The Constitution Prohibits Trump From Ever Being President Again

[Faun]

Criminally, I think the impeachment trial would bar any future trial for the same charge. It wouldn't apply for a civil suit, since it has already happened. What the SCOTUS would be asked to do is to ban a person from being on the ballot based on civil trial result and not a criminal trial. IMO, I don't think that's a high enough bar to uphold Colorado's Supreme Court decision.

Um, impeachment is not criminal. And the Constitution states someone who is impeached can still face legal charges. So no, double jeopardy is not at risk here.

 

[PeanutGallery]

What a idiot , couldn't be simpler , contribute something and don't try to hijack the thread. This guy is one dumb fuck and he is gone. If you want this forum to be a place that is worth going to , dump these ass holes who won't contribute or just spend their time trying to hijack the thread.

Again, tough guy. Are you the enforcer of this message board? Since you're not, my initial entry was a response to a Faun post. An A -B conversation that you managed to C your way into in post #1081. Since I'm not going to leave and you can't make me, either put me on ignore or grow a thicker skin. If it was based on contribution to this thread, you'd be kicked out a long time ago.

 

[PeanutGallery]

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Constitution, Article I, Section 3.

This specifically address your claim.

The idea behind double jeopardy is that you can't be tried twice criminally for the same crime if you are convicted or found not guilty. The Constitution itself says that impeachment DOES NOT preclude criminal adjudication after impeachment, as a matter of fact it spells out quite clearly that criminal indictment and prosecution IS available after impeachment.

Also, it would make no logical sense to claim:

• If convicted as part of impeachment the individual is subject to criminal prosecution (goes against double jeopardy), but
• If not convicted as part of the impeachment the individual is NOT subject to criminal prosecution because of double jeopardy.

Double jeopardy applied to BOTH conviction and non-conviction of crimes. It has nothing to do with the political process of impeachment. Impeachment does not bar criminal prosecution.

WW

Thank you for the informative post. Now I know that the SCOTUS can't look into that as a factor in their decision.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Thank you for the informative post. Now I know that the SCOTUS can't look into that as a factor in their decision.

You’re welcome.

WW

 

[crossbody]

What we have is the democrats trying to weaponize the courts, and failing horribly at doing so. Also the democrats are trying usurp authority over congress who voted not to convict President Trump on those unsubstantiated insurrection charges.

www.nbcnews.com › politics › donald-trumpTrump acquitted in impeachment trial​

Feb 13, 2021 · By Dareh Gregorian The Senate on Saturday voted to acquit former President Donald Trump on a charge of incitement of insurrection.

Yet that is not good enough for the democrats. They want double jeopardy by convicting Trump for the same thing over and over and over again that he's already been acquitted of. I doubt if the Supreme Court is going usurp authority of that senate vote for acquittal.

 

[jbander]

What we have is the democrats trying to weaponize the courts, and failing horribly at doing so. Also the democrats are trying usurp authority over congress who voted not to convict President Trump on those unsubstantiated insurrection charges.

www.nbcnews.com › politics › donald-trumpTrump acquitted in impeachment trial​

Feb 13, 2021 · By Dareh Gregorian The Senate on Saturday voted to acquit former President Donald Trump on a charge of incitement of insurrection.

Yet that is not good enough for the democrats. They want double jeopardy by convicting Trump for the same thing over and over and over again that he's already been acquitted of. I doubt if the Supreme Court is going usurp authority of that senate vote for acquittal.

Bullshit one party who didn't give a fuck about our democracy or constitution saved him. There is no doubt that he caused a insurrection. he should be in front of a court for treason and when found guilty should be put to death along with anyone who helped him.As the constitution subscribes. He is looking at 700 years in his 91 felony charges , no jury will find him not guilty ,considering every witness will be his best friends, his mediate closest family, his past lawyers and his cabinet while he was in office , You idiot are nuts if you think he will be found not guilty in court. One more time no jury will find him not guilty. This is so funny.

 

[crossbody]

Bullshit one party who didn't give a fuck about our democracy or constitution saved him. There is no doubt that he caused a insurrection. he should be in front of a court for treason and when found guilty should be put to death along with anyone who helped him.As the constitution subscribes. He is looking at 700 years in his 91 felony charges , no jury will find him not guilty ,considering every witness will be his best friends, his mediate closest family, his past lawyers and his cabinet while he was in office , You idiot are nuts if you think he will be found not guilty in court. One more time no jury will find him not guilty. This is so funny.

Yeah, President Trump Reelected in 2024

 

[jbander]

My position is they are the enemy of my country, they would take my freedom, my democracy, my constitution and my country away from me to stay in power. They aren't the noble opposition and they aren't just the other side of the isle and they aren't just a group that has a different opinion, they would destroy us to stay in power. They are the enemy and it is time that they are treated like the enemy. They are a bigger threat to our democracy then any war we have ever been in. This has the ability to destroy us more then any war. Their are no patriots on the right.

 

[Faun]

What we have is the democrats trying to weaponize the courts, and failing horribly at doing so. Also the democrats are trying usurp authority over congress who voted not to convict President Trump on those unsubstantiated insurrection charges.

www.nbcnews.com › politics › donald-trumpTrump acquitted in impeachment trial​

Feb 13, 2021 · By Dareh Gregorian The Senate on Saturday voted to acquit former President Donald Trump on a charge of incitement of insurrection.

Yet that is not good enough for the democrats. They want double jeopardy by convicting Trump for the same thing over and over and over again that he's already been acquitted of. I doubt if the Supreme Court is going usurp authority of that senate vote for acquittal.

Thanks for letting the forum know you have no idea what double jeopardy is.

 

[crossbody]

Thanks for letting the forum know you have no idea what double jeopardy is.

Trump train coming... Trump train coming...

 

[Faun]

Trump train coming... Trump train coming...

Bookmarked.

 

[jbander]

Trump train coming... Trump train coming...

The rapist Shitpants is going to jail , that the only place he is going.

 

[Concerned American]

The rapist Shitpants is going to jail , that the only place he is going.

I agree, that is where Joseph Robinette Biden is headed for the rest of his short life.

 

[Stryder50]

My position is they are the enemy of my country, they would take my freedom, my democracy, my constitution and my country away from me to stay in power. They aren't the noble opposition and they aren't just the other side of the isle and they aren't just a group that has a different opinion, they would destroy us to stay in power. They are the enemy and it is time that they are treated like the enemy. They are a bigger threat to our democracy then any war we have ever been in. This has the ability to destroy us more then any war. Their are no patriots on the right.

The position of conservatives and the Right-wing political faction is the Left-wing/most Democrats are the enemy of our country. They are the process to take away our freedom, transform the Republic into a socialist democracy, nullify the Constitution, and fundamentally change our country away from it's 250 year legacy in order to stay in power.

The Left and a majority of Democrats aren't the noble opposition and they aren't just the other side of the isle and they aren't just a group that has a different opinion, they would Rights, Freedom, and Prosperity to stay in power. They are the enemy of Liberty and Freedom and it is time that they are treated like the enemy.

They are a bigger threat to our Republic then any war we have ever been in, although with their allies outside our nation the have engaged in asymmetrical warfare . The Left has the ability to destroy us more then any war. There are few if any patriots on the Left.

(Corrected it for you.)

A reminder: Among humans there are Makers (wealth creators), Takers (wealth redistributors), Fakers (anarchists posing as patriots)
In the USA, the Conservatives and political Right are the Makers.
The pseudo-Liberal, "Progressives", political Left (and AntiFa & BLM) are the Takers and Fakers.

 

[jbander]

The position of conservatives and the Right-wing political faction is the Left-wing/most Democrats are the enemy of our country. They are the process to take away our freedom, transform the Republic into a socialist democracy, nullify the Constitution, and fundamentally change our country away from it's 250 year legacy in order to stay in power.

The Left and a majority of Democrats aren't the noble opposition and they aren't just the other side of the isle and they aren't just a group that has a different opinion, they would Rights, Freedom, and Prosperity to stay in power. They are the enemy of Liberty and Freedom and it is time that they are treated like the enemy.

They are a bigger threat to our Republic then any war we have ever been in, although with their allies outside our nation the have engaged in asymmetrical warfare . The Left has the ability to destroy us more then any war. There are few if any patriots on the Left.

(Corrected it for you.)

A reminder: Among humans there are Makers (wealth creators), Takers (wealth redistributors), Fakers (anarchists posing as patriots)
In the USA, the Conservatives and political Right are the Makers.
The pseudo-Liberal, "Progressives", political Left (and AntiFa & BLM) are the Takers and Fakers.

screw you, we won't go any further then you socialist stupidity , the only way you can get it to work for you is if you define what it means yourself and every single one of you hate Nazi's have a different definition of socialism. Here's the problem socialism already has a definition and that definition , the real ones says your definition is stupid. There really are just a few tenants of socialism, there is one that without which there is no socialism and that is the means of production is owned and operated by the state and the sale of that production is designate to the state. So you brainless cartoon character show us where that exist in this country. Don't come with a program that every civilized country in the world does for the sake of their population. Your hate group tried to overthrow this country and its constitution and flag, by putting over 140 police in the hospital. With chains whips bats and steel pipes. BLM was a protest over police brutality, the first one was done for a absolute ridiculous brain dead lie and the second was done for a reason that was true. You people are small and cruel and hateful and we know there is a lot of you but you are the lowest level of our society and have to be treated as such.

 

[BackAgain]

PSA.

This thread still has a false thread headline.

Carry on.

 

[jbander]

screw you, we won't go any further then you socialist stupidity , the only way you can get it to work for you is if you define what it means yourself and every single one of you hate Nazi's have a different definition of socialism. Here's the problem socialism already has a definition and that definition , the real ones says your definition is stupid. There really are just a few tenants of socialism, there is one that without which there is no socialism and that is the means of production is owned and operated by the state and the sale of that production is designate to the state. So you brainless cartoon character show us where that exist in this country. Don't come with a program that every civilized country in the world does for the sake of their population. Your hate group tried to overthrow this country and its constitution and flag, by putting over 140 police in the hospital. With chains whips bats and steel pipes. BLM was a protest over police brutality, the first one was done for a absolute ridiculous brain dead lie and the second was done for a reason that was true. You people are small and cruel and hateful and we know there is a lot of you but you are the lowest level of our society and have to be treated as such.

I buried your ass and that's the best you can do, What a hoot!

 

[jbander]

I just found a area of this forum that I haven't seen before it shows people responses they have given me through the years . I'm flowing over with pride over the hate you people have for me and how much I seem to have shit on your world. You are nothing but a hate group that you call a party, You are driven by ignorance and hate , that's the end of your story.

 

[jbander]

I just found a area of this forum that I haven't seen before it shows people responses they have given me through the years . I'm flowing over with pride over the hate you people have for me and how much I seem to have shit on your world. You are nothing but a hate group that you call a party, You are driven by ignorance and hate , that's the end of your story.

There you go , thanks a million stryder, stryder gave me the fake news cartoon graphic, you make me proud.

 

[Concerned American]

I buried your ass and that's the best you can do, What a hoot!

Yup, as this response to yourself clearly shows, you buried yourself. Freudian slip? I think not.