The politics of mass public shootings....

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In 2022 there were 12 mass public shootings....an individual going to a public place and murdering people as their sole intent.

Different from gang shootings that you see every day in democrat party controlled cities across the country.

12 people out of over 350 million people.

Total murdered 74

Deer kill 200 people a year

Ladders kill 300 people a year.

Generally, there are about 10,000 gun murders in the United States each year, in 2022 there were 19,000


Why the increase...in 2015, the democrat party decided to declare war on the police, and to begin a process of releasing the most violent, repeat gun offenders over and over again.

Why attack the police?

The rank and file police officer tends to be republican and conservative....so it is obvious that they and their power to help republicans had to be broken...the democrats have spent the last 8 years doing this.......

In doing this......the police, to protect themselves and their families have stopped doing their jobs......so criminals have been given free reign in democrat controlled cities, and other cities as the police know that the democrats can reach into those cities with their minions....

Add to this the decision of democrat party prosecutors to release violent gun offenders over and over again.........

That is how you increase the gun murder rate to 19,000, up from the usual 10,000

So now the democrats have a problem....they can't exploit those 19,000 gun murders......

Why?

1) They take place in democrat party controlled cities.

2) Those democrat party controlled cities have extreme gun control

3) Those gun murders in those democrat party controlled cities are committed primarily by minorities.......

So it becomes inconvenient to democrats to exploit those shootings......

So.......you have 12 nuts out of 350 million Americans who use guns illegally to murder 74 people.....

74 people out of 19,000.......

Democrats want to ban guns.....but the primary drivers of gun murder in the country are groups the democrat party can't offend.......so they use mass public shootings, and lie about them, using gang shootings by minority gangs to inflate the 12 shootings that are actual mass public shootings, into the hundreds......

This allows them to call for banning guns, and not offend the minorities in the democrat party.....

US mass shootings, 1982–2023: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

Dating back to at least 2005, the FBI and leading criminologists essentially defined a mass shooting as a single attack in a public place in which four or more victims were killed. We adopted that baseline for fatalities when we gathered data in 2012 on three decades worth of cases.
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  • Here is a description of the criteria we use:
    • The perpetrator took the lives of at least four people. A 2008 FBI report identifies an individual as a mass murderer—versus a spree killer or a serial killer—if he kills four or more people in a single incident (not including himself), typically in a single location. (*In 2013, the US government’s fatality baseline was revised down to three; our database reflects this change beginning from Jan. 2013, as detailed above.)
    • The killings were carried out by a lone shooter. (Except in the case of the Columbine massacre and the Westside Middle School killings, which involved two shooters.)
    • The shootings occurred in a public place. (Except in the case of a party on private property in Crandon, Wisconsin, and another in Seattle, where crowds of strangers had gathered, essentially constituting a public crowd.) Crimes primarily related to gang activity or armed robbery are not included, nor are mass killings that took place in private homes (often stemming from domestic violence).
    • Perpetrators who died or were wounded during the attack are not included in the victim tallies.
    • We included a handful of cases also known as “spree killings“—cases in which the killings occurred in more than one location, but still over a short period of time, that otherwise fit the above criteria.
    ----------------------
Our research focused on indiscriminate rampages in public places resulting in four or more victims killed by the attacker. We exclude shootings stemming from more conventionally motivated crimes such as armed robbery or gang violence. (Or in which the perpetrators have not been identified.) Other news outlets and researchers have since published larger tallies that include a wide range of gun crimes in which four or more people have been either wounded or killed. While those larger datasets of multiple-victim shootings are useful for studying the broader problem of gun violence, our investigation provides an in-depth look at a distinct phenomenon—from the firearms used and mental health factors to the growing copycat problem. Tracking mass shootings is complex; we believe ours is the most useful approach for studying this specific phenomenon.



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The actual number of mass shootings from Mother Jones......

Here you go...the number of mass public shootings according to Mother Jones...rabid, anti gun, left wing news source.....not the NRA...

The list below comes from the old definition of 4 killed to make a shooting a mass shooting...if you now go to the link there are more than listed below...but that is because Mother Jones changed the list from the time I first posted it...and changed to obama's new standard of only 3 dead to make a mass shooting...



US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation


2022...12

2021...6

2020....2

2019....10

2018... 12

2017: 11 ( 5 according to the old standard)

2016....6

2015....4 ( obama's new standard....7)

2014....2 (4)

2013....5

2012....7

2011....3

2010....1

2009....4

2008....3

2007....4

2006....3

2005...2

2004....1

2003...1

2002 not listed so more than likely 0

2001....1

2000....1

1999....5

1998...3

1997....2

1996....1

1995...1

1994...1

1993...4

1992...2

1991...3

1990...1

1989...2

1988....1

1987...1

1986...1

1985... not listed so probably 0

1984...2

1983...not listed so probably 0

1982...1


US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation


Deer kill 200 people a year.....

Lawn mowers between 90-100 people a year....

Ladders 300 people a year....

bathtubs 350 people a year...

Cars killed over 39,000 people in 2019...



Total number of people killed in mass public shootings by year...


2022....74

2021...43
2020....5
2019....73
2018.....93
2017........117
2016......71
2015......37
2014..... 9
2013..... 36
2012..... 72
2011..... 19
2010....9
2009...39
2008...18
2007...54
2006...21
2005...17
2004...5
2003...7
2002...not listed by mother jones
2001...5
2000...7
1999...42
1998...14
1997...9
1996...6
1995...6
1994....5
1993...23
1992...9
1991...35
1990...10
1989...15
1988...7
1987...6
1986...15
1985...(none listed)
1984...28
1983 (none listed)
1982...8

Total number of mass public shootings by year....
 
In 2022, America experienced 647 mass shootings.



Nope....not even close....

12

US mass shootings, 1982–2023: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

Dating back to at least 2005, the FBI and leading criminologists essentially defined a mass shooting as a single attack in a public place in which four or more victims were killed. We adopted that baseline for fatalities when we gathered data in 2012 on three decades worth of cases.
-------

  • Here is a description of the criteria we use:
    • The perpetrator took the lives of at least four people. A 2008 FBI report identifies an individual as a mass murderer—versus a spree killer or a serial killer—if he kills four or more people in a single incident (not including himself), typically in a single location. (*In 2013, the US government’s fatality baseline was revised down to three; our database reflects this change beginning from Jan. 2013, as detailed above.)
    • The killings were carried out by a lone shooter. (Except in the case of the Columbine massacre and the Westside Middle School killings, which involved two shooters.)
    • The shootings occurred in a public place. (Except in the case of a party on private property in Crandon, Wisconsin, and another in Seattle, where crowds of strangers had gathered, essentially constituting a public crowd.) Crimes primarily related to gang activity or armed robbery are not included, nor are mass killings that took place in private homes (often stemming from domestic violence).
    • Perpetrators who died or were wounded during the attack are not included in the victim tallies.
    • We included a handful of cases also known as “spree killings“—cases in which the killings occurred in more than one location, but still over a short period of time, that otherwise fit the above criteria.
    ----------------------
Our research focused on indiscriminate rampages in public places resulting in four or more victims killed by the attacker. We exclude shootings stemming from more conventionally motivated crimes such as armed robbery or gang violence. (Or in which the perpetrators have not been identified.) Other news outlets and researchers have since published larger tallies that include a wide range of gun crimes in which four or more people have been either wounded or killed. While those larger datasets of multiple-victim shootings are useful for studying the broader problem of gun violence, our investigation provides an in-depth look at a distinct phenomenon—from the firearms used and mental health factors to the growing copycat problem. Tracking mass shootings is complex; we believe ours is the most useful approach for studying this specific phenomenon.



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The actual number of mass shootings from Mother Jones......

Here you go...the number of mass public shootings according to Mother Jones...rabid, anti gun, left wing news source.....not the NRA...

The list below comes from the old definition of 4 killed to make a shooting a mass shooting...if you now go to the link there are more than listed below...but that is because Mother Jones changed the list from the time I first posted it...and changed to obama's new standard of only 3 dead to make a mass shooting...



US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation


2022...12

2021...6

2020....2

2019....10

2018... 12

2017: 11 ( 5 according to the old standard)

2016....6

2015....4 ( obama's new standard....7)

2014....2 (4)

2013....5

2012....7

2011....3

2010....1

2009....4

2008....3

2007....4

2006....3

2005...2

2004....1

2003...1

2002 not listed so more than likely 0

2001....1

2000....1

1999....5

1998...3

1997....2

1996....1

1995...1

1994...1

1993...4

1992...2

1991...3

1990...1

1989...2

1988....1

1987...1

1986...1

1985... not listed so probably 0

1984...2

1983...not listed so probably 0

1982...1


US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation


Deer kill 200 people a year.....

Lawn mowers between 90-100 people a year....

Ladders 300 people a year....

bathtubs 350 people a year...

Cars killed over 39,000 people in 2019...



Total number of people killed in mass public shootings by year...


2022....74

2021...43
2020....5
2019....73
2018.....93
2017........117
2016......71
2015......37
2014..... 9
2013..... 36
2012..... 72
2011..... 19
2010....9
2009...39
2008...18
2007...54
2006...21
2005...17
2004...5
2003...7
2002...not listed by mother jones
2001...5
2000...7
1999...42
1998...14
1997...9
1996...6
1995...6
1994....5
1993...23
1992...9
1991...35
1990...10
1989...15
1988...7
1987...6
1986...15
1985...(none listed)
1984...28
1983 (none listed)
1982...8

Total number of mass public shootings by year....
 
In 2022 there were 12 mass public shootings....an individual going to a public place and murdering people as their sole intent.

Different from gang shootings that you see every day in democrat party controlled cities across the country.

12 people out of over 350 million people.

Total murdered 74

Deer kill 200 people a year

Ladders kill 300 people a year.

Generally, there are about 10,000 gun murders in the United States each year, in 2022 there were 19,000


Why the increase...in 2015, the democrat party decided to declare war on the police, and to begin a process of releasing the most violent, repeat gun offenders over and over again.

Why attack the police?

The rank and file police officer tends to be republican and conservative....so it is obvious that they and their power to help republicans had to be broken...the democrats have spent the last 8 years doing this.......

In doing this......the police, to protect themselves and their families have stopped doing their jobs......so criminals have been given free reign in democrat controlled cities, and other cities as the police know that the democrats can reach into those cities with their minions....

Add to this the decision of democrat party prosecutors to release violent gun offenders over and over again.........

That is how you increase the gun murder rate to 19,000, up from the usual 10,000

So now the democrats have a problem....they can't exploit those 19,000 gun murders......

Why?

1) They take place in democrat party controlled cities.

2) Those democrat party controlled cities have extreme gun control

3) Those gun murders in those democrat party controlled cities are committed primarily by minorities.......

So it becomes inconvenient to democrats to exploit those shootings......

So.......you have 12 nuts out of 350 million Americans who use guns illegally to murder 74 people.....

74 people out of 19,000.......

Democrats want to ban guns.....but the primary drivers of gun murder in the country are groups the democrat party can't offend.......so they use mass public shootings, and lie about them, using gang shootings by minority gangs to inflate the 12 shootings that are actual mass public shootings, into the hundreds......

This allows them to call for banning guns, and not offend the minorities in the democrat party.....

US mass shootings, 1982–2023: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

Dating back to at least 2005, the FBI and leading criminologists essentially defined a mass shooting as a single attack in a public place in which four or more victims were killed. We adopted that baseline for fatalities when we gathered data in 2012 on three decades worth of cases.
-------

  • Here is a description of the criteria we use:
    • The perpetrator took the lives of at least four people. A 2008 FBI report identifies an individual as a mass murderer—versus a spree killer or a serial killer—if he kills four or more people in a single incident (not including himself), typically in a single location. (*In 2013, the US government’s fatality baseline was revised down to three; our database reflects this change beginning from Jan. 2013, as detailed above.)
    • The killings were carried out by a lone shooter. (Except in the case of the Columbine massacre and the Westside Middle School killings, which involved two shooters.)
    • The shootings occurred in a public place. (Except in the case of a party on private property in Crandon, Wisconsin, and another in Seattle, where crowds of strangers had gathered, essentially constituting a public crowd.) Crimes primarily related to gang activity or armed robbery are not included, nor are mass killings that took place in private homes (often stemming from domestic violence).
    • Perpetrators who died or were wounded during the attack are not included in the victim tallies.
    • We included a handful of cases also known as “spree killings“—cases in which the killings occurred in more than one location, but still over a short period of time, that otherwise fit the above criteria.
    ----------------------
Our research focused on indiscriminate rampages in public places resulting in four or more victims killed by the attacker. We exclude shootings stemming from more conventionally motivated crimes such as armed robbery or gang violence. (Or in which the perpetrators have not been identified.) Other news outlets and researchers have since published larger tallies that include a wide range of gun crimes in which four or more people have been either wounded or killed. While those larger datasets of multiple-victim shootings are useful for studying the broader problem of gun violence, our investigation provides an in-depth look at a distinct phenomenon—from the firearms used and mental health factors to the growing copycat problem. Tracking mass shootings is complex; we believe ours is the most useful approach for studying this specific phenomenon.



---------
The actual number of mass shootings from Mother Jones......

Here you go...the number of mass public shootings according to Mother Jones...rabid, anti gun, left wing news source.....not the NRA...

The list below comes from the old definition of 4 killed to make a shooting a mass shooting...if you now go to the link there are more than listed below...but that is because Mother Jones changed the list from the time I first posted it...and changed to obama's new standard of only 3 dead to make a mass shooting...



US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation


2022...12

2021...6

2020....2

2019....10

2018... 12

2017: 11 ( 5 according to the old standard)

2016....6

2015....4 ( obama's new standard....7)

2014....2 (4)

2013....5

2012....7

2011....3

2010....1

2009....4

2008....3

2007....4

2006....3

2005...2

2004....1

2003...1

2002 not listed so more than likely 0

2001....1

2000....1

1999....5

1998...3

1997....2

1996....1

1995...1

1994...1

1993...4

1992...2

1991...3

1990...1

1989...2

1988....1

1987...1

1986...1

1985... not listed so probably 0

1984...2

1983...not listed so probably 0

1982...1


US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation


Deer kill 200 people a year.....

Lawn mowers between 90-100 people a year....

Ladders 300 people a year....

bathtubs 350 people a year...

Cars killed over 39,000 people in 2019...




Total number of people killed in mass public shootings by year...


2022....74

2021...43
2020....5
2019....73
2018.....93
2017........117
2016......71
2015......37
2014..... 9
2013..... 36
2012..... 72
2011..... 19
2010....9
2009...39
2008...18
2007...54
2006...21
2005...17
2004...5
2003...7
2002...not listed by mother jones
2001...5
2000...7
1999...42
1998...14
1997...9
1996...6
1995...6
1994....5
1993...23
1992...9
1991...35
1990...10
1989...15
1988...7
1987...6
1986...15
1985...(none listed)
1984...28
1983 (none listed)
1982...8

Total number of mass public shootings by year....
As always, your cut and paste skills are exemplary. You seem to think shooting up a church, or a school, or a bank, or, or, or, is no big deal. and doesn't really matter when you consider all the other ways people die. Virtually every other person in the country disagrees with you, and believes you are either heartless or nuts. I personally believe you are both.
 
As always, your cut and paste skills are exemplary. You seem to think shooting up a church, or a school, or a bank, or, or, or, is no big deal. and doesn't really matter when you consider all the other ways people die. Virtually every other person in the country disagrees with you, and believes you are either heartless or nuts. I personally believe you are both.


No.....what I think is that since actual mass public shootings are so rare, 12 times in 2022.....that means 12 people out of over 350 million.....you guys can't use that to exploit the emotions of uninformed Americans....but at the same time, since your policies of destroying the police and releasing repeat gun criminals....over and over and over again.......are the cause of the increase to 19,000 gun murders in 2022.....you are in a bind....

So what do you do.....

You lie.....you mix the 12 actual mass public shootings with the gang shootings in democrat party controlled cities......and call all of them mass public shootings....in order to get uninformed, unaware people to give you more power...

You don't care about the 10s of thousands of dead black teens and men..........you know you have the votes of their families locked up........and you can't talk about those gun murders because the ones doing the shooting are minorities......so...you lie, and pretend the random stranger shooting at people in a public place....12 people doing this in 2022....is the problem....as opposed to the democrat party causing these gun murders........the 19,000 gun murders.......
 
No.....what I think is that since actual mass public shootings are so rare, 12 times in 2022.....that means 12 people out of over 350 million.....you guys can't use that to exploit the emotions of uninformed Americans....but at the same time, since your policies of destroying the police and releasing repeat gun criminals....over and over and over again.......are the cause of the increase to 19,000 gun murders in 2022.....you are in a bind....

So what do you do.....

You lie.....you mix the 12 actual mass public shootings with the gang shootings in democrat party controlled cities......and call all of them mass public shootings....in order to get uninformed, unaware people to give you more power...

You don't care about the 10s of thousands of dead black teens and men..........you know you have the votes of their families locked up........and you can't talk about those gun murders because the ones doing the shooting are minorities......so...you lie, and pretend the random stranger shooting at people in a public place....12 people doing this in 2022....is the problem....as opposed to the democrat party causing these gun murders........the 19,000 gun murders.......
Got it. You don't care about mass shootings, so you think it's unfair that others do. You have every right to think that even if it is one of the dumbest things that a human could possibly think.
 
Got it. You don't care about mass shootings, so you think it's unfair that others do. You have every right to think that even if it is one of the dumbest things that a human could possibly think.


No....I have actually given solutions to the rare mass public shootings...but since those solutions actually save lives, you guys don't want them....you need dead kids so that you can use them as emotional black mail against uninformed Americans...

You want and need dead children.....the ones from mass public shootings, since you can't exploit the dead black children in democrat party controlled cities.....
 
No....I have actually given solutions to the rare mass public shootings...but since those solutions actually save lives, you guys don't want them....you need dead kids so that you can use them as emotional black mail against uninformed Americans...

You want and need dead children.....the ones from mass public shootings, since you can't exploit the dead black children in democrat party controlled cities.....
Think about that for a minute. You just claimed I want and need dead children. Don't you ever feel ashamed for the absurd crap you spout here? Get a grip man.
 
Thanks to OP for pointing this out. I tell people all the time that these mass public shooting events are statistically insignificant within the total universe of gun violence. Most gun deaths are suicides. Most gun violence is committed with handguns. And by "most" I mean the vast majority of gun violence incidents. AR and other rifles are rarely involved. BUT, the AR is THE most popular rifled in the USA. Thus, if you wanted to disarm the citizens of the USA, then the AR rifles have to be your first choice of target for elimination.

Does my inconvenience of having to give up my ARs and AKs outweigh the lives of victims of gun violence? Fuck yeah it does!!! There is absolutely no rational relationship between gun violence and the ownership of AR rifles by law abiding citizens. To use arbitrary numbers to demonstrate my point, it is unreasonable (and unconstitutional) to take away something that 1 million people handle responsibly in an effort to prevent 3-4 people from using it to hurt someone. That is essentially what we are talking about with banning AR rifles. Doing so will not stop gun violence of any sort. It is unreasonable, unduly burdensome, and not reasonably calculated to lead to the end result desired. In other words, it is unconstitutional (independent of the Second Amendment).
 
Thanks to OP for pointing this out. I tell people all the time that these mass public shooting events are statistically insignificant within the total universe of gun violence. Most gun deaths are suicides. Most gun violence is committed with handguns. And by "most" I mean the vast majority of gun violence incidents. AR and other rifles are rarely involved. BUT, the AR is THE most popular rifled in the USA. Thus, if you wanted to disarm the citizens of the USA, then the AR rifles have to be your first choice of target for elimination.

Does my inconvenience of having to give up my ARs and AKs outweigh the lives of victims of gun violence? Fuck yeah it does!!! There is absolutely no rational relationship between gun violence and the ownership of AR rifles by law abiding citizens. To use arbitrary numbers to demonstrate my point, it is unreasonable (and unconstitutional) to take away something that 1 million people handle responsibly in an effort to prevent 3-4 people from using it to hurt someone. That is essentially what we are talking about with banning AR rifles. Doing so will not stop gun violence of any sort. It is unreasonable, unduly burdensome, and not reasonably calculated to lead to the end result desired. In other words, it is unconstitutional (independent of the Second Amendment).
Ok. that makes two on the list of people who don't think mass shootings are anything to be concerned about.
 
Think about that for a minute. You just claimed I want and need dead children. Don't you ever feel ashamed for the absurd crap you spout here? Get a grip man.

You fight against the solutions to mass public shootings so yeah... you need dead kida to oush gun control
 
Got it. You don't care about mass shootings, so you think it's unfair that others do.

So many on the Left only seem to care about about mass shootings and no other gun violence or even crime in general. And if the shooter is black and/or not using an assault type weapon then the story soon vanishes from the news. One guy gets shot by the cops, especially a white cop, and it's front page stuff forever. But what about the hundreds of murders across the country, with or without guns, that the Left doesn't care about? It's ludicrous to focus on banning the purchase of assault type weapons when there are already 20-30 million of them out there across the country. But instead the Left cries about social justice and let's criminals out of prison early or doesn't put them in prison in the 1st place. There should be laws everywhere that add time to the sentence of a convicted criminal if he/she used a gun in the commission of a crime, no exceptions for social justice reasons. No parole, regardless of circumstances.
 
So many on the Left only seem to care about about mass shootings and no other gun violence or even crime in general. And if the shooter is black and/or not using an assault type weapon then the story soon vanishes from the news. One guy gets shot by the cops, especially a white cop, and it's front page stuff forever. But what about the hundreds of murders across the country, with or without guns, that the Left doesn't care about? It's ludicrous to focus on banning the purchase of assault type weapons when there are already 20-30 million of them out there across the country. But instead the Left cries about social justice and let's criminals out of prison early or doesn't put them in prison in the 1st place. There should be laws everywhere that add time to the sentence of a convicted criminal if he/she used a gun in the commission of a crime, no exceptions for social justice reasons. No parole, regardless of circumstances.
So you think we should only concentrate on the one most common form of death, excluding all others until that is solved, and then move on to the next highest on the list, right? Evidently, you don't think we should be concerned with more than one cause at the time, and you are the one designated to decide what that is.
 
How ever you want to count dead people,
Making it political seems your choice.
What ever anyone thinks, when Children became a target choice, I moved my thinking.
Every child in every school had some trauma, big or little, that will effect their life.
Those who put lots of effort in placing blame on ANY political party,
rather than wonder how we could have gotten to the Hate filled mess we deal with now.
 
Ok. that makes two on the list of people who don't think mass shootings are anything to be concerned about.
I am not unconcerned. All the changes being pimped by the Democrats will not work, and it is unduly prejudicial to or Second Amendment rights to restrict them based upon mere feel-good policy.

Do you want to know what will stop the mass shootings at schools and public places? I will tell you what will stop it. They will stop when the people in the crowds start shooting back at the little twerps doing it. They are all essentially chickenshit cowards who are mentally anguished because nobody wants to touch their dicks (real and pretend). Imagine the gall it takes to shoot unarmed, innocent people just strolling through their days. It is sick. But you do not stop it by taking everybody's fucking guns from them. You stop it by arming yourselves and shooting back at these creeps. If they know they will be facing death as a result, then they will be less likely to do it. Even if they have a death wish, having an armed populace will stop it before it gets good and going.

Fight fire with fire, and lead with lead. Goddamn, my dick is hard right now!!
 
So many on the Left only seem to care about about mass shootings and no other gun violence or even crime in general. And if the shooter is black and/or not using an assault type weapon then the story soon vanishes from the news. One guy gets shot by the cops, especially a white cop, and it's front page stuff forever. But what about the hundreds of murders across the country, with or without guns, that the Left doesn't care about? It's ludicrous to focus on banning the purchase of assault type weapons when there are already 20-30 million of them out there across the country. But instead the Left cries about social justice and let's criminals out of prison early or doesn't put them in prison in the 1st place. There should be laws everywhere that add time to the sentence of a convicted criminal if he/she used a gun in the commission of a crime, no exceptions for social justice reasons. No parole, regardless of circumstances.


Which is why I made this thread...to highlight the democrats and how they just don't care about children, in school shootings or in democrat party controlled cities...they just care that dead children give them emotional black mail over uninformed people..
 

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