The art of forgiving

[anotherlife]

the Lords's prayer includes that God forgives us to the extent that we forgive our tormentors.

This is interesting.

It is well known that the devil can take over the mind and control everything we do. This too is the reason why Judas Iscariot, after the devil entered him at the last supper, felt at peace to betray Jesus, and when the devil left him after the crucifixion, not before, then only after that time, he realized what he did.

Yes, the devil can take control over everybody's mind, even the minds of little babies.

Therefore, when you think that you can't forgive, or it is too dangerous for you to forgive, then think that your offender may very well be just a host of the devil, himself just an empty shell, but filled with the devil, carrying out his every command in faith to the devil.

At the danger that you can't foretell when and if you too are or will be a host of the devil, it is a prudent life insurance to forgive your tormentors, so that you will get forgiven when you do the same at other times.

Discuss.

 

[Meriweather]

the Lords's prayer includes that God forgives us to the extent that we forgive our tormentors.

This is interesting.

It is well known that the devil can take over the mind and control everything we do. This too is the reason why Judas Iscariot, after the devil entered him at the last supper, felt at peace to betray Jesus, and when the devil left him after the crucifixion, not before, then only after that time, he realized what he did.

Yes, the devil can take control over everybody's mind, even the minds of little babies.

Therefore, when you think that you can't forgive, or it is too dangerous for you to forgive, then think that your offender may very well be just a host of the devil, himself just an empty shell, but filled with the devil, carrying out his every command in faith to the devil.

At the danger that you can't foretell when and if you too are or will be a host of the devil, it is a prudent life insurance to forgive your tormentors, so that you will get forgiven when you do the same at other times.

Discuss.

I have read a few things on possession and exorcism. What each victim agreed on is that they did give their conscious consent in one way or another to allow that possession or control to take place.

 

[anotherlife]

the Lords's prayer includes that God forgives us to the extent that we forgive our tormentors.

This is interesting.

It is well known that the devil can take over the mind and control everything we do. This too is the reason why Judas Iscariot, after the devil entered him at the last supper, felt at peace to betray Jesus, and when the devil left him after the crucifixion, not before, then only after that time, he realized what he did.

Yes, the devil can take control over everybody's mind, even the minds of little babies.

Therefore, when you think that you can't forgive, or it is too dangerous for you to forgive, then think that your offender may very well be just a host of the devil, himself just an empty shell, but filled with the devil, carrying out his every command in faith to the devil.

At the danger that you can't foretell when and if you too are or will be a host of the devil, it is a prudent life insurance to forgive your tormentors, so that you will get forgiven when you do the same at other times.

Discuss.

I have read a few things on possession and exorcism. What each victim agreed on is that they did give their conscious consent in one way or another to allow that possession or control to take place.

This in not true. Your permission is not necessary for the devil to enter you. Someone else can provide the permission that the devil enters you. This someone can be a parent, or even an acquaintance, or a lover, even if you never had sex. And that permission may be unwitting. Then there is also a generational permission for the devil to enter you, given by your ancestor who may have died centuries before. But the most common permission for the devil to enter you is unwitting and is by someone that you may know however slightly and remotely.

 

[diver52]

If the reason you forgive is because you are afraid you won't be forgiven, then it really isn't forgiveness at all. It is, as you describe it, life insurance.

 

[ding]

If the reason you forgive is because you are afraid you won't be forgiven, then it really isn't forgiveness at all. It is, as you describe it, life insurance.

Agreed. Poor insurance at that.

We forgive first and foremost for ourselves. Not for future rewards but for present rewards.

 

[anotherlife]

the Lords's prayer includes that God forgives us to the extent that we forgive our tormentors.

This is interesting.

It is well known that the devil can take over the mind and control everything we do. This too is the reason why Judas Iscariot, after the devil entered him at the last supper, felt at peace to betray Jesus, and when the devil left him after the crucifixion, not before, then only after that time, he realized what he did.

Yes, the devil can take control over everybody's mind, even the minds of little babies.

Therefore, when you think that you can't forgive, or it is too dangerous for you to forgive, then think that your offender may very well be just a host of the devil, himself just an empty shell, but filled with the devil, carrying out his every command in faith to the devil.

At the danger that you can't foretell when and if you too are or will be a host of the devil, it is a prudent life insurance to forgive your tormentors, so that you will get forgiven when you do the same at other times.

Discuss.

So who makes deformed babies? God or Satan?

God makes proper babies, then Satan deforms them before they are even born.

 

[Taz]

the Lords's prayer includes that God forgives us to the extent that we forgive our tormentors.

This is interesting.

It is well known that the devil can take over the mind and control everything we do. This too is the reason why Judas Iscariot, after the devil entered him at the last supper, felt at peace to betray Jesus, and when the devil left him after the crucifixion, not before, then only after that time, he realized what he did.

Yes, the devil can take control over everybody's mind, even the minds of little babies.

Therefore, when you think that you can't forgive, or it is too dangerous for you to forgive, then think that your offender may very well be just a host of the devil, himself just an empty shell, but filled with the devil, carrying out his every command in faith to the devil.

At the danger that you can't foretell when and if you too are or will be a host of the devil, it is a prudent life insurance to forgive your tormentors, so that you will get forgiven when you do the same at other times.

Discuss.

So who makes deformed babies? God or Satan?

God makes proper babies, then Satan deforms them before they are even born.

Why does god let that happen?

 

[anotherlife]

the Lords's prayer includes that God forgives us to the extent that we forgive our tormentors.

This is interesting.

It is well known that the devil can take over the mind and control everything we do. This too is the reason why Judas Iscariot, after the devil entered him at the last supper, felt at peace to betray Jesus, and when the devil left him after the crucifixion, not before, then only after that time, he realized what he did.

Yes, the devil can take control over everybody's mind, even the minds of little babies.

Therefore, when you think that you can't forgive, or it is too dangerous for you to forgive, then think that your offender may very well be just a host of the devil, himself just an empty shell, but filled with the devil, carrying out his every command in faith to the devil.

At the danger that you can't foretell when and if you too are or will be a host of the devil, it is a prudent life insurance to forgive your tormentors, so that you will get forgiven when you do the same at other times.

Discuss.

So who makes deformed babies? God or Satan?

God makes proper babies, then Satan deforms them before they are even born.

Why does god let that happen?

If the baby can die, that is God's mercy on cursed children. If the baby doesn't die, some other person in the baby's family is evil.

 

[Taz]

the Lords's prayer includes that God forgives us to the extent that we forgive our tormentors.

This is interesting.

It is well known that the devil can take over the mind and control everything we do. This too is the reason why Judas Iscariot, after the devil entered him at the last supper, felt at peace to betray Jesus, and when the devil left him after the crucifixion, not before, then only after that time, he realized what he did.

Yes, the devil can take control over everybody's mind, even the minds of little babies.

Therefore, when you think that you can't forgive, or it is too dangerous for you to forgive, then think that your offender may very well be just a host of the devil, himself just an empty shell, but filled with the devil, carrying out his every command in faith to the devil.

At the danger that you can't foretell when and if you too are or will be a host of the devil, it is a prudent life insurance to forgive your tormentors, so that you will get forgiven when you do the same at other times.

Discuss.

So who makes deformed babies? God or Satan?

God makes proper babies, then Satan deforms them before they are even born.

Why does god let that happen?

If the baby can die, that is God's mercy on cursed children. If the baby doesn't die, some other person in the baby's family is evil.

But why does god let babies be deformed?

 

[anotherlife]

the Lords's prayer includes that God forgives us to the extent that we forgive our tormentors.

This is interesting.

It is well known that the devil can take over the mind and control everything we do. This too is the reason why Judas Iscariot, after the devil entered him at the last supper, felt at peace to betray Jesus, and when the devil left him after the crucifixion, not before, then only after that time, he realized what he did.

Yes, the devil can take control over everybody's mind, even the minds of little babies.

Therefore, when you think that you can't forgive, or it is too dangerous for you to forgive, then think that your offender may very well be just a host of the devil, himself just an empty shell, but filled with the devil, carrying out his every command in faith to the devil.

At the danger that you can't foretell when and if you too are or will be a host of the devil, it is a prudent life insurance to forgive your tormentors, so that you will get forgiven when you do the same at other times.

Discuss.

So who makes deformed babies? God or Satan?

God makes proper babies, then Satan deforms them before they are even born.

Why does god let that happen?

If the baby can die, that is God's mercy on cursed children. If the baby doesn't die, some other person in the baby's family is evil.

But why does god let babies be deformed?

Because of the free will principle which is the foundational corner stone of this entire universe, Satan has a chance to put his work in every time after God puts His work in.

So it is not like God lets the malformed baby to be born. It is the free will that lets the malformed baby to be born even after Satan damaged it. I think that in God's eyes, it is the people who are responsible for letting the malformed baby to be born, or better still, allowing Satan to malform it in the first place. God has sent His very own Holy Spirit to enable people to fight that.

But what do people do? They reject the Holy Spirit even when their child cries for it, even if their child suffers to death. But even in this case, God's mercy on the child is imminent, because in the ages before technology, these malformed children were able to die soon after birth, in the grace of God.

See how far people have distorted everything that God ever makes?

 

[Taz]

So who makes deformed babies? God or Satan?

God makes proper babies, then Satan deforms them before they are even born.

Why does god let that happen?

If the baby can die, that is God's mercy on cursed children. If the baby doesn't die, some other person in the baby's family is evil.

But why does god let babies be deformed?

Because of the free will principle which is the foundational corner stone of this entire universe, Satan has a chance to put his work in every time after God puts His work in.

So it is not like God lets the malformed baby to be born. It is the free will that lets the malformed baby to be born even after Satan damaged it. I think that in God's eyes, it is the people who are responsible for letting the malformed baby to be born, or better still, allowing Satan to malform it in the first place. God has sent His very own Holy Spirit to enable people to fight that.

But what do people do? They reject the Holy Spirit even when their child cries for it, even if their child suffers to death. But even in this case, God's mercy on the child is imminent, because in the ages before technology, these malformed children were able to die soon after birth, in the grace of God.

See how far people have distorted everything that God ever makes?

You know what? You're completely bonkers to think that god would allow Satan to fuck up his work.

 

[anotherlife]

God makes proper babies, then Satan deforms them before they are even born.

Why does god let that happen?

If the baby can die, that is God's mercy on cursed children. If the baby doesn't die, some other person in the baby's family is evil.

But why does god let babies be deformed?

Because of the free will principle which is the foundational corner stone of this entire universe, Satan has a chance to put his work in every time after God puts His work in.

So it is not like God lets the malformed baby to be born. It is the free will that lets the malformed baby to be born even after Satan damaged it. I think that in God's eyes, it is the people who are responsible for letting the malformed baby to be born, or better still, allowing Satan to malform it in the first place. God has sent His very own Holy Spirit to enable people to fight that.

But what do people do? They reject the Holy Spirit even when their child cries for it, even if their child suffers to death. But even in this case, God's mercy on the child is imminent, because in the ages before technology, these malformed children were able to die soon after birth, in the grace of God.

See how far people have distorted everything that God ever makes?

You know what? You're completely bonkers to think that god would allow Satan to fuck up his work.

Unfortunately, Jesus Himself talks in the Gospels about Satan taking away from you God's presents that God gives you so that you can afford your life. If you don't have the Holy Spirit inside you, then you don't have the power to keep God's presents aka works inside you. Bummer? This is why human sinning is a problem. So God doesn't allow Satan to fuck up his work, you do. And you can undo that with repentance and prayer.

 

[Taz]

Why does god let that happen?

If the baby can die, that is God's mercy on cursed children. If the baby doesn't die, some other person in the baby's family is evil.

But why does god let babies be deformed?

Because of the free will principle which is the foundational corner stone of this entire universe, Satan has a chance to put his work in every time after God puts His work in.

So it is not like God lets the malformed baby to be born. It is the free will that lets the malformed baby to be born even after Satan damaged it. I think that in God's eyes, it is the people who are responsible for letting the malformed baby to be born, or better still, allowing Satan to malform it in the first place. God has sent His very own Holy Spirit to enable people to fight that.

But what do people do? They reject the Holy Spirit even when their child cries for it, even if their child suffers to death. But even in this case, God's mercy on the child is imminent, because in the ages before technology, these malformed children were able to die soon after birth, in the grace of God.

See how far people have distorted everything that God ever makes?

You know what? You're completely bonkers to think that god would allow Satan to fuck up his work.

Unfortunately, Jesus Himself talks in the Gospels about Satan taking away from you God's presents that God gives you so that you can afford your life. If you don't have the Holy Spirit inside you, then you don't have the power to keep God's presents aka works inside you. Bummer? This is why human sinning is a problem. So God doesn't allow Satan to fuck up his work, you do. And you can undo that with repentance and prayer.

So I can undo retarded and deformed babies with prayer?

 

[fncceo]

the Lords's prayer includes that God forgives us to the extent that we forgive our tormentors.

This is interesting.

It is well known that the devil can take over the mind and control everything we do. This too is the reason why Judas Iscariot, after the devil entered him at the last supper, felt at peace to betray Jesus, and when the devil left him after the crucifixion, not before, then only after that time, he realized what he did.

Yes, the devil can take control over everybody's mind, even the minds of little babies.

Therefore, when you think that you can't forgive, or it is too dangerous for you to forgive, then think that your offender may very well be just a host of the devil, himself just an empty shell, but filled with the devil, carrying out his every command in faith to the devil.

At the danger that you can't foretell when and if you too are or will be a host of the devil, it is a prudent life insurance to forgive your tormentors, so that you will get forgiven when you do the same at other times.

Discuss.

So who makes deformed babies? God or Satan?

Biology

 

[anotherlife]

If the baby can die, that is God's mercy on cursed children. If the baby doesn't die, some other person in the baby's family is evil.

But why does god let babies be deformed?

Because of the free will principle which is the foundational corner stone of this entire universe, Satan has a chance to put his work in every time after God puts His work in.

So it is not like God lets the malformed baby to be born. It is the free will that lets the malformed baby to be born even after Satan damaged it. I think that in God's eyes, it is the people who are responsible for letting the malformed baby to be born, or better still, allowing Satan to malform it in the first place. God has sent His very own Holy Spirit to enable people to fight that.

But what do people do? They reject the Holy Spirit even when their child cries for it, even if their child suffers to death. But even in this case, God's mercy on the child is imminent, because in the ages before technology, these malformed children were able to die soon after birth, in the grace of God.

See how far people have distorted everything that God ever makes?

You know what? You're completely bonkers to think that god would allow Satan to fuck up his work.

Unfortunately, Jesus Himself talks in the Gospels about Satan taking away from you God's presents that God gives you so that you can afford your life. If you don't have the Holy Spirit inside you, then you don't have the power to keep God's presents aka works inside you. Bummer? This is why human sinning is a problem. So God doesn't allow Satan to fuck up his work, you do. And you can undo that with repentance and prayer.

So I can undo retarded and deformed babies with prayer?

I can smell that you didn't think through your word 'undo'. So I will answer, that between your two choices which are technology or prayer, your leftist pride will force you to pick the wrong one. Hehehe.

 

[Taz]

But why does god let babies be deformed?

Because of the free will principle which is the foundational corner stone of this entire universe, Satan has a chance to put his work in every time after God puts His work in.

So it is not like God lets the malformed baby to be born. It is the free will that lets the malformed baby to be born even after Satan damaged it. I think that in God's eyes, it is the people who are responsible for letting the malformed baby to be born, or better still, allowing Satan to malform it in the first place. God has sent His very own Holy Spirit to enable people to fight that.

But what do people do? They reject the Holy Spirit even when their child cries for it, even if their child suffers to death. But even in this case, God's mercy on the child is imminent, because in the ages before technology, these malformed children were able to die soon after birth, in the grace of God.

See how far people have distorted everything that God ever makes?

You know what? You're completely bonkers to think that god would allow Satan to fuck up his work.

Unfortunately, Jesus Himself talks in the Gospels about Satan taking away from you God's presents that God gives you so that you can afford your life. If you don't have the Holy Spirit inside you, then you don't have the power to keep God's presents aka works inside you. Bummer? This is why human sinning is a problem. So God doesn't allow Satan to fuck up his work, you do. And you can undo that with repentance and prayer.

So I can undo retarded and deformed babies with prayer?

I can smell that you didn't think through your word 'undo'. So I will answer, that between your two choices which are technology or prayer, your leftist pride will force you to pick the wrong one. Hehehe.

So you don't know why god lets deformed or retarded babies happen. Got it.

 

[anotherlife]

Because of the free will principle which is the foundational corner stone of this entire universe, Satan has a chance to put his work in every time after God puts His work in.

So it is not like God lets the malformed baby to be born. It is the free will that lets the malformed baby to be born even after Satan damaged it. I think that in God's eyes, it is the people who are responsible for letting the malformed baby to be born, or better still, allowing Satan to malform it in the first place. God has sent His very own Holy Spirit to enable people to fight that.

But what do people do? They reject the Holy Spirit even when their child cries for it, even if their child suffers to death. But even in this case, God's mercy on the child is imminent, because in the ages before technology, these malformed children were able to die soon after birth, in the grace of God.

See how far people have distorted everything that God ever makes?

You know what? You're completely bonkers to think that god would allow Satan to fuck up his work.

Unfortunately, Jesus Himself talks in the Gospels about Satan taking away from you God's presents that God gives you so that you can afford your life. If you don't have the Holy Spirit inside you, then you don't have the power to keep God's presents aka works inside you. Bummer? This is why human sinning is a problem. So God doesn't allow Satan to fuck up his work, you do. And you can undo that with repentance and prayer.

So I can undo retarded and deformed babies with prayer?

I can smell that you didn't think through your word 'undo'. So I will answer, that between your two choices which are technology or prayer, your leftist pride will force you to pick the wrong one. Hehehe.

So you don't know why god lets deformed or retarded babies happen. Got it.

I have given you a part of the picture, you can figure the rest of the answer, but in case you get stuck, consider for example the blind man from birth that Jesus healed. When they asked Jesus whether it was his sin or his family's sin that he was born blind, Jesus told them that neither, but instead so that the work of God can be displayed in him. So there is the answer to your question of why, as well as the attached forgiveness and prayer to miracle stages.

 

[Meriweather]

So I can undo retarded and deformed babies with prayer?

Are you saying you are incapable of loving anything retarded or deformed?

 

[fncceo]

The fact that people can be healed of disease and disfunction disproves the concept that disease and disfunction are of divine origin.

The works of man can't thwart divine will.

 

[anotherlife]

The fact that people can be healed of disease and disfunction disproves the concept that disease and disfunction are of divine origin.

The works of man can't thwart divine will.

Indeed. It is of satanic origin. As the Gospel also says.