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Either way, you have to be open to the fact that you could be wrong. Even if 2 billion people agree with you.
If a non-believer is wrong about God being real, and God has not directly shown himself to that person, for God to punish him would be quite immoral.
Do you agree?
Regards
DL
Doesn't matter what I think, but, I do believe every human being on Earth has or will be given the opportunity and/or God will reveal Himself to them in one way or another.
It matters that your religion produces such weak minds that they cannot make moral judgement just as you have shown you cannot do here.
Religion is all about morals and yours are not worthy. You might wonder why.
You and others here who run from moral discussions are doing my work of discrediting Christianity for me.
Keep it up.
Regards
DL
The Scriptures tell us that out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks and your words here reveal the motive of your own heart, DL. You say your work is to discredit Christianity. Who is the accuser of the Brethren, DL? Satan. As you admit that your work is to discredit Christianity - there is no reason for anyone to listen to a word you have to say (in fact, I'd strongly advise people not to listen to you)
You have an ulterior motive. You are not interested in the truth. You're only interest is in accomplishing your own objective which is to destroy the faith of others. By whatever deceptive strategies you can devise. What you do not realize is that you shall one day give an account before God for what you have done here.
Christianity discredit's itself with its homophobia, misogyny and adoration of a genocidal son murdering demiurge.
The fact that those like you who run from moral discussions make whatever case I try to make.
I see you end with the usual Christian fear tactic.
Another immoral trait that your religion has given you.
Regards
DL
If a non-believer is wrong about God being real, and God has not directly shown himself to that person, for God to punish him would be quite immoral.
Do you agree?
Regards
DL
Doesn't matter what I think, but, I do believe every human being on Earth has or will be given the opportunity and/or God will reveal Himself to them in one way or another.
It matters that your religion produces such weak minds that they cannot make moral judgement just as you have shown you cannot do here.
Religion is all about morals and yours are not worthy. You might wonder why.
You and others here who run from moral discussions are doing my work of discrediting Christianity for me.
Keep it up.
Regards
DL
The Scriptures tell us that out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks and your words here reveal the motive of your own heart, DL. You say your work is to discredit Christianity. Who is the accuser of the Brethren, DL? Satan. As you admit that your work is to discredit Christianity - there is no reason for anyone to listen to a word you have to say (in fact, I'd strongly advise people not to listen to you)
You have an ulterior motive. You are not interested in the truth. You're only interest is in accomplishing your own objective which is to destroy the faith of others. By whatever deceptive strategies you can devise. What you do not realize is that you shall one day give an account before God for what you have done here.
Christianity discredit's itself with its homophobia, misogyny and adoration of a genocidal son murdering demiurge.
The fact that those like you who run from moral discussions make whatever case I try to make.
I see you end with the usual Christian fear tactic.
Another immoral trait that your religion has given you.
Regards
DL
I beg to differ. Do you recall the seat belt commercial where they put the dummy in the car without a seat belt and smashed him into a wall to show the viewers what happens to those who get into a car accident without their seat belts on? It was very effective and in my own city about 99% of the population obeys the seat belt law! Would you also accuse them of using fear tactics in order to save lives?
Please buckle up. (Romans 10:9,10) Arrive alive.
Says Mr. Dianetics.GreatestIam melt down!
I say this only because you have, yet again, condemned foolishly. I have been married twice and have never known other women. I was not with my wife until marriage. My first wife died, and I was continent until I married again. And I served tours for months on end away from my spouse. Can you say you have only known your mate and only within marriage?
I have always loved the Lord my God, and I have always tried to love my fellow human beings as myself. I have always given tithe to the poor and needy. I try to seek out to do acts of kindness daily without being seen. Can you say that you have done this?
I don't care if my fellow man knows not my heart and my actions, but my Lord God does. I call him "Lord" and he calls me by my first name.
Step along, GreatestIam, step along.
I never condemn foolishly and if you are to state such you should at least have the balls to show what you are talking about and provide your argument against.
As to me, I have a family tradition to follow.
I like being ----
Stop complaining about not being attractive to women pal.
Regards
D
Somewhere along someone's thread make that post that defines them. That last sentence of yours says it all. Some of the people who come to this forum to insult religion are truly shocking in their moral degeneration.
LOL.
Psychobabble B.S.
Regards
DL
Paranoia is an unreasoned fear of unlikely or unreal situations/things, etc.
Prudence is preparing for real possibilities, like auto accidents.
Doesn't matter what I think, but, I do believe every human being on Earth has or will be given the opportunity and/or God will reveal Himself to them in one way or another.
It matters that your religion produces such weak minds that they cannot make moral judgement just as you have shown you cannot do here.
Religion is all about morals and yours are not worthy. You might wonder why.
You and others here who run from moral discussions are doing my work of discrediting Christianity for me.
Keep it up.
Regards
DL
The Scriptures tell us that out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks and your words here reveal the motive of your own heart, DL. You say your work is to discredit Christianity. Who is the accuser of the Brethren, DL? Satan. As you admit that your work is to discredit Christianity - there is no reason for anyone to listen to a word you have to say (in fact, I'd strongly advise people not to listen to you)
You have an ulterior motive. You are not interested in the truth. You're only interest is in accomplishing your own objective which is to destroy the faith of others. By whatever deceptive strategies you can devise. What you do not realize is that you shall one day give an account before God for what you have done here.
Christianity discredit's itself with its homophobia, misogyny and adoration of a genocidal son murdering demiurge.
The fact that those like you who run from moral discussions make whatever case I try to make.
I see you end with the usual Christian fear tactic.
Another immoral trait that your religion has given you.
Regards
DL
I beg to differ. Do you recall the seat belt commercial where they put the dummy in the car without a seat belt and smashed him into a wall to show the viewers what happens to those who get into a car accident without their seat belts on? It was very effective and in my own city about 99% of the population obeys the seat belt law! Would you also accuse them of using fear tactics in order to save lives?
Please buckle up. (Romans 10:9,10) Arrive alive.
The wall was real.
See the difference?
Regards
DL
The OT is mainly myths and oral stories changed and handed down, wrote by godless barbaric people.
The NT wrote by a more progressive people, more humane, better people that still had to deal with the godless people, which Rome finally did in 70AD, but they are still here.
ROFLMAO I hope the NT was WROTE by people more literate than are you. Unfortunately ---the same people ----who THE NT WAS WROTE by engaged in
extensive barbarity and committed genocide against hundreds of millions upon whom people of your ilk dance with joy. Most of the people who adhere to the writings of the NT----are, fortunately, way ahead of filth of your ilk-----and have repudiated the filth you so love
It matters that your religion produces such weak minds that they cannot make moral judgement just as you have shown you cannot do here.
Religion is all about morals and yours are not worthy. You might wonder why.
You and others here who run from moral discussions are doing my work of discrediting Christianity for me.
Keep it up.
Regards
DL
The Scriptures tell us that out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks and your words here reveal the motive of your own heart, DL. You say your work is to discredit Christianity. Who is the accuser of the Brethren, DL? Satan. As you admit that your work is to discredit Christianity - there is no reason for anyone to listen to a word you have to say (in fact, I'd strongly advise people not to listen to you)
You have an ulterior motive. You are not interested in the truth. You're only interest is in accomplishing your own objective which is to destroy the faith of others. By whatever deceptive strategies you can devise. What you do not realize is that you shall one day give an account before God for what you have done here.
Christianity discredit's itself with its homophobia, misogyny and adoration of a genocidal son murdering demiurge.
The fact that those like you who run from moral discussions make whatever case I try to make.
I see you end with the usual Christian fear tactic.
Another immoral trait that your religion has given you.
Regards
DL
I beg to differ. Do you recall the seat belt commercial where they put the dummy in the car without a seat belt and smashed him into a wall to show the viewers what happens to those who get into a car accident without their seat belts on? It was very effective and in my own city about 99% of the population obeys the seat belt law! Would you also accuse them of using fear tactics in order to save lives?
Please buckle up. (Romans 10:9,10) Arrive alive.
The wall was real.
See the difference?
Regards
DL
The wall was real and so is hell. There is no difference.
You completely dodged my question. You alluded that one may be ignorant if they dismiss the Holy Spirit. I turned this argument back on yourself by questioning that since you dismiss all other gods/religions that you may be ignorant also. Throughout history people have had personal beliefs about so many other gods and spiritual beings. To them their belief was the only way, the only truth. It was just as real to them as your belief is as real to you.To call one ignorant because they don't accept your version of your religion not only alienates atheists and agnostics but those who follow other gods and religions. That is the majority of all the humans that have ever lived on this planet.Most atheists were at one time christians or part of another religion. Do you consider yourself ignorant for dismissing every other god and religion?I disagree. I happen to be a Christian, but I don't leave my brain at the church doors. There are MANY very intelligent Christians out there. Maybe they just don't frequent the message boards.
The Bible makes sense to Christian's or "saved" people. An unsaved person and understand the content, research the translations etc. but, how can you expect an unsaved person to relate to or understand the indwelling of the Holy Spirit when they have not experienced it. To dismiss it out of hand is what is ignorant.
I was an atheist or agnostic. I'm not sure if I would call myself ignorant. I have learned a lot about other religions, but, Christianity (how I have experienced it) seems to be the only one that rings true in my heart/soul. It's hard to discuss a personal belief that is an experience outside of "just the facts" - that's why there is such debate, but, if you accept the premise and/or are convicted that Jesus is the only way to heaven, since the Bible states that, you are simply making a choice to believe that. I don't think that is ignorant in my opinion.
So if someone were to approach you and tell you the god they believe in (which is different than your god) is the truth and 100% true, how would you respond to them. Remember they have zero evidence to back up this claim. How would you respond to them.I do not believe in luck. I believe in the Word of God that tells me that Gods Word will not return back unto Him void without going forth and performing the work it was sent to do.
There is no debate about whether the Bible is myth or truth. The Word of God is true. God is not a man that He should lie. You can rely on the Word of God being 100% true. With that, if you will read it, study it, and do what it says you will find eternal life.
You completely dodged my question. You alluded that one may be ignorant if they dismiss the Holy Spirit. I turned this argument back on yourself by questioning that since you dismiss all other gods/religions that you may be ignorant also. Throughout history people have had personal beliefs about so many other gods and spiritual beings. To them their belief was the only way, the only truth. It was just as real to them as your belief is as real to you.To call one ignorant because they don't accept your version of your religion not only alienates atheists and agnostics but those who follow other gods and religions. That is the majority of all the humans that have ever lived on this planet.Most atheists were at one time christians or part of another religion. Do you consider yourself ignorant for dismissing every other god and religion?I disagree. I happen to be a Christian, but I don't leave my brain at the church doors. There are MANY very intelligent Christians out there. Maybe they just don't frequent the message boards.
The Bible makes sense to Christian's or "saved" people. An unsaved person and understand the content, research the translations etc. but, how can you expect an unsaved person to relate to or understand the indwelling of the Holy Spirit when they have not experienced it. To dismiss it out of hand is what is ignorant.
I was an atheist or agnostic. I'm not sure if I would call myself ignorant. I have learned a lot about other religions, but, Christianity (how I have experienced it) seems to be the only one that rings true in my heart/soul. It's hard to discuss a personal belief that is an experience outside of "just the facts" - that's why there is such debate, but, if you accept the premise and/or are convicted that Jesus is the only way to heaven, since the Bible states that, you are simply making a choice to believe that. I don't think that is ignorant in my opinion.
So if someone were to approach you and tell you the god they believe in (which is different than your god) is the truth and 100% true, how would you respond to them. Remember they have zero evidence to back up this claim. How would you respond to them.I do not believe in luck. I believe in the Word of God that tells me that Gods Word will not return back unto Him void without going forth and performing the work it was sent to do.
There is no debate about whether the Bible is myth or truth. The Word of God is true. God is not a man that He should lie. You can rely on the Word of God being 100% true. With that, if you will read it, study it, and do what it says you will find eternal life.
That is great that it changed your life and I'm happy for you. You still dismissed the person in the scenario's claim and I'm just asking you to think about the reasons why you would dismiss anyone else's claim of another god or religion.So if someone were to approach you and tell you the god they believe in (which is different than your god) is the truth and 100% true, how would you respond to them. Remember they have zero evidence to back up this claim. How would you respond to them.I do not believe in luck. I believe in the Word of God that tells me that Gods Word will not return back unto Him void without going forth and performing the work it was sent to do.
There is no debate about whether the Bible is myth or truth. The Word of God is true. God is not a man that He should lie. You can rely on the Word of God being 100% true. With that, if you will read it, study it, and do what it says you will find eternal life.
I would explain to them why Jesus is the only way. Why I believe that and how it has changed my life
That is great that it changed your life and I'm happy for you. You still dismissed the person in the scenario's claim and I'm just asking you to think about the reasons why you would dismiss anyone else's claim of another god or religion
I think most choose the religion of their parents. Most Hindus had Hindu parents, most Muslims had Muslim parents and of course most Christians had Christian parents. Of course this is not the same for everyone and some choose religions that is different from their family or community. If you feel another religion or another god does not ring true then I feel you are dismissing it.That is great that it changed your life and I'm happy for you. You still dismissed the person in the scenario's claim and I'm just asking you to think about the reasons why you would dismiss anyone else's claim of another god or religion
I have heard them, I don't dismiss them, but they don't ring true - I have listened to and learned about quite a few other religions. Most people simply choose the religion that already agrees with their lifestyle of life philosophy. When I was born again, it necessitated a radical change - not because man said so, but because I needed to be obedient to God, not because if I didn't I would burn in hell, but because I accepted him as my Lord and knew he has the best in mind for me and my life.
The Bible. Myth or Reality?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAEpc1zhcuo
As a Gnostic Christian I see literal reading of the Bible as a gross distortion of what the Bible was written to do. That being to inspire people to seek God and his best laws and rules. Literal readers just become idol worshipers and do not seek God the way Jesus instructed.
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/03132009/watch.html
Literal reading has created and idol worshiping closed minded people who have settled for an immoral God whom we name as a demiurge as his morals, if literally true, are more satanic than God like.
Literal reading has also created a climate where scholars and experts, historians and archeologist, and all the academically well accepted information they uncover, --- is being ignored or called lies by those who are not academics of the various disciplines.
What is the point of producing good academics if literalists are going to ignore facts because of blind faith?
Remember please that if not a book of myths, then real talking serpents are somehow supposed to still exist and believers have to believe in a lot of supernatural phenomenon without any evidence whatsoever. Literalist Christians, it seems to me, have suspended rational judgement that has created in Christians a new Dark Age of thought and an Inquisitional attitude towards all other thinking. They no longer seek God and are true idol worshipers instead of the God seekers that Jesus wanted to see.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvBxFXQy7-M
Do you think the Bible to be a book of myths or a book trying to show reality and history?
Regards
DL
think most choose the religion of their parents. Most Hindus had Hindu parents, most Muslims had Muslim parents and of course most Christians had Christian parents. Of course this is not the same for everyone and some choose religions that is different from their family or community. If you feel another religion or another god does not ring true then I feel you are dismissing it.
I think most choose the religion of their parents. Most Hindus had Hindu parents, most Muslims had Muslim parents and of course most Christians had Christian parents. Of course this is not the same for everyone and some choose religions that is different from their family or community. If you feel another religion or another god does not ring true then I feel you are dismissing it.That is great that it changed your life and I'm happy for you. You still dismissed the person in the scenario's claim and I'm just asking you to think about the reasons why you would dismiss anyone else's claim of another god or religion
I have heard them, I don't dismiss them, but they don't ring true - I have listened to and learned about quite a few other religions. Most people simply choose the religion that already agrees with their lifestyle of life philosophy. When I was born again, it necessitated a radical change - not because man said so, but because I needed to be obedient to God, not because if I didn't I would burn in hell, but because I accepted him as my Lord and knew he has the best in mind for me and my life.
The Bible. Myth or Reality?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAEpc1zhcuo
As a Gnostic Christian I see literal reading of the Bible as a gross distortion of what the Bible was written to do. That being to inspire people to seek God and his best laws and rules. Literal readers just become idol worshipers and do not seek God the way Jesus instructed.
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/03132009/watch.html
Literal reading has created and idol worshiping closed minded people who have settled for an immoral God whom we name as a demiurge as his morals, if literally true, are more satanic than God like.
Literal reading has also created a climate where scholars and experts, historians and archeologist, and all the academically well accepted information they uncover, --- is being ignored or called lies by those who are not academics of the various disciplines.
What is the point of producing good academics if literalists are going to ignore facts because of blind faith?
Remember please that if not a book of myths, then real talking serpents are somehow supposed to still exist and believers have to believe in a lot of supernatural phenomenon without any evidence whatsoever. Literalist Christians, it seems to me, have suspended rational judgement that has created in Christians a new Dark Age of thought and an Inquisitional attitude towards all other thinking. They no longer seek God and are true idol worshipers instead of the God seekers that Jesus wanted to see.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvBxFXQy7-M
Do you think the Bible to be a book of myths or a book trying to show reality and history?
Regards
DL
both
the same way oral stories get handed down and stories in the form of parables as Jesus taught. Stories tell of a history of a people and how they came to find god. It reflex a reality of how people are not necessary and exact mirror image.
Most myths have a basis in reality.
