The Fruits Of Democrat Success -

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    The past 8 years we had a Socialist community agitator who wanted to fundamentally transform America, how could inequality keep getting uglier?
     
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    Semantics is really the best counterargument you have?
    1.take
    lay hold of (something) with one's hands; reach for and hold.
    "he leaned forward to take her hand"
    synonyms: lay hold of, take hold of, get hold of, get into one's hands
    That's the meaning of take a I was referring too.
    Unless you can question the validity of the rise in income inequality, my argument stands.
     
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    How is it take, when people are willingly giving up their monies for products or services provided, while your politicians TAKE by FORCE your taxes then pay themselves from those taxes? Are you a stupid fuck who has wealth envy because you aren't smart enough to be a crooked politician(redundant statement) or able to provide something that someone else wants? I would say yes, you are a stupid fuck.
     
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    Couple of things. First of calling Obama a socialist is ridiculous. He didn't go for single payer. In fact ACA subsidizes private insurance companies, about the least socialist thing you can do. Second the reason income inequality is getting uglier is not because of Democrats or Republicans, but campaign finance. As long as it takes hundreds of millions of dollars to get elected and as long as it's big business funding those campaigns, nothing will change because both sides are not about to bite the hand that feeds them.
    Lastly, its a deflection. The premise wasn't Democrats vs Republicans, it was how you are convinced that only one side is the cause of the problem.
     
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    Just as a reminder what you said before, but now blame campaign finance once you are proven wrong. Then you do the typical liberal bullshit argument, that if one side ruins the country then the other side is just as bad. Obama did nothing to bring Jobs back to the US, but made GE, Apple, GM and other leave for China because over there it is cheaper to make goods and Obama gave them his blessing by bringing up TPP. Now with President Trump revoking the executive orders the shit fuck Obama did, jobs are coming back and more people are getting JOBS. Now once again, tell me how the rich "TAKE" your money , while liberal politicians FORCE you go give up your money so they can make their millions?
     
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    And how did they do that, exactly? No, seriously, I would love to hear this logic.

    Here's why you need two people to make a living. Because the Right Wing got rid of all the union jobs like the one my Dad had. Because we went from a country where you could work at the same company from high school to retirement, to one where we change jobs every five years on average and could be fired on a whim. Has this weakened the family? Maybe. Or maybe people just concluded you don't stay in a marriage that doesn't work "for the children", because frankly, you aren't doing the kids a lot of good, anyway.

    Considering it got us out of Bush's disaterous recession, pretty good. But the problem was there long before Obama got there. It'll be there long after he's gone.

    But Ooooobama didn't fix the problems after we sabotaged everything he tried to do.

    It went bankrupt because they were too busy paying shareholders instead of putting money aside like they were supposed to.... All Obama did was make sure the pensions gotten taken care of before the gamblers.

    I'm not sure anyone 'wants' that, but that's the end result in a Gig Economy, isn't it.

    47% don't pay income taxes. They do pay FICA, Medicare, Sales Taxes, Sin Taxes, Property taxes (directly or indirectly), fees and other ways the government generates revenues.

    The income tax initially was ONLY supposed to be a tax on the rich. It just got expanded to nearly everyone else.
     
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    I think you are confusing take with steal. If you give me money wouldn't me receiving that money equal taking it? For someone calling someone else an idiot you seem to have troubles with reading comprehension. And no I have absolutely no problem with people earning money. I have a problem with people earning money and not paying as much as they can afford, while other people lack basic necessities that are provided in all other industrialized nations.
     
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    Except nothing of the sort is happening. Trump is merely coasting on the job growth of the last 7 years....

    But, but but, Obama didn't fix things fast enough!!!!
     
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    Thanks to socialism, the country is bankrupt
     
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