The Politics of Pregnancy.

[PoliticalChic]

1.A perennial mistake that folks make is awarding an undeserved objectivity, trustworthiness and/or ability to make decisions for the entire public. Nowhere is this more evident that that awarded to politicians, economists, bureaucrats, and weathermen. But awarding same to those nominally known as ‘scientists’ is surely a close second. Biases, preferences, politics and credit card debt all enter ‘scientist’s’ claims as do they any average citizen.

If all of the above named functionaries were as honest and reputable as claimed, abortion would not even be an issue: it would not be an option.




2.For context, it is a tenet of faith for every Liberal/Democrat/Progressive, that women have the right to exterminate the unique, separate, living human being that, under their own auspices, now absorbs nourishment in said woman’s body.

And, as we have learned in recent weeks, Democrat controlled legislative bodies have determined that not only is said murder a ‘right,’ but should the baby actually be born, it can be set aside and be allowed, if they so consider, to pass away.




Savages cheered when the New York State government passed such a bill into law.

And another savage: “‘It was the best decision I have ever made’: Actress Jameela Jamil defends her abortion, criticizes bans”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...es-bans/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.e72235056612


And more: “Oprah Winfrey Promotes “Shout Your Abortion” Movement Where Women Brag About Their Abortions”
Oprah Winfrey Promotes “Shout Your Abortion” Movement Where Women Brag About Their Abortions | LifeNews.com




3. The questions that surround the issue are largely political, rather than scientific. Is it a living thing that is to be made non-living? Of course. "Development of the embryo begins at Stage 1 when a sperm fertilizes an oocyte and together they form a zygote."
[England, Marjorie A. Life Before Birth. 2nd ed. England: Mosby-Wolfe, 1996, p.31]

Is it a human being? I will no doubt be a Homo sapiens…if you keep your hands off.

Is it part of the woman’s body? Nay….it has entirely different DNA, fingerprints, and, often, a different gender.



Let’s get to the law…..

Next.

 

[Moonglow]

Yet the child can't survive out of the womb until labor is triggered and then the child has to be taken care of to survive. You people are trying to claim there is no need for support during development..

 

[Penelope]

And, as we have learned in recent weeks, Democrat controlled legislative bodies have determined that not only is said murder a ‘right,’ but should the baby actually be born, it can be set aside and be allowed, if they so consider, to pass away.

You know this is not true, even Republicans take life support off of an infant. When a fetus in born, there is not an abortion, and murdering an infant is against the law in the US.

 

[PoliticalChic]

And, as we have learned in recent weeks, Democrat controlled legislative bodies have determined that not only is said murder a ‘right,’ but should the baby actually be born, it can be set aside and be allowed, if they so consider, to pass away.

You know this is not true, even Republicans take life support off of an infant. When a fetus in born, there is not an abortion, and murdering an infant is against the law in the US.

"...there is not an abortion, and murdering an infant is against the law in the US."


"Alabama State Rep. John Rogers (D) on abortion: “Some kids are unwanted, so you kill them now or you kill them later. You bring them in the world unwanted, unloved, you send them to the electric chair. So, you kill them now or you kill them later” pic.twitter.com/dxPg6X759h
— Ryan Saavedra (@RealSaavedra) May 1, 2019




"This is stomach curling and makes Ralph Northam look like a moderate on abortion," Trump Jr tweeted in response. "Every Democrat running for President needs to be asked where they stand on this. The extreme turn we've seen from Dems on abortion recently is truly sickening."
WATCH: Democrat says, Donald Trump Jr's "mother should have aborted him... because he's retarded" · Caldron Pool

 

[BULLDOG]

And, as we have learned in recent weeks, Democrat controlled legislative bodies have determined that not only is said murder a ‘right,’ but should the baby actually be born, it can be set aside and be allowed, if they so consider, to pass away.

You know this is not true, even Republicans take life support off of an infant. When a fetus in born, there is not an abortion, and murdering an infant is against the law in the US.

"...there is not an abortion, and murdering an infant is against the law in the US."


"Alabama State Rep. John Rogers (D) on abortion: “Some kids are unwanted, so you kill them now or you kill them later. You bring them in the world unwanted, unloved, you send them to the electric chair. So, you kill them now or you kill them later” pic.twitter.com/dxPg6X759h
— Ryan Saavedra (@RealSaavedra) May 1, 2019




"This is stomach curling and makes Ralph Northam look like a moderate on abortion," Trump Jr tweeted in response. "Every Democrat running for President needs to be asked where they stand on this. The extreme turn we've seen from Dems on abortion recently is truly sickening."
WATCH: Democrat says, Donald Trump Jr's "mother should have aborted him... because he's retarded" · Caldron Pool

So a politician made a really dumb remark. A dumb remark doesn't make it the law.

 

[PoliticalChic]

As in the OP, is a mistake to assume that politicians and judges do what is right.....frequently they make decisions based on their biases.
No better example than the following:




4. The Supreme Court has spoken.

“In its landmark 1973 abortion cases, the U.S. Supreme Court recognized a constitutional right to abortion, but held that states could prohibit abortion after fetal viability—the point at which a fetus can sustain life outside the womb—if their policies met certain requirements. Since then, the Supreme Court has consistently reaffirmed the fundamental right to abortion while also allowing new limits on a woman’s ability to obtain one.

The current U.S. Supreme Court standard holds that states may prohibit abortion after fetal viability so long as there are exceptions for the life and health (both physical and mental) of the woman. Under this legal standard, viability—which can range from 24 to 28 weeks after the start of the woman’s last menstrual period (LMP) —must be determined on an individual basis, and determinations of both fetal viability and the woman’s health are at the discretion of the patient’s physician….more than a third of states have successfully implemented what are termed “20-week abortion bans.” These bans are based on the unfounded assertion that a fetus can feel pain at 20 weeks postfertilization (an estimated date of conception), equivalent to 22 weeks LMP.”
State Bans on Abortion Throughout Pregnancy




Case closed? Hardly.

“Honest pro-choicers admit Roe v. Wade was a horrible decision”
Honest pro-choicers admit Roe v. Wade was a horrible decision




The claim by this political….read ‘Leftist’….court that the Constitution covers this issue is bogus, there is no such ‘right to privacy’…..or a citizen could claim same when he buys a gun from the neighborhood thug.

Liberals/Democrats have made clear that killing innocent human beings is not beneath them.
It appears, nothing is beneath them.

Not legal, not moral, not science.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

And, as we have learned in recent weeks, Democrat controlled legislative bodies have determined that not only is said murder a ‘right,’ but should the baby actually be born, it can be set aside and be allowed, if they so consider, to pass away.

You know this is not true, even Republicans take life support off of an infant. When a fetus in born, there is not an abortion, and murdering an infant is against the law in the US.

A human fetus is a human being.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

And, as we have learned in recent weeks, Democrat controlled legislative bodies have determined that not only is said murder a ‘right,’ but should the baby actually be born, it can be set aside and be allowed, if they so consider, to pass away.

You know this is not true, even Republicans take life support off of an infant. When a fetus in born, there is not an abortion, and murdering an infant is against the law in the US.

"...there is not an abortion, and murdering an infant is against the law in the US."


"Alabama State Rep. John Rogers (D) on abortion: “Some kids are unwanted, so you kill them now or you kill them later. You bring them in the world unwanted, unloved, you send them to the electric chair. So, you kill them now or you kill them later” pic.twitter.com/dxPg6X759h
— Ryan Saavedra (@RealSaavedra) May 1, 2019




"This is stomach curling and makes Ralph Northam look like a moderate on abortion," Trump Jr tweeted in response. "Every Democrat running for President needs to be asked where they stand on this. The extreme turn we've seen from Dems on abortion recently is truly sickening."
WATCH: Democrat says, Donald Trump Jr's "mother should have aborted him... because he's retarded" · Caldron Pool

So a politician made a really dumb remark. A dumb remark doesn't make it the law.

Dumb remark? Yes. True intentions? Yes.

 

[PoliticalChic]

And, as we have learned in recent weeks, Democrat controlled legislative bodies have determined that not only is said murder a ‘right,’ but should the baby actually be born, it can be set aside and be allowed, if they so consider, to pass away.

You know this is not true, even Republicans take life support off of an infant. When a fetus in born, there is not an abortion, and murdering an infant is against the law in the US.

"...there is not an abortion, and murdering an infant is against the law in the US."


"Alabama State Rep. John Rogers (D) on abortion: “Some kids are unwanted, so you kill them now or you kill them later. You bring them in the world unwanted, unloved, you send them to the electric chair. So, you kill them now or you kill them later” pic.twitter.com/dxPg6X759h
— Ryan Saavedra (@RealSaavedra) May 1, 2019




"This is stomach curling and makes Ralph Northam look like a moderate on abortion," Trump Jr tweeted in response. "Every Democrat running for President needs to be asked where they stand on this. The extreme turn we've seen from Dems on abortion recently is truly sickening."
WATCH: Democrat says, Donald Trump Jr's "mother should have aborted him... because he's retarded" · Caldron Pool

So a politician made a really dumb remark. A dumb remark doesn't make it the law.

Dumd remark? Yes. True intentions? Yes.

And, of course, it is not just one 'Democrat making a dumb remark'.....

It is all of them supporting same:


"New York abortion law changes allow infanticide"
New York abortion law changes allow infanticide

"Anti-infanticide bill blocked by Senate Democrats"
Senate Democrats block Republicans’ anti-infanticide bill

 

[BULLDOG]

And, as we have learned in recent weeks, Democrat controlled legislative bodies have determined that not only is said murder a ‘right,’ but should the baby actually be born, it can be set aside and be allowed, if they so consider, to pass away.

You know this is not true, even Republicans take life support off of an infant. When a fetus in born, there is not an abortion, and murdering an infant is against the law in the US.

"...there is not an abortion, and murdering an infant is against the law in the US."


"Alabama State Rep. John Rogers (D) on abortion: “Some kids are unwanted, so you kill them now or you kill them later. You bring them in the world unwanted, unloved, you send them to the electric chair. So, you kill them now or you kill them later” pic.twitter.com/dxPg6X759h
— Ryan Saavedra (@RealSaavedra) May 1, 2019




"This is stomach curling and makes Ralph Northam look like a moderate on abortion," Trump Jr tweeted in response. "Every Democrat running for President needs to be asked where they stand on this. The extreme turn we've seen from Dems on abortion recently is truly sickening."
WATCH: Democrat says, Donald Trump Jr's "mother should have aborted him... because he's retarded" · Caldron Pool

So a politician made a really dumb remark. A dumb remark doesn't make it the law.

Dumb remark? Yes. True intentions? Yes.

Law? No.

 

[william the wie]

The big problem with abortion for the pro-choice crowd is that they are weeding out the genes for being pro-abortion

 

[PoliticalChic]

The big problem with abortion for the pro-choice crowd is that they are weeding out the genes for being pro-abortion

I don't see that as being the greatest problem, willie....

They are demanding that every member of this society participate in the atrocity.

Imagine, if we stopped funding Planned Murder to the tune of half a $billion.....and NPR, et al, and they could pay for their own murder plans.

How's that for a start?

 

[PoliticalChic]

5. How much does the abortion question rely on science? Well, some degree of reliance is attached to the word ‘viability.’

There are two accepted definitions.

viability

noun

vi·a·bil·i·ty | \ ˌvī-ə-ˈbi-lə-tē \

Definition of viability

: the quality or state of being viable: such as

a(1) : the ability to live, grow, and develop

(2) : the capability of a fetus to survive outside the uterus fetal viability
Definition of VIABILITY





If one accepts the first, most common one, there would be no abortion. But in our political narrative, the second one is applied.

If the baby can live outside the womb, it is said to be abortion-proof……as long as it is not in a Democrat-controlled precinct.





Hussein Obama’s ‘science adviser,’ Peter Singer claims is it perfectly reasonable to kill a newborn, based on his definition of ‘viability’….how aware the individual is of itself, and its future.

“Self-consciousness, which could provide a basis for holding that it is wrong to kill one being and replace it with another, is not to be found in either the fetus or the newborn infant. Neither the fetus nor the newborn infant is an individual capable of regarding itself as a distinct entity with a life of its own to lead, and it is only for newborn infants, or for still earlier stages of human life, that replaceability should be considered to be an ethically acceptable option.”
Taking Life: Humans, by Peter Singer



It is consistent with the earlier Liberal/Democrat view:
"We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life."
Leon Trotsky

 

[william the wie]

The big problem with abortion for the pro-choice crowd is that they are weeding out the genes for being pro-abortion

I don't see that as being the greatest problem, willie....

They are demanding that every member of this society participate in the atrocity.

Imagine, if we stopped funding Planned Murder to the tune of half a $billion.....and NPR, et al, and they could pay for their own murder plans.

How's that for a start?

Oh I agree with that but the predilection for psychopathic behavior is also breeding out

 

[william the wie]

PC, I think you believe me to be joking when I call the Ds the political wing of organized crime. Joe Kennedy bought the 1960 election from the Chicago outfit. JFK didn't protect the Outfit's investment in Cuba by cutting off air support for the Bay of Pigs. He was hit and the Hitter was hit in classic Outfit style. RFK tried to clean up the teamsters and I wonder how many hitmen it took to cover all the bases at the hotel where he was killed. Abortion is mostly Ds killing Ds and while I do not think that killing babies is right under any circumstances, it is literally a foundational belief of the Ds since Jackson's 1814 march on New Orleans and maybe earlier. Abolishing the Ds is the only route to abolishing abortion as a life style choice..

 

[PoliticalChic]

The big problem with abortion for the pro-choice crowd is that they are weeding out the genes for being pro-abortion

I don't see that as being the greatest problem, willie....

They are demanding that every member of this society participate in the atrocity.

Imagine, if we stopped funding Planned Murder to the tune of half a $billion.....and NPR, et al, and they could pay for their own murder plans.

How's that for a start?

Oh I agree with that but the predilection for psychopathic behavior is also breeding out

I wish.

 

[PoliticalChic]

PC, I think you believe me to be joking when I call the Ds the political wing of organized crime. Joe Kennedy bought the 1960 election from the Chicago outfit. JFK didn't protect the Outfit's investment in Cuba by cutting off air support for the Bay of Pigs. He was hit and the Hitter was hit in classic Outfit style. RFK tried to clean up the teamsters and I wonder how many hitmen it took to cover all the bases at the hotel where he was killed. Abortion is mostly Ds killing Ds and while I do not think that killing babies is right under any circumstances, it is literally a foundational belief of the Ds since Jackson's 1814 march on New Orleans and maybe earlier. Abolishing the Ds is the only route to abolishing abortion as a life style choice..

"...while I do not think that killing babies is right under any circumstances, it is literally a foundational belief of the Ds ..."


Excellent!

 

[PoliticalChic]

6. Where is ‘viability’ a significant factor? Well….in more civilized states….unlike this:

“The state of New York recently passed a horrific new abortion law removing almost all previous restrictions. The law now allows abortions to be performed up to the point of natural birth by physicians and also by some non-physician health care practitioners. It also removes protections for babies who accidentally survive an abortion procedure.” New York abortion law changes allow



"7 states already allow abortion up to birth — not just New York"
7 states already allow abortion up to birth — not just New York



“Undue burden” is the test that courts have been using since 1992 to evaluate whether state laws on abortion are constitutional. In Planned Parenthood v. Casey that year, the Court declared, “An undue burden exists and therefore a provision of law is invalid if its purpose or effect is to place substantial obstacles in the path of a woman seeking an abortion before the fetus attains viability.” The Supreme Court’s Just Application of the Undue-Burden Standard for Abortion




States opposed to the barbaric procedure have used the loophole “before the fetus attains viability.”

How?

Next.

 

[william the wie]

The only possible way to do away with contraceptive abortion (rape,incest, life of the mother and pulling the plug {placenta} exemptions are currently untouchable) is to thoroughly investigate the witch hunt to send at least some major D donors to jail.

 

[PoliticalChic]

7. States opposed to the barbaric procedure have used the loophole “before the fetus attains viability.”

“Georgia, Kentucky, Mississippi and Ohio stopped short of outright bans, instead passing so-called heartbeat bills that effectively prohibit abortions after six weeks of pregnancy, when doctors can usually start detecting a fetal heartbeat. Utah and Arkansas voted to limit the procedure to the middle of the second trimester.

Most other states follow the standard set by the Supreme Court’s Roe decision in 1973, which says abortion is legal until the fetus reaches viability, usually at 24 to 28 weeks.” Abortion Bans: 8 States Have Passed Bills to Limit the Procedure This Year




“The 1970 law stated that an abortion could be done legally
for any reason prior to 24 weeks, but only to protect the life of the mother
after 24 weeks. Why 24 weeks? 24 weeks gestation was considered to be the limit
of viability for a fetus in 1970. Today it would probably be more like 22
weeks, but they didn’t change that.” Abortion and viability | Bioethics.net




8.But the 24 weeks viability is not a hard and fast rule.
“There is no sharp limit of development, gestational age, or weight at which a human fetus automatically becomes viable….As of 2006, the two youngest children to survive premature birth are thought to be James Elgin Gill (born on 20 May 1987 in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, at 21 weeks and 5 days gestational age),[29][30] and Amillia Taylor (an IVF pregnancy, born on 24 October 2006 in Miami, Florida, at 21 weeks and 6 days gestational age).[31][32] Both children were born just under 20 weeks from fertilization (or 22 weeks' gestation).” Fetal viability - Wikipedia




Of course, the Democrats/Liberals/Progressives can’t wait to get their bloody murderous paws on babies…. Alabama’s bill is the first outright ban on abortion.