The economy. Hot, or not?

[The Duke]

Then why did Bush Sr not benefit from Reagan’s policies?

Because the things didn't have time to kick in yet, it's always delayed.

 

[braalian]

Because the things didn't have time to kick in yet, it's always delayed.

Oh come on

So the good times during Reagan’s 80s were just a delayed reaction to Jimmy Carter?

I don’t really think any president deserves much credit or blame when it comes to the economy. Its mostly beyond their control

But don’t be hypocritical.

 

[The Duke]

Oh come on

So the good times during Reagan’s 80s were just a delayed reaction to Jimmy Carter?

I don’t really think any president deserves much credit or blame when it comes to the economy. Its mostly beyond their control

But don’t be hypocritical.

You don't really know what's happenin'. I've known the real deal for a long time.

 

[JohnDB]

 

[ScorpioRising007]

Unemployment is low and has been low for a long time.
The average American has been seeing some of their best wages in decades.

So, do we have a strong economy or not? If not, what's wrong with the economy?

Most people who were having lower wages such as myself and my wife now have much better jobs and wages during Biden's presidency along with better health benefit coverage. Yes I am not happy about inflation and groceries being more expensive. Overall though financially I and my wife are much better off. I know many who came from lower income brackets who feel the same way.

So I am actually happy. From my perspective things are looking good. I know those in higher income brackets than me are complaining, but they make a lot more than my wife and I so they really have no reason to complain. Biden is doing a good job boosting the economy for the less fortunate and for me that is a very good thing.

I think things will get even better for everyone the more we move away from Capitalism and toward a more Socialistic society. Obamacare was a good idea, Medicare for all is even better.

 

[JohnDB]

 

[Lesh]

Wtf do you know about 1983, you fucking commie shitbird?

I know it was forty years ago Mr. Math Major.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Over three years, it's really not that much.

But it is not over 3 years, the years before we 3 times that much or more

 

[Lesh]

And those approval ratings reflect what people think about the economy. Some of that negative number is just “I dont like Biden”. But most of it is likely “this economy isn’t working for me“. So like I’ve said over and over. If the economy isn’t working for people in the micro what it’s doing in the macro is of little significance with regard to politics.

“Reflect what people think”

Often times what people think has no basis in fact. It’s a product of propaganda

 

[Kondor3]

Yes.

The economy is in decent condition at the moment.

Unfortunately, I'm shelling-out more money for groceries, utilities, insurance, property taxes, etc., than I was four years ago.

Much more money.

And, for that, I blame the Democrats, and Sleepy Old Uncle Joe.

"The buck stops here".

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I suspect that I am not alone in that opinion.

 

[Kondor3]

“Reflect what people think”

Often times what people think has no basis in fact. It’s a product of propaganda

Politics = Perception.

It is NOT "propaganda" to blame the incumbent for profound Inflation that has greatly increased costs for many things, yes?

Blaming "propaganda" will not get you anywhere in this upcoming election cycle... you'll have to do better than that.

And given the Invasion of 12,000,000 or more Illegal Aliens since Old Joe took office... good luck with that message.

 

[Lesh]

Yes.

The economy is in decent condition at the moment.

Unfortunately, I'm shelling-out more money for groceries, utilities, insurance, property taxes, etc., than I was four years ago.

Much more money.

And, for that, I blame the Democrats, and Sleepy Old Uncle Joe.

"The buck stops here".

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I suspect that I am not alone in that opinion.

A. Good of you to admit that the eco pi’s doing well.

B. You’re paying more sure. But we always pay more over time. Good that you admit that you can afford to

Yea no one likes paying ANYTHING. But it’always been that way

 

[Lesh]

Politics = Perception.

It is NOT "propaganda" to blame the incumbent for profound Inflation that has greatly increased costs for many things, yes?

Blaming "propaganda" will not get you anywhere in this upcoming election cycle... you'll have to do better than that.

And given the Invasion of 12,000,000 or more Illegal Aliens since Old Joe took office... good luck with that message.

When you admit that the economy is doing well but it’s a “perception problem” you are pointing out that it’s about propaganda.

Republicans are invested in making people FEEL that the economy is doing poorly.

Just as they did in the Obama Admin.

Trump got elected on 2016 and little changed economically but the “perception” reversed . All of a sudden it was Unicorns and flowers even though little had changed

That’s propaganda

 

[JohnDB]

 

[JoeB131]

50-footer says what?

You seem to know an awful lot about trailer parks... I guess that's your world, Cleetus.

 

[Couchpotato]

“Reflect what people think”

Often times what people think has no basis in fact. It’s a product of propaganda

Ok. That doesnt change anything I've said. I dont think the majority of the people who believe the economy isnt working for them think that due to propaganda. There's far more propaganda saying the economy is best ever than there is the other way.

 

[JohnDB]

 

[Kondor3]

When you admit that the economy is doing well but it’s a “perception problem” you are pointing out that it’s about propaganda.

Not at all.

Our nation contains legions of voters of all stripes who arrived at such conclusions independently.

How?

By looking at their grocery store receipts and utility bills and the price of gas at the pump and on and on and on...

Republicans are invested in making people FEEL that the economy is doing poorly.

Of COURSE they are. That's a gimme. Unfortunately for the Dems, the turn-around comes too late to curb the price climbs.

Just as they did in the Obama Admin. Trump got elected on 2016 and little changed economically but the “perception” reversed . All of a sudden it was Unicorns and flowers even though little had changed. That’s propaganda

Your adversaries are engaging in political propaganda in order to influence perception?

Of COURSE they are.

You do it too.

One need only turn to MSNBC to discern the truth of that observation.

However...

That "propaganda" would not be working if those 12,000,000 had not been allowed in or had Inflation been checked in time.

Behind every great "propaganda" campaign is a kernel of functional Truth for that propaganda to zero-in on, eh?

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As with most things, the Truth probably lies somewhere in the middle.

And, given that Perception can color Truth, ya'll are in a bit of a pickle at present.

 

[Lesh]

Not at all.

Our nation contains legions of voters of all stripes who arrived at such conclusions independently.

How?

By looking at their grocery store receipts and utility bills and the price of gas at the pump and on and on and on...

Of COURSE they are. That's a gimme. Unfortunately for the Dems, the turn-around comes too late to curb the price climbs.

Your adversaries are engaging in political propaganda in order to influence perception?

Of COURSE they are.

You do it too.

One need only turn to MSNBC to discern the truth of that observation.

However...

That "propaganda" would not be working if those 12,000,000 had not been allowed in or had Inflation been checked in time.

Behind every great "propaganda" campaign is a kernel of functional Truth for that propaganda to zero-in on, eh?

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As with most things, the Truth probably lies somewhere in the middle.

And, given that Perception can color Truth, ya'll are in a bit of a pickle at present.

Propaganda works. Claiming it doesn’t is just stupid

 

[Lesh]

Ok. That doesnt change anything I've said. I dont think the majority of the people who believe the economy isnt working for them think that due to propaganda. There's far more propaganda saying the economy is best ever than there is the other way.

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