The gun used yesterday...was California compliant, it was likely and SKS

[JoeB131]

Fuck you no civilian should own one, who are you to judge that? Now one with 3 domestic violence arrests..eh.

Were there any convictions?

Why should that matter? I mean, yeah, I guess if an investigation found he didn't do what he was accused of, you might have a point. But in these cases, it's because the women he beat didn't want to press charges and send him to prison.

It STILL should have been enough to block him from gun ownership.

Agreed about domestic violence and mental illness. Since those are already against the law, how did he get the guns?

As for banning private ownership of all semi-automatic rifles, I disagree.

Okay, laws that don't get enforced are kind of meaningless, and when the NRA isn't blocking gun laws, they are doing a pretty good job of watering down enforcement.

Again, you can't sell guns to people if they aren't scared.

 

[JoeB131]

Can we agree that the laws on the books right now aren't working and that something should be done?

But that's kind of the problem. The laws aren't supposed to work. There's a reason why we've gone from 40 million guns in 1950 to over 300 million today. Keeping people scared.

And the best way to keep them scared is to make sure that crooks and crazies have easy access to guns so they want them, too.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

I had heard it was an M-4 of course I believe it was CNN or CBS that reported it. Honestly as soon as I hear the words "assault rifle" used to describe a semi-auto weapon I tune out.

 

[Divine Wind]

Lyudmila Pavlichenko was one of the Soviet Union's top WWII snipers with 309 confirmed kills against the German invaders. Her weapon of choice was the "California compliant" bolt-action Mosin-Nagant which held 5 rounds in an internal magazine. No doubt the anti-gun mob wants to ban this "weapon of war" and anything like it.

During WWII, Lyudmila Pavlichenko Sniped a Confirmed 309 Axis Soldiers, Including 36 German Snipers
Pavlichenko’s rifle of choice during WWII was the M1891/30 Mosin-Nagant 7.62 mm rifle with a PE 4x telescope. The rifle held 5 rounds and could shoot at about 2800 ft per second with an average effective range of about 1800 ft

Meet the world's deadliest female sniper who terrorized Hitler's Nazi army

 

[JoeB131]

Lyudmila Pavlichenko was one of the Soviet Union's top WWII snipers with 309 confirmed kills against the German invaders. Her weapon of choice was the "California compliant" bolt-action Mosin-Nagant which held 5 rounds in an internal magazine. No doubt the anti-gun mob wants to ban this "weapon of war" and anything like it.

So by the logic of gun nuts, that we needs our guns in case the gummit is tyrannical, would be kind of debunked by Ms. Pavlichenko. She had a gun, she lived under one of the worst dictators in history.

 

[Divine Wind]

There are reports that the shooter used an SKS...an old, Russian rifle that would be California compliant...still waiting for more information....

so let me get this straight.

A mentally ill man with at least three arrests for domestic violence was still able to acquire a military grade weapon, which he used to shoot a Congressman who has spent his career doing the bidding of the National Rampage Association.

Yeah, i can see why you are worried. These scumbags won't come up with laws to protect schoolchildren from these nuts, but they damned well will protect themselves.

Yeah. It seems your laws barring people like him from owning guns are highly noneffective.

But more laws would change that...right?

Dumbass.

Can we agree that the laws on the books right now aren't working and that something should be done?

Actually, since violence is down, the laws are working. Instead of passing more anti-gun laws, why don't we focus upon better mental health care?

 

[Divine Wind]

Lyudmila Pavlichenko was one of the Soviet Union's top WWII snipers with 309 confirmed kills against the German invaders. Her weapon of choice was the "California compliant" bolt-action Mosin-Nagant which held 5 rounds in an internal magazine. No doubt the anti-gun mob wants to ban this "weapon of war" and anything like it.

So by the logic of gun nuts, that we needs our guns in case the gummit is tyrannical, would be kind of debunked by Ms. Pavlichenko. She had a gun, she lived under one of the worst dictators in history.

Like you, I'm sure she was a good Communist and Socialist, so why would she rise up against them? Wouldn't you carry a gun for Hillary?

 

[JoeB131]

Actually, since violence is down, the laws are working. Instead of passing more anti-gun laws, why don't we focus upon better mental health care?

No, they aren't.

Violence is down because we are getting older as a country. 40 year olds don't commit violence like 20 year olds do.

we still have a horrific number of gun deaths every year, and when it is investigated, we usually find it's a guy who had no business owning a gun to start with.

 

[JoeB131]

Like you, I'm sure she was a good Communist and Socialist, so why would she rise up against them? Wouldn't you carry a gun for Hillary?

No, I wouldn't a gun for anyone at this point in my life. I guess you could argue I carried a gun for Reagan, but that was when I was in a "Well-regulated" militia.

now, here's the thing. You guys complain all day that you needs your guns to fight the government, but that's exactly what this nut was doing yesterday, and you are horrified.

Maybe you should rethink this a bit.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Actually, since violence is down, the laws are working. Instead of passing more anti-gun laws, why don't we focus upon better mental health care?

No, they aren't.

Violence is down because we are getting older as a country. 40 year olds don't commit violence like 20 year olds do.

we still have a horrific number of gun deaths every year, and when it is investigated, we usually find it's a guy who had no business owning a gun to start with.

So gun laws didn't stop him from getting that gun, now did they?

 

[Political Junky]

There are reports that the shooter used an SKS...an old, Russian rifle that would be California compliant...still waiting for more information....


BREAKING: Congress Baseball Shooter Used SKS, 9mm Handgun - The Truth About Guns

Original reports coming out of the shooting of GOP congress members at a Virginia baseball field reported that the attacker used a firearm “similar to an M4” in the attack. Reports are now emerging (confirmed by multiple sources) that the firearm in use was actually an SKS and a 9mm handgun.

The SKS is a semi-automatic rifle which pre-dates the AK-47 by about four years as a potential battle rifle for the Soviet Red Army. Designed as a top loading stripper clip fed gas operated rifle, the gun has since often been modified to use detachable magazines as well. SKS firearms imported into the United States are predominantly Yugoslavian manufactured, and while Russian and Chinese models are available they remain rare and sought after by collectors. That makes CNN’s statement about the SKS (“a Chinese-made variant of the popular AK rifle”) almost entirely incorrect.

What a relief. LOL

 

[BULLDOG]

There are reports that the shooter used an SKS...an old, Russian rifle that would be California compliant...still waiting for more information....


BREAKING: Congress Baseball Shooter Used SKS, 9mm Handgun - The Truth About Guns

Original reports coming out of the shooting of GOP congress members at a Virginia baseball field reported that the attacker used a firearm “similar to an M4” in the attack. Reports are now emerging (confirmed by multiple sources) that the firearm in use was actually an SKS and a 9mm handgun.

The SKS is a semi-automatic rifle which pre-dates the AK-47 by about four years as a potential battle rifle for the Soviet Red Army. Designed as a top loading stripper clip fed gas operated rifle, the gun has since often been modified to use detachable magazines as well. SKS firearms imported into the United States are predominantly Yugoslavian manufactured, and while Russian and Chinese models are available they remain rare and sought after by collectors. That makes CNN’s statement about the SKS (“a Chinese-made variant of the popular AK rifle”) almost entirely incorrect.

If gun laws are useless, why didn;t that shooter have a silencer on his guns? He could have killed many more if nobody heard his shots. Why aren't silencers used by all bad guys?

 

[bodecea]

There are reports that the shooter used an SKS...an old, Russian rifle that would be California compliant...still waiting for more information....


BREAKING: Congress Baseball Shooter Used SKS, 9mm Handgun - The Truth About Guns

Original reports coming out of the shooting of GOP congress members at a Virginia baseball field reported that the attacker used a firearm “similar to an M4” in the attack. Reports are now emerging (confirmed by multiple sources) that the firearm in use was actually an SKS and a 9mm handgun.

The SKS is a semi-automatic rifle which pre-dates the AK-47 by about four years as a potential battle rifle for the Soviet Red Army. Designed as a top loading stripper clip fed gas operated rifle, the gun has since often been modified to use detachable magazines as well. SKS firearms imported into the United States are predominantly Yugoslavian manufactured, and while Russian and Chinese models are available they remain rare and sought after by collectors. That makes CNN’s statement about the SKS (“a Chinese-made variant of the popular AK rifle”) almost entirely incorrect.

Did he buy it in CA? Did he use it in CA?

 

[Mudda]

There are reports that the shooter used an SKS...an old, Russian rifle that would be California compliant...still waiting for more information....

so let me get this straight.

A mentally ill man with at least three arrests for domestic violence was still able to acquire a military grade weapon, which he used to shoot a Congressman who has spent his career doing the bidding of the National Rampage Association.

Yeah, i can see why you are worried. These scumbags won't come up with laws to protect schoolchildren from these nuts, but they damned well will protect themselves.

Yeah. It seems your laws barring people like him from owning guns are highly noneffective.

But more laws would change that...right?

Dumbass.

Can we agree that the laws on the books right now aren't working and that something should be done?

Actually, since violence is down, the laws are working. Instead of passing more anti-gun laws, why don't we focus upon better mental health care?

Better health care won't solve the gun problem, it's called deflecting.

 

[Divine Wind]

There are reports that the shooter used an SKS...an old, Russian rifle that would be California compliant...still waiting for more information....

so let me get this straight.

A mentally ill man with at least three arrests for domestic violence was still able to acquire a military grade weapon, which he used to shoot a Congressman who has spent his career doing the bidding of the National Rampage Association.

Yeah, i can see why you are worried. These scumbags won't come up with laws to protect schoolchildren from these nuts, but they damned well will protect themselves.

Yeah. It seems your laws barring people like him from owning guns are highly noneffective.

But more laws would change that...right?

Dumbass.

Can we agree that the laws on the books right now aren't working and that something should be done?

Actually, since violence is down, the laws are working. Instead of passing more anti-gun laws, why don't we focus upon better mental health care?

Better health care won't solve the gun problem, it's called deflecting.

What gun problem? Guns are no more a problem than shovels or automobiles. Well over half of the "33,000 gun deaths" the anti-gun left loves to screech about are suicides. Are you seriously going to stand by your statement that better mental health care won't help fix that problem?

 

[Divine Wind]

There are reports that the shooter used an SKS...an old, Russian rifle that would be California compliant...still waiting for more information....


BREAKING: Congress Baseball Shooter Used SKS, 9mm Handgun - The Truth About Guns

Original reports coming out of the shooting of GOP congress members at a Virginia baseball field reported that the attacker used a firearm “similar to an M4” in the attack. Reports are now emerging (confirmed by multiple sources) that the firearm in use was actually an SKS and a 9mm handgun.

The SKS is a semi-automatic rifle which pre-dates the AK-47 by about four years as a potential battle rifle for the Soviet Red Army. Designed as a top loading stripper clip fed gas operated rifle, the gun has since often been modified to use detachable magazines as well. SKS firearms imported into the United States are predominantly Yugoslavian manufactured, and while Russian and Chinese models are available they remain rare and sought after by collectors. That makes CNN’s statement about the SKS (“a Chinese-made variant of the popular AK rifle”) almost entirely incorrect.

Did he buy it in CA? Did he use it in CA?

Unless it has a bayonet on it, an SKS would be legal in California. OTOH, if he's been convicted of domestic violence or adjudicated to have mental health issues, he wouldn't be legal to buy a gun.

 

[Divine Wind]

There are reports that the shooter used an SKS...an old, Russian rifle that would be California compliant...still waiting for more information....


BREAKING: Congress Baseball Shooter Used SKS, 9mm Handgun - The Truth About Guns

Original reports coming out of the shooting of GOP congress members at a Virginia baseball field reported that the attacker used a firearm “similar to an M4” in the attack. Reports are now emerging (confirmed by multiple sources) that the firearm in use was actually an SKS and a 9mm handgun.

The SKS is a semi-automatic rifle which pre-dates the AK-47 by about four years as a potential battle rifle for the Soviet Red Army. Designed as a top loading stripper clip fed gas operated rifle, the gun has since often been modified to use detachable magazines as well. SKS firearms imported into the United States are predominantly Yugoslavian manufactured, and while Russian and Chinese models are available they remain rare and sought after by collectors. That makes CNN’s statement about the SKS (“a Chinese-made variant of the popular AK rifle”) almost entirely incorrect.

If gun laws are useless, why didn;t that shooter have a silencer on his guns? He could have killed many more if nobody heard his shots. Why aren't silencers used by all bad guys?

This LW shooter was such an idiot, he's lucky not to have shot himself much less think far-enough ahead to have practiced shooting and/or putting a silencer on his rifle.

 

[BULLDOG]

There are reports that the shooter used an SKS...an old, Russian rifle that would be California compliant...still waiting for more information....


BREAKING: Congress Baseball Shooter Used SKS, 9mm Handgun - The Truth About Guns

Original reports coming out of the shooting of GOP congress members at a Virginia baseball field reported that the attacker used a firearm “similar to an M4” in the attack. Reports are now emerging (confirmed by multiple sources) that the firearm in use was actually an SKS and a 9mm handgun.

The SKS is a semi-automatic rifle which pre-dates the AK-47 by about four years as a potential battle rifle for the Soviet Red Army. Designed as a top loading stripper clip fed gas operated rifle, the gun has since often been modified to use detachable magazines as well. SKS firearms imported into the United States are predominantly Yugoslavian manufactured, and while Russian and Chinese models are available they remain rare and sought after by collectors. That makes CNN’s statement about the SKS (“a Chinese-made variant of the popular AK rifle”) almost entirely incorrect.

If gun laws are useless, why didn;t that shooter have a silencer on his guns? He could have killed many more if nobody heard his shots. Why aren't silencers used by all bad guys?

This LW shooter was such an idiot, he's lucky not to have shot himself much less think far-enough ahead to have practiced shooting and/or putting a silencer on his rifle.

You're probably right, but that doesn't answer the question. Why don't thugs use silencers? You know they would hide where the shots come from.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Two mass shootings, several deaths and sure nuff, the usual suspects are fantasizing about how to make sure there will be more shootings and more deaths.


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[Luddly Neddite]

Fuck you no civilian should own one, who are you to judge that? Now one with 3 domestic violence arrests..eh.

Were there any convictions?

Why should that matter? I mean, yeah, I guess if an investigation found he didn't do what he was accused of, you might have a point. But in these cases, it's because the women he beat didn't want to press charges and send him to prison.

It STILL should have been enough to block him from gun ownership.

Agreed about domestic violence and mental illness. Since those are already against the law, how did he get the guns?

As for banning private ownership of all semi-automatic rifles, I disagree.

Okay, laws that don't get enforced are kind of meaningless, and when the NRA isn't blocking gun laws, they are doing a pretty good job of watering down enforcement.

Again, you can't sell guns to people if they aren't scared.

Yes. We all know that most domestic abuse isn't reported because the law favors the abuser.

If she dares to press charges, he will beat her even more.

I speak from experience and when I escaped from AZ, it was without any help from law enforcement. In fact, they made it very clear that if I got beat up, it was because I caused it. He's still at it with wife #4 and still has no official history. IOW, he could legally buy a gun.

What's wrong with this picture?


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