginnings of the arms and legs are easily seen.20“




This child, shown in the video below, is just seven weeks and three days old.


7 Weeks Pregnant -- Hiccups & Startle Response


Mississippi Legislature passes bills banning abortion after detectable heartbeat


5. "This is based on theology not science. People like you want to create a theology just like the mullahs have in Iran."
My argument is political not theological.
Are you an American?

Let's check:

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.” Thomas Jefferson.
That is a basic and fundamental American view.


Your side:

"We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life." Leon Trotsky

Our nation was founded on the premise that each individual has the unalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. But they don’t become rights by virtue of birth…we are endowed with these rights by our Creator, at the moment of creation.
This is a political argument: the form of the Creator invoked by the Founders is irrelevant to the debate. Morality is not a consideration here, so there is no mention of contraception as being right or wrong; one’s use of contraceptives does not infringe on anyone else’s rights.


The fact is that our nation, at its very founding, acknowledged that, by virtue of being created, of being conceived, the unborn child, has a right to live. It is not a right that is alienable….even by the child’s mother.



6. "The fact is that abortions are not taken lightly by a woman."

Wrong.

Nearly every abortion is for nothing more than convenience.

The vast majority of abortion performed in the United States are carried out for reasons that can be broadly categorized as “matters of convenience.”

Nearly every abortion is based on convenience.....Convenience, as in having your groceries delivered rather than having to walk across the street to pick them up.....this level of consideration in deciding to execute the child you've created.



In a study of 27 nations, reasons for abortion services were found to be the following:

a. “Worldwide, the most commonly reported reason women cite for having an abortion is to postpone or stop childbearing. The second most common reason—socioeconomic concerns—includes disruption of education or employment; lack of support from the father; desire to provide schooling for existing children; and poverty, unemployment or inability to afford additional children. In addition, relationship problems with a husband or partner and a woman's perception that she is too young constitute other important categories of reasons.” Reasons Why Women Have Induced Abortions: Evidence from 27 Countries


b. A 2004 study of American women yielded similar results: “The reasons most frequently cited were that having a child would interfere with a woman’s education, work or ability to care for dependents (74%); that she could not afford a baby now (73%); and that she did not want to be a single mother or was having relationship problems (48%). Nearly four in 10 women said they had completed their childbearing, and almost one-third were not ready to have a child. Fewer than 1% said their parents’ or partners’ desire for them to have an abortion was the most important reason. Younger women often reported that they were unprepared for the transition to motherhood, while older women regularly cited their responsibility to dependents.”
http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/psrh/full/3711005.pdf



["A study published in Guttmacher's International Family Planning Perspectives in 1998 said risk to a woman's health was the main reason for 2.8% of U.S. abortions in 1987-88."]

c. We must reject the view that inconvenience of a mother’s informed choice outweighs the unalienable right to life of the child she bears by virtue of that choice.




7. "A zygote is not a person."

Actually, it is. It is a human being from the instant the two strands of DNA unite.




I believe I just aborted your entire post.


Hope you learned something.

1. You are never right about anything. You are a fascist pig and nothing more.

2. The fact is a human being can exist outside of the womb. Since this entity cannot then it cannot be classified as a human being.

3. Au contraire. There are scientists on both sides of the issue. There is no scientific consensus on this issue.

4. The trouble is a person can exist outside of a woman's womb. A heartbeat alone does not denote life.

5. Cite the evidence that Jefferson was talking about abortion. Jefferson was talking about a smaller government. Pigs like you refuse to accept that anyone can disagree with them without smearing them. You have more in common with the mullahs in Iran. You want to use the power of the state to enforce your religious beliefs. That is something the founding fathers rejected.

6. That is typical far right wing views. A poll tells you nothing about a woman's feelings on the situation. What you cite as convenience can be far more than that. If a woman feels she is not ready, that does not mean that she is happy about it.

7. It is not a human being. I

"You are never right about anything. You are a fascist pig and nothing more."

Herein we see the only sort of post possible from a victim that I have eviscerated.


Truth, in your posts, is harder to find than a snow snake.

Clearly, you are a person of low self esteem, and I'm here to see that it goes even lower.

Count on it.

Fascists believe in the power of the state to enforce their views. You want extremist abortion laws so you are indeed a fascist.

You wouldn't know the truth if it hit you in the face. Clearly you are a weak minded cult member. All you are proving is you are a far right extremist.

Count on it.

I spend a great deal of time trying to educate Leftists....Fascists.....like you, who would like to make murder a tradition.

But...a conservative is never so tall as when she stoops to educate a Leftist.....


Being opposed to the murder of another human being is a value.
Opposing murder is a society value that goes back prior to the Bible, and prior to our civilization. Values are eternal, as opposed to customs or traditions, such as society acceptance of the slaughter of the unborn, or recently born.


The Democrat Party is now running on full-blown anti-white racism, socialism, infanticide, opposition to free speech, substituting illegal alien voters for the American citizenry, and anti-Semitism… the knuckle-dragging, atavistic pagan party.

See if you recognize the similarity in this Margaret Mead, anthropologist, quote: The natives are superficially agreeable, but they go in for cannibalism, headhunting, infanticide, incest, avoidance and joking relationships, and biting lice in half with their teeth.

One wonders, if she were still alive, what her views of this Democrat Party would be.



Soooo.....how many years did you spend in government school?

I can't let you spread the lie of infanticide, why not try it and go to prison. Killing a newborn is illegal in all states and always have been. Here read the bill here: New York Abortion Laws - FindLaw

You talk about socialism as if its a bad word, when you are pro life let us know. All life is being pro life, even the meat you eat or the illegal children that we treat like crap.

Are you pro everyone gets healthcare? or food stamps or subsidized child care?? What are you pro, sounds like you are not pro nothing.

"I can't let you spread the lie of infanticide"


Let's check.



1. The facts are that the major political party is actually a supporter of infanticide. On the other side of the aisle, Trump rails against this barbarism:

Trump “described what happens to a child after she is born alive following a failed abortion, saying, “The baby is born. The mother meets with the doctor, they take care of the baby, they wrap the baby beautifully, and then the doctor and the mother determine whether or not they will execute the baby. I don't think so. It's incredible.”
What Happens to a Child Born-alive? The Media Won’t Tell Us.




Hussein Obama supported infanticide...wouldn't vote to support the baby.

Obama named Peter Singer, champion of infanticide, as his 'science adviser.'
The Democrat administration in Virginia offered a law for...in favor of....infanticide....stopped by Republicans.

The Democrat governor of Virginia actually agreed with the bill for infanticide.

"New York abortion law changes allow infanticide"
New York abortion law changes allow infanticide

"Anti-infanticide bill blocked by Senate Democrats"
Senate Democrats block Republicans’ anti-infanticide bill




2. Here’s the context. One of the major selling points of the Left/Democrats is that no personal responsibility is ever required, up to an including taking responsibility for creating a new and unique human being. So, if one does, no prob: kill it and more on.

Somehow this is meant to resonate with women who make a ‘mistake,’ and want the right to eradicate it.

Almost 99 % of all abortions are for nothing more than convenience. And this is perfectly alright for the Left.



That's the reality.

 

[BS Filter]

 

[dblack]

That's why I'm here.

It would seem thay you're here to throw around empty insults and baseless accusations. The reason you're having such a hard time finding "leftist" posts from me is that they don't exist. In point of fact, I argue against leftist positions more consistently, and more persuasively, than you ever could. I'm sorry. Given your inability to tell left from right, that must gnaw at you.

If it wasn't the truth you wouldn't be back a dozen times screaming vulgarity.

Why not? If someone accused you of being a leftist, would you roll over and take it?

Anyway, you're clearly not going to back up your empty accusations. Are the rest of your posts unsupported bullshit as well?

 

[Penelope]

1. You are never right about anything. You are a fascist pig and nothing more.

2. The fact is a human being can exist outside of the womb. Since this entity cannot then it cannot be classified as a human being.

3. Au contraire. There are scientists on both sides of the issue. There is no scientific consensus on this issue.

4. The trouble is a person can exist outside of a woman's womb. A heartbeat alone does not denote life.

5. Cite the evidence that Jefferson was talking about abortion. Jefferson was talking about a smaller government. Pigs like you refuse to accept that anyone can disagree with them without smearing them. You have more in common with the mullahs in Iran. You want to use the power of the state to enforce your religious beliefs. That is something the founding fathers rejected.

6. That is typical far right wing views. A poll tells you nothing about a woman's feelings on the situation. What you cite as convenience can be far more than that. If a woman feels she is not ready, that does not mean that she is happy about it.

7. It is not a human being. I

"You are never right about anything. You are a fascist pig and nothing more."

Herein we see the only sort of post possible from a victim that I have eviscerated.


Truth, in your posts, is harder to find than a snow snake.

Clearly, you are a person of low self esteem, and I'm here to see that it goes even lower.

Count on it.

Fascists believe in the power of the state to enforce their views. You want extremist abortion laws so you are indeed a fascist.

You wouldn't know the truth if it hit you in the face. Clearly you are a weak minded cult member. All you are proving is you are a far right extremist.

Count on it.

I spend a great deal of time trying to educate Leftists....Fascists.....like you, who would like to make murder a tradition.

But...a conservative is never so tall as when she stoops to educate a Leftist.....


Being opposed to the murder of another human being is a value.
Opposing murder is a society value that goes back prior to the Bible, and prior to our civilization. Values are eternal, as opposed to customs or traditions, such as society acceptance of the slaughter of the unborn, or recently born.


The Democrat Party is now running on full-blown anti-white racism, socialism, infanticide, opposition to free speech, substituting illegal alien voters for the American citizenry, and anti-Semitism… the knuckle-dragging, atavistic pagan party.

See if you recognize the similarity in this Margaret Mead, anthropologist, quote: The natives are superficially agreeable, but they go in for cannibalism, headhunting, infanticide, incest, avoidance and joking relationships, and biting lice in half with their teeth.

One wonders, if she were still alive, what her views of this Democrat Party would be.



Soooo.....how many years did you spend in government school?

I can't let you spread the lie of infanticide, why not try it and go to prison. Killing a newborn is illegal in all states and always have been. Here read the bill here: New York Abortion Laws - FindLaw

You talk about socialism as if its a bad word, when you are pro life let us know. All life is being pro life, even the meat you eat or the illegal children that we treat like crap.

Are you pro everyone gets healthcare? or food stamps or subsidized child care?? What are you pro, sounds like you are not pro nothing.

"I can't let you spread the lie of infanticide"


Let's check.



1. The facts are that the major political party is actually a supporter of infanticide. On the other side of the aisle, Trump rails against this barbarism:

Trump “described what happens to a child after she is born alive following a failed abortion, saying, “The baby is born. The mother meets with the doctor, they take care of the baby, they wrap the baby beautifully, and then the doctor and the mother determine whether or not they will execute the baby. I don't think so. It's incredible.”
What Happens to a Child Born-alive? The Media Won’t Tell Us.




Hussein Obama supported infanticide...wouldn't vote to support the baby.

Obama named Peter Singer, champion of infanticide, as his 'science adviser.'
The Democrat administration in Virginia offered a law for...in favor of....infanticide....stopped by Republicans.

The Democrat governor of Virginia actually agreed with the bill for infanticide.

"New York abortion law changes allow infanticide"
New York abortion law changes allow infanticide

"Anti-infanticide bill blocked by Senate Democrats"
Senate Democrats block Republicans’ anti-infanticide bill




2. Here’s the context. One of the major selling points of the Left/Democrats is that no personal responsibility is ever required, up to an including taking responsibility for creating a new and unique human being. So, if one does, no prob: kill it and more on.

Somehow this is meant to resonate with women who make a ‘mistake,’ and want the right to eradicate it.

Almost 99 % of all abortions are for nothing more than convenience. And this is perfectly alright for the Left.



That's the reality.

Infanticide is and has been against the law in the USA. Now taking life support off an infant is not.

 

[BS Filter]

"You are never right about anything. You are a fascist pig and nothing more."

Herein we see the only sort of post possible from a victim that I have eviscerated.


Truth, in your posts, is harder to find than a snow snake.

Clearly, you are a person of low self esteem, and I'm here to see that it goes even lower.

Count on it.

Fascists believe in the power of the state to enforce their views. You want extremist abortion laws so you are indeed a fascist.

You wouldn't know the truth if it hit you in the face. Clearly you are a weak minded cult member. All you are proving is you are a far right extremist.

Count on it.

I spend a great deal of time trying to educate Leftists....Fascists.....like you, who would like to make murder a tradition.

But...a conservative is never so tall as when she stoops to educate a Leftist.....


Being opposed to the murder of another human being is a value.
Opposing murder is a society value that goes back prior to the Bible, and prior to our civilization. Values are eternal, as opposed to customs or traditions, such as society acceptance of the slaughter of the unborn, or recently born.


The Democrat Party is now running on full-blown anti-white racism, socialism, infanticide, opposition to free speech, substituting illegal alien voters for the American citizenry, and anti-Semitism… the knuckle-dragging, atavistic pagan party.

See if you recognize the similarity in this Margaret Mead, anthropologist, quote: The natives are superficially agreeable, but they go in for cannibalism, headhunting, infanticide, incest, avoidance and joking relationships, and biting lice in half with their teeth.

One wonders, if she were still alive, what her views of this Democrat Party would be.



Soooo.....how many years did you spend in government school?

I can't let you spread the lie of infanticide, why not try it and go to prison. Killing a newborn is illegal in all states and always have been. Here read the bill here: New York Abortion Laws - FindLaw

You talk about socialism as if its a bad word, when you are pro life let us know. All life is being pro life, even the meat you eat or the illegal children that we treat like crap.

Are you pro everyone gets healthcare? or food stamps or subsidized child care?? What are you pro, sounds like you are not pro nothing.

"I can't let you spread the lie of infanticide"


Let's check.



1. The facts are that the major political party is actually a supporter of infanticide. On the other side of the aisle, Trump rails against this barbarism:

Trump “described what happens to a child after she is born alive following a failed abortion, saying, “The baby is born. The mother meets with the doctor, they take care of the baby, they wrap the baby beautifully, and then the doctor and the mother determine whether or not they will execute the baby. I don't think so. It's incredible.”
What Happens to a Child Born-alive? The Media Won’t Tell Us.




Hussein Obama supported infanticide...wouldn't vote to support the baby.

Obama named Peter Singer, champion of infanticide, as his 'science adviser.'
The Democrat administration in Virginia offered a law for...in favor of....infanticide....stopped by Republicans.

The Democrat governor of Virginia actually agreed with the bill for infanticide.

"New York abortion law changes allow infanticide"
New York abortion law changes allow infanticide

"Anti-infanticide bill blocked by Senate Democrats"
Senate Democrats block Republicans’ anti-infanticide bill




2. Here’s the context. One of the major selling points of the Left/Democrats is that no personal responsibility is ever required, up to an including taking responsibility for creating a new and unique human being. So, if one does, no prob: kill it and more on.

Somehow this is meant to resonate with women who make a ‘mistake,’ and want the right to eradicate it.

Almost 99 % of all abortions are for nothing more than convenience. And this is perfectly alright for the Left.



That's the reality.

Infanticide is and has been against the law in the USA. Now taking life support off an infant is not.

Play your mind games. You're gonna be judged.

 

[CrazedScotsman]

Is the baby just a "Clump of Cells"? We are all a clump of cells so why not just kill or murder "Undesirables"?

A Zygot is not a human life, or so I've been told anyway. Sorry, but what happens when sperm meets egg is a human life and should be afforded every right that we all enjoy.

When does water become water?
Is an oxygen molecule water?
What about an hydrogen molecule, is that water?
No, they are not but when you put the two together, two molecules of hydrogen and one molecule of oxygen, they become water. They aren't almost water, or in the early stages of water, together they are water. There is no in between. The same goes for when sperm fertilizes an egg. Apart, they are just sperm and egg. Together they make a human life, not almost human or the potential of becoming human, they are human.

 

[BS Filter]

Is the baby just a "Clump of Cells"? We are all a clump of cells so why not just kill or murder "Undesirables"?

A Zygot is not a human life, or so I've been told anyway. Sorry, but what happens when sperm meets egg is a human life and should be afforded every right that we all enjoy.

When does water become water?
Is an oxygen molecule water?
What about an hydrogen molecule, is that water?
No, they are not but when you put the two together, two molecules of hydrogen and one molecule of oxygen, they become water. They aren't almost water, or in the early stages of water, together they are water. There is no in between. The same goes for when sperm fertilizes an egg. Apart, they are just sperm and egg. Together they make a human life, not almost human or the potential of becoming human, they are human.

Agree, basic science. These indoctrinated creatures preach to us about the "science" of climate change (formerly known as "global warming", which was proven to be false so they changed it to climate change), and call us deniers, idiots, etc, all the while they are denying basic biology.

 

[PoliticalChic]

"New Study Shows Link Between Sex, Pregnancy
June 7th, 2016

ANN ARBOR, MI—Researchers at the University of Michigan announced Tuesday that a comprehensive, decade-long study has discovered a strong correlation between sexual intercourse and pregnancy in women—a groundbreaking conclusion that is sure to have far-reaching implications.

According to Dr. Michael Citino, who led the study, nearly every one of the tens of thousands of test subjects had engaged in sexual intercourse at least once in the several months immediately preceding pregnancy.

“The correlation is dramatic and astounding, and gives us fresh insight into how and why women become pregnant,” Citino said at a press conference, noting also that the results of this study can be immediately beneficial for humankind, especially in the area of family planning.

“For instance, extrapolating the data would seem to indicate that for anyone who wishes to avoid becoming pregnant with a child—or impregnating someone else—abstaining from sexual intercourse should, according to the study, be one very effective way to achieve that result.”
New Study Shows Link Between Sex, Pregnancy

 

[PoliticalChic]

That's why I'm here.

It would seem thay you're here to throw around empty insults and baseless accusations. The reason you're having such a hard time finding "leftist" posts from me is that they don't exist. In point of fact, I argue against leftist positions more consistently, and more persuasively, than you ever could. I'm sorry. Given your inability to tell left from right, that must gnaw at you.

If it wasn't the truth you wouldn't be back a dozen times screaming vulgarity.

Why not? If someone accused you of being a leftist, would you roll over and take it?

Anyway, you're clearly not going to back up your empty accusations. Are the rest of your posts unsupported bullshit as well?

More proof? Sure.

You're fine with this:

TOTAL ABORTIONS SINCE 1973:
59,115,995

Based on numbers reported by the Guttmacher Institute 1973-2014, with projections of 926,190 for 2015-16. GI estimates a possible 3 percent under reporting rate, which is factored into the overall total. [1/17]
http://www.christianliferesources.com/article/u-s-abortion-statistics-by-year-1973-current-1042



And this....

"We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life." Leon Trotsky



Yup....you're a Leftist.

 

[PoliticalChic]

"You are never right about anything. You are a fascist pig and nothing more."

Herein we see the only sort of post possible from a victim that I have eviscerated.


Truth, in your posts, is harder to find than a snow snake.

Clearly, you are a person of low self esteem, and I'm here to see that it goes even lower.

Count on it.

Fascists believe in the power of the state to enforce their views. You want extremist abortion laws so you are indeed a fascist.

You wouldn't know the truth if it hit you in the face. Clearly you are a weak minded cult member. All you are proving is you are a far right extremist.

Count on it.

I spend a great deal of time trying to educate Leftists....Fascists.....like you, who would like to make murder a tradition.

But...a conservative is never so tall as when she stoops to educate a Leftist.....


Being opposed to the murder of another human being is a value.
Opposing murder is a society value that goes back prior to the Bible, and prior to our civilization. Values are eternal, as opposed to customs or traditions, such as society acceptance of the slaughter of the unborn, or recently born.


The Democrat Party is now running on full-blown anti-white racism, socialism, infanticide, opposition to free speech, substituting illegal alien voters for the American citizenry, and anti-Semitism… the knuckle-dragging, atavistic pagan party.

See if you recognize the similarity in this Margaret Mead, anthropologist, quote: The natives are superficially agreeable, but they go in for cannibalism, headhunting, infanticide, incest, avoidance and joking relationships, and biting lice in half with their teeth.

One wonders, if she were still alive, what her views of this Democrat Party would be.



Soooo.....how many years did you spend in government school?

I can't let you spread the lie of infanticide, why not try it and go to prison. Killing a newborn is illegal in all states and always have been. Here read the bill here: New York Abortion Laws - FindLaw

You talk about socialism as if its a bad word, when you are pro life let us know. All life is being pro life, even the meat you eat or the illegal children that we treat like crap.

Are you pro everyone gets healthcare? or food stamps or subsidized child care?? What are you pro, sounds like you are not pro nothing.

"I can't let you spread the lie of infanticide"


Let's check.



1. The facts are that the major political party is actually a supporter of infanticide. On the other side of the aisle, Trump rails against this barbarism:

Trump “described what happens to a child after she is born alive following a failed abortion, saying, “The baby is born. The mother meets with the doctor, they take care of the baby, they wrap the baby beautifully, and then the doctor and the mother determine whether or not they will execute the baby. I don't think so. It's incredible.”
What Happens to a Child Born-alive? The Media Won’t Tell Us.




Hussein Obama supported infanticide...wouldn't vote to support the baby.

Obama named Peter Singer, champion of infanticide, as his 'science adviser.'
The Democrat administration in Virginia offered a law for...in favor of....infanticide....stopped by Republicans.

The Democrat governor of Virginia actually agreed with the bill for infanticide.

"New York abortion law changes allow infanticide"
New York abortion law changes allow infanticide

"Anti-infanticide bill blocked by Senate Democrats"
Senate Democrats block Republicans’ anti-infanticide bill




2. Here’s the context. One of the major selling points of the Left/Democrats is that no personal responsibility is ever required, up to an including taking responsibility for creating a new and unique human being. So, if one does, no prob: kill it and more on.

Somehow this is meant to resonate with women who make a ‘mistake,’ and want the right to eradicate it.

Almost 99 % of all abortions are for nothing more than convenience. And this is perfectly alright for the Left.



That's the reality.

Infanticide is and has been against the law in the USA. Now taking life support off an infant is not.

Since when do Liberals/Democrat obey the law?????



. There is no way to separate abortion from infanticide for this reason: what if a child is born as a result of an unsuccessful attempted abortion?


And, as several states now allow abortion up to the moment of birth,…
“The state of New York recently passed a horrific new abortion law removing almost all previous restrictions. The law now allows abortions to be performed up to the point of natural birth by physicians and also by some non-physician health care practitioners. It also removes protections for babies who accidentally survive an abortion procedure.” New York abortion law changes allow infanticide



"7 states already allow abortion up to birth — not just New York"
7 states already allow abortion up to birth — not just New York






…..the result of what happens to that child is included here:


“The practice in some societies of killing unwanted children soon after birth.”
infanticide | Definition of infanticide in English by Lexico Dictionaries




There is no dancing around it. It is infanticide.

 

[dblack]

Yup....you're a Leftist.

Still lying.

Show me one post where I've argued in favor of "the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech. That's what you claimed I support. You're either a complete idiot (I'm leaning this way) or an unscrupulous liar (also a distinct possibility).

 

[PoliticalChic]

Yup....you're a Leftist.

Still lying.

Show me one post where I've argued in favor of "the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech. That's what you claimed I support. You're either a complete idiot (I'm leaning this way) or an unscrupulous liar (also a distinct possibility).

More proof? Sure.

You're fine with this:

TOTAL ABORTIONS SINCE 1973:
59,115,995

Based on numbers reported by the Guttmacher Institute 1973-2014, with projections of 926,190 for 2015-16. GI estimates a possible 3 percent under reporting rate, which is factored into the overall total. [1/17]
http://www.christianliferesources.com/article/u-s-abortion-statistics-by-year-1973-current-1042



And this....

"We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life." Leon Trotsky



Yup....you're a Leftist.




Let me know when I've beaten sense into you, and you change your views.

Until then....you're simply a cookie-cutter boiler-plate Leftist.

 

[dblack]

Yup....you're a Leftist.

Still lying.

Show me one post where I've argued in favor of "the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech. That's what you claimed I support. You're either a complete idiot (I'm leaning this way) or an unscrupulous liar (also a distinct possibility).

More proof? Sure.

You're fine with this:

TOTAL ABORTIONS SINCE 1973 ....

LOL - yes, this is the disagreement that prompted your mistake. From this, you concluded that I was a "leftist". In particular that I favored "the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech". That's not true, and you've failed to provide ANY evidence that these are my views. Because they are not. You're simply lying because I disagree with you about abortion.

 

[Cecilie1200]

And, as we have learned in recent weeks, Democrat controlled legislative bodies have determined that not only is said murder a ‘right,’ but should the baby actually be born, it can be set aside and be allowed, if they so consider, to pass away.

You know this is not true, even Republicans take life support off of an infant. When a fetus in born, there is not an abortion, and murdering an infant is against the law in the US.

A human fetus is a human being.

That is a religious belief not a scientific fact.

THAT is a talking point, not a reality.

YOU are using talking points and no science.

Yes, I'm sure that's what the hive mind told you to believe. But since all you've had to say is "You just think that because of religion, which you never mentioned", I think I can live just fine with not caring what a fanatic drone thinks.

 

[Cecilie1200]

A human fetus is a human being.

That is a religious belief not a scientific fact.

That is scientific fact. I'll not argue with your delusional absurdity and stupidity.

It is not a life as it cannot survive outside of the womb. That is a scientific fact.

Really? Please cite the scientific source for this "fact".

We don't need science. Take a 8 week old fetus out of a woman's body and it will not survive.

"We don't need science" = This is why you get laughed at.

Now, see if you can plug your brain in and at least ATTEMPT to make it think. I know it'll be hard, being such an unfamiliar activity, but give it a try. You told me something was a scientific fact, shitforbrains. I asked you to prove that it was a scientific fact, and you responded that "We don't need science." Basically, pond scum, you just admitted that you lied your ass off.

A position you can't defend without lying is a position you know is wrong, and don't care. Another word for that would be "evil".

 

[Cecilie1200]

A human fetus is a human being.

That is a religious belief not a scientific fact.

That is scientific fact. I'll not argue with your delusional absurdity and stupidity.

It is not a life as it cannot survive outside of the womb. That is a scientific fact.

A human fetus is a human being.

That is a religious belief not a scientific fact.

That is scientific fact. I'll not argue with your delusional absurdity and stupidity.

It is not a life as it cannot survive outside of the womb. That is a scientific fact.

I've got truth so its easy to debunk your lies. If you were taken off this planet and placed on uranus, you wouldn't survive.......but you're still life.

What you have is your religious beliefs. You are another one who wouldn't know the truth if it hit you in the face. Name a scientist who thinks a fetus can survive outside of the woman's body.

"What you have is your religious beliefs . . . which you've never mentioned, but my masters told me that if I shout 'Religious!' over and over, that would make it okay to be dumber than a rock."

Name a scientist who thinks "outside the womb" is a requirement for life. I'll give you a hint, Vacuum Skull: "Life" actually does have a scientific definition, and Google is just as capable of searching it for you as it is of searching leftist blog sites. Give it a try, because right now, you're nothing but a bad meme.