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I hope that wasn't an insult towards me.
By the way, aren't you the one who kept confusing me as a Conservative the other day?
How could anyone confuse you as a conservative?
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I hope that wasn't an insult towards me.
By the way, aren't you the one who kept confusing me as a Conservative the other day?
Israel's response in terms of life, death and injuries is much more harsh than the end result of the rocket attacks on Israel. This is true. However, simply because the terrorists were bad shots does not somehow excuse what they did or Israel's right to respond in kind.
If I were the Palestinian's I would round the people up who shot off the rockets and hand them over to the Israeli's. Let the Israeli's know through action that you will not support this type of action coming from any area you can police. How can Israel expect to feel safe with you governing yourself when you cannot have any influence at all over these terror groups. Stating that you don't agree with the terror groups is well and good, but, that does nothing to stop them!
In turn, if steps are taken to stop them, I mean real steps, then Israel needs to aid the Palestinian's in that effort, not bomb them. This is the same old vicious circle.
It's sad because truly innocent people on both sides are the ones who suffer the most.
I hope that wasn't an insult towards me.
By the way, aren't you the one who kept confusing me as a Conservative the other day?
How could anyone confuse you as a conservative?
did you find it insulting to have your age mentioned?
and no i have never confused you as being a conservative...seems you are the one confused about that...
i was making a point to divecon..perhaps he was the only one who understood my point...
I thought Israel was supposedly firing at only military places?
I also remembered reading a story where Israel so far has no comment after a missile hit a house which killed the five children in the house.
And really, ONLY 50? If that was 50 Israelis civilians dead, you'd be at the mouth foaming with rage.
For every 6.4 militants they kill, 1 civilian dies.
In this latest battle alone over 30 Palestinian children have been killed, and hundreds of civilians. At first launch, Israel was just trying to target Hamas headquarters-but, Hamas is using guerilla warfare style tactics against Israel, so they immersed themselves within the Palestinian population, and this is why more Palestinians are being killed instead of Hamas or Palestinian militants.
My question to those supporting that Israel should never respond, what would you propose they do? Abandon their land? Just let Hamas take over? What?
i just wish they would worry about the thousands of rockets that Hamas keeps firing into IsraelWhile Hamas is immersing themselves within the general population, even Palestinian sources agree that the majority of the killed are Hamas operatives.
XM982 Excalibur 155mm Precision Guided Extended Range Artillery ProjectileI shall repeat again a simple fact for anyone who has studied military history; especially the last 60 years.
Artillery only goes so far. You can bomb a country to hell but the only way you've truly won a battle is when your infantry can go in there and occupy the land peacefully.
Besides, even Artillery is not as accurate as can be and does not have any thought of whom they might be killing as a soldier would.
(And yes, for the sake of this conversation I am including missiles under Artillery)
i just wish they would worry about the thousands of rockets that Hamas keeps firing into Israel
just because they arent as effective, doesnt mean they are just as deadly if they actually hit their targets
the bigger problem is their targets are always at civilians
What you are saying is that even though Israel is ready for the bronze age, they need to respond as if in the stone age, because that is where Hamas is.I wouldn't go so far as to say that they should not respond, however, they should respond in a manner that is equal to the damage done to them during an attack on them. O.k. so far only one Israeli civilian has been reported killed in this latest conflict. The Israeli government blows its top, doesn't think things throug, and just goes on a murdering airstrike raid over Gaza, killing mostly civilians, while deceptively claiming it is targeting Hamas infastructures. I suppose numerous civilian Palestinian houses, schools, marketplaces, and Universities that were populated with civilians were also Hamas infastructures? Come on now, I think you know what we all mean when we say Israel shouldn't have responded the way it did. No, Israel should have sent ground forces into Hamas infastructures at night, and if Hamas wasn't there, then Israel should have just occupied the structures until either they captured Hamas, and dealt with them accordingly, or requested more U.N. sanctions to be placed on Hamas-not the Palestinian people. War should have been the last alternative in this situation.
No nation has the right to exist? Huh?
Do you sympathize with all of the Israelis injured or killed by Hamas? Few? Hamas is not comprised of a few militants here or there. Hamas is comprised of tens if not hundreds of thousands of terrorists based in Gaza. It's a cancer.
American interests do not only support Israel because Israel buys up a lot of bombs from us. Americans support Israel because Israel had a right to exist. That is why we supply Israel with weapons. Your failure to understand this simple concept is a failure to understand the entire Middle East problem. Israel has a right to exist. This is not an opinion. This is a fact. Jews have the right to their homeland where they originate from. That is Israel. That is not an opinion. That is a fact. Once again, you fail to understand this.
With 40 year old soviet technology? I highly doubt that.
Please show me your evidence of these Nazi-like concentration camps. The walls are meant to divide Gaza from Israel, to keep the people that want to blow themselves up on Israeli buses and cafes and what not on their side. Israel has a right to create a border wall to defend its people. Once again, you fail to acknowledge that any country has a right to defend itself.
Palestine was created from Israel you idiot. You cannot "occupy" your own land.
I wouldn't go so far as to say that they should not respond, however, they should respond in a manner that is equal to the damage done to them during an attack on them. O.k. so far only one Israeli civilian has been reported killed in this latest conflict. The Israeli government blows its top, doesn't think things throug, and just goes on a murdering airstrike raid over Gaza, killing mostly civilians, while deceptively claiming it is targeting Hamas infastructures. I suppose numerous civilian Palestinian houses, schools, marketplaces, and Universities that were populated with civilians were also Hamas infastructures? Come on now, I think you know what we all mean when we say Israel shouldn't have responded the way it did. No, Israel should have sent ground forces into Hamas infastructures at night, and if Hamas wasn't there, then Israel should have just occupied the structures until either they captured Hamas, and dealt with them accordingly, or requested more U.N. sanctions to be placed on Hamas-not the Palestinian people. War should have been the last alternative in this situation.
I wouldn't go so far as to say that they should not respond, however, they should respond in a manner that is equal to the damage done to them during an attack on them.
talk about fucking irony. We've been hearing israel prattle on for three fucking years about the US attacking iran but it's the PALIs who are the big giant bully. boo fucking hoo jews. Go kill yourself another hundred civilians, hopefully children, and satiate your fucking hunger for non-jewish blood.