The Politics of Pregnancy.

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    1.A perennial mistake that folks make is awarding an undeserved objectivity, trustworthiness and/or ability to make decisions for the entire public. Nowhere is this more evident that that awarded to politicians, economists, bureaucrats, and weathermen. But awarding same to those nominally known as ‘scientists’ is surely a close second. Biases, preferences, politics and credit card debt all enter ‘scientist’s’ claims as do they any average citizen.

    If all of the above named functionaries were as honest and reputable as claimed, abortion would not even be an issue: it would not be an option.




    2.For context, it is a tenet of faith for every Liberal/Democrat/Progressive, that women have the right to exterminate the unique, separate, living human being that, under their own auspices, now absorbs nourishment in said woman’s body.

    And, as we have learned in recent weeks, Democrat controlled legislative bodies have determined that not only is said murder a ‘right,’ but should the baby actually be born, it can be set aside and be allowed, if they so consider, to pass away.




    Savages cheered when the New York State government passed such a bill into law.

    And another savage: “‘It was the best decision I have ever made’: Actress Jameela Jamil defends her abortion, criticizes bans”
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...es-bans/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.e72235056612


    And more: “Oprah Winfrey Promotes “Shout Your Abortion” Movement Where Women Brag About Their Abortions”
    Oprah Winfrey Promotes “Shout Your Abortion” Movement Where Women Brag About Their Abortions | LifeNews.com




    3. The questions that surround the issue are largely political, rather than scientific. Is it a living thing that is to be made non-living? Of course. "Development of the embryo begins at Stage 1 when a sperm fertilizes an oocyte and together they form a zygote."
    [England, Marjorie A. Life Before Birth. 2nd ed. England: Mosby-Wolfe, 1996, p.31]

    Is it a human being? I will no doubt be a Homo sapiens…if you keep your hands off.

    Is it part of the woman’s body? Nay….it has entirely different DNA, fingerprints, and, often, a different gender.



    Let’s get to the law…..

    Next.
     
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    Yet the child can't survive out of the womb until labor is triggered and then the child has to be taken care of to survive. You people are trying to claim there is no need for support during development..
     
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    You know this is not true, even Republicans take life support off of an infant. When a fetus in born, there is not an abortion, and murdering an infant is against the law in the US.
     
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    "...there is not an abortion, and murdering an infant is against the law in the US."


    "Alabama State Rep. John Rogers (D) on abortion: “Some kids are unwanted, so you kill them now or you kill them later. You bring them in the world unwanted, unloved, you send them to the electric chair. So, you kill them now or you kill them later” pic.twitter.com/dxPg6X759h
    — Ryan Saavedra (@RealSaavedra) May 1, 2019




    "This is stomach curling and makes Ralph Northam look like a moderate on abortion," Trump Jr tweeted in response. "Every Democrat running for President needs to be asked where they stand on this. The extreme turn we've seen from Dems on abortion recently is truly sickening."
    WATCH: Democrat says, Donald Trump Jr's "mother should have aborted him... because he's retarded" · Caldron Pool
     
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    So a politician made a really dumb remark. A dumb remark doesn't make it the law.
     
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    As in the OP, is a mistake to assume that politicians and judges do what is right.....frequently they make decisions based on their biases.
    No better example than the following:




    4. The Supreme Court has spoken.

    “In its landmark 1973 abortion cases, the U.S. Supreme Court recognized a constitutional right to abortion, but held that states could prohibit abortion after fetal viability—the point at which a fetus can sustain life outside the womb—if their policies met certain requirements. Since then, the Supreme Court has consistently reaffirmed the fundamental right to abortion while also allowing new limits on a woman’s ability to obtain one.

    The current U.S. Supreme Court standard holds that states may prohibit abortion after fetal viability so long as there are exceptions for the life and health (both physical and mental) of the woman. Under this legal standard, viability—which can range from 24 to 28 weeks after the start of the woman’s last menstrual period (LMP) —must be determined on an individual basis, and determinations of both fetal viability and the woman’s health are at the discretion of the patient’s physician….more than a third of states have successfully implemented what are termed “20-week abortion bans.” These bans are based on the unfounded assertion that a fetus can feel pain at 20 weeks postfertilization (an estimated date of conception), equivalent to 22 weeks LMP.”
    State Bans on Abortion Throughout Pregnancy




    Case closed? Hardly.

    “Honest pro-choicers admit Roe v. Wade was a horrible decision”
    Honest pro-choicers admit Roe v. Wade was a horrible decision




    The claim by this political….read ‘Leftist’….court that the Constitution covers this issue is bogus, there is no such ‘right to privacy’…..or a citizen could claim same when he buys a gun from the neighborhood thug.

    Liberals/Democrats have made clear that killing innocent human beings is not beneath them.
    It appears, nothing is beneath them.

    Not legal, not moral, not science.
     
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    A human fetus is a human being.
     
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    Dumb remark? Yes. True intentions? Yes.
     
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    And, of course, it is not just one 'Democrat making a dumb remark'.....

    It is all of them supporting same:


    "New York abortion law changes allow infanticide"
    New York abortion law changes allow infanticide

    "Anti-infanticide bill blocked by Senate Democrats"
    Senate Democrats block Republicans’ anti-infanticide bill
     
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    Law? No.
     

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