The 50 most developed countries in the world and Universal Healthcare.

[imawhosure]

Below are the 50 most developed countries in the world ranked according to the UN Human Development index which measures development and standard of living through estimates of GDP per capita, life expectancy, and education. There are a total of 197 countries in the world today. 193 of those countries are part of the United Nations. 45 out of the 50 most developed countries in the world below provide UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE for its citizens, essentially medicare for all. The following are the five countries from the list below that do not:

01. Cyprus
02. United Arab Emirates
03. Qatar
04. Bahrain
05. United States

Cyprus is currently In the process of moving to a Universal Healthcare system which will be completed in a few years. That will leave the United States alone with three Arab countries as being the only countries, of the 50 most developed in the world, that do not have Universal HealthCare.

Why does the United States, the wealthiest country in the world and the 3rd wealthiest per captia country, still not provide Universal Healthcare for its citizens? How could anyone say that Universal HealthCare is impossible or too expensive for the United States when nearly all of the 50 most developed countries in the world provide it for its citizens?


50 MOST DEVELOPED COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD RANKED:

01 - Norway
02 - Switzerland
03 - Australia
04 - Ireland
05 - Germany
06 - Iceland
07 - San Marino
08 - Sweden
09 - Singapore
10 - Netherlands
11 - Denmark
12 Canada
13 - United States
14 - United Kingdom
15 - Monaco
16 - Vatican City
17 - Finland
18 - New Zealand
19 - Belgium
20 - Liechtenstein
21 - Japan
22 - Austria
23 - Luxembourg
24 - Israel
25 - Taiwan
26 - South Korea
27 - France
28 - Slovenia
29 - Spain
30 - Czech Republic
31 - Italy
32 - Malta
33 - Estonia
34 - Greece
35 - Cyprus
36 - Poland
37 - United Arab Emirates
38 - Andorra
39 - Lithuania
40 - Qatar
41 - Slovakia
42 - Brunei
43 - Saudi Arabia
44 - Latvia
45 - Portugal
46 - Bahrain
47 - Chile
48 - Hungary
49 - Croatia
50 - Argentina

Let me answer, let me answer!

Because the country doesn't provide it, the citizens do.

Tell us all--------------> Lets pick SWITZERLAND------------>what is the LOWEST tax rate paid in that country by the poorest people?

Have you told the poorest Americans yet what their tax rate would have to be for them to provide free healthcare for everyone-)

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

OK, fair enough, but I have a question----------->

What was the tax rate paid by the forbearers of the heirs, as they accumulated that money? Same as the doctor!

So now, we are down to, and back to---------->who did what with the money they made. And YOU are trying to foster resentment, by insisting that because the forefathers of the heirs were smart, they must be evil.

Just listen to YOUR logic! You and I make exactly the same amount of money. You invest while denying yourself things in the here and now to do it. After 40 years, you retire to a golfing community, I can't. That makes you bad, or evil? EXPLAIN please!

 

[Redfish]

I have no problem with that, and I feel free to make fun of ignorant liberals and their lack of knowledge about economics, race relations, immigration, taxes, slavery, and just about everything else. their new liberal/socialist spokeswoman AOC is a constant source of jokes with her idiotic comments.

I'm a Libertarian, not a Dem. Please try again.

most libertarians do not condone murder of innocents. Rand Paul and his father Ron both are anti abortion. but as I said earlier, you are free to believe whatever you want------------------until the liberal thought police take full control. Orwell and Rand saw it coming and wrote books about it.

Books of fiction, like the bible.

your opinion, and you have the right to express it. Yes, Rand and Orwell wrote fiction, but their fiction has proven true. As to the
Bible, again your opinion, most americans disagree.

what I find interesting, is that all of you non believers are always to angry and intolerant of any beliefs that differ from yours, Could that be because deep down inside you aren't that sure what you believe? and are trying to convince yourself?

But you never responded to my idea about a national referendum on abortion, why not let all americans vote on it? or even state by state? Why do you want to dictate your OPINIONS on others? I thought libertarians were about freedom for all.

I find the atheists to be a lot more tolerant than the so-called fundamentalist Christians. They want to decide who the sinners are and aren't, and they want to be able to discriminate, and they want the laws of the land to back them up in their ability to treat others badly. That's intolerance with balls!

Christians don't treat others badly, they have compassion for everyone, offer their beliefs to everyone. The only intolerant religion is Islam, they kill non muslims, gays, jews, Christians, and especially atheists. they treat women like livestock or property.

you are a very ignorant person.

 

[Redfish]

Discrimination is a basic human right. It's what normal people call "freedom of choice."

So it’s ok not to serve blacks in a restaurant? Gawd, you’re stoopid.

It's not OK, but the government has no authority to tell private businesses what to do.

Again, you claim that you're a libertarian, but you just proved you aren't.

So discrimination ISN'T a human right. Thanks for walking that back.

Yes it is. Lying is also part of the human right known as freedom of speech. That doesn't make lying good. That fact that some behavior isn't admirable doesn't mean government is justified in making it against the law. Should government make adultery against the law?

You think just like a liberal.

Lying isn't just a violation of man's laws. It's one of the 10 Commandments. Under Biblical law, violation of any of othe 10 Commandments was punishable by death. It's noteable that you opporse abortion and homosexuality, neither of which God mentioned in the Big 10 of sins, but you think it's OK for politicians to lie to the public in an election campaign, even though though that's illegal under both secular law and Biblical law.

But of course Trump lies, and lies , and lies, so of course you're good with it.

abortion is murder, one of the ten commandments. Trump has not lied, political rhetoric is not lying. Now, if you want some lies

we landed under sniper fire
if you like your plan you can keep it
I never had sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky
I was born in Hawaii
I never sent or received classified data on my private server
she didn't intend to violate federal classified data laws
the new green deal will save money
the earth will end in 12 years
Florida will be under water by 2005

 

[Dragonlady]

Books of fiction, like the bible.

your opinion, and you have the right to express it. Yes, Rand and Orwell wrote fiction, but their fiction has proven true. As to the
Bible, again your opinion, most americans disagree.

what I find interesting, is that all of you non believers are always to angry and intolerant of any beliefs that differ from yours, Could that be because deep down inside you aren't that sure what you believe? and are trying to convince yourself?

But you never responded to my idea about a national referendum on abortion, why not let all americans vote on it? or even state by state? Why do you want to dictate your OPINIONS on others? I thought libertarians were about freedom for all.

I find the atheists to be a lot more tolerant than the so-called fundamentalist Christians. They want to decide who the sinners are and aren't, and they want to be able to discriminate, and they want the laws of the land to back them up in their ability to treat others badly. That's intolerance with balls!

Discrimination is a basic human right. It's what normal people call "freedom of choice."

So it’s ok not to serve blacks in a restaurant? Gawd, you’re stoopid.

It's not OK, but the government has no authority to tell private businesses what to do.

Again, you claim that you're a libertarian, but you just proved you aren't.

Wrong. The government's obligation is to protect the rights of all citizens under the constitution. If a business owner is violating the rights or the safety of other citizens, it is the obligation of the government to stop the abuses, either by closing down the business, or enforcing compliance that is in the best interests of the community.

The government has an obligation to protect the rights of ALL citizens equally, both the owners and the customers, and to ensure that the rights of general public are not impugned by those people who have more money and more power. Otherwise, the rich and the powerful will pick the winners and losers in employment and opportunity, to an even greater extent than they do now.

 

[Redfish]

Which of the aforementioned countries lead the world in medical technology, research, medicine, and patient care?

Switzerland for research.

Which countries have the best healthcare systems? | APRIL International

The 16 countries with the world's best healthcare systems

how many people in Switzerland? Its more like a big extended family than a mixture or races and cultures like the USA. not comparable.

 

[Redfish]

your opinion, and you have the right to express it. Yes, Rand and Orwell wrote fiction, but their fiction has proven true. As to the
Bible, again your opinion, most americans disagree.

what I find interesting, is that all of you non believers are always to angry and intolerant of any beliefs that differ from yours, Could that be because deep down inside you aren't that sure what you believe? and are trying to convince yourself?

But you never responded to my idea about a national referendum on abortion, why not let all americans vote on it? or even state by state? Why do you want to dictate your OPINIONS on others? I thought libertarians were about freedom for all.

I find the atheists to be a lot more tolerant than the so-called fundamentalist Christians. They want to decide who the sinners are and aren't, and they want to be able to discriminate, and they want the laws of the land to back them up in their ability to treat others badly. That's intolerance with balls!

Discrimination is a basic human right. It's what normal people call "freedom of choice."

So it’s ok not to serve blacks in a restaurant? Gawd, you’re stoopid.

It's not OK, but the government has no authority to tell private businesses what to do.

Again, you claim that you're a libertarian, but you just proved you aren't.

Wrong. The government's obligation is to protect the rights of all citizens under the constitution. If a business owner is violating the rights or the safety of other citizens, it is the obligation of the government to stop the abuses, either by closing down the business, or enforcing compliance that is in the best interests of the community.

The government has an obligation to protect the rights of ALL citizens equally, both the owners and the customers, and to ensure that the rights of general public are not impugned by those people who have more money and more power. Otherwise, the rich and the powerful will pick the winners and losers in employment and opportunity, to an even greater extent than they do now.

do I have the right to go into a black nightclub in the lower ninth ward at 2am and expect to be served with dignity and respect? If your answer is yes, then I suggest you try it some night.

 

[danielpalos]

Below are the 50 most developed countries in the world ranked according to the UN Human Development index which measures development and standard of living through estimates of GDP per capita, life expectancy, and education. There are a total of 197 countries in the world today. 193 of those countries are part of the United Nations. 45 out of the 50 most developed countries in the world below provide UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE for its citizens, essentially medicare for all. The following are the five countries from the list below that do not:

01. Cyprus
02. United Arab Emirates
03. Qatar
04. Bahrain
05. United States

Cyprus is currently In the process of moving to a Universal Healthcare system which will be completed in a few years. That will leave the United States alone with three Arab countries as being the only countries, of the 50 most developed in the world, that do not have Universal HealthCare.

Why does the United States, the wealthiest country in the world and the 3rd wealthiest per captia country, still not provide Universal Healthcare for its citizens? How could anyone say that Universal HealthCare is impossible or too expensive for the United States when nearly all of the 50 most developed countries in the world provide it for its citizens?


50 MOST DEVELOPED COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD RANKED:

01 - Norway
02 - Switzerland
03 - Australia
04 - Ireland
05 - Germany
06 - Iceland
07 - San Marino
08 - Sweden
09 - Singapore
10 - Netherlands
11 - Denmark
12 Canada
13 - United States
14 - United Kingdom
15 - Monaco
16 - Vatican City
17 - Finland
18 - New Zealand
19 - Belgium
20 - Liechtenstein
21 - Japan
22 - Austria
23 - Luxembourg
24 - Israel
25 - Taiwan
26 - South Korea
27 - France
28 - Slovenia
29 - Spain
30 - Czech Republic
31 - Italy
32 - Malta
33 - Estonia
34 - Greece
35 - Cyprus
36 - Poland
37 - United Arab Emirates
38 - Andorra
39 - Lithuania
40 - Qatar
41 - Slovakia
42 - Brunei
43 - Saudi Arabia
44 - Latvia
45 - Portugal
46 - Bahrain
47 - Chile
48 - Hungary
49 - Croatia
50 - Argentina

Let me answer, let me answer!

Because the country doesn't provide it, the citizens do.

Tell us all--------------> Lets pick SWITZERLAND------------>what is the LOWEST tax rate paid in that country by the poorest people?

Have you told the poorest Americans yet what their tax rate would have to be for them to provide free healthcare for everyone-)

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

OK, fair enough, but I have a question----------->

What was the tax rate paid by the forbearers of the heirs, as they accumulated that money? Same as the doctor!

So now, we are down to, and back to---------->who did what with the money they made. And YOU are trying to foster resentment, by insisting that because the forefathers of the heirs were smart, they must be evil.

Just listen to YOUR logic! You and I make exactly the same amount of money. You invest while denying yourself things in the here and now to do it. After 40 years, you retire to a golfing community, I can't. That makes you bad, or evil? EXPLAIN please!

is it a work ethic from Age of Iron or not?

Capital risk management is more useful.

 

[danielpalos]

I'm a Libertarian, not a Dem. Please try again.

most libertarians do not condone murder of innocents. Rand Paul and his father Ron both are anti abortion. but as I said earlier, you are free to believe whatever you want------------------until the liberal thought police take full control. Orwell and Rand saw it coming and wrote books about it.

Books of fiction, like the bible.

your opinion, and you have the right to express it. Yes, Rand and Orwell wrote fiction, but their fiction has proven true. As to the
Bible, again your opinion, most americans disagree.

what I find interesting, is that all of you non believers are always to angry and intolerant of any beliefs that differ from yours, Could that be because deep down inside you aren't that sure what you believe? and are trying to convince yourself?

But you never responded to my idea about a national referendum on abortion, why not let all americans vote on it? or even state by state? Why do you want to dictate your OPINIONS on others? I thought libertarians were about freedom for all.

I find the atheists to be a lot more tolerant than the so-called fundamentalist Christians. They want to decide who the sinners are and aren't, and they want to be able to discriminate, and they want the laws of the land to back them up in their ability to treat others badly. That's intolerance with balls!

Christians don't treat others badly, they have compassion for everyone, offer their beliefs to everyone. The only intolerant religion is Islam, they kill non muslims, gays, jews, Christians, and especially atheists. they treat women like livestock or property.

you are a very ignorant person.

right wing women are welcome to a full body massage with happy ending and g-spot focus work; vote blue not red!

 

[Dragonlady]

Which of the aforementioned countries lead the world in medical technology, research, medicine, and patient care?

Switzerland for research.

Which countries have the best healthcare systems? | APRIL International

The 16 countries with the world's best healthcare systems

how many people in Switzerland? Its more like a big extended family than a mixture or races and cultures like the USA. not comparable.

Canada is very comparable - We have a mixed culture with immigrants from all around the world. Rural Canada is sparsely populated and VERY white, the cities are racially mixed - Toronto is 55% non-white. We have a large indiginous population, too. There are a couple of Reservations in our county, and the neighbouring county, and the non-white population of our county is almost entirely made up of natives.

Our citizens report an 80% satisfaction rate with our health care system. We have longer life expectancy and ours is rising, not declining, as is that of the USA.

The USA has the highest rate of infant mortality and maternal mortality due to childbirth, in the first world. Your life expectancy has declined in each of the past two years because of the opioid crisis, and there's an epidemic of obesity in your country. You spend nearly twice as much per capita on health care as the rest of the first world, and have the worst outcomes per $$ expended.

For profit medicine has convinced the American public that because people come from all over the world to jump queues in their own countries, or to get experimental treatments not available at home, that this means your health system is the best in the world. It doesn't and it isn't, but it is the only health care system in the world where you can just buy access. You can't go to Canada, France or Great Britain for treatment. Our health care is not for sale to people who don't pay taxes in Canada. Ditto any first world country. You have to be a citizen of and a taxpayer in Canada to use our system. If you are allowed in on a student visa, or some other visa, you will be given health care with that visa. But you must be in the country legally to get a health card. And you must have a health card to access our system.

My American friends who went to school in Canada, have very fond memories of our health care system.

 

[Redfish]

Which of the aforementioned countries lead the world in medical technology, research, medicine, and patient care?

Switzerland for research.

Which countries have the best healthcare systems? | APRIL International

The 16 countries with the world's best healthcare systems

how many people in Switzerland? Its more like a big extended family than a mixture or races and cultures like the USA. not comparable.

Canada is very comparable - We have a mixed culture with immigrants from all around the world. Rural Canada is sparsely populated and VERY white, the cities are racially mixed - Toronto is 55% non-white. We have a large indiginous population, too. There are a couple of Reservations in our county, and the neighbouring county, and the non-white population of our county is almost entirely made up of natives.

Our citizens report an 80% satisfaction rate with our health care system. We have longer life expectancy and ours is rising, not declining, as is that of the USA.

The USA has the highest rate of infant mortality and maternal mortality due to childbirth, in the first world. Your life expectancy has declined in each of the past two years because of the opioid crisis, and there's an epidemic of obesity in your country. You spend nearly twice as much per capita on health care as the rest of the first world, and have the worst outcomes per $$ expended.

For profit medicine has convinced the American public that because people come from all over the world to jump queues in their own countries, or to get experimental treatments not available at home, that this means your health system is the best in the world. It doesn't and it isn't, but it is the only health care system in the world where you can just buy access. You can't go to Canada, France or Great Britain for treatment. Our health care is not for sale to people who don't pay taxes in Canada. Ditto any first world country. You have to be a citizen of and a taxpayer in Canada to use our system. If you are allowed in on a student visa, or some other visa, you will be given health care with that visa. But you must be in the country legally to get a health card. And you must have a health card to access our system.

My American friends who went to school in Canada, have very fond memories of our health care system.

great, glad you like it. We don't want it. and your stats are wrong. But your mind is made up and I don't really care what you think or believe about the USA, the best and most free and fair nation in the history of the world. Also, your population is about 1/4 of ours so its not comparable.

 

[Redfish]

Discrimination is a basic human right. It's what normal people call "freedom of choice."

So it’s ok not to serve blacks in a restaurant? Gawd, you’re stoopid.

It's not OK, but the government has no authority to tell private businesses what to do.

Again, you claim that you're a libertarian, but you just proved you aren't.

So discrimination ISN'T a human right. Thanks for walking that back.

Yes it is. Lying is also part of the human right known as freedom of speech. That doesn't make lying good. That fact that some behavior isn't admirable doesn't mean government is justified in making it against the law. Should government make adultery against the law?

You think just like a liberal.

If you have a right to discriminate, then not allowing blacks into your restaurant would be a basic right. It's not.

You think just like a whiny hater.

If a restaurant owners only wants to serve left handed gay Asians, that should be his right.

 

[bripat9643]

Discrimination is a basic human right. It's what normal people call "freedom of choice."

So it’s ok not to serve blacks in a restaurant? Gawd, you’re stoopid.

It's not OK, but the government has no authority to tell private businesses what to do.

Again, you claim that you're a libertarian, but you just proved you aren't.

So discrimination ISN'T a human right. Thanks for walking that back.

Yes it is. Lying is also part of the human right known as freedom of speech. That doesn't make lying good. That fact that some behavior isn't admirable doesn't mean government is justified in making it against the law. Should government make adultery against the law?

You think just like a liberal.

If you have a right to discriminate, then not allowing blacks into your restaurant would be a basic right. It's not.

You think just like a whiny hater.

Sure it is, just as refusing to bake a cake for a homosexual wedding is a basic right.

However, the historical evidence shows that few businesses would choose to discriminate unless forced to by the government.

"Hater" is a word leftwingers use when they want to force someone to comply with their agenda.

 

[bripat9643]

Discrimination is a basic human right. It's what normal people call "freedom of choice."

So it’s ok not to serve blacks in a restaurant? Gawd, you’re stoopid.

It's not OK, but the government has no authority to tell private businesses what to do.

Again, you claim that you're a libertarian, but you just proved you aren't.

So discrimination ISN'T a human right. Thanks for walking that back.

Yes it is. Lying is also part of the human right known as freedom of speech. That doesn't make lying good. That fact that some behavior isn't admirable doesn't mean government is justified in making it against the law. Should government make adultery against the law?

You think just like a liberal.

Lying isn't just a violation of man's laws.

Neither is refusing to serve him.

It's one of the 10 Commandments.

Bearing false witness is one of the 10 Commandments. That's a special case of lying.

Under Biblical law, violation of any of othe 10 Commandments was punishable by death. It's noteable that you opporse abortion and homosexuality, neither of which God mentioned in the Big 10 of sins, but you think it's OK for politicians to lie to the public in an election campaign, even though though that's illegal under both secular law and Biblical law.

But of course Trump lies, and lies , and lies, so of course you're good with it.

I don't oppose abortion. At least I don't think it should be illegal. I don't approve of it, however. I also don't oppose homosexuality. I just think you shouldn't be forced to serve them if you have a problem with it.

I also don't think it's OK for politicians to lie. However, it's protected by the First Amendment. Making lying illegal would turn this country into a police state.

Lying isn't illegal under secular law. As I just pointed out, it's protected by the First Amendment.

As usual, you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground. Everything you believe about secular law is wrong, and so is everything you believe about Biblical law.

 

[bripat9643]

your opinion, and you have the right to express it. Yes, Rand and Orwell wrote fiction, but their fiction has proven true. As to the
Bible, again your opinion, most americans disagree.

what I find interesting, is that all of you non believers are always to angry and intolerant of any beliefs that differ from yours, Could that be because deep down inside you aren't that sure what you believe? and are trying to convince yourself?

But you never responded to my idea about a national referendum on abortion, why not let all americans vote on it? or even state by state? Why do you want to dictate your OPINIONS on others? I thought libertarians were about freedom for all.

I find the atheists to be a lot more tolerant than the so-called fundamentalist Christians. They want to decide who the sinners are and aren't, and they want to be able to discriminate, and they want the laws of the land to back them up in their ability to treat others badly. That's intolerance with balls!

Discrimination is a basic human right. It's what normal people call "freedom of choice."

So it’s ok not to serve blacks in a restaurant? Gawd, you’re stoopid.

It's not OK, but the government has no authority to tell private businesses what to do.

Again, you claim that you're a libertarian, but you just proved you aren't.

Wrong. The government's obligation is to protect the rights of all citizens under the constitution. If a business owner is violating the rights or the safety of other citizens, it is the obligation of the government to stop the abuses, either by closing down the business, or enforcing compliance that is in the best interests of the community.

The government has an obligation to protect the rights of ALL citizens equally, both the owners and the customers, and to ensure that the rights of general public are not impugned by those people who have more money and more power. Otherwise, the rich and the powerful will pick the winners and losers in employment and opportunity, to an even greater extent than they do now.

You have no right to be served. That's the bottom line. The business owner purchased everything his business uses. He also owns his own labor and he pays his employees for their labor. The claim that he's obligated to use his labor and his property to serve the purposes of other people doesn't hold water. It's absurd. That's called slavery.

 

[Dragonlady]

So it’s ok not to serve blacks in a restaurant? Gawd, you’re stoopid.

It's not OK, but the government has no authority to tell private businesses what to do.

Again, you claim that you're a libertarian, but you just proved you aren't.

So discrimination ISN'T a human right. Thanks for walking that back.

Yes it is. Lying is also part of the human right known as freedom of speech. That doesn't make lying good. That fact that some behavior isn't admirable doesn't mean government is justified in making it against the law. Should government make adultery against the law?

You think just like a liberal.

If you have a right to discriminate, then not allowing blacks into your restaurant would be a basic right. It's not.

You think just like a whiny hater.

If a restaurant owners only wants to serve left handed gay Asians, that should be his right.

False. If he only wants to serve a certain clientele, he can open a private club, and solicit members from among his preferred clientele.

If he wants a license to serve the public, he has to abide by the non-discrimation laws that govern that license, and serve the public.

 

[Redfish]

It's not OK, but the government has no authority to tell private businesses what to do.

Again, you claim that you're a libertarian, but you just proved you aren't.

So discrimination ISN'T a human right. Thanks for walking that back.

Yes it is. Lying is also part of the human right known as freedom of speech. That doesn't make lying good. That fact that some behavior isn't admirable doesn't mean government is justified in making it against the law. Should government make adultery against the law?

You think just like a liberal.

If you have a right to discriminate, then not allowing blacks into your restaurant would be a basic right. It's not.

You think just like a whiny hater.

If a restaurant owners only wants to serve left handed gay Asians, that should be his right.

False. If he only wants to serve a certain clientele, he can open a private club, and solicit members from among his preferred clientele.

If he wants a license to serve the public, he has to abide by the non-discrimation laws that govern that license, and serve the public.

did you notice the word "should" in my post? you don't look so stupid if you read before responding.

 

[Cecilie1200]

So if you don't pay at the doctor then it is free?

Then in that case I get free treatment here in the US because I never have to pay a co payment or deductible with my insurance policy.

By the way there ain't so such thing as a free lunch. All Libertarians know that. The Canadians have about 20% higher taxes than we do.

We pay taxes and health insurance, and it depends where you live for how much tax you pay, just like here. But in Canada, everyone is covered, and they don’t care for people for profit.

I would much rather have somebody trying to make a profit on good service provide my health care rather than some stupid incompetent bureaucrat, whose boss is a corrupt politician, elected by special interest group.

A few years ago I had cancer that needed treatment. In my area I had three different facilities competing for my business. I got excellent treatment. Much better than if the filthy ass non caring government was running the facilities.

The government in Canada doesn’t run hospitals, they simply pay the tab.

He who has the gold makes the rules.

If the government is paying the tab, the government is running things.

The hospitals in Canada are actually run pretty well. People there look at the American system with a bit of horror and are super glad that that's not there system.

Until they need treatment faster than six months from now. Then, they're suddenly a lot less horrified, and heading across the border.

I'll be sure to let you know when the opinions of Canadians mean something to me. Please hold your breath waiting.

 

[Cecilie1200]

I don't know what you mean by "pretty good", I lived in a border state for several years and our medical facilities were always treating Canadians. They came to the US and paid for their treatment rather than get it free in Canada.

A few years ago I read an article that said the typical American mid sized city has more MRI machines than the whole country of Canada.

If you like you high taxes and "free" medical care then by all means stay in Candida.

Another difference in Canada and the US is that you don't have the high number of welfare assholes and Illegals as we do. Your ratio of contributors to recipients is higher than ours. Our Democrat voting inner city ghetto welfare queens can bankrupt any welfare system.

All countries that have a public system also allow citizens to have private care as well. But at least everyone is covered, and the people don't spit on the poor for needing healthcare, like you do.

No one in the USA is denied medical care, everyone is "covered". It has always been that way, those of us who pay cover those who can't or won't. It would be the same under socialized medicine, except that those who pay would also have to pay for a massive inefficient government bureaucracy.

The government in Canada sets standards but it's the hospitals themselves who administer their own hospitals.

"the government in Canada sets standards" that's why Canadians who can afford it come to the USA when seriously ill. If you live in Canada and like it, that's great, that system wont work here and we don't want it here. We have the best medical care in the entire world and do not want to change it. End of Story.

Canadians are free to seek out health care wherever they want. Their prescription drugs are also much cheaper.

Really sick of hearing that smug, superior line in connection with countries that only have "cheaper drugs" because the US is actually propping them up.

Pharmaceutical companies would be a whole lot less cooperative about the artificially low drug prices countries like Canada demand if they weren't able to recoup the losses by charging Americans more. And they wouldn't even consider spending the money on R&D to develop new drugs if it wasn't for the US.

So really, Canada and nations like it are the reason why medications cost so much in the US.

 

[Claudette]

All countries that have a public system also allow citizens to have private care as well. But at least everyone is covered, and the people don't spit on the poor for needing healthcare, like you do.

No one in the USA is denied medical care, everyone is "covered". It has always been that way, those of us who pay cover those who can't or won't. It would be the same under socialized medicine, except that those who pay would also have to pay for a massive inefficient government bureaucracy.

The government in Canada sets standards but it's the hospitals themselves who administer their own hospitals.

"the government in Canada sets standards" that's why Canadians who can afford it come to the USA when seriously ill. If you live in Canada and like it, that's great, that system wont work here and we don't want it here. We have the best medical care in the entire world and do not want to change it. End of Story.

Canadians are free to seek out health care wherever they want. Their prescription drugs are also much cheaper.

Really sick of hearing that smug, superior line in connection with countries that only have "cheaper drugs" because the US is actually propping them up.

Pharmaceutical companies would be a whole lot less cooperative about the artificially low drug prices countries like Canada demand if they weren't able to recoup the losses by charging Americans more. And they wouldn't even consider spending the money on R&D to develop new drugs if it wasn't for the US.

So really, Canada and nations like it are the reason why medications cost so much in the US.

Yup. Other countries can charge less because they don't have the expense to discover more drugs. Or to R&D on anything.

The US does it all and we Americans pay the price.

 

[Cecilie1200]

how do you know that the murdered woman was not on the way to the PP abortion mill when she was killed? TWO counts or murder means TWO people were killed.

I consider abortion murder, you don't. I don't see this argument going anywhere. I suggest a national referendum on this to settle it once and for all. Lets let all of America decide, OK?

So in America, you don't want women to be free to decide for themselves what to do. You should think of moving to a Muslim country.

the decision should be made before they have unprotected sex. I have lived and worked in muslims countries, I have no interest in ever going to one again for any reason.

So you think that people should live how you tell them to.

NO, I think that every human being has the right to life and freedom. That includes human beings in the womb. I am ok with the morning after pill, condoms, BC pills, diaphrams, contraceptive foam, and every other form of birth control, but once that heart starts beating, its a human being and killing it is murder.

If its ok to kill an unborn up to the moment of birth, why not extend that to 2 years of age if the kid becomes a problem or inconvenience? What magically changes at the instant of birth that its ok to kill one moment and not the next?

A fetus vs a live being. So much for you having a science degree.

"A fetus isn't alive! That's SCIENCE . . . because I'm sure it is!"