The Man Who Could Have Changed History

[bigrebnc1775]

I disagree, but strongly believe we have seen the last black Progressive Democrat to be elected president at least through my child's lifetime.

I don't know about all that. Boomers are losing about 4000 people a day now.

those democrat freshmen congressmen are doing a stand-up job for Republicans wouldn't you agree?

They are the equivalent of the Tea Tards

Only difference is Democrats do not take them seriously

President bill clinton? why was he beating the war drum?
why were democrats doing it?

Didn’t see Clinton start a war

His intel was given to Bush

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Today, Powell is despised by the Republican Party

Far too decent. Look what they elected.

And Canada who cares?

 

[rightwinger]

I don't know about all that. Boomers are losing about 4000 people a day now.

those democrat freshmen congressmen are doing a stand-up job for Republicans wouldn't you agree?

They are the equivalent of the Tea Tards

Only difference is Democrats do not take them seriously

President bill clinton? why was he beating the war drum?
why were democrats doing it?

Didn’t see Clinton start a war

His intel was given to Bush

Bush was the only moron who started a war over that intelligence

Clinton contained Saddam for eight years
Bush didn’t last two years without invading

 

[2aguy]

One man could have changed the course of history, and he had the opportunity to do so handed to him on a silver platter, free for the taking. Who is that man; Can you guess?

He was a professional soldier for 35 years, holding a variety of command and staff positions and rising to the rank of General. He was Ronald Reagan's National Security Advisor, serving from 1987 to 1989 while retaining his Army commission as a lieutenant general. In April 1989, after his tenure with the National Security Council, Powell was promoted to four-star general under President George H. W. Bush and briefly served as the Commander in Chief, Forces Command (FORSCOM), overseeing all Army, Army Reserve, and National Guard units in the Continental U.S., Alaska, Hawaii, and Puerto Rico. He became the third general since World War II to reach four-star rank without ever serving as a division commander, joining Dwight D. Eisenhower and Alexander Haig. Later he was selected him as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. He ascended from chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff during the elder Bush's administration to secretary of state under his son. That man is Colin Powell

For a time, that looked quite possible that he would run for president and win. Through 1995 there was hope that Powell would run for president. He led in polls of Republican primary voters. The same surveys suggested he was capable of beating President Bill Clinton. Powell could have been elected in 1996. The first black president of the United States being a Republican would have been a significant development, one that might have mitigated, if not averted, the ugly racialization of our politics. Powell would have been a moderate not too strongly associated with the left or the right, likely allowing him to assemble an electoral coalition unlike anything we can imagine today. As a Republican and the first black president, and the winner of the Gulf War, the newly minted Republican congress would have given him anything he wanted. The internet boom would have happened anyway; perhaps Powell's policies would have been even more pro-growth than second-term Clinton's.

Sadly, Powell did not run. Instead, the GOP had the sad farewell tour masquerading as a presidential campaign embarked upon by the otherwise heroic Bob Dole. A good man, but he had no chance of beating Bill Clinton, and Clinton won his second term.

A President Powell might have returned us to the era of good feelings under Reagan. A booming economy, a popular president backed by independents, no Whitewater investigations, no Monica Lewinsky, no impeachment. And maybe only one President Bush?

If 9/11 had happened under a President Powell's, the US might have been less likely to respond by waging a second war in Iraq. Our response to 9/11 may well have been limited to hitting Afghanistan, keeping the international coalition against terrorism intact under a president who had been part of winning a war.

If you look at the past 20-plus years of American politics — the Clinton embarrassments (and later the Hillary embarrassments), the Bush-Cheney wars, the horrible reign of Barack Obama — wouldn't you have wanted to avoid a lot of it? Hindsight is 20-20, but Powell looks like he might have been our best bet for doing so.

Author: Me.

Powell was a closet democrat.....we need real conservatives in office, not fake ones.

 

[Terri4Trump]

Sorry, but Powell supported Barack Hussein because you know, skin color.

Powell in later years has certainly been a disappointment.
But if the first black president had been a Republican, and the Clinton years wiped out and there was never an Obama, what would things look like today? This is what I wonder about.

 

[theHawk]

those democrat freshmen congressmen are doing a stand-up job for Republicans wouldn't you agree?

They are the equivalent of the Tea Tards

Only difference is Democrats do not take them seriously

President bill clinton? why was he beating the war drum?
why were democrats doing it?

Didn’t see Clinton start a war

His intel was given to Bush

Bush was the only moron who started a war over that intelligence

Clinton contained Saddam for eight years
Bush didn’t last two years without invading

And the Hussein starting wars in Libya and Syria over nothing.

 

[rightwinger]

Sorry, but Powell supported Barack Hussein because you know, skin color.

Powell in later years has certainly been a disappointment.
But if the first black president had been a Republican, and the Clinton years wiped out and there was never an Obama, what would things look like today? This is what I wonder about.

Republicans do not vote for black people

They just don’t

 

[rightwinger]

They are the equivalent of the Tea Tards

Only difference is Democrats do not take them seriously

President bill clinton? why was he beating the war drum?
why were democrats doing it?

Didn’t see Clinton start a war

His intel was given to Bush

Bush was the only moron who started a war over that intelligence

Clinton contained Saddam for eight years
Bush didn’t last two years without invading

And the Hussein starting wars in Libya and Syria over nothing.

What war did he start?

 

[rightwinger]

One man could have changed the course of history, and he had the opportunity to do so handed to him on a silver platter, free for the taking. Who is that man; Can you guess?

He was a professional soldier for 35 years, holding a variety of command and staff positions and rising to the rank of General. He was Ronald Reagan's National Security Advisor, serving from 1987 to 1989 while retaining his Army commission as a lieutenant general. In April 1989, after his tenure with the National Security Council, Powell was promoted to four-star general under President George H. W. Bush and briefly served as the Commander in Chief, Forces Command (FORSCOM), overseeing all Army, Army Reserve, and National Guard units in the Continental U.S., Alaska, Hawaii, and Puerto Rico. He became the third general since World War II to reach four-star rank without ever serving as a division commander, joining Dwight D. Eisenhower and Alexander Haig. Later he was selected him as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. He ascended from chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff during the elder Bush's administration to secretary of state under his son. That man is Colin Powell

For a time, that looked quite possible that he would run for president and win. Through 1995 there was hope that Powell would run for president. He led in polls of Republican primary voters. The same surveys suggested he was capable of beating President Bill Clinton. Powell could have been elected in 1996. The first black president of the United States being a Republican would have been a significant development, one that might have mitigated, if not averted, the ugly racialization of our politics. Powell would have been a moderate not too strongly associated with the left or the right, likely allowing him to assemble an electoral coalition unlike anything we can imagine today. As a Republican and the first black president, and the winner of the Gulf War, the newly minted Republican congress would have given him anything he wanted. The internet boom would have happened anyway; perhaps Powell's policies would have been even more pro-growth than second-term Clinton's.

Sadly, Powell did not run. Instead, the GOP had the sad farewell tour masquerading as a presidential campaign embarked upon by the otherwise heroic Bob Dole. A good man, but he had no chance of beating Bill Clinton, and Clinton won his second term.

A President Powell might have returned us to the era of good feelings under Reagan. A booming economy, a popular president backed by independents, no Whitewater investigations, no Monica Lewinsky, no impeachment. And maybe only one President Bush?

If 9/11 had happened under a President Powell's, the US might have been less likely to respond by waging a second war in Iraq. Our response to 9/11 may well have been limited to hitting Afghanistan, keeping the international coalition against terrorism intact under a president who had been part of winning a war.

If you look at the past 20-plus years of American politics — the Clinton embarrassments (and later the Hillary embarrassments), the Bush-Cheney wars, the horrible reign of Barack Obama — wouldn't you have wanted to avoid a lot of it? Hindsight is 20-20, but Powell looks like he might have been our best bet for doing so.

Author: Me.

Powell was a closet democrat.....we need real conservatives in office, not fake ones.

And you think Trump is a real Conservative or just telling you want to hear?

 

[theHawk]

President bill clinton? why was he beating the war drum?
why were democrats doing it?

Didn’t see Clinton start a war

His intel was given to Bush

Bush was the only moron who started a war over that intelligence

Clinton contained Saddam for eight years
Bush didn’t last two years without invading

And the Hussein starting wars in Libya and Syria over nothing.

What war did he start?

He supported the ISIS overthrowing the governments of those countries.

You forget how he let Benghazi happen and the famous “red line”?

 

[Mac1958]

There are no far-right white supremacists in the party, you stupid sack of shit. Don't gum up the thread with your moronic ignorance.

.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Well, it would be one way to unload the far-right white supremacists from the party, wouldn't it?

There are no far-right white supremacists in the party, you stupid sack of shit. Don't gum up the thread with your moronic ignorance.

of course there are. except for stephen miller, they may not be in the administration anymore , but they are still there & whispering in donny's cheeto dusted ear.

steve bannon & gorka come to mind right quick. & when you hafta resort to name calling right outa the gate to defend yerself, that shows quite the mental defect on yer part.

Trump hates Bannon.

Show proof that Gorka is an alt right racist as you claim.

you think because steve bannon is 'hated' by trump, that donny doesn't approve of what he's doing since he left the administration ( not because of trump, but of bad PR)?
silly you.

as for gorka...

Sebastian Gorka, Trump’s most controversial national security aide, is out

A Nazi-linked group was "proud" after Trump aide wore its medal

why would he sport a pin from vitezi rend? 'cause it looked good?

At best it is circumstantial. In a court of law no chance you prove he is a white supremacist as you allege. Trumps daughter and three grandchildren are Jewish as am I. Hence I abhor white supremacists as does he. Vox is a biased Leftist publication.

 

[2aguy]

One man could have changed the course of history, and he had the opportunity to do so handed to him on a silver platter, free for the taking. Who is that man; Can you guess?

He was a professional soldier for 35 years, holding a variety of command and staff positions and rising to the rank of General. He was Ronald Reagan's National Security Advisor, serving from 1987 to 1989 while retaining his Army commission as a lieutenant general. In April 1989, after his tenure with the National Security Council, Powell was promoted to four-star general under President George H. W. Bush and briefly served as the Commander in Chief, Forces Command (FORSCOM), overseeing all Army, Army Reserve, and National Guard units in the Continental U.S., Alaska, Hawaii, and Puerto Rico. He became the third general since World War II to reach four-star rank without ever serving as a division commander, joining Dwight D. Eisenhower and Alexander Haig. Later he was selected him as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. He ascended from chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff during the elder Bush's administration to secretary of state under his son. That man is Colin Powell

For a time, that looked quite possible that he would run for president and win. Through 1995 there was hope that Powell would run for president. He led in polls of Republican primary voters. The same surveys suggested he was capable of beating President Bill Clinton. Powell could have been elected in 1996. The first black president of the United States being a Republican would have been a significant development, one that might have mitigated, if not averted, the ugly racialization of our politics. Powell would have been a moderate not too strongly associated with the left or the right, likely allowing him to assemble an electoral coalition unlike anything we can imagine today. As a Republican and the first black president, and the winner of the Gulf War, the newly minted Republican congress would have given him anything he wanted. The internet boom would have happened anyway; perhaps Powell's policies would have been even more pro-growth than second-term Clinton's.

Sadly, Powell did not run. Instead, the GOP had the sad farewell tour masquerading as a presidential campaign embarked upon by the otherwise heroic Bob Dole. A good man, but he had no chance of beating Bill Clinton, and Clinton won his second term.

A President Powell might have returned us to the era of good feelings under Reagan. A booming economy, a popular president backed by independents, no Whitewater investigations, no Monica Lewinsky, no impeachment. And maybe only one President Bush?

If 9/11 had happened under a President Powell's, the US might have been less likely to respond by waging a second war in Iraq. Our response to 9/11 may well have been limited to hitting Afghanistan, keeping the international coalition against terrorism intact under a president who had been part of winning a war.

If you look at the past 20-plus years of American politics — the Clinton embarrassments (and later the Hillary embarrassments), the Bush-Cheney wars, the horrible reign of Barack Obama — wouldn't you have wanted to avoid a lot of it? Hindsight is 20-20, but Powell looks like he might have been our best bet for doing so.

Author: Me.

Powell was a closet democrat.....we need real conservatives in office, not fake ones.

And you think Trump is a real Conservative or just telling you want to hear?

Trump isn't anything....he works on problems he is interested in....and so far, that is fixing the economy, the military, and putting real judges on the bench.....and so far, those are being solved with conservative solutions....

 

[rightwinger]

Didn’t see Clinton start a war

His intel was given to Bush

Bush was the only moron who started a war over that intelligence

Clinton contained Saddam for eight years
Bush didn’t last two years without invading

And the Hussein starting wars in Libya and Syria over nothing.

What war did he start?

He supported the ISIS overthrowing the governments of those countries.

You forget how he let Benghazi happen and the famous “red line”?

Actually, he didn’t

What else ya got?

 

[Frankeneinstein]

I would have voted for him. He seemed like a truly decent man, which is probably why he refused to run.

^this^

 

[bigrebnc1775]

His intel was given to Bush

Bush was the only moron who started a war over that intelligence

Clinton contained Saddam for eight years
Bush didn’t last two years without invading

And the Hussein starting wars in Libya and Syria over nothing.

What war did he start?

He supported the ISIS overthrowing the governments of those countries.

You forget how he let Benghazi happen and the famous “red line”?

Actually, he didn’t

What else ya got?

Flag on the play unnecessary lying and roughing the facts

 

[rightwinger]

Bush was the only moron who started a war over that intelligence

Clinton contained Saddam for eight years
Bush didn’t last two years without invading

And the Hussein starting wars in Libya and Syria over nothing.

What war did he start?

He supported the ISIS overthrowing the governments of those countries.

You forget how he let Benghazi happen and the famous “red line”?

Actually, he didn’t

What else ya got?

Flag on the play unnecessary lying and roughing the facts

Libya and Syria were civil wars not started by Obama

You Fail

 

[bigrebnc1775]

And the Hussein starting wars in Libya and Syria over nothing.

What war did he start?

He supported the ISIS overthrowing the governments of those countries.

You forget how he let Benghazi happen and the famous “red line”?

Actually, he didn’t

What else ya got?

Flag on the play unnecessary lying and roughing the facts

Libya and Syria were civil wars not started by Obama

You Fail

really? civil wars not started by obama? why did obama get the American military involvement in the first place?

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

2020 hindsight is always full of great hope and "what if's". If John Kennedy, didnt get US involved in the French Debacle of the Vietnam War,10s of thousands of US young men wouldn't of been killed, his lowering of taxes would of been an economic powerhouse but again it didnt happen. Who knows what the world would of looked like, but we are here, now, and thank God and the US citizens that gave US, President Trump.

I guess the thing that makes this somewhat unique is that the nomination and the presidency was being handed to Powell on a silver platter and he said no. He could have been the first black president and molded history and he said no.

JFK? Well, the forces the be made his Viet Nam decisions almost inevitable in the context of the times.

Colin Powell and what may have happened is a subject that nobody ever seems to talk about. I thought it was worth a thread.

France was the only country left in the UN that wanted to keep their slaves of the Vietnamese. It could of been avoided but France got their way. The rest is history.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

One man could have changed the course of history, and he had the opportunity to do so handed to him on a silver platter, free for the taking. Who is that man; Can you guess?

He was a professional soldier for 35 years, holding a variety of command and staff positions and rising to the rank of General. He was Ronald Reagan's National Security Advisor, serving from 1987 to 1989 while retaining his Army commission as a lieutenant general. In April 1989, after his tenure with the National Security Council, Powell was promoted to four-star general under President George H. W. Bush and briefly served as the Commander in Chief, Forces Command (FORSCOM), overseeing all Army, Army Reserve, and National Guard units in the Continental U.S., Alaska, Hawaii, and Puerto Rico. He became the third general since World War II to reach four-star rank without ever serving as a division commander, joining Dwight D. Eisenhower and Alexander Haig. Later he was selected him as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. He ascended from chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff during the elder Bush's administration to secretary of state under his son. That man is Colin Powell

For a time, that looked quite possible that he would run for president and win. Through 1995 there was hope that Powell would run for president. He led in polls of Republican primary voters. The same surveys suggested he was capable of beating President Bill Clinton. Powell could have been elected in 1996. The first black president of the United States being a Republican would have been a significant development, one that might have mitigated, if not averted, the ugly racialization of our politics. Powell would have been a moderate not too strongly associated with the left or the right, likely allowing him to assemble an electoral coalition unlike anything we can imagine today. As a Republican and the first black president, and the winner of the Gulf War, the newly minted Republican congress would have given him anything he wanted. The internet boom would have happened anyway; perhaps Powell's policies would have been even more pro-growth than second-term Clinton's.

Sadly, Powell did not run. Instead, the GOP had the sad farewell tour masquerading as a presidential campaign embarked upon by the otherwise heroic Bob Dole. A good man, but he had no chance of beating Bill Clinton, and Clinton won his second term.

A President Powell might have returned us to the era of good feelings under Reagan. A booming economy, a popular president backed by independents, no Whitewater investigations, no Monica Lewinsky, no impeachment. And maybe only one President Bush?

If 9/11 had happened under a President Powell's, the US might have been less likely to respond by waging a second war in Iraq. Our response to 9/11 may well have been limited to hitting Afghanistan, keeping the international coalition against terrorism intact under a president who had been part of winning a war.

If you look at the past 20-plus years of American politics — the Clinton embarrassments (and later the Hillary embarrassments), the Bush-Cheney wars, the horrible reign of Barack Obama — wouldn't you have wanted to avoid a lot of it? Hindsight is 20-20, but Powell looks like he might have been our best bet for doing so.

Author: Me.

Powell IS the Deep State