The abortion issue troubles me mightily

basquebromance

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Those who support the legality of abortion do not seek to force anything on anyone.

Those who are against the legality actively seek to control others, and the full heat of their wrath falls on the poor and working class.
 
Definitions are powerful.

Prolife people tend to define the unborn fetus as the most innocent, a human being that has the right to life just like the rest of us.

Pro-choice people tend to define the unborn fetus as a clump of cells in a woman's body that has no more rights than the woman's appendix.

If you want to understand both sides of the issue, look at the issue through the prism of both those definitions.
 
Definitions are powerful.

Prolife people tend to define the unborn fetus as the most innocent, a human being that has the right to life just like the rest of us.

Pro-choice people tend to define the unborn fetus as a clump of cells in a woman's body that has no more rights than the woman's appendix.

If you want to understand both sides of the issue, look at the issue through the prism of both those definitions.
I'd venture to say pro-life people have a mystical/spiritual connection to that fertilized egg. They see what it can become. Pro-choice folk take a more secular view and see that egg as it is.
 
It is the free will of the mother until it's a viable fetus that can thrive outside the wound. Anti-abortion rights people want the State take a 23 week preterm fetus from the mother, punish or kill the mother & let the child die in multi million dollar ICU or suffer life long birth-defects surviving on government dole. They are the one who wishes strip freedoms, impose their will to torture, maim & murder.

A fetus is not even viable outside wound until after 28 weeks. Constitutional protected US citizen life begins at birth! A child born in Iran is not a US citizen because both of it's foreign parents had sex while on vacation in the USA!

Are anti-abortionist going to pay the $2 million per Black Baby born or removed from the mother pre-term, just to watch them die?
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Those who support the legality of abortion do not seek to force anything on anyone.

Those who are against the legality actively seek to control others, and the full heat of their wrath falls on the poor and working class.

You OP should read, "Anti-abortionists trouble me mightily"

Sounds like you are in love with abortion.
 
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there is little difference in regulating how many babies a family may have and the measures to accomplish that goal whether by means of abortion or not.



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Those who support the legality of abortion do not seek to force anything on anyone.
Except the genetically distinct new human being in it's mother's womb.

Those who are against the legality actively seek to control others, and the full heat of their wrath falls on the poor and working class.
You are correct that abortions disproportionately affect minorities at a ~ 3 to 1 ratio.
 
They see what it can become
No, we see WHAT IT IS.
So what is it What is it about a fertilized egg that makes it human? Pretty much every amphibian, reptile, bird, and mammal starts life as a fertilized egg. What is it that makes a collection of chromosomes, no brain, no nerves, no lungs, no heart, etc., a human being with rights superior to an adult human being?
 
Those who support the legality of abortion do not seek to force anything on anyone.

Those who are against the legality actively seek to control others, and the full heat of their wrath falls on the poor and working class.
And if you don’t want to have a baby I can’t imagine forcing the woman to go thru with it. Not in the first tri
 
They see what it can become
No, we see WHAT IT IS.
So what is it What is it about a fertilized egg that makes it human? Pretty much every amphibian, reptile, bird, and mammal starts life as a fertilized egg. What is it that makes a collection of chromosomes, no brain, no nerves, no lungs, no heart, etc., a human being with rights superior to an adult human being?
It's called DNA.
A non-answer since almost every living thing has DNA. Why is our DNA different?
 
They see what it can become
No, we see WHAT IT IS.
So what is it What is it about a fertilized egg that makes it human? Pretty much every amphibian, reptile, bird, and mammal starts life as a fertilized egg. What is it that makes a collection of chromosomes, no brain, no nerves, no lungs, no heart, etc., a human being with rights superior to an adult human being?
What is it that makes any human being,.....a human being?
 
It is the free will of the mother until it's a viable fetus that can thrive outside the wound. Anti-abortion rights people want the State take a 23 week preterm fetus from the mother, punish or kill the mother & let the child die in multi million dollar ICU or suffer life long birth-defects surviving on government dole. They are the one who wishes strip freedoms, impose their will to torture, maim & murder.

A fetus is not even viable outside wound until after 28 weeks. Constitutional protected US citizen life begins at birth! A child born in Iran is not a US citizen because both of it's foreign parents had sex while on vacation in the USA!

Are anti-abortionist going to pay the $2 million per Black Baby born or removed from the mother pre-term, just to watch them die?
1024px-Premature_baby_with_improvised_oxygen_mask.jpg

100% bull shit and one of the dumbest posts I’ll probably read today.
 

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