The Arab Prophet (peace be upon him and his family)

[Roudy]

Yup, they're as dumb and illiterate and terroristic as their prophet was.

 

[Roudy]

Islam did feature stoning, wars, lashes...How is it surprising when all reliigions feature Hell ? It's the same.

I learnt that Christianity would burn at stake. Muhammad forbade that any one be burned alive, saying only God could burn someone. In wars he forbade to strike at the face, for the respect Muslims have for the face. He ordered to fight for God, not for oneself, so that when Ali was about to kill an opponent, he refrained when the opponent spat in his face. He just let him go, saying, if I kill you now, it will be out of anger.

Did you learn that Mohammad himself chopped people's heads and hands off, and encouraged his followers to do the same.

Did you learn that Mohammad robbed Caravans and raped, killed, and looted its travelers, including during Ramadan?

Did you learn that Mohammad led the massacre and ethnic cleansing of the ancient Jews of Medina, when they refused to submit to Islam and him as their prophet? He then stole what they had and used it to finance his other massacres and invasions.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Islam did feature stoning, wars, lashes...How is it surprising when all reliigions feature Hell ? It's the same.

Muhammad borrowed heavily from Christianity. That's what one has to do when making up a religion, plagiarize from the works of others. Just as Joseph Smith.

 

[Dajjal]

Islam did feature stoning, wars, lashes...How is it surprising when all reliigions feature Hell ? It's the same.

Muhammad borrowed heavily from Christianity. That's what one has to do when making up a religion, plagiarize from the works of others. Just as Joseph Smith.

I agree, but he also stole from Jewish myths, and Arab myths, and from Greek writings, and even from a book of fables about Jesus boyhood.

 

[hazlnut]

Why, of course, it's all the Joooooooooos fault.

Yawn.

Mohammed is a fake prophet, part of a fake-assed religion, based on a faked-assed book that is written at roughly the level of a 2nd grader and has more inconsistencies than any other "holy" book out there. The Kuran is like swiss cheese: chock full of holes.

But I want to thank you for confirming the universal hatred of Jews among Muslims, based on that shitty book.

There is only one G-d in this universe, and he and he alone knows who his real prophets were, on this planet and other planets. And I guarantee you, good old pedophile Mo-hammed's name will not be on that list. 1.3 billion people tricked and/or enslaved into a religion that is more of a fascist ideology than anything else. I really feel sorry for those poor people. But only up to the point where they pick up weapons and start killing innocent people. At that point I just want to see those terrorists dead, dead, dead.

One day, Islam will land on the junk heap of history, exactly where it belongs.

And what makes Jesus less "fake-assed"?

A bunch of guys get together and write letters to various tribes and cities, convincing them to join a growing movement inspired by the brutal crucifixions by Rome. 300 years later, those letters are included in a collection of writings called the Bible. Which means library. The collection includes the already established Hebrew bible because the new faith grew out of the old one.

Christian virgin birth narratives (Matthew and Luke) were derived from pagan sources.

Followers of Mithraism believed that Mithra was born of the union of Mother Earth and Ahuramazda, and his story obviously influenced both Christianity and Chinese mythology, where he became known as "The Friend".

Dozens of Greek and Roman myths are about Demi-Gods/Heros born without a human father - Hercules, Perseus.

And of course we have Kal-El (Superman) a demigod defended from Heaven to save mankind from itself.

The stories of a Human "Sons of Gods" are as old as the stories of Gods themselves.

The notion that your story (mythology) is more valid than another is arrogant and prideful -- sinful. To believe that one religion, especially a relatively young one (compared to Hinduism and Buddhism), is the one and only right religion goes to the heart of man's tribal mentality -- us vs them.

If you truly want to become closer to God, you must become tolerant of all faiths and open to a broader concept of God that is ultimately beyond our ability to even come close to fully understanding.

 

[hazlnut]

Islam did feature stoning, wars, lashes...How is it surprising when all reliigions feature Hell ? It's the same.

Muhammad borrowed heavily from Christianity. That's what one has to do when making up a religion, plagiarize from the works of others. Just as Joseph Smith.

And Matthew and Luke did when they lifted the Virgin birth thing from pagan and Persian myths.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Islam did feature stoning, wars, lashes...How is it surprising when all reliigions feature Hell ? It's the same.

Muhammad borrowed heavily from Christianity. That's what one has to do when making up a religion, plagiarize from the works of others. Just as Joseph Smith.

And Matthew and Luke did when they lifted the Virgin birth thing from pagan and Persian myths.

Really? Can you provide proof that these men were educated in pagan literature?

Or do you just make connections that are utterly bereft of merit, proof, or credibility.

(Hint: it's the second choice)

 

[saveliberty]

Why does there need to be peace upon Mohammad? He in Pregatory or something? Maybe questioning his current location?

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Why does there need to be peace upon Mohammad? He in Pregatory or something? Maybe questioning his current location?

He's currently in hell. There's absolutely no doubt about that.

 

[Dajjal]

Why does there need to be peace upon Mohammad? He in Pregatory or something? Maybe questioning his current location?

He's currently in hell. There's absolutely no doubt about that.

The quran states quite clearly that God is one, and it is a blasphemy to say Jesus is the son of God, at sura 5.72 and it is a blasphemy to say God is part of a trinity. at sura 5.73.
Sura 5.72 They do blaspheme who say: "Allah is Christ the son of Mary"
Sura 5.73 They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity: for there is no God except One God.
But the bible says you may be forgiven for blasphemy against Jesus, but to deny the Holy Ghost will not be forgiven. Therefore if the bible is right then Muhammad was an unforgivable blasphemer.
Only one book can be right, and there is no room for adjustment here. So it is quite clear that the quran does not confirm all the previous messages, as it claims to do at sura 10.37
Sura 10.37 This quran is not such as can be produced by other than Allah; on the contrary it is a confirmation of revelations that went before it, and a fuller explanation.

It is clear where Muhammad got the idea of claiming he received the quran from the angel Gabriel in the bible, as the angel is sent to Zacharias to tell him of the coming of John the baptist at Luke 1.11 to 1.20 The angel Gabriel also visited Mary to tell her about Jesus at Luke 1.27
But the bible states that it was the Holy Ghost that spoke through Jesus, and later the through the disciples, so the angel Gabriel was not required to tell the word of God, as God himself in the form of the holy Ghost speaks with the mouth of his true messengers.
Therefore what doubt can there be that Muhammad invented a lie about God, and said he was told what was written on a tablet in heaven, and he remembered the message and passed it on to his followers. There can be no clearer indictment of Muhammad as a false prophet than the denial of the trinity, and the power of the holy spirit to speak through a true messenger.
Muhammad could not speak without thinking about his words, as he might contradict himself or make errors. Which of course, he did do anyway. But he gave himself time to go away and think up his next statement by claiming he had to get the message from Gabriel.

The following are the bible texts that state denying the Holy Ghost is an unforgivable sin, but denying Jesus is not.
Matthew:12:31: Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
Matthew:12:32: And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
Matthew29: But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:
Luke:12 And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.

These are some more verses that explain the concept that the Holy Ghost is God within us. which is the message Muhammad denies, and for which there is no forgiveness.
1Co:6 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
1Co:12 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.
1Jo:5:7: For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

The only conclusion anyone can really draw from this complete contradiction between the message of the New Testament, that the Holy Ghost enters true prophets, and God speaks through them, and the message of the quran that Muhammad claims he received as dictation from the angel Gabriel.
Is that Muhammad has committed the unforgivable blasphemy by denying The holy ghost and that Jesus was a part of God, and as a consequence denying the concept that God is within us all. So by the terms of the New Testament, Muhammad has and consigned himself to hell.

 

[hazlnut]

Islam did feature stoning, wars, lashes...How is it surprising when all reliigions feature Hell ? It's the same.

Muhammad borrowed heavily from Christianity. That's what one has to do when making up a religion, plagiarize from the works of others. Just as Joseph Smith.

And Matthew and Luke did when they lifted the Virgin birth thing from pagan and Persian myths.

Really? Can you provide proof that these men were educated in pagan literature?

Or do you just make connections that are utterly bereft of merit, proof, or credibility.

(Hint: it's the second choice)

No, Dopey, because mythologies were part of the oral tradition. There was no pagan literature, idiot. See they didn't have movie theaters or books stores back then, so the story of a demigod born of a mortal mother would have been well-known because those stories MYTHOLOGIES were well-told. A form of entertainment around the camp fire at night. Just like we all know the story of Luke Skywalker and Darth Vader without being "educated in star wars literature".

Face it, Matthew and Luke just wanted to prop their boy up a bit, so they embellished a little. They borrowed from another culture.


How did you know the story of Hanzel and Gretal without being a scholar. Your mommy and daddy told you at bed time.

 

[Bonita Louise]

RE OP..if Muslims truly believe in their prophet..the blood shed and hatred done in his name is a disservice to his beneficial teachings. IMO..politics have corrupted the goodness within the radicals of the spiritually minded and brought human shortcomings of grasping, greed and control to a very destructive place, for themselves and others in this world. The hateful sword injurers the bearer.
Trust the process..this too shall pass.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Islam did feature stoning, wars, lashes...How is it surprising when all reliigions feature Hell ? It's the same.

Muhammad borrowed heavily from Christianity. That's what one has to do when making up a religion, plagiarize from the works of others. Just as Joseph Smith.

And Matthew and Luke did when they lifted the Virgin birth thing from pagan and Persian myths.

Really? Can you provide proof that these men were educated in pagan literature?

Or do you just make connections that are utterly bereft of merit, proof, or credibility.

(Hint: it's the second choice)

No, Dopey, because mythologies were part of the oral tradition. There was no pagan literature, idiot. See they didn't have movie theaters or books stores back then, so the story of a demigod born of a mortal mother would have been well-known because those stories MYTHOLOGIES were well-told. A form of entertainment around the camp fire at night. Just like we all know the story of Luke Skywalker and Darth Vader without being "educated in star wars literature".

Face it, Matthew and Luke just wanted to prop their boy up a bit, so they embellished a little. They borrowed from another culture.


How did you know the story of Hanzel and Gretal without being a scholar. Your mommy and daddy told you at bed time.

So in other words, you don't have proof, you just make shit up and pass it on as incontrovertible truth.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Why does there need to be peace upon Mohammad? He in Pregatory or something? Maybe questioning his current location?

He's currently in hell. There's absolutely no doubt about that.

The quran states quite clearly that God is one, and it is a blasphemy to say Jesus is the son of God, at sura 5.72 and it is a blasphemy to say God is part of a trinity. at sura 5.73.
Sura 5.72 They do blaspheme who say: "Allah is Christ the son of Mary"
Sura 5.73 They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity: for there is no God except One God.
But the bible says you may be forgiven for blasphemy against Jesus, but to deny the Holy Ghost will not be forgiven. Therefore if the bible is right then Muhammad was an unforgivable blasphemer.
Only one book can be right, and there is no room for adjustment here. So it is quite clear that the quran does not confirm all the previous messages, as it claims to do at sura 10.37
Sura 10.37 This quran is not such as can be produced by other than Allah; on the contrary it is a confirmation of revelations that went before it, and a fuller explanation.

It is clear where Muhammad got the idea of claiming he received the quran from the angel Gabriel in the bible, as the angel is sent to Zacharias to tell him of the coming of John the baptist at Luke 1.11 to 1.20 The angel Gabriel also visited Mary to tell her about Jesus at Luke 1.27
But the bible states that it was the Holy Ghost that spoke through Jesus, and later the through the disciples, so the angel Gabriel was not required to tell the word of God, as God himself in the form of the holy Ghost speaks with the mouth of his true messengers.
Therefore what doubt can there be that Muhammad invented a lie about God, and said he was told what was written on a tablet in heaven, and he remembered the message and passed it on to his followers. There can be no clearer indictment of Muhammad as a false prophet than the denial of the trinity, and the power of the holy spirit to speak through a true messenger.
Muhammad could not speak without thinking about his words, as he might contradict himself or make errors. Which of course, he did do anyway. But he gave himself time to go away and think up his next statement by claiming he had to get the message from Gabriel.

The following are the bible texts that state denying the Holy Ghost is an unforgivable sin, but denying Jesus is not.
Matthew:12:31: Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
Matthew:12:32: And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
Matthew29: But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:
Luke:12 And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.

These are some more verses that explain the concept that the Holy Ghost is God within us. which is the message Muhammad denies, and for which there is no forgiveness.
1Co:6 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
1Co:12 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.
1Jo:5:7: For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

The only conclusion anyone can really draw from this complete contradiction between the message of the New Testament, that the Holy Ghost enters true prophets, and God speaks through them, and the message of the quran that Muhammad claims he received as dictation from the angel Gabriel.
Is that Muhammad has committed the unforgivable blasphemy by denying The holy ghost and that Jesus was a part of God, and as a consequence denying the concept that God is within us all. So by the terms of the New Testament, Muhammad has and consigned himself to hell.

I heard a story of U.S. Marines stationed at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba using the pages of the koran, of which there were many copies available, as toilet paper when TP was in short supply. Of course this was just a rumor and was never verified. I think the pages of your koran aren't even worthy of the tender, sullied linings of my anal orifice. I'd rather use poison oak.

 

[Steven_R]

Even if the Jews of the 7th century attacked Mohammed, so what? Everyone involved in that affair has been dead for 1400 years. What's the point in carrying on a hatred of people you've never even met because of something that happened to an ancestor 50-some odd generations ago?

As far as Palestine in concerned, that's between the Israelis and the Palis. Let them work it out. If you don't live there, you don't have a dog in that fight, even if you share a religion with some of the people involved. it isn't like that particular piece of real estate has never been fought over before.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Even if the Jews of the 7th century attacked Mohammed, so what? Everyone involved in that affair has been dead for 1400 years. What's the point in carrying on a hatred of people you've never even met because of something that happened to an ancestor 50-some odd generations ago?

As far as Palestine in concerned, that's between the Israelis and the Palis. Let them work it out. If you don't live there, you don't have a dog in that fight, even if you share a religion with some of the people involved. it isn't like that particular piece of real estate has never been fought over before.

Amazing after Muhammad's massacre of the Qurayza Jews, killing the men and boys who've entered puberty and enslaving the women and girls, they still claim they were the victims. Islam has from it's very beginning been the aggressors, the conquerors, the enslavers, the oppressors. It's an evil religion from the 7th century to today.

 

[Roudy]

Islam did feature stoning, wars, lashes...How is it surprising when all reliigions feature Hell ? It's the same.

Muhammad borrowed heavily from Christianity. That's what one has to do when making up a religion, plagiarize from the works of others. Just as Joseph Smith.

Mohammad basically hijacked two religions and then mixed it with his local moon god pagan faith (to make it more palatable to his tribe) turning it into the catastrophe and cancer upon humanity called Islam.

 

[September]

Islam did feature stoning, wars, lashes...How is it surprising when all reliigions feature Hell ? It's the same.

Muhammad borrowed heavily from Christianity. That's what one has to do when making up a religion, plagiarize from the works of others. Just as Joseph Smith.

Mohammad basically hijacked two religions and then mixed it with his local moon god pagan faith (to make it more palatable to his tribe) turning it into the catastrophe and cancer upon humanity called Islam.

Even of that were true, which it is not, I would define that as "epic Badassery", considering how many followers Islam has now.


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[Roudy]

Islam did feature stoning, wars, lashes...How is it surprising when all reliigions feature Hell ? It's the same.

Muhammad borrowed heavily from Christianity. That's what one has to do when making up a religion, plagiarize from the works of others. Just as Joseph Smith.

Mohammad basically hijacked two religions and then mixed it with his local moon god pagan faith (to make it more palatable to his tribe) turning it into the catastrophe and cancer upon humanity called Islam.

Even of that were true, which it is not, I would define that as "epic Badassery", considering how many followers Islam has now.


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Ah, but it's true. And thank you for confirming that Mohammad was just a terrorist barbarian thug.

Islam is a faith that gained followers by invasions and savagery and forced conversions.

Look at the Muslim world today, other than numbers, what is it's contribution to modern humanity other than terror, violence, oppression, persecution, and intolerance? These are the fruits of Islam.

Only a shallow minded person would boast of quantity over quality as a measure of the greatness of a faith. Your Islam is showing.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

One has to wonder how successful Catholics or Jews or Mormons or Baptists would be in making sure their children remain in the same religion if they lived in a society where most people believe that apostasy is grounds for death. Islam's phenomenal retention rate has to do with the fact that people are TERRIFIED of being anything else. There's nothing laudable about that.